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Ace_Eloff
05-31-2005, 12:26 AM
Is this expansion any good? I just heard of it, and I see that all it adds is missions, but does anyone know how these missions measure against the stock Pacific Fighters Campaigns? Are they much better, worse, a little better, or more or less the same? Thanks.

Aimosika
05-31-2005, 01:20 AM
If you have merged install of FB-AEP-PF those campaigns wont work. Only fun are those MP coop missions which do work. And the development team wont even answer.

So this addon is complete waste of money.

JunkoIfurita
05-31-2005, 01:35 AM
I don't have Banzai, but it's an X1 software product, right?

I don't know about Matrix (their distributor), but the other two packs I picked up from X1 - The Last Days and Das Fall Blau - were quite good. They are a German company, so sometimes their translations fall short, but apart from that I found most of their missions interesting and their templates for the DGen campaigns in TLD, though extremely processor intensive, had a LOT of work put into them.

The main reason I haven't picked up Banzai yet is that it looks a little small. Only 300 missions in total compared to 1600 approx in TLD and 1000+ in Fall Blau. Also not much in the way of co-op, which I prefer over anything else.

If it has problems with the merged install, then it might be worth waiting a bit over, but as it's just a missions pack I find in interesting that it could be compatible with PF but not with merged - the other way round could be a problem, sure, but why this way?

@Aimosika: Matrix games is just the distributor - if you're having some problems, go directly to X1 Software's forums and post. I haven't seen a lot of posts on X1s forum, but every time someone does the developers answer and are helpful straight away (barring the language barrier). Don't be so quick to write things off.

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Actually, if there's anyone from X1 hanging around the forums, I have a question myself. I see the occasional 'development update' over at AirWarfare about The Last Days version 1.07, in development. As far as I know the version I grabbed from Matrix games was 1.00 - is there an incoming patch or was something already released? Just curious because those screenshots of the Meditteranean city looked REALLY good.

Soon I'll have a systems upgrade so I can run TLD missions without any frame rate drag ^_^ Not complaining, any map with so much added to it is going to be processor hungry, and those templates are visually stunning.

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Feathered_IV
05-31-2005, 02:53 AM
Thats a little tree isn't it?



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Aces_High_2
05-31-2005, 03:08 AM
Yes mate,

Add the line

"MiniatureTrees=1" to your conf.ini
helps with frame rate issues http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Cheers

Aces

JunkoIfurita
05-31-2005, 04:02 AM
Dear Aces,

I tried the tweak as you suggested and it didn't do a lot for my frame rate, in fact it killed it entirely.

Every time I fly over Okinawa I have these incredibly patient, elderly japanese men sitting in all the fields and villages, patiently chopping away at their miniature trees.

I mean it's beautiful and all (I haven't had the heart to strafe them), but honestly where does the eye candy end?

Geez, this is worse than the SharkAttack=1 easter egg that I found out about last year!

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Aces_High_2
05-31-2005, 05:33 AM
Hi JunkoIfurita,

Sorry mate, my mistake, the information I gave was less than complete. I should have mentioned that you should also add the "NoJapaneseSeniorCitizens=1" line as the game defaults to "0" or "on".

So just to clarify things it's

"MiniatureTrees=1"
"NoJapaneseSeniorCitizens=1"

This would explain your problems http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bonzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Cheers

Aces

HARD_Sarge
05-31-2005, 05:47 AM
Well
back to the start of the post http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

well really, more of the middle of the post

while all 3 may be by X1, they are not by the same people

over all, I not too impressed with Banzai, so can not tell anybody that they should try it out,

DON'T like the idea of the Zero campaign being listed under the IJA (if that shows the level of reseach done in the game, it worries me about what else may be in it)

TLDs on the hand is very good and I would tell people to give it a try

(IN FACT, if you want to give a Add on a try and not sure which one, give TLDs a try)

the Patch is in beta still, but I believe from SimHQ forum, there should be a link/email address to ask for the puplic release verison of the beta

HARD_Sarge

Saunders1953
05-31-2005, 07:22 AM
Hi, I bought the download version and had trouble installing it, and I want to thank Hard_Sarge here for his help in trying to figure the problem out. I went to the X1 community support/help forum, and I think there were three of us having problems getting the campaigns to show in the game. We all had the merged install and patched up to 3.04m. I don't really know what happened the first time I tried to install it, but I unistalled it(eventually after trying several other things), and taking Plumps advice from an earlier posting in this forum, reinstalled it attempting to redirect the path to my game c\programfiles\ubisoft etc....., (otherwise it defaults the install to its own folder c\matrixgames). I say "attemting", because the reinstall didn't work, but I was too tired and didn't notice that I redirected the install path to another ubisoft directory--I wonder if Zeroes will start escorting my Type VII to Scapa Flow? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Finally, I reinstalled a 3rd time (yesterday, Hard_Sarge, but didn't get around to posting this on X1 yet) to the correct directory and bingo, everything is fine. So, I have to chalk that one up to "User error" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

As for the game itself, HS is correct, you have to wonder when the Zero campaign is under the JAAF and not JNAF. Also, during the download, the pop up screens (I forget what they are called) spell it "Banazai."

