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Waldo.Pepper
01-02-2007, 10:30 PM
If I remember correctly many planes of the era have the feature to lock tailwheel if the real pilot in a real plane pulls back the stick all the way. This engages the lock tail wheel. Repeating it will unlock the tail wheel.

This can be done in game of course. Here's how.

In the game set lock tail wheel to something like a T key press.

Next with the Saitek product open up the profiling software and treat the axis like "bands" using the software. I broke mine up into many bands. I made mine into ten bands of 10% each I wanted the full pull back to be small at only 10%. I could have made two bands, one at 10% and the other at 90%. But personally I find it easier to make ten bands then have them spaced evenly to get the one I want at 10%. I will likely modify this to the last 5% or perhaps even less. After a few days dicking around with it I changed it (easily) to the last 2%).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/X-45%20Products/tailwhheel2.jpg

At first I just Clicked on the bottom one and assign it to produce a key press of T. But what this does is to make it too sensitive, and what in effect this does is to produce a series of T's that in the game will alternatively lock and unlock the tailwheel if you happen to be a little to careless and hold the stick back all the way.

So not liking this, I changed it to an advanced command with the following properties.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/X-45%20Products/tailwheel.jpg

That's all there is to it. If you do it right the pull back of the stick will alternately lock/unlock the tailwheel.

It's kind of stupid but I like it.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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TC_Stele
01-03-2007, 11:15 AM
That is really cool! I didn't know they locked their tail wheel like that, but I'll program mine now. Thanks for sharing.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bearcat99
01-03-2007, 02:18 PM
Yeah when I was reading the P-51 manual I was going to try that but I use a MSFFB2 as my main stick so it wouldnt work for me... That is o e thing I really like about the Saiteks.. that SW is great.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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flox
01-03-2007, 05:24 PM
That's pretty cool. Maybe I'll try it out with my x45. Right now I just have one of the hat switches in mode 2 assigned to this.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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BrotherVoodoo
01-03-2007, 06:37 PM
Great work sir! I saw this in a doqumenetary(pre-content filtered, lol) I was watching over the weekend. I am programming that up as we speak, thanks for the excellent idea!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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triggerhappyfin
01-04-2007, 09:19 AM
Apply the idea on the throttle and program the W key on the end of throttle movement http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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MrQBerrt
01-04-2007, 10:08 AM
I do the same thing with the slider on the throttle, which I have mapped to wheel brakes. If I slide it all the way up to the last 4%, it toggles dive brakes, which comes in very handy to have mapped when I get stuck nose down in the P-38.

I didn't think of this one though, I think I'll map it when I get home.

*EDIT* Another good one I have is toggling auto prop pitch on/off at the bottom of my prop-pitch rotary. This is nice for planes like the FW-190.

BTW, this brings up the interesting situation where it would be nice to have non toggling keys for certain situations. For example, I'd like the divebrake always to be on when I have the slider at max, and always be off otherwise. There's some hacks to occomplish this, but the best way would be to have seperate commands for on and off. Same thing can be said for gear up and gear down.

MrMojok
01-04-2007, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by MrQBerrt:
I do the same thing with the slider on the throttle, which I have mapped to wheel brakes. If I slide it all the way up to the last 4%, it toggles dive brakes, which comes in very handy to have mapped when I get stuck nose down in the P-38.


Absolutely brilliant! I cannot believe I never thought of that before!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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triggerhappyfin
01-04-2007, 02:01 PM
Dont seem to work w X-45 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Waldo.Pepper
01-04-2007, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by triggerhappyfin:
Dont seem to work w X-45 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Sure it does!

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RedDeth
01-04-2007, 03:32 PM
or just map a button any button to lock tailwheel. i have it on my saitek mousepad which comes with the saitek keyboard. both are blue backlit and match the x52.


just lock the tailwheel on approach and your all good with one less thing to think about<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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triggerhappyfin
01-04-2007, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by triggerhappyfin:
Dont seem to work w X-45 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Sure it does!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/X-45%20Products/45.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


So far so god...but it wont give any key commands just axis....go figure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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KaleunFreddie
01-04-2007, 05:14 PM
Hit the throttle, full rudder, cut throttle and brakes.... no problem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Waldo.Pepper
01-04-2007, 05:41 PM
So far so god...but it wont give any key commands just axis....go figure

That's cause you don't know what you are doing, yet! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif But you will!

You are doing it wrong.

First break up the axis/rotary etc nito bands.

http://www.saitek.com/manuals/SST%20Manual.htm#_Axis_Pr...(Rotaries,_thumb%20w (http://www.saitek.com/manuals/SST%20Manual.htm#_Axis_Programming_(Rotaries,_thum b%20w)

Then set up the fraction of it as an advanced command. Here -

http://www.saitek.com/manuals/SST%20Manual.htm#_Advanced_Commands

The index to the manual is here.


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