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FlatSpinMan
08-17-2005, 02:23 AM
I have noticed a lot of posts from newer users recently so I thought it might be helpful to create a thread for them to get some suggestions about good user-made campaigns to download. Of course the classics like Battle over Britain, When Tigers Could Fly,Cactus Diaries are recommended but if you could also mention some of the less well-known ones (and provide a link) it would be great as the big ones are very clearly listed at airwarfare under the "Featured Campaigns" heading http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns_index.htm

Personally, I'd like to recommend: "Jagdflieger"
Player flies 109s and 190s in Battle of Britain, France and North African settings
Still hoping Jagdflieger part3 comes out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

and

Johnny Red
http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns.htm#010
An interesting set of fictional missions flying a hurricane in Russia. It involves a good variety of missions on a beautiful map (Finland).

Please, if you have any other recommendations, especially for ones that are not featured at Airwarfare please contribute them. Campaign makers - Don't be afraid to blow your own trumpets!

mole_boy
08-17-2005, 04:13 AM
Very good question. Although the The Blue campaign was made for Il-2fb aep it is still very enjoyable.

DmdSeeker
08-17-2005, 12:27 PM
"Against all odds"; because a) it's very well written; b)it covers an unusual subject well.

"Polish campaign". First time I've ever been depressed flying. It didn't matter how good you were; you were in a P.11 against 109's and HeIII's. For the first time; it was the plane; not the pilot. An illuminating exercise.

Anything by Polymando; Extreme_one or Birdbrain.

FlatSpinMan
08-17-2005, 06:59 PM
These are good. Any other ones?

-HH-Dubbo
08-17-2005, 07:05 PM
"Straight Shot" & "Straight & True" by Zeus-cat are brilliant.

Straight Shot is short and to the point, greatly paced and something a bit different ie flying Rufes from a Japanese Battleship.

Straight & True is an IL2-T torpedo mission, for the thinking man. Intricately laid out, brilliantly planned and well briefed. Most enjoyable.

Both are available at airwarfare.com

Zeus-cat
08-17-2005, 07:10 PM
The Polish Campaign didn't work for me. Maybe I had an old version (I downloaded it quite a while ago), but it was really screwed up. I had to edit every mission for something and by the fourth or fifth mission it crashed. I gave up at that point.

Against Overwhelming Odds by Dunkelgrun was good. (Il-2 mission page)

Cactus Diary by bird_brain was good.

Castaways by Dubbo2 was good and very different. (airwarfare.com)

My Straight Shot campgain for the seaplane version of the Zero is really different. (airwarfare.com)

My Straight and True campaign for the IL-2T torpedo bomber is good, but tough. Be warned that you MUST control your AI wingmates to do well.

Zeus-cat

FlatSpinMan
08-17-2005, 07:37 PM
Thanks for the tips. I'm keen to try "Straight Shot" now.The torpedo one sounds like a good change of scene, too.

Zeus-cat
08-17-2005, 07:46 PM
With the new FM Straight Shot is a bit tricky. You may want to open up the missions in the FMB and increase the size of the landing "recon" target at the ship. Its tougher to taxi on the water with the new flight model and some people have crashed into the ship when trying to move toward the crane for pickup.

Zeus-cat

Achilles_NZ
08-17-2005, 09:10 PM
Two big thumbs up for "Straight Shot" & "Castaways" from me too. Had a blast with these two. Both are relativly short and easy to get into.

Also enjoyed vpmedias "Beaufighters in the Desert" and "RHAF - Defending the Homeland" (both available at airwarfare.com as well)

Im currently in the middle of Bird Brains "El Alamein" for more desert action flying one of three campaigns included in the zip. (Luftwaffe JG26) as well as his "Cactus Diary"... from what ive seen so far, both are very well put together and very enjoyable.

Just a few of my faves anyway http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

FlatSpinMan
08-18-2005, 10:59 AM
Thanks. Any more rarities out there?

DmdSeeker
08-18-2005, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by FlatSpinMan:
Thanks. Any more rarities out there?

Yes; there's a good 109/ Swiss scenario too.

But it's written by a Frenchman; so it has illogicalities.

(thanks for the campaign; if you're reading this!)

bird_brain
08-18-2005, 03:27 PM
Thanks for all the nice comments about my stuff... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Most of it is at Airwarfare.com or on the missions page here, but I also have direct links to the files in my sig.

You probably wonder what I fly when I'm not making them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

WTCF by Chuck_Older has to be my all time favorite.

2 Little DUCs by Extreme_one and his USAAF campaign are both excellent.

Gaston/DjTed has some very nice ones @ Checksix.com and on the missions page here. The Italian campaign is nicely done. I remember one titled "Fork Tailed Devils" a while back that was fun, but I haven't flown it since the Lightning has been adjusted.

Hotspace's "Cat's Eyes" is awesome if you can handle a nightfighter, but it helps to turn out the lights and fly it @ midnight when the house is quiet. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Icefire has done a short Marianas campaign which should be available soon that you will all enjoy. Keep an eye out for that as well.

"Against Overwhelming Odds" by Dunkelgrun is truly unique. An ME163 rocket plane campaign. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I haven't flown it, but it is on my short list to do.

DHumphrey has done a couple of Pacific campaigns just lately and although not exactly "historical" the VMF 214 campaign is fun for some Corsair action.

There are others I have left out, but those are some that come to mind.

hotspace
08-18-2005, 05:41 PM
Yep, as Bird_Brain has just said "Cat's Eye's is a good 'un (if hard), but I would say that as I made the thing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

He-He

Hot Space

3.JG51_BigBear
08-18-2005, 05:48 PM
I know its already been mentioned a couple times now but I have to say it again because I though it was so great...When Tigers Could Fly by ChuckOlder. Its an absolutely awesome camapaign. Most can't hold my interest for long but I was hooked from beginning to end.

dieg777
08-19-2005, 11:20 AM
Ardennen is good for those who like flying luftwaffe.


http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns.htm#002

BTW birdbrain where has your malta gladiator missions gone to ?

bird_brain
08-19-2005, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by dieg777:
BTW birdbrain where has your malta gladiator missions gone to ?
It's right here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9381017643)!

Chuck_Older
08-19-2005, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by 3.JG51_BigBear:
I know its already been mentioned a couple times now but I have to say it again because I though it was so great...When Tigers Could Fly by ChuckOlder. Its an absolutely awesome camapaign. Most can't hold my interest for long but I was hooked from beginning to end.

It wouldn't have been half as good without good playtesters. You and the rest of the playtest team forced it to be better http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

bird_brain
08-19-2005, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
It wouldn't have been half as good without good playtesters. You and the rest of the playtest team forced it to be better
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
Just so y'all know, Chuck_Older is currently testing things too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

FlatSpinMan
08-20-2005, 07:45 AM
(Shameless bump to keep the thread alive in a sea of inane spam threads)

FlatSpinMan
08-21-2005, 10:43 AM
Ditto. I have found at least three threads with people looking for more interesting campaigns than the stock ones. Surely this thread constitutes that.

Zeus-cat
08-21-2005, 07:43 PM
My turn to shameless bump.

It would be nice if their was directory of user-made campaigns people could look at.

Campaign Name
Author
Aircraft (Bf-109, P-47, etc.)
Primary Mission Type (Intercept, Escort, Ground Attack, Dive Bomb, etc.)
Number of missions
Theater (Europe, Pacific, Russia)
Other?

I avoided listing a rating (such as 1 to 5 stars) as this would be difficult to determine.

Zeus-cat

Xiolablu3
08-22-2005, 01:52 AM
Thnaks guys, I'm gonna try out Bird Brains 'El Alamain' for my first user made campaign.

This thread alerted me to it!

Will report back on how it goes.

