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dex3108
08-19-2011, 06:46 AM
After watching uncompressed trailer i have noticed few things that you guys at Montreal need to fix.

Bad textures:

http://i.imgur.com/gXmdil.jpg (http://imgur.com/gXmdi)
http://i.imgur.com/4ti5kl.jpg (http://imgur.com/4ti5k)
http://i.imgur.com/zcVTvl.jpg (http://imgur.com/zcVTv)
http://i.imgur.com/lk20jl.jpg (http://imgur.com/lk20j)
http://i.imgur.com/Wdcb0l.jpg (http://imgur.com/Wdcb0)
http://i.imgur.com/tTbJcl.jpg (http://imgur.com/tTbJc)
http://i.imgur.com/Nc4kRl.jpg (http://imgur.com/Nc4kR)
http://i.imgur.com/EvmRel.jpg (http://imgur.com/EvmRe)
http://i.imgur.com/5DV7Jl.jpg (http://imgur.com/5DV7J)
http://i.imgur.com/ql9gHl.jpg (http://imgur.com/ql9gH)
http://i.imgur.com/pg8EWl.jpg (http://imgur.com/pg8EW)

You obviously can make good textures because there is places with very good textures like this:

http://i.imgur.com/wu3yzl.jpg (http://imgur.com/wu3yz)
http://i.imgur.com/acPAGl.jpg (http://imgur.com/acPAG)
http://i.imgur.com/xKYYJl.jpg (http://imgur.com/xKYYJ)

And this is some fixes regarding characters:

This is not how Altair kills people this is Ezio style, Altair doesn't have finger and hee kills with fist closed.

http://i.imgur.com/RzWSgl.jpg (http://imgur.com/RzWSg)

Altair doesn't have all fingers.

http://i.imgur.com/aACTel.jpg (http://imgur.com/aACTe)

And if this person represents Desmond, Desmond have scar on lips. *and it doesn't look like Desmond)

http://i.imgur.com/jsxe2l.jpg (http://imgur.com/jsxe2)

LightRey
08-19-2011, 06:58 AM
I'm not even going to grant this a serious response.

Sevenofnine-st
08-19-2011, 07:05 AM
It just blows my mind to see how some people love to nitpick about things like that... *faceplam*. Just be thankful we're getting a great new game only one year apart from Brotherhood.

roostersrule2
08-19-2011, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by woodexx:
After watching uncompressed trailer i have noticed few things that you guys at Montreal need to fix.

Bad textures:

http://i.imgur.com/gXmdil.jpg (http://imgur.com/gXmdi)
http://i.imgur.com/4ti5kl.jpg (http://imgur.com/4ti5k)
http://i.imgur.com/zcVTvl.jpg (http://imgur.com/zcVTv)
http://i.imgur.com/lk20jl.jpg (http://imgur.com/lk20j)
http://i.imgur.com/Wdcb0l.jpg (http://imgur.com/Wdcb0)
http://i.imgur.com/tTbJcl.jpg (http://imgur.com/tTbJc)
http://i.imgur.com/Nc4kRl.jpg (http://imgur.com/Nc4kR)
http://i.imgur.com/EvmRel.jpg (http://imgur.com/EvmRe)
http://i.imgur.com/5DV7Jl.jpg (http://imgur.com/5DV7J)
http://i.imgur.com/ql9gHl.jpg (http://imgur.com/ql9gH)
http://i.imgur.com/pg8EWl.jpg (http://imgur.com/pg8EW)

You obviously can make good textures because there is places with very good textures like this:

http://i.imgur.com/wu3yzl.jpg (http://imgur.com/wu3yz)
http://i.imgur.com/acPAGl.jpg (http://imgur.com/acPAG)
http://i.imgur.com/xKYYJl.jpg (http://imgur.com/xKYYJ)

And this is some fixes regarding characters:

This is not how Altair kills people this is Ezio style, Altair doesn't have finger and hee kills with fist closed.

http://i.imgur.com/RzWSgl.jpg (http://imgur.com/RzWSg)

Altair doesn't have all fingers.

http://i.imgur.com/aACTel.jpg (http://imgur.com/aACTe)

And if this person represents Desmond, Desmond have scar on lips. *and it doesn't look like Desmond)

http://i.imgur.com/jsxe2l.jpg (http://imgur.com/jsxe2) how dare altair open his hand

dex3108
08-19-2011, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Sevenofnine-st:
It just blows my mind to see how some people love to nitpick about things like that... *faceplam*. Just be thankful we're getting a great new game only one year apart from Brotherhood.