I went into the FMB and tried out a few missions. Both the US and Japanese Guadalcanal campaigns take place mostly from carriers, centering around the early US landings and stopping convoys, etc. Your carrier is often in Iron Bottom Sound itself, not in the ocean proper. So it doesn't appear to be too wedded to history. The Port Moresby campaign looks to be interesting. But I'm using it to steal missions from for modification with my own twists--to cut down on mission building time having the ships in place, airdromes (at least partly) populated, etc.

I think Bird_Brains' soon-to-be-finished Guadalcanal campaign will far and away take pride of place/best in show over this add-on for that campaign. You heard it here first! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ColoradoBBQ
05-31-2005, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by HARD_Sarge:
DON'T like the idea of the Zero campaign being listed under the IJA (if that shows the level of reseach done in the game, it worries me about what else may be in it)

HARD_Sarge

The IJA did use the A6M5c.

EDIT: Cannot find rescource, I could be wrong. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Ace_Eloff
05-31-2005, 09:51 AM
Thanks for the heads up.

HARD_Sarge
05-31-2005, 10:42 AM
Hi ColoradoBBQ

not to doubt you, but you got some info on that ?

seeing that the Zeroes were Naval planes and the IJA didn't fly Naval planes

don't forget, the IJN also had landbased squadrons like the US did

but I got a open mind, if you got some info to share, would be happy to read it

Saudners

Kewl, glad it worked, strange the default didn't go to the right place, but I have seen some Patches do that too

HARD_Sarge

LeadSpitter_
05-31-2005, 03:02 PM
Banzai addon by matrix games didnt impress me at all either, 300 user made missions i have only tried about 50 out and seems like nothing we dont have in pf already but saves time in fmb making coops with 3-4 way points and some ground objects adding to better looking runways.

theres no skins either in banzai either just missions.

like every other missions addon its complete garbage to me no offense for those who took the time to hand make the missions, i know it takes a very long time but should be noway near the friggen price of the game it self. And the file size excuse does not work for me, these should be added to the community il2 sites and available for all.

So far the only worth it i seen is starshoys Battle over europe which has problems itself and most missions are just generated ones. But sootys skins are excellent quality which make BOE the only half way descent one out of all the 14 addons.

I dunno these people are just out to rip off others in my opinion. Something that should definatly be free and in a gallery of user made missions free for all il2 players, same with campaigns etc it really does not take much work at all but a little research and time. Most historical missions we cant make anyways becuase of il2s small square maps and a limited ground item view distance of 1000m does not help much at all with ground attack.

This game engine is more suited for a helicopter sim low alt only.

Everyone has thier own opinion and thats mine banzai is not worth 2 dollars. Get into fmb and make some quick missions yourself its really simple and upload them to netwings.org and other great sites such as http://www.airwarfare.com

Like most sturmovik customers many are still angry at the lamest ridiculous thing ubi 1cmaddox games and it is thier fault fully for allowing these addons to be sold to make a few bucks off them and the mission makers dont get much and did all the work.

Its the worst change the missions being cached and and unuseable missions cache folder. You got to admit the cfs community contributes so many great things for the love of the game the il2 crowd is all about ripping people off and trying to snag a buck from olegs creation.

So thank extreme one and others for thier free campaigns and sites like netwings and airwarfare while they are still around.

agarofa
05-31-2005, 03:58 PM
I bought 'Banzai' a couple of weeks ago and it works fine with my (FB/AEP/PF) v3.04m install. I've played 56 of the 90 missions for the RAAF but my first impressions are that it doesn't match the quality of the earlier excellent 'Case Blue' add-on. Some of the tracks are particularly disappointing for a commercial package. I think it was initially intended to include some spitfire missions in the RAAF campaign but these have been replaced by the P39, although in places the mission briefings and the tracks still refer to the spitfire! I don't won't to judge too harshly but it looks to me so far that this package has been rushed so that it would be the 1st on the market.


The cornered wolf fights the hardest

JunkoIfurita
05-31-2005, 05:21 PM
Well, it seems we have a concensus that Banzai is pretty much a no-go. I kinda had that feeling already (which is why I hadn't got it yet), but it was good to hear a few different people sing out.

Leadspitter, fair enough you have your opinion and it's as good as any. And the work of the community mission builders is excellent: but I'm sure if any of those guys had the time and the inclination, they wouldn't mind making a few bucks out of their hard work as well. Personally, I think if Bird_Brain or Extreme_One put their minds to a commercial 300+ static campaign package, then it'd be something pretty cool indeed, and even you'd pick up a copy. But so far they haven't, so I'm happy with Fall Blau - because I certainly haven't the patience yet to put together 300-500 inter-related co-ops.



@Aces_High: Thanks for the heads up mate, my frame rate is back to a pleasant 30-something. Mind you, I did get a very polite letter from the Okinawan People's council to the measure of
'Here in Okinawa we consider our wise elderly to be one of our greatest assets. We find it most disturbing that you would wish to wipe them all out. Please to be sitting down on a rather long sword. Regards, the people of Okinawa.'