Moustacheo
08-22-2005, 03:47 AM
While not strictly a user made campaign, I suggest downloading DCG from http://www.lowengrin.com. It's a dynamic campaign generator that's much more powereful than the standard DGen and it also lets you customise certain things such as maximum action radius or squadron sizes. For me though it's downloadable just for the fact that you can have RAF western front dynamic campaigns, so long as you are either merged or have downloaded 'Battle over Britain'.

Another great plus for me is that you can apply custom skins to whole squardons, so that you can for example play a battle of britain campaign with all the hurris and spits in battle of britain era skins.

JG52Wuppen
08-22-2005, 06:13 AM
The Experten campaigns I & II are the best campaigns I've played. 100 missions each, but you don't have to fly too far to get action. Both are eastern front. In addition, I too recommend DCG, I especially liked Tailspin's addon campaigns for DCG.

http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_expertencampaign.htm

-HH-Dubbo
08-24-2005, 03:04 PM
Bumpage http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

fabianfred
08-25-2005, 05:31 PM
that one about the Kiwis flying P 40's at Gudalcanal "Turning the Tide' was good fun

han freak solo
08-25-2005, 08:50 PM
I just started two campaigns that I've had on the hard disk for a while.

Zues-Cat, I've got 4 missions behind me on the "Straight and True". Interesting. 1st mission - Intelligence says just land at your new field, no enemies should be present. Dude, that's a lot of "no enemies" over my airfield! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I've damaged planes and ships, but still got a goose egg on the score department. I like it so far! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The other one I started is "The Blue". Some @sshole put a wing in my way! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif
I gotta learn how to predict where the enemy is with this Finnish (?) gauged Gladiator.
It looks like another quality campaign. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Zeus-cat
08-25-2005, 10:02 PM
han freak solo,

OK, I got a bit carried away on the first mission in "Straight and True". I usually pick out a Bf-110 and waste it. The Heinkels are almost impossible to kill with the IL-2T, but the 110's can be brought down with some patience and careful use of the MGs.

Did you watch the intro movie? It really sets the "mood" for the campaign.

Check out the recon photos too if you get a chance. Too bad they can't be put into the mission somehow.

I promise that there are no more surprises after mission 1 (heh heh heh - sucker).

Zeus-cat

Friendly_flyer
08-26-2005, 01:53 AM
I€m surprised no-one has mentioned Extreme Ones and Pyomandos excellent Battle of Britton campaign for Hurricane, Mk I. It€s an historic campaign, some 50 missions long and comes with a beautiful skin-pack and a much celebrated speech pack for the RAF. Using the Finnish map for Portsmouth, it works beautifully. Missions are mostly interceptions, but despite sticking strictly to history, the campaign is quite varied, and learning to fly the sluggish Hurricane in authentic British weather is rather challenging€¦

While on the Hurricane, I will also recommend Pyomandos €œmini-campaign€, Fleet Air Arm. This extremely varied short campaign centres on ship-launched hurricanes, and let you try your hand at everything from U-boats to stratospheric Condors. Best of all, there€s no need for fickle landings, you simply ditch your kite on completion! An extra bonus for the only briefing I have seen so far mentioning scotch!

han freak solo
08-26-2005, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
I€m surprised no-one has mentioned Extreme Ones and Pyomandos excellent Battle of Britton campaign for Hurricane, Mk I.

Where is the Battle of Britain campaign? I found the Hurricane mini-campaign at airwarfare.

My problem is I have over 190 user made campaigns and missions. I may never get to them all. It's a good problem to have, be sure!

Jaras
08-26-2005, 08:19 AM
I'm looking for any P-38 campaigns.
Dynamic campagins maybe?
But linear are cool to, as long they are well made.
I really enjoyed 12 mission P-38 campaign by IceFire you can find here: http://www.flying-legends.net

Can someone recommend me some other P-38 campaigns? I'd really like to play some bomber escort missions, and some campaign over Pacific.

bird_brain
08-26-2005, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
I€m surprised no-one has mentioned Extreme Ones and Pyomandos excellent Battle of Britton campaign for Hurricane, Mk I
FlatSpinMan mentioned that in the 1st line of this thread. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
He said "Other than the classics like.... BoB"


Originally posted by han freak solo:
Where is the Battle of Britain campaign? I found the Hurricane mini-campaign at airwarfare.


It is right here (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns_bob.htm)

han freak solo
08-26-2005, 02:31 PM
BB, I might actually have that one. I didn't notice the file name is different and called "RAF_full."

Thanks for the link at airwarfare. I guess I'm a bit blind sometimes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Zeus-cat
08-26-2005, 05:36 PM
Jaras,

Try Dubbo's Hell Hounds campaign parts I and II for a good P-38 campaign.

Zeus-cat

FlatSpinMan
08-28-2005, 06:19 AM
I had to reinstall everything last week so I lost all my skins, campaigns, utilities etc http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Anyway, tonight I was thinking, now which campaigns would be interesting to try? Then I remembered this (my own) thread with links and suggestions to so many great campaigns. Pure genius! My brilliance is matched only by my stupidity.By the way, BUMP!


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han freak solo
08-28-2005, 01:31 PM
Here's what happens when you attack a German manned Russian battleship in Zues-cat's Straight and True. I'm glad there are friendly picket boats nearby to pick me up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Straight...
http://www.lssdigital.com/straight&true01.jpg

True...
http://www.lssdigital.com/straight&true02.jpg

JG54_Arnie
08-28-2005, 02:19 PM
Nice thread! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

FlatSpinMan
08-29-2005, 11:02 AM
Anyone tried Blue Hawaii yet? I downloaded it but haven't tried it. I kind of like the fictional ones,too as there is so much breathing room. Still, I have to say my favourite is When Tigers could fly. I started it again today.


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FlatSpinMan
08-29-2005, 09:55 PM
I'm now 4 missions into "Against Overwhelming Odds" and am really enjoying it. It's pretty hard for me to land the Me-163 and also to work out how steeply to climb and what throttle setting to use (max mostly) so that you still have some fuel left at the top of the climb. Apart from that it is a really refreshing change of topic and the track-movies tell the story well. I like the little touches in the briefings and missions, like having to take off before a higher ranking pilot pulls up in his car to take over the plane. It is quite hard, just due to the odd nature of the 163 but very interesting.

han freak solo
08-29-2005, 10:11 PM
Here's some more love for the IL2 torpedo bomber.

http://www.lssdigital.com/S&Tdambustin.jpg

FlatSpinMan
08-29-2005, 10:55 PM
"I am not a number. I am a free man."
"Run Away! Run Away!"

Like it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


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Zeus-cat
08-30-2005, 04:15 PM
han freak solo,

Mission #9 in Straight and True; "Dam it all to Heck". My personal favorite from the campaign. Probably nothing like this ever happened in real life, but dam good fun in the game! I probably flew this mission 15 times when building the campaign.

And I did warn you in the briefing that there were barrage balloons.

Zeus-cat

han freak solo
08-30-2005, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Zeus-cat:
han freak solo,

Mission #9 in Straight and True; "Dam it all to Heck". My personal favorite from the campaign. Probably nothing like this ever happened in real life, but dam good fun in the game! I probably flew this mission 15 times when building the campaign.

And I did warn you in the briefing that there were barrage balloons.

Zeus-cat

Yes, Zues-cat, your intel was correct. I just didn't see the cables until I played the track back. Nearly nicked one of those mission killers! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

That series of pics is with the brightness turned up in photo editing. Quite a bit darker in the mission!

Pure luck I made it on the first attempt! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

FlatSpinMan
09-14-2005, 04:30 AM
Dragged this baby back from the depths of page 7.
I can definitely recommend Enforcer's VVS campaign (Part 1). Still doing it but in terms of making the virtual world alive, nasty surprises when you're landing, plus decent playability (ie AI aren't all Aces) I definitely recommend this campaign. The only thing detracting from it is that it uses default skins. I fly in a custom I-16 skin but still, it would be nice to have everybody looking a little smarter.

