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Verber
08-12-2004, 05:06 PM
I plan to buy the Gold edition and expansion to IL2.
Question:Is there any great tank sims similar in quality as IL2?

Verber
08-12-2004, 05:06 PM
I plan to buy the Gold edition and expansion to IL2.
Question:Is there any great tank sims similar in quality as IL2?

Ak9779
08-12-2004, 05:33 PM
Not that I've found.
*Sigh*

Who knows how to code, dammit? Let's just make one. UT2k4 is moddable and has vehicle and physics code already, how about we start with that?

Later,
Ak

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MACHINE GUN : JAMMED
FUEL TANK: LEAK
ENGINE: ON FIRE
PILOT: WOUNDED
...Yeah, it's gonna be one of those days...

Bikewer
08-12-2004, 05:58 PM
Pssst...Hey, Kid, ya wanna drive a PZIII? Join the Wehrmacht today. We can getcha a Stug real easy. Just stay outa them Frenchie Chars and Lend-lease Stuarts.

Seriously, if you can handle the monthly fee, WWII online is a pretty good tank game. You gotta rank up to handle the top-line armor in each army, but it doesn't take too long.

El Turo
08-12-2004, 06:06 PM
The best tank simulation in existence at this time is WWII Online, no lie.

The sim has accurate ballistics & physics-based performance, calculates for armor thickness, energy in joules carried by the round downrange (different for each projectile/gun) and even consideres the ultra fine details like density values for different kinds of manufacturing processes. Radiators, transmissions, brakes, treads, fuel, ammo, engines.. and a bunch of other independently damagable equipment. If tanking is what you're into.. then WWII Online is your bag.

The tank/infantry battle is by far the best part of the whole thing though. If you're looking for a quality flight sim, it's a bit simplified over there compared to IL2 with some quirks in the FM.

If you want to get hooked up with some folks for some team oriented play and big armored assaults (20-40 units apiece a lot of times), feel free to drop by www.lafayettefederation.com (http://www.lafayettefederation.com) and say "howdy" in the public forums.

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Regards,

~T.

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2004, 08:23 PM
I gotta admit, WWIIOL's armor module is pretty good, although when I played a year or longer ago, there were some sneaking suspicions that some of the weapons' effectiveness vis a vis armor were a bit, uh, gamed and "playbalanced"; kind of like the discussions here.

But then again, all of WWIIOL is suspect from an accuracy POV, just because their goal is to playbalance it. Why the numbskulls chose the Battle of France in 1940 to portray an "even battle" just boggles my mind. I mean...

http://www.naysayers.com/Tikvah.jpg COME ON!!!!!!!

Panzer Elite (http://www.panzerelite.com/panzerelite.html) is also a VERY good tank sim, although it has its limits in online playability; they never figured out a way to get anything other than a deathmatch going for online.

Oilburner_TAW
08-12-2004, 08:46 PM
There is a huge realism mod for battlefield 1942 called forgotten hope @ http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com/main.html

The flying is kinda arcade but the tanks are spot-on and the detail and number of vehicles available is incredible (just look at the website). Maps range from 1939-1945 with all of the battles/appropriate vehicles modeled (and the graphics are a lot better than ww2online). I really don't like bf1942 because of the arcade feel, but forgotten hope makes it a completely different game. Buying bf1942 has to be one of the best buys out there just due to the number of high quality mods/conversions available free for the game (desert combat which is modern warfare, star wars mod, pirates mod with pirate ships,etc.., interstate 82 which is like mad max, etc.. etc..).

Please, check out forgotten hope...you'll absolutely love it.

Oilburner_TAW
08-12-2004, 08:50 PM
forgot about another mod called battlefield 1918...if your a tank nut like me, the chance to drive an a7v is worth the download in itself.

diesel97
08-13-2004, 12:24 AM
Hi

Graphics aren't razor-edge, but you cannot beat it for realism and gameplay - for best modern tank-sim, Steelbeasts is it.

Cheers

Verber
08-13-2004, 12:43 AM
Guess I miss driving a tank. I drove the M60A3 in Berlin and W. Germany back in the 80s. Would be nice driving one around in a tank sim http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

269GA-Maxmars
08-13-2004, 01:04 AM
Then, if you haven't, try this one:

http://www.steelbeasts.com/

Bad bad graphics, great great modeling of all tank stuff.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
08-13-2004, 03:50 AM
Not a simulator but still drool worthy stuff for all you hardcore Tankers out there.

http://www.mark-1-tank.co.uk/

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v323/tHeBaLrOgRoCkS/planes/signiture3.jpg

Skycat_2
08-13-2004, 10:37 AM
I'm sure you've heard of "Panzer Elite." It is an older sim (1998 I think) that had an initial run, disappeared from the shelves, and subsequently became a highly sought-out item among WWII armor enthusiasts. If you found it on E-bay, you could expect to pay $70 or more for it easily. Then in around late 2002 JoWood Simulations re-released it along with a mods CD and called it "Panzer Elite: Special Edition." On the positive side, by this time personal computers had finally evolved to where their processors could smoothly run the game; however, the graphics of the game looked very dated by then. I'd put PE:SE on about the same level as "B-17: Mighty Eighth" for looks, game mode and playability.