It is my professional deformation to blame because i see details like this. It is my job in real life to take care about details in my line of work. This things are not require big amount of time but those details are giving game better look and quality. And i am ready to wait 2-3 years between games if that mean that i will get product that speak it self about time and effort putted in in final product.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by woodexx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sevenofnine-st:
It just blows my mind to see how some people love to nitpick about things like that... *faceplam*. Just be thankful we're getting a great new game only one year apart from Brotherhood.

It is my professional deformation to blame because i see details like this. It is my job in real life to take care about details in my line of work. This things are not require big amount of time but those details are giving game better look and quality. And i am ready to wait 2-3 years between games if that mean that i will get product that speak it self about time and effort putted in in final product. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You do realize that everything you've said is either ridiculous, wrong or something that's obviously not yet worked out because it's a damn demo, right?
Oh, and btw, you're not a professional, so you don't have a professional opinion either.

dex3108
08-19-2011, 07:36 AM
First of all last 7 years i have looking in CG shots and animations because that is my job to make things look good in CG, so yes i have right too tell them to look those things and if they can/want make it better. Second thing demo for game conventions like E3 and Gamescom need to be mad as much representative as they can to attract customers and collect prizes. So demo needs to be closer as possible to final product. Third ting Ubisoft is telling that they can't work on consoles because they are limited and this things that i showed cane be improved on consoles. That mean that they don't use full power of hardware. I never told that i am not satisfied with current build and how it looks like i just mentioned this things because they are easy to miss because there is huge amount of work on such big game.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by woodexx:
First of all last 7 years i have looking in CG shots and animations because that is my job to make things look good in CG, so yes i have right too tell them to look those things and if they can/want make it better. Second thing demo for game conventions like E3 and Gamescom need to be mad as much representative as they can to attract customers and collect prizes. So demo needs to be closer as possible to final product. Third ting Ubisoft is telling that they can't work on consoles because they are limited and this things that i showed cane be improved on consoles. That mean that they don't use full power of hardware. I never told that i am not satisfied with current build and how it looks like i just mentioned this things because they are easy to miss because there is huge amount of work on such big game.
That still leaves the ridiculous, the wrong and the last thing is then simply changed into stating the obvious.
Also, you should learn about audiences. The general gamer audience isn't going to notice/care about the limited detail of certain things that only flash by.

Jexx21
08-19-2011, 07:50 AM
I was actually noticing the bad textures all the time. It seems like that the graphical quality of the game dramatically dropped from E3 to gamescom in my eyes, which is confusing.

I might be more used to better graphics from playing all my games on the PC however, and since ACB had a larger focus on the PC version than the previous two, I can only hope that ACR turns out just a good in the PC development. This is also pretty much the only reason that I'm not making a topic complaining about how ACR's graphics are worse than Brotherhood's. Anyway, I agree with wood, they should fix this stuff if they can, PC, console, or otherwise.

Drakonous505
08-19-2011, 07:52 AM
I agree with Altair's hand that seems like something that should be fixed
As for everything else the game is still less then two months away... They still have plenty of time to clean up graphics.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
I was actually noticing the bad textures all the time. It seems like that the graphical quality of the game dramatically dropped from E3 to gamescom in my eyes, which is confusing.

I might be more used to better graphics from playing all my games on the PC however, and since ACB had a larger focus on the PC version than the previous two, I can only hope that ACR turns out just a good in the PC development. This is also pretty much the only reason that I'm not making a topic complaining about how ACR's graphics are worse than Brotherhood's. Anyway, I agree with wood, they should fix this stuff if they can, PC, console, or otherwise.
That's mostly the quality of the video. If you pay close attention you'll see that the game itself has great video quality. It's mostly the textures themselves that lack detail simply because they don't want to leave the detailed versions out/they aren't finished yet.