I can also recommend "Against Overwhelming Odds", mainly because it is such a different kind of campaign(you fly the Me-163). Just a note, if you dplay it, I suggest setting Map Icons to "On" as it is very hard to spot the targets otherwise and with only a couple of minutes of fuel available it is essential to be in the right spot.

Alright, who's next?

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Breeze147
09-14-2005, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Here's what happens when you attack a German manned Russian battleship in Zues-cat's Straight and True. I'm glad there are friendly picket boats nearby to pick me up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Straight...
http://www.lssdigital.com/straight&true01.jpg

True...
http://www.lssdigital.com/straight&true02.jpg

That's minor damage for a Sturmo!! You could get another 5 missions out of that bird!!

Kuna15
09-14-2005, 11:11 AM
What a nice Sturmo skin.... BTW http://free-vk.t-com.hr/domagoj/smileys/biggrinbump.gif

Chuck_Older
09-14-2005, 03:58 PM
Battle Over Britain, and Two Little DUCs are great fun and well done

Bird_brain's Gaudalcanal Diary and his Malta campaign especially were breaths of fresh air.

If we can get the Ki-27 and the Ki-21 I'll revise WTCF entirely and *then* you all can say it was good and I'll be satisfied with it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

han freak solo
09-15-2005, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by Kuna15:
What a nice Sturmo skin.... BTW http://free-vk.t-com.hr/domagoj/smileys/biggrinbump.gif

I'm not sure who deserves the credit on that one. I think it came with Operation Barbarossa? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

han freak solo
09-15-2005, 08:31 PM
I was wrong. That Sturmo skin came with "The Last Days".

han freak solo
09-24-2005, 03:33 PM
Here's some more Sturmo Torpedo action.....

Red 1 gives the order to attack the enemy cruiser. Red 1 and Red 2 drop their weapons. Red 3 and Red 4 disobey orders.
http://www.lssdigital.com/dam_bustin_two_01.jpg


Red 4 is hit and climbs. Red 4 tries the torpedo lob attack. Red 3 makes a suicide run.
http://www.lssdigital.com/dam_bustin_two_02.jpg


Red 3 pats himself on the back for getting his torpedo over the nets and into the cruiser.
http://www.lssdigital.com/dam_bustin_two_03.jpg


Red 3 is regretting his plan of action, immensely.
http://www.lssdigital.com/dam_bustin_two_04.jpg


A medal for Red 3 then, since he actually read the mission briefing about torpedo nets protecting the cruiser.

Red 2 was also hit and landed behind enemy lines.

Only Red 1 returned out of a force of 16. He's keeping Red 3's medal since no one can dispute Red 1's claim to hitting the cruiser.

Red 1 is a real bastid.
http://www.lssdigital.com/dam_bustin_two_05.jpg
From Straight and True, at bookstores everywhere.

timholt
09-24-2005, 07:21 PM
Having played and enjoyed bird_brains FHC (As I have all of his campaigns) I substituted the Gladiators for Hurricanes and the CR42s for CR50s and am 3/4 0f the way through it with a vastly improved kill rate.
Thank you BB and all the others who unselfishly share their fine work with the community.

FlatSpinMan
09-25-2005, 09:53 AM
Just tried a couple of missions of Castaways. It's really atmospheric and really different from anything I've seen yet. Only my initial impressions but WOW!!!

-HH-Dubbo
09-25-2005, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Here's some more Sturmo Torpedo action.....

Red 1 gives the order to attack the enemy cruiser. Red 1 and Red 2 drop their weapons. Red 3 and Red 4 disobey orders.

Red 4 is hit and climbs. Red 4 tries the torpedo lob attack. Red 3 makes a suicide run.
Red 3 pats himself on the back for getting his torpedo over the nets and into the cruiser.
Red 3 is regretting his plan of action, immensely.

A medal for Red 3 then, since he actually read the mission briefing about torpedo nets protecting the cruiser.

Red 2 was also hit and landed behind enemy lines.

Only Red 1 returned out of a force of 16. He's keeping Red 3's medal since no one can dispute Red 1's claim to hitting the cruiser.

Red 1 is a real bastid.

From Straight and True, at bookstores everywhere.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Nice review mate. ZC will approve if he ever gets back......

FlatSpinMan, glad you like it so far. Thanks for the feedback

Enforcer572005
09-25-2005, 09:44 PM
yeah, im still trying to find those blasted transports and keep having to run from those oscars.....that thing is great. I keep expecting to see Rod Serling show up and intro this as an episode of the twilight zone.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

TacticalYak3
09-26-2005, 06:28 AM
Been playing "When Tigers Could Fly." Wonderful briefings and fun missions. Attacking these large bomber convoys is amazing. One feels helpless as even knocking down 5 bombers does little against the 20-25+ flight. A little taste of what BOB might be like me thinks.

BTW how many missions are included in this campaign? Finished @20 so far.

TS!

Kuna15
09-26-2005, 06:40 AM
Just check out the missions/campaign/US/when tigers could fly folder for how many files are there. Count *only* .mis files you will get exact number. However I don't know if the campaign path is right you must find it manually. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TacticalYak3
09-26-2005, 07:43 AM
Yes, I will have to do that when I get home tonight.

FlatSpinMan
09-26-2005, 08:40 AM
I agree about the feelings of helplessness with the bomber waves. You can kind of see how the Russians resorted to ramming at times when they were trying to protect their homes.

XyZspineZyX
10-31-2005, 02:21 AM
Gents
I have discovered 3 dgen campaigns that are in one word "BRILLIANT"

The stock DGEN expantion for combined install 4.01. available at Netwings

Amagis "Disaster on the Frontiers" available ar airwarfare, again combined install 4.02

Jumbos BOE campaign possibly still available at Netwings, unsure. This is Western front action at its finest, (shot down 2 Tempests last night, still on the high)

I cant recommend these enough

FlatSpinMan
10-31-2005, 05:32 AM
Thanks for the tips, dasreich. I'm not sure though, do these work for the inbuilt campaign generator or do I need that other one by Lowengrin? I had that once but never really got to grips with it.
PS Thanks for resurrecting this thread, I was thinking of dragging it out of the backpages myself.

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Udidtoo
10-31-2005, 05:46 AM
FlatSpin this is indeed a noble cause so I'll help keep it topside and visable. I've heard those -HH- boys produce some passable material http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

If anybody is looking for some good P-38 action then Dubbo's HH campaigns pt I & II are hard to beat

Chuck_Older
10-31-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by TacticalYak3:
Been playing "When Tigers Could Fly." Wonderful briefings and fun missions. Attacking these large bomber convoys is amazing. One feels helpless as even knocking down 5 bombers does little against the 20-25+ flight. A little taste of what BOB might be like me thinks.

BTW how many missions are included in this campaign? Finished @20 so far.

TS!


Overwhelmed and outnumbered was a feeling I tried to produce. I'm glad you're enjoying the campaign

20 missions in, so you're still at Magwe. You have a ways to go

There are 34 missions, 31 are combat missions

Some folks overlooked this, but actually, all missions are available in your Single Mission menu as well, under USAAF, then When_Tigers_Could_Fly.

XyZspineZyX
10-31-2005, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by FlatSpinMan:
Thanks for the tips, dasreich. I'm not sure though, do these work for the inbuilt campaign generator or do I need that other one by Lowengrin? I had that once but never really got to grips with it.
PS Thanks for resurrecting this thread, I was thinking of dragging it out of the backpages myself.

The 3 campaigns are DGEN specific & will not work with Lowengrins DCG. To run Jumbos BOE campaign you must havt the Battle over Europe expantion pack.
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FlatSpinMan
10-31-2005, 08:31 PM
Great news! Thanks for that. DOn't have BOE but I'll try the rest. Appreciate it.

FlatSpinMan
10-31-2005, 08:57 PM
I just downloaded Amiagi's "Disaster on the Frontiers' but couldn't find any stock Dgen expansion at Netwings. Do you know the exact name?

