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Bearcat99
12-04-2007, 03:18 PM
I guess this is the last few episodes they did... the times are kind of crazy... It looks like they are doing some of the episodes twice .. but Thursday & Friday look real good to me.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

New Dogfights Episodes 12/4-7 (http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=Minisite_Episodes&content_type_id=52079&display_order=2&mini_id=51833)

luftluuver
12-04-2007, 03:39 PM
On April 7, 1945, pilot Richard Candelaria becomes one of the first Americans to face the jet menace.

There was lots of encounters with German jet a/c before Apr 7 1945.

Bearcat99
12-04-2007, 03:51 PM
one of the first..

luftluuver
12-04-2007, 04:27 PM
One of the last would be better with only a month left in the war.

Btw, Capt Verne H ****** and Lt Hilton E ****** of the 379th FG each claimed a Me262 on that date. George E Bostwick of the 56th FG claimed one Me262 damaged.

Two Me262s were claimed damaged by the 356th FG and one claimed destroyed and 2 damaged by the 355th FG. The 356th FG claimed 2 more Me262s damaged.

On Sat Dec 23 1944, 2 P-51s of the 353rd FG escorting 2 F-5s from the 7th PRG were jumped by Me262s from III./JG 7.

I can give you more examples if you want.

Bearcat99
12-04-2007, 05:07 PM
What .. ever man.. either watch it or don't.. I didn't write the write up... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

BSS_Sniper
12-04-2007, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by luftluuver:
One of the last would be better with only a month left in the war.

Btw, Capt Verne H ****** and Lt Hilton E ****** of the 379th FG each claimed a Me262 on that date. George E Bostwick of the 56th FG claimed one Me262 damaged.

Two Me262s were claimed damaged by the 356th FG and one claimed destroyed and 2 damaged by the 355th FG. The 356th FG claimed 2 more Me262s damaged.

On Sat Dec 23 1944, 2 P-51s of the 353rd FG escorting 2 F-5s from the 7th PRG were jumped by Me262s from III./JG 7.

I can give you more examples if you want.

You should put in an app for the History Channel. :\

strider1
12-04-2007, 05:47 PM
Thanks, BC!
I, and I am sure, many others would have missed this if not for your post.
I like the show, more for the graghics and the action, allowing for it's historical inaccuracies which have been pointed out ad nauseum on these boards. Not much different from those that point out inaccuracies by various "historical" authors of aviation history books on this FG or JG or Wing, ect.
I agree that matters represented as fact should be accurate and others are entitled to point out corrections, in a nice way. I'd rather have correct information. But I'm not going to get hepped out because I saw an error in something that has other admirable qualities.
I look on it the same as the AI are too good, the .50 cal's are porked, the xxxxxx---it is what it is and I'll enjoy it in that light.
~S~ and Cheers!
Strider1

luftluuver
12-04-2007, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
What .. ever man.. either watch it or don't.. I didn't write the write up... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
What is with the snit fit? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

I will take a look at them but will most likely switch the channel after 5 minutes.

waffen-79
12-04-2007, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by luftluuver:
There was lots of encounters with German jet a/c before Apr 7 1945.

Yeah but not with a favorable result for a Dogfight episode LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

woofiedog
12-04-2007, 11:35 PM
Thank's for the Heads Up! Mint

Esel1964
12-05-2007, 12:22 AM
Thanks for passing the word,Bearcat!
I always found it weird how they stopped airing them,eventhough for awhile the website said there were new episodes left,then they removed them all from the site.

At least we'll get a chance to check them out finally.
Thanks again,M8.

woofiedog
12-05-2007, 12:59 AM
Replay of Dogfights on the History Channel in 5 min's...EST! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The.Tyke
12-05-2007, 01:26 AM
Especially as I've now got a HD plasma and the graphics are awesome !

TC_Stele
12-05-2007, 01:31 AM
It's amazing what those 2 .50s did to that 109. I don't mean to stir the hornet's nest, but that was cool to watch. I did that online once with just one .50 mg working.

general_kalle
12-05-2007, 01:46 AM
appearently theres a dogfights: The Game
http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=Minisit...rder=5&mini_id=51833 (http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=Minisite_Generic&content_type_id=54949&display_order=5&mini_id=51833)

doesnt look too impressive though

WOLFMondo
12-05-2007, 02:33 AM
When they gonna do an episode with a British or commonwealth ace? Or feature a non American aircraft?

woofiedog
12-05-2007, 03:30 AM
Good question... would like to hear from more of the other surviving combat pilots from both sides of the war.