Jexx21
08-19-2011, 08:01 AM
In all honesty, I only noticed these kind of problems in the recent videos. So I'm thinking that it's some sort of deal with the gamescom footage.

I always thought that the actual game would look far better, and some recent screenshots I saw confirmed that in my eyes.

Can't wait for ACR.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
In all honesty, I only noticed these kind of problems in the recent videos. So I'm thinking that it's some sort of deal with the gamescom footage.

I always thought that the actual game would look far better, and some recent screenshots I saw confirmed that in my eyes.

Can't wait for ACR.
I could notice the actual quality of the game best when I looked at the destination marker in the demo.

medcsu11
08-19-2011, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by woodexx:
First of all last 7 years i have looking in CG shots and animations because that is my job to make things look good in CG, so yes i have right too tell them to look those things and if they can/want make it better. Second thing demo for game conventions like E3 and Gamescom need to be mad as much representative as they can to attract customers and collect prizes. So demo needs to be closer as possible to final product. Third ting Ubisoft is telling that they can't work on consoles because they are limited and this things that i showed cane be improved on consoles. That mean that they don't use full power of hardware. I never told that i am not satisfied with current build and how it looks like i just mentioned this things because they are easy to miss because there is huge amount of work on such big game.

I call BS. Since you are so proud of what you "CLAIM" to do, might as well complete the circle and "CLAIM" where you work on CG besides the attic of your boyfriends house.

Jexx21
08-19-2011, 08:19 AM
Also, technically you agree (or should be by the way your posts are worded) that these things should be fixed and improved by saying that they either are or will be.

I just had to say that because I didn't really like your attitude with the guy, it's sort of the way how FYTJ was with you. Assuming and thinking your right.

FYTJ assumed that you knew nothing about Italian culture and just thought you were assuming what was in the game was right.

You assumed that he really wasn't a professional at noticing errors in CG or something, and that he was just an enraged fan.

And regardless of general audiences, stuff like this should be fixed seeing as they are some of the texture's you'll be seeing a lot. Sorry if I came off as condescending or rude here.

Jexx21
08-19-2011, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by medcsu11:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by woodexx:
First of all last 7 years i have looking in CG shots and animations because that is my job to make things look good in CG, so yes i have right too tell them to look those things and if they can/want make it better. Second thing demo for game conventions like E3 and Gamescom need to be mad as much representative as they can to attract customers and collect prizes. So demo needs to be closer as possible to final product. Third ting Ubisoft is telling that they can't work on consoles because they are limited and this things that i showed cane be improved on consoles. That mean that they don't use full power of hardware. I never told that i am not satisfied with current build and how it looks like i just mentioned this things because they are easy to miss because there is huge amount of work on such big game.

I call BS. Since you are so proud of what you "CLAIM" to do, might as well complete the circle and "CLAIM" where you work on CG besides the attic of your boyfriends house. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ooh, nice one. Trying to insult his sexuality. You get big points for that one. Unfortunately for you, those go into the butt-hole category (I can't say what I really want to).

medcsu11
08-19-2011, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by medcsu11:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by woodexx:
First of all last 7 years i have looking in CG shots and animations because that is my job to make things look good in CG, so yes i have right too tell them to look those things and if they can/want make it better. Second thing demo for game conventions like E3 and Gamescom need to be mad as much representative as they can to attract customers and collect prizes. So demo needs to be closer as possible to final product. Third ting Ubisoft is telling that they can't work on consoles because they are limited and this things that i showed cane be improved on consoles. That mean that they don't use full power of hardware. I never told that i am not satisfied with current build and how it looks like i just mentioned this things because they are easy to miss because there is huge amount of work on such big game.

I call BS. Since you are so proud of what you "CLAIM" to do, might as well complete the circle and "CLAIM" where you work on CG besides the attic of your boyfriends house. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ooh, nice one. Trying to insult his sexuality. You get big points for that one. Unfortunately for you, those go into the butt-hole category (I can't say what I really want to). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No idea what you are babbling about but I will take it as a compliment from a troll.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
Also, technically you agree (or should be by the way your posts are worded) that these things should be fixed and improved by saying that they either are or will be.