EDIT:
Think I found it. Was it "New NW Europe map for 4.02", or similar, by Ian Boys? From the contents and the readme it seems to be the right thing.

zombiewolf92553
10-31-2005, 09:53 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by FlatSpinMan:
I just downloaded Amiagi's "Disaster on the Frontiers' but couldn't find any stock Dgen expansion at Netwings. Do you know the exact name?

EDIT:
Think I found it. Was it "New NW Europe map for 4.02", or similar, by Ian Boys? From the contents and the readme it seems to be the right thing.[/QUOTE

No the new NW map is different(very good by the way)
I Unzipped both(Dsaster on the Frontier) to the DGEN and it worked fine]

fly_zo
11-01-2005, 02:20 AM
Liberation Skies US Mustang/Jug campaign by Gambit 21

This is the best I have played ( it is demanding for your rig but still).Man put so much work in scenery that you can every mission watch like a movie ( using ground cameras). In missions is so much going on that you don't have " I'm all alone in the world" feeling present in most offline campaigns.
It is closest to the queen of campaigns( unfortunetly it won't work after pf merged http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif ) :

The AVG Campaign
( you should see that scenery... )

is the result of a collective work :

- A semi historical campaign by Obélix
- Advice and testing by Gaston
- Medals by Tony
- English translation by AAA_Pappy

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born to fly forced to work!!!

FlatSpinMan
11-01-2005, 02:27 AM
Hey fly_zo, by AVG are you talking about "When tigers Could Fly", or is there another one on the same theme that you recommend?

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fly_zo
11-01-2005, 02:39 AM
Hey fly_zo, by AVG are you talking about "When tigers Could Fly", or is there another one on the same theme that you recommend?


No, it is old one , I think you can still find it in checksix site(http://www.checksix-fr.com/). It is still playable with little editing in FMB.

WTCF by Chuck_Older is ok but i don't like starting with higest rank because there is no altitude and speed data in breifings so i get to soon or to late to the target, and there nothing going on neither on the ground or in the sky apart from your mission in whole campaign.(pardon for bad english)

FlatSpinMan
11-01-2005, 03:13 AM
Votre anglais est super, et j'aime bien votre signature(je ne sais pas le mot francais). When you said you need to edit the FMB, what exactly did you mean?

fly_zo
11-01-2005, 03:27 AM
When you said you need to edit the FMB, what exactly did you mean?

You should asign your first waypoint to "take of" in first two or four missions because there is impossible to start away from runway anymore http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif.. That's it!

I don't speek french but when you searching for great campaigns you understand chinese if you must! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Hvala za pohvalu iz engleskog ..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
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born to fly forced to work!!!

FlatSpinMan
11-01-2005, 03:28 AM
Thanks for that and okay, you got me beat with that last sentence http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

fly_zo
11-01-2005, 03:32 AM
Thanks for that and okay, you got me beat with that last sentence Smile


It is in Croatian....... means thanks for compliment for english http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
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born to fly forced to work!!!!

FlatSpinMan
11-01-2005, 03:34 AM
Ah-hah. I just assumed you were French cos you mentioned check-six,Gaston and Obelix. My mistake, m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

fly_zo
11-01-2005, 03:43 AM
h-hah. I just assumed you were French cos you mentioned check-six,Gaston and Obelix. My mistake, m8 Big Grin.

I don't speek french but when you searching for great campaigns you understand chinese if you must! Wink2

I played AVG even with french briefings although i didn't understand any of it. It is that good!

enjoy it!

FlatSpinMan
11-01-2005, 04:43 AM
Fly-zo, you are a true believer!!! Your reward waits for you in the next world!

fly_zo
11-01-2005, 05:54 AM
Fly-zo, you are a true believer!!! Your reward waits for you in the next world!

Hope so!
Maybe gods ( Obelix, Gaston...) will bless us with another campaign like AVG, soon. Anyhow it is in my evening prayers for so long http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

FlatSpinMan
11-01-2005, 05:59 AM
You have probably played this campaign of Gaston's in French but an English version is coming soon with some new missions and extra skins, bases, etc.
Here is a link to the thread about it.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/1471014363

fly_zo
11-01-2005, 06:07 AM
You have probably played this campaign of Gaston's in French but an English version is coming soon with some new missions and extra skins, bases, etc.
Here is a link to the thread about it.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/1471014363

that is what my prayers was !!!!
thx m8, time passes so slow since that thread came.

XyZspineZyX
11-01-2005, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by FlatSpinMan:
I just downloaded Amiagi's "Disaster on the Frontiers' but couldn't find any stock Dgen expansion at Netwings. Do you know the exact name?

EDIT:
Think I found it. Was it "New NW Europe map for 4.02", or similar, by Ian Boys? From the contents and the readme it seems to be the right thing.

I may have got it wrong, go over to sim hq & if you are a member ask the question about Eastern Front DGEN upgrade, it was done by "Greg". It is in the achived posts & it still had an active link so I downloaded it from there.
By the way Sim HQ has a very good forum for IL2, & I recomend it highly to all off line campaigners.

fly_zo
11-01-2005, 07:39 AM
Maybe gods ( Obelix, Gaston...) will bless us with another campaign like AVG, soon. Anyhow it is in my evening prayers for so long

And suddenly it hits me, been talkin to one of the gods all this time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif (i have blond hair .... equals my IQ)

FlatSpinMan
11-01-2005, 08:19 AM
@dasreich - thanks for the tip. I'll have a look .Think I'm a member but can't recall. Joined so many sites connected to this sim.

@Fly_zo - yeah, I definitely started the thread too early. I had imagined it was almost ready when I started it but in fact Gaston hadn't finished testing. My bad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif.

fly_zo
11-01-2005, 09:46 AM
yeah, I definitely started the thread too early. I had imagined it was almost ready when I started it but in fact Gaston hadn't finished testing.

No sweating m8, you always have Maddox adut to pull: two weeks!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Chuck_Older
11-01-2005, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by fly_zo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Hey fly_zo, by AVG are you talking about "When tigers Could Fly", or is there another one on the same theme that you recommend?


No, it is old one , I think you can still find it in checksix site(http://www.checksix-fr.com/). It is still playable with little editing in FMB.

WTCF by Chuck_Older is ok but i don't like starting with higest rank because there is no altitude and speed data in breifings so i get to soon or to late to the target, and there nothing going on neither on the ground or in the sky apart from your mission in whole campaign.(pardon for bad english) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nothing going on in the whole sky or on the ground? No altitudes given?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Are you 100% certain you downloaded my campaign?