AVG_WarHawk
05-31-2005, 05:48 PM
Sorry to hear it's so disappointing, I've spent too many hours in FMB just to create a dozen missions and only acouple of those I consider worthy of greatness. Really makes you appreciate the hard work of the IL-2 mission building and plane skinning community http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

DDastardlySID
05-31-2005, 06:17 PM
I think ppl are maybe being a bit too hard on this expansion, I'm about 15 missions in to 3 different campaigns (RAAF, US & Japanese) and I'm enjoying them all so far. Sure, not every mission is a classic and some have rather excessive flying times before any action kicks off, but on the whole I think it's well worth the asking price for such a large number of missions (which would have taken ages to make yourself). If you're expecting it to revolutionise your copy of PF then you'll be disappointed, but if you just want a stack of decent missions for a reasonably small outlay then I think it's well worth grabbing a copy.

Having said that, I agree it could use a little more polish - as someone already mentioned the tracks aren't too great (lot's of crazy camera zooming). Also, when you go to play a single mission as opposed to a campaign you'll see that none of the Banzai ones have names or descriptions, just numbers which is pretty weak imo.
Cheers,
DD

PS I installed it into a merged FB/AEP/PF with no probs

marcocomparato
05-31-2005, 07:44 PM
Ive owned Banzai, TheLastDays , and BattleOverEurope.

BOE and TLD both have Dynamic campaigns. meaning they are different everytime u fly them. BOE is good, but TLD is even better (as it should be. its newer. BOE was mind-blowing for its FB time)

in TLD you get the Dynamic campaigns set in the most lushly populated maps ever. (good for those of us with hi-end 64bit cpus and 6800Ultras) theyre just awesome. and the missions are rich and never buggy (but you MUST get their update patch. its essential and comes with the proper DCG.exe file)

TLD and BOE are really worth the cash. ive enjoyed them for hundreds of hours offline for aiming practice before i go online.

Banzai has alot of issues as discussed above. it was rushed and hacked and its all static campaigns which anyone can do (dynamic not so easy) and no skins

TLD and BOE are worth it just for the skins which are really high quality. even the nose markings are done. everything authentic. its the IL2 that Oleg would have made if he were a Single-Player game designer.

Banzai not worth it im afraid.

han freak solo
05-31-2005, 07:55 PM
I guess it'll be worth the wait to see how Wings Over Waves and Wings Over Jungles from PlusWave Expansions turns out.

http://www.pluswave.de/html/pwx_english.html

I'll have to get a better computer to be able to make use of all those ground objects, though.

Feathered_IV
06-01-2005, 05:05 AM
Its a shame really. The Japanese side of Pacific Fighters really needs fleshing out more.


Its not all bad though. Aces, I tried your config entry and the little trees are lovely!

One thing though. When I set up a mission in FMB I noticed all my little Ninjas (AllowTinyNinjas = 1) had dissapeared http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif.
Dissapointed I set up a few static cameras and ran the mission again. It was then I realised what had happened http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif. The tiny ninjas were now hiding in the trees!

The realism of this game never ceases to amaze me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif.

JunkoIfurita
06-01-2005, 07:47 AM
My allowPiratesMeHearties=1 could kick the butt of your AllowTinyNinjas=1 anyday.

It's all about flamboyance http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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NAFP_supah
06-01-2005, 07:53 AM
Unless it comes with new planes or maps I have no use for any addon for PF.

Aces_High_2
06-01-2005, 12:30 PM
LOL guys,

"AgentOrange=1" will sort them out Feathered m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Cheers

Aces

JunkoIfurita
06-01-2005, 07:29 PM
Aww, nuts!

AgentOrange=1 dissolved all the little trees!

Now I'm back to square one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

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Feathered_IV
06-02-2005, 07:29 AM
JunkoIfurita Posted Wed June 01 2005 06:47
My allowPiratesMeHearties=1 could kick the butt of your AllowTinyNinjas=1 anyday.

It's all about flamboyance


No way! Without patches your pirates just look like a puffy-shirted New Romantic '80s pop band.

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JunkoIfurita
06-03-2005, 04:10 AM
That's the best patch tie-in I've heard all week http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Bravo sir! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

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Feathered_IV
06-03-2005, 05:24 AM
*Blushes*

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http://www.edshawentertainment.com/artists3/adamant/images/adam_small.jpg

sammy4657
06-03-2005, 06:20 AM
Hmmmmm.... X1 sounds suspicously like 1c to me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Aero_Shodanjo
06-03-2005, 07:08 AM
The bonsais in game are overmodelled. These are what they should look like http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
http://www.fake.com/images/bonsai-trees.jpg

JunkoIfurita
06-03-2005, 08:09 AM
http://www.centrespin.com/files/adam_yarrl.jpg

There we go, all patched up and ready to go. And check out the new 'bird' that came with. Pretty colourful, but does she handle well?

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