I just had to say that because I didn't really like your attitude with the guy, it's sort of the way how FYTJ was with you. Assuming and thinking your right.

FYTJ assumed that you knew nothing about Italian culture and just thought you were assuming what was in the game was right.

You assumed that he really wasn't a professional at noticing errors in CG or something, and that he was just an enraged fan.

And regardless of general audiences, stuff like this should be fixed seeing as they are some of the texture's you'll be seeing a lot. Sorry if I came off as condescending or rude here.
Have you even read the things he stated? Half the time he's drawing conclusions from the graphics that are absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention half his points, which are already ridiculous by themselves, have been addressed in multiple other threads.

GunnarGunderson
08-19-2011, 08:42 AM
the only bad thing about these games is the AI and the (lack of) difficulty

SupremeCaptain
08-19-2011, 08:52 AM
He has a point. Though I couldn't care about the graphics at all. The only thing I hate is the continuity errors.

Poodle_of_Doom
08-19-2011, 09:00 AM
Well,... I hate to through a wrench into the OP's machine, but there are two things I noticed right off the bat. The first Lightrey touched on, it's a demo. Nothings going to be right. The second is that there seems to be a layer of dust, fog, or rain in a majority of those pictures, which could easily explain (to me anyway) why the details are a little low in the background, and on characters.

Next things next, I noticed some of you are talking about Altairs hand. Was it his left or right that was always closed? I thought it was his left,... but honestly don't recall anymore. Either way, I thought about it, and that's not unusual for that hand to be open. I've seen it open in running sequencenes before. If it is his left hand however, I'm sure he grabs people with that hand.

Jexx21
08-19-2011, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jexx21:
Also, technically you agree (or should be by the way your posts are worded) that these things should be fixed and improved by saying that they either are or will be.

I just had to say that because I didn't really like your attitude with the guy, it's sort of the way how FYTJ was with you. Assuming and thinking your right.

FYTJ assumed that you knew nothing about Italian culture and just thought you were assuming what was in the game was right.

You assumed that he really wasn't a professional at noticing errors in CG or something, and that he was just an enraged fan.

And regardless of general audiences, stuff like this should be fixed seeing as they are some of the texture's you'll be seeing a lot. Sorry if I came off as condescending or rude here.
Have you even read the things he stated? Half the time he's drawing conclusions from the graphics that are absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention half his points, which are already ridiculous by themselves, have been addressed in multiple other threads. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

..he didn't state anything. He showed the bad textures. They're bad. The only other thing he showed was Altiar stabbing with an open hand and a pic with all his fingers. He didn't kill like that and he did have a missing finger.

So, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Jexx21
08-19-2011, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
Well,... I hate to through a wrench into the OP's machine, but there are two things I noticed right off the bat. The first Lightrey touched on, it's a demo. Nothings going to be right. The second is that there seems to be a layer of dust, fog, or rain in a majority of those pictures, which could easily explain (to me anyway) why the details are a little low in the background, and on characters.

Next things next, I noticed some of you are talking about Altairs hand. Was it his left or right that was always closed? I thought it was his left,... but honestly don't recall anymore. Either way, I thought about it, and that's not unusual for that hand to be open. I've seen it open in running sequencenes before. If it is his left hand however, I'm sure he grabs people with that hand.

the hidden blade is on the left wrist, which means that's the one he attacks with the closed fist.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
..he didn't state anything. He showed the bad textures. They're bad. The only other thing he showed was Altiar stabbing with an open hand and a pic with all his fingers. He didn't kill like that and he did have a missing finger.

So, I have no idea what you're talking about.
He did. Almost every picture has a comment of his.

Jexx21
08-19-2011, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jexx21:
..he didn't state anything. He showed the bad textures. They're bad. The only other thing he showed was Altiar stabbing with an open hand and a pic with all his fingers. He didn't kill like that and he did have a missing finger.

So, I have no idea what you're talking about.
He did. Almost every picture has a comment of his. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

17 pictures. 3 had comments besides the general grouping of bad textures and good textures.