fly_zo
11-01-2005, 10:29 AM
to chuck:
Name Mingaladon arrival
Short We are receiving our first combat posting: Mingladon airfield, north of Rangoon\n\n
Description December 12th, 1941\nKeydaw Aerodrome, Burma\n0930 hours\n\nWell, if anyone doubted why China needed an 'instant air force', you got your answer last Sunday. We also heard on the radio earlier that the Japanese attacked an RAF airfield in Eastern Burma yesterday morning, and today there are reports of Japanese troops moving across the Thai border into this country. So let's get down to business.\n\nToday we will occupy the newly completed field at Mingaladon. Your route is on your map. Third Squadron will be posted here, First and Second have both already moved on to China to patrol the Burma Road and the area of Yunnan Province.\n\nThird Squadron will defend Rangoon and it's surrounding area by acting in concert with the RAF, to destroy Japanese bombers intent on raiding the area. Japan wants to crush Chinese resistance by bombing ports and supply routes in Burma so our job is to make sure the ports and roads stay open so resistance can continue. The Burmese have been insulated from this war for the most part, but soon they will feel Japan exert her will on them. China's only lifeline now exists through Burma.\n\nYour job here will be a difficult one. Wear and tear on our aircraft is enormous. Although we may post over two dozen aircraft here, only 2/3rds are expected to be in service at any time. That means sixteen aircraft will have to shoulder the burden of helping the RAF. At most sixteen pilots will go out at any given time, and be outnumbered at least three to one on a typical day by our estimates. We may at some times get the whole squadron airborne, but I expect that to be today, and the day that we leave here. The whole might of the Japanese Imperial Army's Air Corps will be thrown against you and your RAF counterparts.\n\nThis is why we pay you so well.\n\nThings are quiet here now, but it will just be a matter of time before that changes. Rangoon is key and the Japanese must know this. Use the time before our struggle begins wisely. Remember: diving attacks. Do not turn with your adversary. High side attacks and diving runs against bombers. Never fly a straight course for more than ten seconds in a combat area. Low and slow means: run! Escape and gain altitude. Never let your eyes leave your target. Speed is life. Speed and altitude equals victory. Make him play our game. Never play his. Concentrate attacks on flight leaders whenever possible. When escorts are present, don't let them keep you from taking out bombers. Eliminate them quickly, or assign part of your flight to keep them under wraps.\n\n Don't forget why you are here, and bear in mind what happened at Pearl and in the Phillipines. The Japanese are not nearsighted fools, far from it. They are deadly enemies. They are smart, and they are experienced in air combat. With the U.S. officially at war with them, they will be more determined than ever.\n\nEnough pep talk, let's get out to our planes.\n\n**Player should select "3rd.bmp" as aircraft skin**\n\n\n\n\n\n

Name Rangoon Sweeps
Short Here's our first taste of combat against the Japanese. Make a good impression!\n\n
Description December 23rd, 1941\nMingaladon, AVG airbase, Burma\n0829 hours\n\nWell, 1st and 2nd Squadrons got there first crack at the Japanese just the other day, now it's our turn, boys. Remember what we've been teaching here. \n\nOur Warning Net has given us word of a Japanese raid headed towards our area. The target is likely Rangoon and it's airbase. As many as thirty medium bombers have been sighted. The enemy is at approximately 5,000 to 7,000 feet, approaching from the East. There may be two waves of attackers, or maybe two groups have been seperated, or perhaps one group is catching up to another. One group may even be fighters.\n\nTake off immediately, and head for Rangoon. A flight of RAF Hurricanes is already on station there. Your route is on the map, and you will intercept at an altitude of around 8,000 feet or higher, if possible. You'll be leading a four-ship formation. All our other planes except two are grounded pending repairs or on patrol elsewhere, and those two stay here to defend the base.\n\nLocal anti-aircraft defenses are not strong, while targets for the Japanese are many. There is an important railroad that leads to the north that needs to stay running. This is the most important area to defend right now, but also the port itself is vital to us and our Allies, and the warehouses along the port are full of material of war for the Chinese and British. \n\nRangoon must not burn. Good luck.\n\n**Player should select "3rd.bmp" as aircraft skin**\n\n

speed data?

sorry if i hurted your ego! It was only my opinion. I did say " it is ok campaign".

fly_zo
11-01-2005, 10:41 AM
Nothing going on in the whole sky or on the ground?

nothing going on neither on the ground or in the sky apart from your mission in whole campaign

bad quoting http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Chuck_Older
11-01-2005, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by fly_zo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Nothing going on in the whole sky or on the ground?

nothing going on neither on the ground or in the sky apart from your mission in whole campaign

bad quoting http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, not bad quoting. Bad observational skills on the part of fly_zo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif There's dozens of things you missed- even things that you should have seen, like the altitude to intercept the enemy in the briefings. So it makes me wonder- whose campaign did you play?


Did you see the lighthouse south of Rangoon? The trains headed for the city? The floatplane that shadowed the C-47s? The cargo flights headed to Magwe? The fishing boats miles from your objectives? The crashed IJA transport in the Salween gorge? The village outside of Mingaladon that isn't really on the map in the FMB? All the extra buildings in Hanoi? All the extra regions of Kunming that may-or may not- be included in a mission, depending on where you chase the enemy?

I thought not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif fly_zo, please take a closer look at the subject before you pass judgement on people's work, and remember that a lot of things you fly over in WTCF is supposed to be remote or covered by jungle- it doesn't call for a lot of ground activity, and as for planes, well I thought 50+ enemy planes might be exciting enough on those missions that don't have a few unrelated flights buzzing around http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I'm working on another campaign now, and I am sure nobody will see the U-boat surfaced off the belgian coast, with an Arado float plane tied to it, but that doesn't mean it won't exist. Please be more objective when describing other people's work to the community. You didn't see some stuff, hey, I'm sorry- but it's not really fair to say that these things don't exist, just because you personally never saw them

This goes for anyone's campaign- don't tell other people what's missing unless you know 100% for sure what you're talking about- some folks could take that unkindly

Enforcer572005
11-01-2005, 05:31 PM
I saw alot in the WTCF when i flew it, but then again i look for this stuff in traks i make of them. when i reverse engineered it in the FMB, i saw most of the rest. there is a good bit going on in the background.

one cmpn ive recently been flying (when i have time) is a fairly old one called "shooting stars".....and i cant recall the author right off. its a 1946 continuation of the war in europe where you fly P-80s against alot of the advanced luftwaffe planes etc. VERY well done, laid out, and written. I love this thing.....i didnt know this sim was so good with jets. I mean, this would make a great korea sim, the way it behaves so well with higher speeds and the way they perform, and all the little stuff you hvae to keep up wiht.

I highly recomend it....i think it is at air warfare, among a couple of other places i think.

zombiewolf92553
11-01-2005, 06:41 PM
Speed data?
Chuck Older yer getting sucked in.

Somebody got murdered last night(been listening to that album today can't get outta my head)

FlatSpinMan
11-01-2005, 07:38 PM
Hi Chuck, I just looked through a few briefings from your campaign and as Fly-zo said, there are no speeds mentioned. There are headings and altitudes and a lot of other mood-building,well-written pieces of info though. The lack of flight speeds didn't bother me when I played it but it is true nonetheless. I don't think fly_zo meant to critcise your campaign really, he merely made a passing comment that he preferred another AVG campaign. He is entitled to say that, especially as it was expressed so mildly
"WTCF by Chuck_Older is ok but i don't like starting with higest rank because there is no altitude and speed data in breifings so i get to soon or to late to the target, and there nothing going on neither on the ground or in the sky apart from your mission in whole campaign.(pardon for bad english)"

I have never made a campaign , but looking at WTCF I can see how well put together it is and how proud you must be of it and so I can easily understand how it would bother a person to hear unfavourable comments about so much of their hard work. Nevertheless, I don't think that his intention was to belittle your work. He did also mention in his posts that his English is not perfect so perhaps his ideas were expressed rather more directly than he intended.
Not wanting to ruffle any feathers here, in fact exactly the opposite.

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FlatSpinMan
11-01-2005, 07:40 PM
@zombiewolf - That's a Clash song name, I'm guessing? Thanks for the tip if it is. If it isn't, then thanks for the unpleasant and creepy peice of news http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

fly_zo
11-02-2005, 12:34 AM
to Chuck: I realy didn't mean to say that your campaign is bad or that you didn't put great deal of work into it. If you'we got that impression, please accept my deap apology for that . ( f*ck how you spell plural for apology.... )
I am such a fan of AVG campaign that maybe this clouded my judgement of your WTCF.

Thx for deleting your first couple of posts, realy you didn't mean what you wrote in them.

I live in country that fifteen years ago you didn't been allowed to criticize anything, or speak your mind realy freely so i guess i'we been carried away with my new freedom ( bad english again). Won't happen again!!!

fly_zo
11-02-2005, 12:43 AM
I don't think fly_zo meant to critcise your campaign really, he merely made a passing comment that he preferred another AVG campaign.

thank's m8!

