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JG10r_Bull
08-04-2006, 02:19 AM
what go u guys think of the saitek X52 joystick
does it work ok with IL2?

JG10r_Bull
08-04-2006, 02:19 AM
what go u guys think of the saitek X52 joystick
does it work ok with IL2?

La7_brook
08-04-2006, 02:29 AM
will be my next stick , say 7 days time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JG10r_Bull
08-04-2006, 02:35 AM
LOL me too in 2 Days now!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

did my tax and buying it with my tax return http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

but how does it handld IL2 ?

Genie-
08-04-2006, 02:37 AM
I have saitek x52 as my new joy for 2 months by now.. and I am delighted!!! a great joy with tons of possibilities. just remember to use x52 joy settings tool for mappings and you will be fine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JG10r_Bull
08-04-2006, 02:40 AM
and were do i get that from Genie ?
going to D/L profiles and stuff before i buy so
i can just plug and play http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Immermann
08-04-2006, 02:48 AM
You can download the SST-software from Saiteks site. Ah, sorry, just checked to make sure, you must have a Saitek joystick plugged in for it to work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Vacillator
08-04-2006, 03:43 AM
X52 works great for Il2 / PF. Lots of programmable buttons, sliders, switches etc. You can twist for rudder or lock it if you have pedals (I'd get some CH Pros if you have some cash handy).

As for profiles I found them interesting to look at to see how to do things but I built up my own profile as it's a bit of a personal thing which buttons etc you want to do certain things (and you will need to assign keyboard keystrikes in PF to actions which are not assigned by default - if you use someone else's profile you need to check carefully that you assign exactly the same keys as they used).

Ernst_Rohr
08-04-2006, 08:31 AM
I have been running an X52 for quite a while now and I have been very happy with it. TONS of programmable controls with it.

As far as programming, here are a couple of recommendations.

Throttle;
Large Rotary on top- Rudder trim
Thumb Rotary- aileron trim
Slider- PROP PITCH!!
Mini-Mouse- a lot of folks use it for gunner contols, mine is disabled since it conflicted with my logitech mouse.
Rotary buttons- personal preference, I have the top rotary button mapped to dive brakes.
Thumb Button- Wheelbrakes.

Joystick-
Trigger is 2 Stage! This is handy, since you can have the 1st stage set to fire just machineguns, and 2nd stage set to fire MG + Cannon.
Fire 2- Cannon only
Fire 3- Bombs
Fire 4- Rockets
Saftey covered fire button- Eject! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Hat 1- View controls if your not using TrackIR

I have TrackIR, so I have my hat buttons mapped to elevator trim, mixture controls.

Base tabs-
Flaps up/flaps down
chocks away/arrestor hook toggle
cockpit toggle/seat position toggle.


Basically, find what keys you use the MOST when flying and map them to the main contols. Less used keys should go to the base toggles.

Play with it till you find a system your comfortable with, then stick with it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GreyFox5
08-04-2006, 10:03 AM
I have had the Saitek X52 since the Christmas it first came out. And I never had the big dead space issue averyone was talking about. The stick has not gone loose so I think it was built for lots of abuse.

Pros: Stick has a nice feel and I like the fact that they made it two parts but only one USB port taken up. Programming is fun and I've made changes right along to fit my style of flying.

Cons: For some reason the mode changes do not work in IL2+AEP+PF. Your stuck with Mode1 and the game will not recognize mode switching.

I also have the Satek Gamers keyboard which is backlit and has a 9 key keypad special function addition so I use that for Track IR and bomber functions like multi engine start with macro and position switching in the bomber.

Its a good stick and I hope to add the announced rudder pedals when they arrive in stores.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/GreyFox5/X52.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/GreyFox5/GamersKeyboard.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/GreyFox5/saitekrudderpedals.jpg

Cheers!

Fox

russ.nl
08-04-2006, 11:50 AM
I have it too. It has a lot of programmeble buttons wich is good. I only have some problem with the throttle. I can't get it to 0 throttle and my mouse stick interfeers with my own mouse when I'm not playing.
But I believe that are problems of the earlyer productions. I got mine when it was just released.

Ernst_Rohr
08-04-2006, 11:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I have it too. It has a lot of programmeble buttons wich is good. I only have some problem with the throttle. I can't get it to 0 throttle and my mouse stick interfeers with my own mouse when I'm not playing.
But I believe that are problems of the earlyer productions. I got mine when it was just released. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Russ, you can fix the throttle zero by going to
Start----&gt;Control Panel---&gt;Game Controllers and selecting the X52. Go into the tab with all the range bands in it. Find the Throttle range of motion, and click the check box to seperate the "connected range". Then move the throttle all the way back. When its zeroed, adjust the range band of the throttle to meet the black line for the indicated stop on the throttle.

Presto! Throttle is now correctly set, and you will have it zeroed out in game. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I had the same problem with it and the mouse. I disabled the mouse on the Throttle, since I didnt really need it.

russ.nl
08-04-2006, 12:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ernst_Rohr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I have it too. It has a lot of programmeble buttons wich is good. I only have some problem with the throttle. I can't get it to 0 throttle and my mouse stick interfeers with my own mouse when I'm not playing.
But I believe that are problems of the earlyer productions. I got mine when it was just released. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Russ, you can fix the throttle zero by going to
Start----&gt;Control Panel---&gt;Game Controllers and selecting the X52. Go into the tab with all the range bands in it. Find the Throttle range of motion, and click the check box to seperate the "connected range". Then move the throttle all the way back. When its zeroed, adjust the range band of the throttle to meet the black line for the indicated stop on the throttle.

Presto! Throttle is now correctly set, and you will have it zeroed out in game. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I had the same problem with it and the mouse. I disabled the mouse on the Throttle, since I didnt really need it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thx mate problem solved. Say, do you have a sollucion for a defected swich? I spilled some beer on it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Ernst_Rohr
08-04-2006, 12:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Thx mate problem solved. Say, do you have a sollucion for a defected swich? I spilled some beer on it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like alchohol abuse to me mate! You should be nicer to your beer, spilling it is a cruel thing to do to a nice beer! Especially since you guys have much better beer than what we have over here! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

russ.nl
08-04-2006, 01:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ernst_Rohr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Thx mate problem solved. Say, do you have a sollucion for a defected swich? I spilled some beer on it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like alchohol abuse to me mate! You should be nicer to your beer, spilling it is a cruel thing to do to a nice beer! Especially since you guys have much better beer than what we have over here! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif You are absolutely right. I confes I spilled alcohol and I am very ashamed of it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I hope you can find it in your hart to forgiv me.

quasimodo_3
08-04-2006, 11:44 PM
Spent FB and AEP with a Thrustmaster until it fouled up (probably why they were discontinued - I went through three of them in 2 years). It was the first stick I had and it had a compact and tight feel, used a quite bit of exertion and after a few hours the FF smelled like an electrical fire and if that wasn't enough, carpal tunnel was setting in. After it started failing I got an X-52 and tried to set it up on a base to emulate the one-peice Thrustmaster HOTAS I had gotten so used to. The X-52 is a bigger stick by far, but it's buttons and programmability make it the best one you can get for the money without spending too much. I had to relearn all over again how to avoid snap-rolling into an out of control spin. I've set the dead-zone to pretty much the most responsive settings for the amount of stick movement because that's what I had gotten out of the Thrustmaster and it does feel more realistic than the Thrustmaster. It looks pretty wild with the ice-blue LEDs all over the place, too.