So, not almost every. Almost none. lol?

Turkiye96
08-19-2011, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jexx21:
..he didn't state anything. He showed the bad textures. They're bad. The only other thing he showed was Altiar stabbing with an open hand and a pic with all his fingers. He didn't kill like that and he did have a missing finger.

So, I have no idea what you're talking about.
He did. Almost every picture has a comment of his. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

17 pictures. 3 had comments besides the general grouping of bad textures and good textures.

So, not almost every. Almost none. lol? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
i was about to say that too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

LightRey
08-19-2011, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jexx21:
..he didn't state anything. He showed the bad textures. They're bad. The only other thing he showed was Altiar stabbing with an open hand and a pic with all his fingers. He didn't kill like that and he did have a missing finger.

So, I have no idea what you're talking about.
He did. Almost every picture has a comment of his. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

17 pictures. 3 had comments besides the general grouping of bad textures and good textures.

So, not almost every. Almost none. lol? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
yeah, sorry, I was exaggerating there.
However, Alta´r clearly has 4 fingers on his left hand in the pictures, which is how it's supposed to be.
The part about his "style" is ridiculous, I hope I don't have to add anything to that.
The comment on Desmond is stupid. First of all he has a slight beard which is probably (at least partially) covering up his scar.
Second, he most certainly DOES look a lot like Desmond. It really is just the new engine making him seem different. Remember the difference between how Lucy looked in AC1 compared to AC2 and ACB? This is nothing compared to that.
I already explained the part about the textures, and again, these things have been mentioned, discussed, and dealt with in several other threads.

Turkiye96
08-19-2011, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jexx21:
Also, technically you agree (or should be by the way your posts are worded) that these things should be fixed and improved by saying that they either are or will be.

I just had to say that because I didn't really like your attitude with the guy, it's sort of the way how FYTJ was with you. Assuming and thinking your right.

FYTJ assumed that you knew nothing about Italian culture and just thought you were assuming what was in the game was right.

You assumed that he really wasn't a professional at noticing errors in CG or something, and that he was just an enraged fan.

And regardless of general audiences, stuff like this should be fixed seeing as they are some of the texture's you'll be seeing a lot. Sorry if I came off as condescending or rude here.
Have you even read the things he stated? Half the time he's drawing conclusions from the graphics that are absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention half his points, which are already ridiculous by themselves, have been addressed in multiple other threads. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

..he didn't state anything. He showed the bad textures. They're bad. The only other thing he showed was Altiar stabbing with an open hand and a pic with all his fingers. He didn't kill like that and he did have a missing finger.

So, I have no idea what you're talking about. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i would also like to add,
how is it ''absolutely ridiculous''?
i agree some of the textures are even good but they were not up to the standard of the other textures, also how exactly is it ''absolutely ridiculous'' to want a game with better graphics? ( answer: its not)
im not saying these problems are major and will totally ruin the game, im just saying ( and im pretty sure woodex was trying to say aswell) that they should improve it if they want a better game. but the whole altair using Ezio's style of climbing/ fighting is unaccurate and something im pretty sure most fans wouldn't like, however still it wouldn't be a deal breaked, just a nother error which most would want fixed.

so please... how is it ''absolutely ridiculous''?

Dagio12
08-19-2011, 09:26 AM
i just watched a youtube video of assassins creed hidden blade kills.. and every kill that the angle was good enough that I could see, he had an open hand. Also the Assassins Creed trailer shows Altair using an open hand when performing the assassination. The only time Ive seen Altair with a closed hand while his blade was out is in some of the old AC promo pics where he is just kinda chillin.

As far as the trailer.. 90% of the Altair parts show him missing a finger.. with the exception of the ONE that the OP posted... which was probably just an oversite, but for the most part, he is missing his finger.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Turkiye96:
i would also like to add,
how is it ''absolutely ridiculous''?
i agree some of the textures are even good but they were not up to the standard of the other textures, also how exactly is it ''absolutely ridiculous'' to want a game with better graphics? ( answer: its not)
im not saying these problems are major and will totally ruin the game, im just saying ( and im pretty sure woodex was trying to say aswell) that they should improve it if they want a better game. but the whole altair using Ezio's style of climbing/ fighting is unaccurate and something im pretty sure most fans wouldn't like, however still it wouldn't be a deal breaked, just a nother error which most would want fixed.

so please... how is it ''absolutely ridiculous''?
Not what he wants, just the conclusions he makes.