Enforcer572005
11-02-2005, 03:17 AM
fly_zo, do you ever see croation air force Mig-21s or other aircraft flying around? I saw an article recently that featured them....cant remember the magazie, possilby "air forces".

I hope things are going much better around there than they were.

fly_zo
11-02-2005, 03:33 AM
fly_zo, do you ever see croation air force Mig-21s or other aircraft flying around? I saw an article recently that featured them....cant remember the magazie, possilby "air forces".

Yes you can see them from time to time but with army budget been so drastically cuted we end up with so many pilots without the plane ( imagine how frustrated they get after hard workin' in academy)

Ups, hope it wasn't millitary secret! But i heard about it on national tv so...

and yes things are so much better now since we have our own State.

thank's

FlatSpinMan
11-02-2005, 04:30 AM
You think that's bad, NZ actually put our few remaining fighter planes in storage in while attempting to sell them. So now our airforce consists of a few Hercs, some helicopters, and an Orion or two. While I think it is a shame as I'm a military plane fan, I can also see the sense in it. If any nation large enough and determined enough to want to send a fleet all the way down to NZ to attack us, then sixteen updated but still very old Skyhawks are not going to make much difference.

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fly_zo
11-02-2005, 05:22 AM
You think that's bad, NZ actually put our few remaining fighter planes in storage in while attempting to sell them. So now our airforce consists of a few Hercs, some helicopters, and an Orion or two. While I think it is a shame as I'm a military plane fan, I can also see the sense in it. If any nation large enough and determined enough to want to send a fleet all the way down to NZ to attack us, then sixteen updated but still very old Skyhawks are not going to make much difference.

You makin' good point there, but then again your
neighbourhood isn't so much infected with pased times and revenge thirsty people.... I still remember air raids over Zagreb and casette bombs falling down (wrigt word?!) and no fu*kin' planes to defend us.

I love fight simulators but there are no excuse for fighting in RL!

I wish to God that some aliens come and spank us with a big stick so we stop fighting eachother on this planet.

Ups! I get to serious here .... shame on me!!!!
and http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

FlatSpinMan
11-02-2005, 05:44 AM
Yeah, coming from my part of the world, it hardly seems possible that people like me went through hell just a few years ago. I always think of war as some distant, unrelated thing. Time to count my blessings, for sure.

fly_zo
11-02-2005, 05:50 AM
Yeah, coming from my part of the world, it hardly seems possible that people like me went through hell just a few years ago. I always think of war as some distant, unrelated thing. Time to count my blessings, for sure.

Yeah, but i will defend spain with furious anger and vampir teeth from my livingroom as soon as gods(gaston,obelix....) finish that campaign we all waiting for!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
to get back to the topic!

FlatSpinMan
11-02-2005, 06:08 AM
Excellent!!! I'll back you up from my spare room. Sounds a bit like Pulp Fiction there ("furious anger").

fly_zo
11-02-2005, 06:14 AM
Sounds a bit like Pulp Fiction there ("furious anger").

Yeap, the movie roks!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

tally ho m8!

TacticalYak3
11-02-2005, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Battle Over Britain, and Two Little DUCs are great fun and well done

I haven't played a lot of user-made campaigns, but did enjoy Two Little DUCs and as previously mentioned currently enjoying When Tigers Could Fly.

BTW Chuck sorry I missed your reply several pages ago. Again, well done with the mission briefings, your attention to historical detail added to the immersion/fun. And I can't recall any spelling mistakes. One thing that takes away from an otherwise nice campaign is seeing spelling/grammar mistakes. Makes what would have been a professional presentation into something else for me.

If there was a complaint, it would be low fps during some missions. To be fair this is well stated by you and in the end wasn't too much of a problem. Most missions I was able to enjoy using Perfect, some Excellent and a few High. The price we pay for having all those bombers in the current IL-2 engine.

I also liked the use of the online "mountain" map towards the end. Tried a few of the night missions but found it too hard for me. I don't use icons in my offline pursuits, and have no knack for finding bandits at night. Still the visibility was good and I'm sure folks with talent made out fine.

Just about done. Up to mission 31-32 after picking away at the campaign over the last couple of months. What with RL and other gaming interests it is nice to do a couple missions here and there. Also nice to tackle a campaign that isn't too long.

Regards,
TS!

P.S. Here's some pics from a couple of missions a while back. Too lazy to add descriptions. Trying to fly prudently. I was KIA at least once maybe twice. Had to bail several times.

http://ca.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumGraphics/IL2/WTCF1.jpg

http://ca.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumGraphics/IL2/WTCF2.jpg

http://ca.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumGraphics/IL2/WTCF3.jpg

http://ca.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumGraphics/IL2/WTCF4.jpg

http://ca.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumGraphics/IL2/WTCF5.jpg

http://ca.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumGraphics/IL2/WTCF6.jpg

http://ca.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumGraphics/IL2/WTCF7.jpg

http://ca.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumGraphics/IL2/WTCF8.jpg

http://ca.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumGraphics/IL2/WTCF9.jpg

han freak solo
11-02-2005, 08:04 AM
Bump to tha thread!!

The last two mini-campaigns I've completed were only 10 missions each.

One by Eurofinn flyin' the B-239 defending Finland against the Soviet horde. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Brewster http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns_eurofinn.htm


The other was a P11 campaign defending "Poland" (Berlin was Warsaw), by EAF_T_Whizz. The first opponents were the Germans in the West and then came the Soviets from the East. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Polish Campaign http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns.htm#016


Good Stuff!

FlatSpinMan
11-02-2005, 08:09 AM
Nice pics tactical_yak! han solo ("freak" is your middle name...), if I may call you that,did that P.11 one run okay with 4.02? Thought I heard someone say it didn't.

han freak solo
11-02-2005, 08:16 AM
Yes, man of the Flat Spin, both of these were started and completed with 4.02. No problemo.

FlatSpinMan
11-02-2005, 08:36 AM
Cool. I'll add it to my list.

Chuck_Older
11-02-2005, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by FlatSpinMan:
Hi Chuck, I just looked through a few briefings from your campaign and as Fly-zo said, there are no speeds mentioned. There are headings and altitudes and a lot of other mood-building,well-written pieces of info though. The lack of flight speeds didn't bother me when I played it but it is true nonetheless. I don't think fly_zo meant to critcise your campaign really, he merely made a passing comment that he preferred another AVG campaign. He is entitled to say that, especially as it was expressed so mildly
"WTCF by Chuck_Older is ok but i don't like starting with higest rank because there is no altitude and speed data in breifings so i get to soon or to late to the target, and there nothing going on neither on the ground or in the sky apart from your mission in whole campaign.(pardon for bad english)"

I have never made a campaign , but looking at WTCF I can see how well put together it is and how proud you must be of it and so I can easily understand how it would bother a person to hear unfavourable comments about so much of their hard work. Nevertheless, I don't think that his intention was to belittle your work. He did also mention in his posts that his English is not perfect so perhaps his ideas were expressed rather more directly than he intended.
Not wanting to ruffle any feathers here, in fact exactly the opposite.

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You're misunderstanding me, too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif If I wanted to tell fly_zo he was a jerk, I would have said "Fly_zo, shut up you are a jerk" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I'm not very shy. I don't think he's a jerk, I do however think that fly_zo, given his appraisal, has seriously overlooked some things, and now he's telling folks that things that are present in the campaign are actually not there.