HayateAce
12-05-2007, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by luftluuver:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
What .. ever man.. either watch it or don't.. I didn't write the write up... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
What is with the snit fit? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

I will take a look at them but will most likely switch the channel after 5 minutes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Keep it up and the "snit fit" will turn out to be a little much needed vacation for you. None of us here care about your comments.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

GregGal
12-05-2007, 07:38 AM
I'm wondering when will they make a Corsair episode...

woofiedog
12-05-2007, 08:39 AM
[edit] Pilot episode
Pilot episode " The Greatest Air Battles (original air date 9/16/05): US Army Air Force SPAD S.XIII piloted by Eddie Rickenbacker vs. German Fokker D.VII and LVG C.VI; US Army Air Force P-51 Mustang piloted by Bud Anderson vs. Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Me-109; US Air Force F-86 Sabre piloted by Frederick "Boots" Blesse vs. North Korean MiG-15; US Navy F-4 Phantom piloted by Duke Cunningham and Willy "Irish" Driscoll vs. North Vietnamese MiG-17.

[edit] Season one
01. MiG Alley (11/03/06): US Air Force aces Robbie Risner and Ralph Parr fly the F-86 Sabre vs. MiG-15 in the Korean War.
02. Air Ambush (11/10/06): US Army Air Force P-38 Lightning vs. Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Me-109. F4 Phantoms trick MiG-21s into a dogfight by disguising themselves as F-105 Thunderchiefs, natural prey of the MiG-21.
03. Flying Tigers (11/17/06): Flying Tigers squadron; Leading Tiger aces Tex Hill and John Alison's P-40 Tomahawk vs. Imperial Japanese Army Air Service Ki-27 Nate, Ki-21 Sally, and Ki-43 Oscar.
04. Guadalcanal (11/24/06): Guadalcanal campaign aces; Capt John Smith and Medal of Honor recipients Jefferson J. DeBlanc and James E. Swett pilot the Grumman F4F Wildcat vs. Mitsubishi Zero, F1M Pete, D3A Val, and Ki-43 Oscar.
05. Hell Over Hanoi (12/01/06): American Fred Olmsted and Dan Cherry, and ace Steve Ritchie in USAF F-4 Phantom vs. North Vietnamese MiG-21.
06. The Zero Killer (12/08/06): Robert Duncan, Hamilton McWhorter and Alex Vraciu fly the US Navy Grumman F6F Hellcat in battle against the Japanese Mitsubishi Zero.
07. Death of the Japanese Navy (12/15/06): The Leyte Gulf attack on the Japanese battleship Yamato, and the counter attack of destroyers against an armored main battle force in the Battle off Samar. Despite lacking suitable armament except for torpedoes, destroyers with carrier air support inflicted enough damage and confusion to send the Japanese force back without it accomplishing its primary goal.
08. The Last Gunfighter (12/22/06): US Navy pilots Paul Speer, Phil Wood and Lt. Commander Richard Schaffert in the F-8 Crusader vs. North Vietnamese Air Force MiG-17.
09. Long Odds (01/12/07): Showcases survival stories of bomber pilots battling fighter aircraft. US Army Air Force B-17 Flying Fortress vs. Mitsubishi Zeroes & Ki-46 Dinah; US Air Force F-105 Thunderchief vs. North Vietnamese Air Force MiG-17; US Navy SBD Dauntless vs. Mitsubishi Zero.
10. Dogfights of the Middle East (01/26/07): Israeli Air Force Mirage III vs. Egyptian Air Force MiG-17 & MiG-19; defection of an Iraqi Air Force MiG-21; Israeli Air Force F-15 Eagle vs. Syrian Air Force MiG-21.
11. Hunt for the Bismarck (1/30/07): The HMS Hood is sunk, then British Royal Navy Swordfish planes attack the German battleship Bismarck.