PE:SE models various crew positions in a somewhat 3-D view (not mouse pan, but better than a 2-D panel) and they look very authentic. However, the view system can be frustrating to navigate, especially in the thick of battle. Fifty percent of the game is resource management and platoon leadership; you have to worry about fuel and ammo and crew training, etc., between missions.

I've heard rumors that the developers (Wings Simulations) were working on a "Panzer Elite 2," and I've seen some beautiful development shots that rival the graphics of 1C:Maddox Games' RTS "Battlefield Command" that is also in development. Personally I'd rather drive and crew an AFV than direct it from bird's eye view ...

I tried an early (probably debut) version of "WWII Online" and I agree that it was very good for representing tanks. Any dedicated WWII armor sim done in the same style but with offline playability and enhanced graphics would become my new favorite. I haven't looked into more recent versions of WWII Online because I'm not interested in paying the membership fee.

Simjock
08-13-2004, 10:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maxmars:
Then, if you haven't, try this one:

http://www.steelbeasts.com/

Bad bad graphics, great great modeling of all tank stuff.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Steal beasts is by far the most acurate Armored Combat Simulator available out side of Ft. Knox Ky.

The M1-A1, and Leo 2 models are so well done the game may be to much for casual players, but expierianced tankers will have flash backs from their army days. It's that good.

Probably best not descriced as a game at all. The developers put this simulation together in hopes of selling to the Army.

"Garry Owen!"

http://www.pcaviation.net/simjocksig.jpeg (http://www.pcaviation.net/)

"Take-off is optional, landing is manditory. When worse comes to worse, just remember to keep the greasy side down."

El Turo
08-13-2004, 11:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I tried an early (probably debut) version of "WWII Online" and I agree that it was very good for representing tanks. Any dedicated WWII armor sim done in the same style but with offline playability and enhanced graphics would become my new favorite. I haven't looked into more recent versions of WWII Online because I'm not interested in paying the membership fee<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For what it's worth, you can download the full version of the game for free and check it out offline on the "training grounds" but without any live opposition. Mainly, I'd recommend checking it out just to oggle the new graphical improvements and textures since the old days of the "golf courses of Europe" landscaping.

=]

It's also fun to drive out to the tank ranges and practice trying to hit the longer-range targets with a bullseye. Or, you can go driving off into town and shoot up some buildings and rumble through the off-road bushes/burms and treelines.

Recently, they even added full track IR native support for all infantry AND vehicles.. so you can look around from any position in any vehicle now in a fully 3D environment. Pretty nifty.

Callsign "Turo" in IL2:FB & WWIIOL
______________________
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a place
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I thought,
reloading my rifle.

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Capt.England
08-13-2004, 01:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Verber:
Guess I miss driving a tank. I drove the M60A3 in Berlin and W. Germany back in the 80s. Would be nice driving one around in a tank sim http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Operation Flashpoint has an M60 tank that you can use in it. A very good game with late 80's based campaign.

Britwhiner No.1

NippleCorn
08-13-2004, 02:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oilburner_TAW:
There is a huge realism mod for battlefield 1942 called forgotten hope @ http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com/main.html

The flying is kinda arcade but the tanks are spot-on and the detail and number of vehicles available is incredible (just look at the website). Maps range from 1939-1945 with all of the battles/appropriate vehicles modeled (and the graphics are a lot better than ww2online). I really don't like bf1942 because of the arcade feel, but forgotten hope makes it a completely different game. Buying bf1942 has to be one of the best buys out there just due to the number of high quality mods/conversions available free for the game (desert combat which is modern warfare, star wars mod, pirates mod with pirate ships,etc.., interstate 82 which is like mad max, etc.. etc..).

Please, check out forgotten hope...you'll absolutely love it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where's the T34???

El Turo
08-13-2004, 03:46 PM
Does forgotten hope include accurate physics-based penetration and damage models? I remember playing the original BF1942 and you could take out tigers with pistols if you shot the fender enough times. Very lame.

Callsign "Turo" in IL2:FB & WWIIOL
______________________
This place
was once
a place
of worship
I thought,
reloading my rifle.

~V.