Turkiye96
08-19-2011, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jexx21:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jexx21:
..he didn't state anything. He showed the bad textures. They're bad. The only other thing he showed was Altiar stabbing with an open hand and a pic with all his fingers. He didn't kill like that and he did have a missing finger.

So, I have no idea what you're talking about.
He did. Almost every picture has a comment of his. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

17 pictures. 3 had comments besides the general grouping of bad textures and good textures.

So, not almost every. Almost none. lol? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
yeah, sorry, I was exaggerating there.
However, Alta´r clearly has 4 fingers on his left hand in the pictures, which is how it's supposed to be.
The part about his "style" is ridiculous, I hope I don't have to add anything to that.
The comment on Desmond is stupid. First of all he has a slight beard which is probably (at least partially) covering up his scar.
Second, he most certainly DOES look a lot like Desmond. It really is just the new engine making him seem different. Remember the difference between how Lucy looked in AC1 compared to AC2 and ACB? This is nothing compared to that.
I already explained the part about the textures, and again, these things have been mentioned, discussed, and dealt with in several other threads. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
dude i think your math might be a little off, Altair should have 3 fingers and 1 thumb...
while i agree that is desmond and he does look different, but the fact that he has a bit of stubble should make his scar more obivous just like it did with Ezio... also the fact he has a bit of stubble is coz he cant exactly wake up from the coma to shave and then come back sit down and go back into a coma.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by Turkiye96:
dude i think your math might be a little off, Altair should have 3 fingers and 1 thumb...
while i agree that is desmond and he does look different, but the fact that he has a bit of stubble should make his scar more obivous just like it did with Ezio... also the fact he has a bit of stubble is coz he cant exactly wake up from the coma to shave and then come back sit down and go back into a coma.
A thumb, though often referred to separately, is a finger.

Turkiye96
08-19-2011, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Turkiye96:
i would also like to add,
how is it ''absolutely ridiculous''?
i agree some of the textures are even good but they were not up to the standard of the other textures, also how exactly is it ''absolutely ridiculous'' to want a game with better graphics? ( answer: its not)
im not saying these problems are major and will totally ruin the game, im just saying ( and im pretty sure woodex was trying to say aswell) that they should improve it if they want a better game. but the whole altair using Ezio's style of climbing/ fighting is unaccurate and something im pretty sure most fans wouldn't like, however still it wouldn't be a deal breaked, just a nother error which most would want fixed.

so please... how is it ''absolutely ridiculous''?
Not what he wants, just the conclusions he makes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
and which conclusion would that be? he never made 1 the last thing he said in his thread opening post was that IF it was desmond, they have made the error of not putting his scar in.
he wasn't saying it wasn't desmond...

LightRey
08-19-2011, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by Turkiye96:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Turkiye96:
i would also like to add,
how is it ''absolutely ridiculous''?
i agree some of the textures are even good but they were not up to the standard of the other textures, also how exactly is it ''absolutely ridiculous'' to want a game with better graphics? ( answer: its not)
im not saying these problems are major and will totally ruin the game, im just saying ( and im pretty sure woodex was trying to say aswell) that they should improve it if they want a better game. but the whole altair using Ezio's style of climbing/ fighting is unaccurate and something im pretty sure most fans wouldn't like, however still it wouldn't be a deal breaked, just a nother error which most would want fixed.

so please... how is it ''absolutely ridiculous''?
Not what he wants, just the conclusions he makes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
and which conclusion would that be? he never made 1 the last thing he said in his thread opening post was that IF it was desmond, they have made the error of not putting his scar in.
he wasn't saying it wasn't desmond... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
He suggested that it might not be him, which is enough of a ridiculous conclusion, but beyond that, whatever Alta´r's supposed style is, is a ridiculous assumption/conclusion on his part. Everyone changes their style over time and in this case there's also the fact that it's actually Desmond playing Ezio playing Alta´r, which could easily have an impact on the fighting style.