If you read what I posted again, I never refuted that there was a lack of recommended speeds. I know about it (I wrote them after all), and it was intentional. If you look at the briefings, they all follow the same general form, and they are given in a conversational manner, as might be expected in an informal pre-flight meeting. Speeds? No, I don't think reliable speed info would help in this situation. Consider the terrain, the personell making the aircraft sightings, and what might have really been going on in China and Burma at the time. I have not been able to find any transcriptions of actual AVG briefs, or the extent of the info the Bamboo telegraph conveyed to the AVG. So I had to use logic- "OK, they are about this high, coming from that direction, and will arrive at location X in Y minutes" So speeds, no, I didn't bother. However, the heading they are coming from is usually at leat hinted at, and a rough idea of the altitude is given. The spot at which the intercept is planned is clearly marked for the player, and on occasion I mention what time to expect enemy contact. The briefings I made were not afterthoughts, or quickly thrown together. They were very carefully made to provide a bare minimum of info for completeing your goals. the player is supposed to be feeling overwhelmed in this campaign, it's part of what makes it so hard in some places. The briefing is part of that. Did I succeed? I don't know, but I feel very strongly that this type of briefing is more accurate than one which provides step by step instruction on how to make the intercept. This may give an idea on how much thought I gave to each element of the campaign http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Research took about twice as long as making missions

What all this is supposed to do is make the player think, "****, I better get there in a hurry or I'll miss the intercept!!" Then, if you get there too early, you can loiter in the area- which means you must keep your eyes open. If you show up early, or at least as fast as you can in this campaign, you can gain a serious height advantage while you wait for the enemy bombers.

This too is very much on purpose.

I am not of the opinion that exact, concise, and 100% accurate data should be given to the player- the "X course at Y speed at Z altitude, turn 90* at speed A, set a course for B degrees and fly for C minutes" approach is not mine, because after reading (many) accounts of the brevity of real briefings, I don't feel that more than a time, general location, and recommended altitude is usually what a real pilot would get

I'm not slamming fly_zo for his opinion, I am asking him to look a little closer at the package I provided. I do not deny speeds are not provided. I do however suggest a re-read of the briefing if no altitudes are provided, and actually, if you think back to basic time-distance-rate mathematics, you can easily gauge most speeds http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif But again, it's all un-necessary. If you fly 'manually', go pretty quickly! "For God's sake, the Japanese are coming with 45 bombers at nearlty 10,000 feet, and the sooner you intercept the less chance of their breaking through." So maybe the mindset was lacking? There is a need for urgency here! Get airborne! Get flying! Go! Go!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif And if you fly autopilot, you still arrive on time- but you don't secure any altitude advantage that's worthwhile.

Please beleive that this took some effort to acheive. Giving a recommended speed ruins that aspect of choosing how to approach the mission

I'm not going to spell everything out for the player. He or she is going to have to look at the map and do a little figuring. On the other hand, I made extra sure that given the version of the sim I used, that autopilot would guarantee that the player arrived on time, in every single case. In 4.02 that might have changed a bit

All I'm asking is that folks take a little closer look at people's work before they declare that XY or Z is missing. Clearly in this case, fly_zo simply overlooked almost 100% of what he thinks is missing. Speeds? I never wanted to provide them. everything else he thinks isn't there? Well, it's there, open the FMB and look http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

You have great latitude in making your missions succesful with this formula I have used, in my opinion. You can follow your flight path, get there on time (look at the clock, I did mention intercept times from time to time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif), and fight, or you can fly hell-bent-for-leather, get there early, and climb like all git-out to get a good advantage. It's up to the player. The last thing I wanted was to have to take the players by the hand and give them a blueprint they must follow to succeed

I don't think I'm out of line by suggesting that before folks pass judgement on anybody's work- again, not just mine- they look closer at what they are criticising

I am 100% open to constructive criticism. However, these critiques are mistakenly made. I don't think it's mean or rude or unfriendly to bring it up. Some errors were made with the evaluation of the work, quite cavalierly, I might add, and I have done my best to address the concerns without being confrontational. I'm not mad at anyone or being defensive. I'm just saying:
"There might be more than meets the eye, so don't go judging without a really close look". This applies to anything, not just this sim.

TacticalYak3
11-02-2005, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Bump to tha thread!!

The last two mini-campaigns I've completed were only 10 missions each.

One by Eurofinn flyin' the B-239 defending Finland against the Soviet horde. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Brewster http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns_eurofinn.htm


The other was a P11 campaign defending "Poland" (Berlin was Warsaw), by EAF_T_Whizz. The first opponents were the Germans in the West and then came the Soviets from the East. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Polish Campaign http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns.htm#016


Good Stuff!

Thanks for pointing out the Brewster campaign. Ten missions of the Continuation or Winter War? I'm thinking the Winter War though they didn't have Brewster active yet. However, I enjoy the Finnish modified Brewster!

TS!

neural_dream
11-02-2005, 10:38 AM
iirc only two brewsters fought during the winter war.

fly_zo
11-02-2005, 12:38 PM
Hi FlatSpinMan,
did you try this one?

RAF D-Day, 1944 26 missions flying the Spit IXe in 1944

here is the link:
http://www.combatplanes.ca/m_c.htm

You need realy powerful rig for that one. I can't wait that mine grows up. So far it's like slideshow but scenery look impressive though.

han freak solo
11-02-2005, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by TacticalYak3:
Ten missions of the Continuation or Winter War?
TS!

Dang, I don't know. My history in that area is really non-existant. I don't remember if the campaign mentioned it either.

The map is green and not snow covered. There might not be a winter map available for that region anyway.

Fly it and let me know! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

TacticalYak3
11-02-2005, 06:32 PM
Roger mate! Should get around with it once my term in China is over. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Chuck_Older
11-02-2005, 06:47 PM
Those are some pretty nice screenies, TacYak! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


I have to admit, that since we got the new clouds, the mission in the Salween gorge with the overcast is one I can't suceed in any more. It's kinda cool, not having good visibility, but I always get shot down on that one now, unless I run away. A few missions became very different in difficulty when 4.01 came out

zombiewolf92553
11-02-2005, 08:07 PM
Somebody got Murdered Its Clash.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gifBut I recorded it to cassette from vynland the label faded Chuck what album is this from ahhhhhhhhhhh http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif klling me

welcome to the group fly_zo

FlatSpinMan
11-03-2005, 01:21 AM
Fair enough, Chuck. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
@Zombiewolf - thanks for confirming that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

fly_zo
11-03-2005, 12:01 PM
Somebody got Murdered Its Clash.
HammerBut I recorded it to cassette from vynland the label faded Chuck what album is this from ahhhhhhhhhhh Blink klling me

welcome to the group fly_zo


Somebody Got Murdered The Clash Album: Sandinista

thanks zombiewolf92553

zombiewolf92553
11-03-2005, 06:38 PM
Right on thanks fly_zo, that was driving me crazy.I must get get that cd (when ever I get a cd player)
I still have a turntable,but all my LPs are at a friends.was into punk and new wave untill late 80's then I got OLD.I am more into dinosaur stuff like Mountain, Cream, Frank Zappa etc.

han freak solo
11-03-2005, 10:16 PM
A mission gone wrong from Straight Shot by Zues-cat.

"Hmmmm. The report says a spy stole one of our boats. We'll see about that."

"Time to go. Later dudes!"
http://www.lssdigital.com/rufemission01.jpg


"1st pass.....2nd pass.....3rd pass. This boat is made of iron?"
http://www.lssdigital.com/rufemission02.jpg


Hmmm, a little too low this time, eh Solo?
http://www.lssdigital.com/rufemission03.jpg


"I always wanted to fly an A6M2 anyway. Ooops, one float left. I better head home."
http://www.lssdigital.com/rufemission04.jpg


"Time to go. See ya, Rufey! . . . . "Aaauuggghh!!! My arm!!!"
http://www.lssdigital.com/rufemission05.jpg


"That's what I get for having high gore turned on. Stupid, stupid, stupid! Maybe I can still make that carrier."
http://www.lssdigital.com/rufemission06.jpg

(skin by Jesters-Ink @ http://www.flying-legends.net)

JG52_Helgstrand
11-05-2005, 03:13 PM
Available for download now, the first mini campaign from "Mad Missions".
by JG52~MadAdler...

