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Swampy1961
01-30-2007, 01:20 PM
Has anyone heard anything more about the future of U534 in Liverpool?

VikingGrandad
01-30-2007, 03:32 PM
There has been no news for a very long time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

It looks like she is going to be left to rot http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

hueywolf123
01-30-2007, 03:35 PM
Why can't we put the hat around?

VikingGrandad
01-30-2007, 04:07 PM
I think it would have to be a hefty donation we'd have to put together... Apparently it cost 150,000 to move U-534 400 yards down the dock so that land development could start.

I've just found this gallery of photos (http://news.webshots.com/slideshow/555717251mndVpa) taken by someone who went to see the move.

Interesting to see one of the photos shows a car featuring the logo of the Danish media company which owns the wreck.

ottoramsaig
01-30-2007, 04:46 PM
What a shame to see an old soldier just fade away. Was she raised from the depths? Hoping to hit the lotto!......Otto
P.S.Us Americans can see U507 in great shape in Virgina, don't forget the USS Ling in Hackensack NJ

tuddley3
01-30-2007, 06:45 PM
They arent gonna scrap her are they?(U-534) That would be heart breaking to destroy such a beautiful beast. Ain't there a Museum that would make room for her ?

AO1_AW_SW_USN
01-30-2007, 08:37 PM
I bet if we all contribute through petition, we could be a powerful voice in order to save that U-boat.

I would lead the charge, but it would be difficult to correspond from across the Atlantic Ocean. We need a representative from the UK to petition to their local government so we could save this fine piece of history. I'll do my part in sending correspondence to my local Congressmen and to the Smithsonian Institute here in the US.

Hopefully, with a loud enough voice, we could see what could be done to convince the British Government to save that boat.

hueywolf123
01-31-2007, 02:51 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif, absolutely bud, nail on the head. I'll second you on that. Perhaps we can get the wolves at war, and the subsim crews onto it also

Swampy1961
01-31-2007, 11:50 AM
Great pics of the move VG. It is criminal to see a piece of our history being neglected like this. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Realjambo
01-31-2007, 12:56 PM
Count me in definitely. If we're going to be serious about it, may I suggest we form a 'commitee' with defined roles?

Messervy
01-31-2007, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by VikingGrandad:
Apparently it cost 150,000 to move U-534 400 yards down the dock so that land development could start.

I bet that we (enthusiasts) can move it for a tenth of that price.....and in totalitarian system they would have moved it for free.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif That`s the price for living in Democracy.

AO1_AW_SW_USN
01-31-2007, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Realjambo:
Count me in definitely. If we're going to be serious about it, may I suggest we form a 'commitee' with defined roles?


I'm serious about this! Perhaps we should ask VG to allow us to sticky a post called "Save Our History" (or something of that nature).

This would be an opportunity for a gaming community, so passionate about not only the game, but also for it's real life counterpart. I truly believe that we could make a difference if we have enough people to come on board with this quest.

hueywolf123
01-31-2007, 06:21 PM
Yes, good point. If I had the dollars, I'd buy her myself, renovate, then give guided tours. But no idiotic 'doors' cut into the sides. Everything as was. All visitors to sign disclaimers.
Seriously, this boat needs to be rescued. She's a part of living history and letting her rust away is a crime

tuddley3
01-31-2007, 06:25 PM
Count me in to help petition.

AO1_AW_SW_USN
01-31-2007, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by hueywolf123:
Yes, good point. If I had the dollars, I'd buy her myself, renovate, then give guided tours. But no idiotic 'doors' cut into the sides. Everything as was. All visitors to sign disclaimers.
Seriously, this boat needs to be rescued. She's a part of living history and letting her rust away is a crime


No, no no. We will restore the boat and make her sea-worthy. She will go from port-to-port on a world cruise so that everyone in the world would she her in all her glory. (dream big!)

VikingGrandad
01-31-2007, 06:37 PM
A guy from Liverpool organised a petition last year which was submitted to the landowners, local council and the regional business development agency. From memory, it had over 1,500 signatures - many from this forum and other submarine forums.

Unfortunately, it seems to have had little effect http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

There's a discussion about ideas/problems regarding U-534's future on uboat.net's forum:

U-534's Last Resting Place? (http://uboat.net/forum/read.php?f=3&i=47223&t=46651)

AO1_AW_SW_USN
01-31-2007, 06:49 PM
I remember that particular petition, and I was a part of that.

The only way anything could happen is to go though a preservation society such as the Smithsonian Institute, History Channel.com or any of the various veterans' organizations. Local Government officials (who may serve special interest groups) is also on the list of resources available.

In order to make this work, you would need more that a piece of paper with signatures and a few phone calls.

danurve
02-01-2007, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by VikingGrandad:
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I've just found this gallery of photos (http://news.webshots.com/slideshow/555717251mndVpa) taken by someone who went to see the move.

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Real interesting presentation.

Rudeltaktik1963
02-02-2007, 05:16 AM
I remember signing the petition as well. Shame to hear there are no plans.

It always struck me that there is so much potential to use the U534 as the centrepiece of a Battle of the Atlantic museum or exhibition based in Liverpool (where the RN had its whole convoy system HQ under Max Horton).

I think we could organise some more effective representation to the Local Authority (Liverpool City Council, local Members of Parliament and bodies such as the Museums, Libraries and Archives Council. Is it worth writing to the RN Submarine Museum in Gosport or the Imperial War Museum to see if there is anything they can do in terms of support/pressure on goverment/providing a home?

I wonder if anyone has thought of writing directly to the owners for their definitive statement? I would be happy to do so if I can get hold of an address.

I'm very happy to work with other members of this forum to try to get some answers on this issue - I think it is too important to let it fade away without a fight. It dishonours all (cmerchant sailors, civilian passnegers and naval personnel of both sides) who took part in that conflict, to the successful outcome of which we in Britain owe our freedom.

pmh273
02-02-2007, 09:46 AM
Hello all,

I looked into this in October and found an organisation called Sharkhunters who are dedicated to U-boats (www.sharkhunters.com). I emailed the bloke who runs the site and asked about U-534. a transcript of my email conversations follows (i hope he doesn't mind me printing it here):

Form Sharkhunters -

"Hi Paul,
Do we know about U-534? One of our Members was the RAF bombardier who sank
it. Another of our Members was the diver who found it on the bottom. Yet
another of our Members was in charge of raising her. Then things went off
the track when the warehouses in Birkenhead were sold and U-534 had to
move........and she cannot. We offered to buy her but................well,
it was all in our various monthly magazines over the past year. The way
the owner is mis-handling the situation, our guess is that the boat will
eventually be broken up on site. Sad, but probable."

From me -

"Thanks very much for the information. Very sad to hear about the
scrapping. Shame no-one from the Royal Navy Submarine Museum down at
Gosport was interested."

From sharkhunters -

"Like anything else in this world - it costs money. AND the cost of the
huge cranes needed to move the boat is also tremendously high, further
making it costly. By the time all is said and done, I think the cost will
run in the area of $4 million. At five bucks per person, how many need to
come through the turnstile to offset that kind of investment? A quick
tapping on my calculator says 800,000 are needed, and that isn't even
taking into account ongoing repairs, maintenance, upkeep, electricity to
light it, salaries of workers and God knows what else. It began as a rich
man's toy and I think it will die the same way."
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I also spoke to the guide at the Submarine museum down in Gosport on a recent visit and he said that U-534 was in poor condition anyway and not safe to visit.

Unfortunately I have no further updates than that.

I think its a damn shame to loose such a relic from history.