[edit] Season two
01. Kamikaze (7/13/07): Towards the end of World War II, Japan sent volunteer pilots on suicide attacks against American naval targets. Kamikaze attacks covered include those against the escort carrier USS St. Lo on October 25, 1944, and the destroyer USS Laffey on April 15, 1945. Also discussed is the use of Japanese Ohka rocket planes.
02. The Luftwaffe's Deadliest Mission (7/13/07): German ramming of American bombers by the Sonderkommando Elbe, on April 7, 1945. Note: This episode is sometimes combined with the previous one and shown as a single, two hour episode called "Kamikaze".
03. Jet vs. Jet (7/20/07): In the skies over North Korea, F-86 Sabres battle MiG-15s. American pilots such as James Jabara, Ralph "Hoot" Gibson, and Ralph Parr are in pursuit of a previously unknown achievement " the title of jet ace.
04. Thunderbolt (7/27/07): The rugged P-47 Thunderbolt, or "jug" as it was known, was the largest single-seat fighter plane of World War II. The episode portrays aerial battles fought by Robert S. Johnson, George Sutcliffe, and Ken Dalhberg.
05. Gun Kills of Vietnam (8/3/07): The era of missiles had arrived, and electronic warfare was coming of age. But when technology failed, pilots were forced to do combat the old-fashioned way " with guns. Clinton Johnson and Charles Hartman down a MiG-17 with propeller-driven A-1 Skyraiders; Robert Titus and Milan Zimer's F-4 Phantom shoots it out with a gun pod against MiG-21s; Darrell Simmonds and George McKinney's Phantom fights MiG-17s.
06. Desert Aces (8/10/07): Pilots of the Israeli Air Force. The episode covers combat missions flown by Ran Ronen and by "ace of aces" Giora Epstein. Ronen used the French-built Mirage III to engage Hawker Hunters. Epstein flew a Mirage against Egyptian Sukhoi Su-7s in the Six-Day War, and piloted a Nesher against MiG-21s in the Yom Kippur War.
07. The First Dogfighters (8/23/07): Dogfighting was invented by the fighter pilots of World War I. Ernst Udet's Albatros D.III vs. Georges Guynemer's SPAD VII. Werner Voss, flying a Fokker triplane, battles six S.E.5a pilots, including James McCudden, Arthur Rhys Davids, and Richard Maybery. Arthur Raymond Brooks and his SPAD XIII dogfights with eight Fokker D.VIIs.
08. No Room for Error (8/30/07): Low-altitude dogfights are portrayed. Art Fiedler and his P-51 Mustang in World War II; James H. Kasler and his F-86 Sabre in the Korean War; Robin Olds and Steve Croker in their F-4 Phantom II in the Vietnam War.
09. Night Fighters (09/21/07): The history of dogfighting in darkness is covered. Radar equipped F6F Hellcats shoot down seaplanes, and P-61 Black Widows score kills in World War II. The F3D Skyknight downs a faster MiG-15 in the Korean War. USAF F-15 Eagles and planes with stealth technology oppose MiG-29s in Operation Allied Force.
10. The Bloodiest Day (12/03/07): May 10, 1972, was the bloodiest day of air combat during the Vietnam war. The episode includes battles fought by Bob Lodge and Roger Locher.
11. P-51 Mustang (12/04/07): In the European theater of World War II, the P-51 Mustang became one of the conflict's most successful and recognizable aircraft.
12. Dogfights of Desert Storm (12/05/07): American fighter pilots pit F-15s against Iraqi MiG-25s and advanced Mig-29s as part of Operation Desert Storm.
13. Tuskegee Airmen (12/06/07): The Tuskegee Airmen were African-American pilots of the 332d Fighter Group. They distinguished themselves as one of the most successful fighter groups of World War II, despite the bigotry and prejudice they faced from their own countrymen.
14. MIG Killers of Midway (12/07/07): Recalling Vietnam War battles involving planes from the USS Midway.
15. Battle for the Falklands (XX/XX/XX): The 1982 Argentine invasion of the Falkland Islands triggered war with the United Kingdom. VTOL Sea Harriers take on Mirages and A-4 Skyhawks. The British establish air superiority, but the Argentines sink several ships with wave-top level attacks in A-4s.
16. Supersonic (XX/XX/XX): Stories of the development of jet aircraft and their subsequent introduction into combat. Includes stories of test pilots who were the first Germans and Americans to fly these aircraft and the air battles that were fought through the years at supersonic speed.
17. Death of the Luftwaffe (XX/XX/XX): The Luftwaffe's last great offensive, called Operation Bodenplatte, was launched on January 1, 1945. Oscar Boesch was a German pilot who took part. Sandy Moats and Alden Rigby were American pilots whose airbase was attacked by fighters. After this day, the Luftwaffe was shattered as an effective fighting force.

Korolov1986
12-05-2007, 08:56 AM
I caught the "P-51 Mustang" episode last night. I didn't agree with the program in general, but it was fun to listen to the pilots talk.

Getting shot at is "dang good fun!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

jarink
12-05-2007, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Korolov1986:
I caught the "P-51 Mustang" episode last night. I didn't agree with the program in general, but it was fun to listen to the pilots talk.

Getting shot at is "dang good fun!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I saw it, too. I want to know how that guy "cornered" his P-51 around like they showed. Talk about UFOs! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

berg417448
12-05-2007, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
When they gonna do an episode with a British or commonwealth ace? Or feature a non American aircraft?

They already have...several times. From memory I recall that they have already done episodes on the following topics:

WWI German and French aces
Hunt for the Bismark
Israeli aces flying French Mirages

buzzsaw1939
12-05-2007, 10:58 AM
Personaly I love that series! untill last night.

They seem to have hired some new graghics techs, that don't know much about flying, or at least camera angles, I hope they clean that up fast.

As for the ufo turn, you'll have to go by his discription, not the graghics! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

wayno7777
12-05-2007, 08:31 PM
Dogfights in 1991 over Iraq tonight....