"When Death Calls"

12 missions depicting the battle of Stalingrad 1942, for the Bf-109G-2 pilot.
A major turning point in the war, and is considered one of the bloodiest and largest battles in history. The Axis powers lost about a quarter of their total manpower on the Eastern Front, and never completely recovered from the defeat.
Includes skins by Helgs Skins.

http://www.helgsskins.com ...click on the
"Mad Missions" icon to download...

han freak solo
11-05-2005, 10:01 PM
Thank you, sir! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

han freak solo
11-09-2005, 12:34 PM
I just can't let this thread die!!!

Here's one I pirated from another thread.

-------------------------------------------------
By Kalaluth

Posted Thu September 29 2005 04:49
If you'd like to play a campaign over France in 39-40, you can download Chasseurs du Ciel (60Mb). The title of the campaign is in French, according to the book on which it is based, but the campaign itself is in English & French.
It can be played as a French pilot (6 missions) or as a German pilot (6 missions).

The campaign is based on a book writen by the capitain Accart in 1941. He was leader of the first flight of fighter squadron GC-I/5 in 39/40.

The campaign includes, up to now, the first chapter of the book, from Sept 39 to April 40. It is what we call in France the "drole de guerre" (strange war). No bomb, no fight on the ground, but at 20,000 + feet, interceptions, fighter sweeps, escorts... The rest of the adaptation in in development. Comments are welcome for designing it in the proper way! Wink

The link above includes missions, skins and videos. Users having a low speed internet connection can download the missions only HERE. (200kb vs 60Mb)

http://www.simulation-france-magazine.com/download.php?op=mydown&did=525
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here's the thread:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/8831000263

Zeus-cat
11-10-2005, 04:15 PM
I'm having fun with Hurricats by Dunkelgrun. You are flying catapult launched Hurricanes from specially outfitted merchant ships.

The campaign is based on actual missions. Your task is to defend the Atlantic convoys from German recon aircraft and the occassional bomber. You have to ditch in the cold, cold Atlantic at the end of each mission as there are no carriers or land bases nearby (throw a glass of icewater on yourself at the end of each mission for extra immersion).

To paraphrase Forest Gump, "I likes to ditch."

Zeus-cat

han freak solo
11-11-2005, 06:57 AM
Link, please??????

-HH-Dubbo
11-11-2005, 01:37 PM
It is very good. ZC, the water idea sounds intriguing....it may explain a little about you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Link is here HFS
http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns.htm#037

LT.INSTG8R
11-11-2005, 02:04 PM
Thorougly enjoying Dubbo's Castaways love the way it plays out makes regular campaigns seem boring, I never know what Im gonna be doing/flying next

FlatSpinMan
11-12-2005, 05:06 AM
Mr Solo, here is the link in Mission Builder's forum.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/50910533/m/2591085963

Zeus-cat
11-12-2005, 10:18 AM
I recommend Dunkelgrun's Hurricats campaign. I just finished it and it was good fun.

I give it two wheels up! You see, you have to ditch in almost every mission, so you keep your wheels up, get it - two wheels up, get it? Oh never mind. Just go and download the campaign from airwarfare.com

Zeus-cat

Enforcer572005
11-13-2005, 05:14 AM
youse guys.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

and H.F. Solo...."auuugh my arm!"... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I assume you did that in photoshop, since i cant get the politically correctness to go away and show anything other than an occaisional slumped gunner. I even saw a little runnin guy get run over by a tank, but he just looked like he was taking a nap. Very well done......

FlatSpinMan
11-13-2005, 05:15 AM
@Zeus-cat
What's the name of that little dance Johnny Carson did - the sideways shuffle, or something? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

-HH-Dubbo
11-14-2005, 01:07 PM
I have to recommend Zeus' "Straight Down" here as well. A great campaign for the SBD & it keeps growing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Han Freak Solo, I'm curious as to what happened next in the Straight Shot campaign. Please post more reports and screenies

han freak solo
11-14-2005, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Enforcer572005:
youse guys.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

and H.F. Solo...."auuugh my arm!"... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I assume you did that in photoshop, since i cant get the politically correctness to go away and show anything other than an occaisional slumped gunner.

The scene when the pilots arm is struck by the vertical stabilizer is a legit screen shot from the game. The pilot's arm stayed intact after the pilot cleared the AC, though. The free fall screenie is edited, for the drama you know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

-HH-Dubbo, I have to get in some more missions. I haven't simmed in about a week. Life took over, temporarily. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

han freak solo
11-19-2005, 06:18 PM
Today was my first "flight" in almost two weeks.

Here's some more from Straight Shot.

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater01.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater02.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater03.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater04.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater05.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater06.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater07.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater08.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater09.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater10.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater11.jpg

http://www.lssdigital.com/floathater12.jpg

Enforcer572005
11-19-2005, 07:17 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Thats the best thing ive seen on here in a month....URRK. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I use that same rufe skin....the stock one is a bit cartoonish. Ive got that cmpn, but havent had time to fly it...i barely have enough time to work on my own project, and its having to take a serious backseat to real life work etc, sort of like you have experienced.

Im almost scared to fly the pacific now, since float hater may be lurking.....

-HH-Dubbo
11-19-2005, 07:20 PM
LOL Nice HFS. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

FlatSpinMan
11-20-2005, 07:06 AM
Good one. Hope to see you back on the forums after your holiday "inside".This thread needs you.

Zeus-cat
11-20-2005, 09:10 AM
Han Freak Solo in "The Float Hater"

YIKES! (shudder) And to think, I am partly responsible for this.

To paraphrase a character on the TV show Seinfeld for HFS, "THAT'S IT, NO MORE CAMPAIGNS FOR YOU!"

Zeus-cat

neural_dream
11-20-2005, 09:13 AM
very good one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

han freak solo
11-20-2005, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Zeus-cat:
To paraphrase a character on the TV show Seinfeld for HFS, "THAT'S IT, NO MORE CAMPAIGNS FOR YOU!"

Zeus-cat

AAAUUUGGHH!!! The Campaign Nazi! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

CyberWings
11-20-2005, 03:00 PM
Can anyone post a link to download the straight shot campaign, please. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Dunkelgrun
11-20-2005, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by CyberWings:
Can anyone post a link to download the straight shot campaign, please. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

AirWarfare (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns_zeuscat.htm#003)

Cheers!

han freak solo
11-20-2005, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by CyberWings:
Can anyone post a link to download the straight shot campaign, please. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I should be a salesman. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

han freak solo
11-21-2005, 06:37 AM
http://members.aol.com/rynocub/soup.jpg

JERRY: There's only one caveat -- the guy who runs the place is a little

temperamental, especially about the ordering procedure. He's secretly

referred to as the Soup Nazi.

ELAINE: Why? What happens if you don't order right?

JERRY: He yells and you don't get your soup.

ELAINE: What?

JERRY: Just follow the ordering procedure and you will be fine.

GEORGE: All right. All right. Let's - let's go over that again.

JERRY: All right. As you walk in the place move immediately to your right.

ELAINE: What?

JERRY: The main thing is to keep the line moving.

GEORGE: All right. So, you hold out your money, speak your soup in a loud,

clear voice, step to the right and receive.

JERRY: Right. It's very important not to embellish on your order. No

extraneous comments. No

questions. No compliments.

http://www.comedyontap.com/features/images/larrythomas/point.gif

GEORGE: I didn't get any bread.

JERRY: Just forget it. Let it go.

GEORGE: Um, excuse me, I - I think you forgot my bread.

SOUP NAZI: Bread -- $2 extra.

GEORGE: $2? But everyone in front of me got free bread.

SOUP NAZI: You want bread?

GEORGE: Yes, please.

SOUP NAZI: $3!

GEORGE: What?

SOUP NAZI: No soup for you! [snaps fingers]

[cashier takes George's soup and gives him back his money]

han freak solo
11-21-2005, 04:38 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/5201019773

han freak solo
11-26-2005, 10:03 AM
Oooh!
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9411074083