Turkiye96
08-19-2011, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Turkiye96:
dude i think your math might be a little off, Altair should have 3 fingers and 1 thumb...
while i agree that is desmond and he does look different, but the fact that he has a bit of stubble should make his scar more obivous just like it did with Ezio... also the fact he has a bit of stubble is coz he cant exactly wake up from the coma to shave and then come back sit down and go back into a coma.
A thumb, though often referred to separately, is a finger. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
not to say your wrong but from what i see, you can not see the thumb in the picture due it being behind his body i am saying this because if 1 of those fingers was a thumb it would but much shorted than all the others, if his ring finger was truely cut off, we would see a gap between the fingers (which we see in the pic above where altair is stabind somebody from the back)... which we dont

Jexx21
08-19-2011, 09:45 AM
It's interesting to note that the voice and face of Ezio and Altiar have actually been confirmed to be affected by Desmond's own voice and face. On the Assassin's Creed twitter account.

So that might also effect combat styles if the person has already trained in combat like Ezio, and Desmond took on Ezio's combat style due to living in Ezio's body practically his entire life.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Turkiye96:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Turkiye96:
dude i think your math might be a little off, Altair should have 3 fingers and 1 thumb...
while i agree that is desmond and he does look different, but the fact that he has a bit of stubble should make his scar more obivous just like it did with Ezio... also the fact he has a bit of stubble is coz he cant exactly wake up from the coma to shave and then come back sit down and go back into a coma.
A thumb, though often referred to separately, is a finger. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
not to say your wrong but from what i see, you can not see the thumb in the picture due it being behind his body i am saying this because if 1 of those fingers was a thumb it would but much shorted than all the others, if his ring finger was truely cut off, we would see a gap between the fingers (which we see in the pic above where altair is stabind somebody from the back)... which we dont </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You're assuming all the fingers visible in the picture are on the same side of his hand as the "camera" is. There's also the fact that it's really not clear enough to see which finger in the picture is which.

Turkiye96
08-19-2011, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Turkiye96:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Turkiye96:
i would also like to add,
how is it ''absolutely ridiculous''?
i agree some of the textures are even good but they were not up to the standard of the other textures, also how exactly is it ''absolutely ridiculous'' to want a game with better graphics? ( answer: its not)
im not saying these problems are major and will totally ruin the game, im just saying ( and im pretty sure woodex was trying to say aswell) that they should improve it if they want a better game. but the whole altair using Ezio's style of climbing/ fighting is unaccurate and something im pretty sure most fans wouldn't like, however still it wouldn't be a deal breaked, just a nother error which most would want fixed.

so please... how is it ''absolutely ridiculous''?
Not what he wants, just the conclusions he makes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
and which conclusion would that be? he never made 1 the last thing he said in his thread opening post was that IF it was desmond, they have made the error of not putting his scar in.
he wasn't saying it wasn't desmond... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
He suggested that it might not be him, which is enough of a ridiculous conclusion, but beyond that, whatever Alta´r's supposed style is, is a ridiculous assumption/conclusion on his part. Everyone changes their style over time and in this case there's also the fact that it's actually Desmond playing Ezio playing Alta´r, which could easily have an impact on the fighting style. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
no, he was trying to imply that if it was him, they made the mistake of not putting the cut.
Ezio hadn't changed his style. in 20 years in the first game however i agree with you that could be a possible answer, however, its ridiculous to asume he would some how gain the exactly style and movement Ezio has centuries later. and ezio doesn't play throught the memories like desmond does with Ezio, he just relives them ( as though they have been added to his memories) yet thats still a valid point as Ubisoft might put that in saying that Ezio will remember it differently (in his style) to explain it, however it would make it far fetched in my opinion, it would just be easier to give Altair his normal style than make up the story that the keys are the same as the animus all you have to do is touch it. which from what iv heard in the previews is not the case.

also if u look at the pic with Ezio running left and altair right ( the background is the same so ) all they did was change the skin for Ezio rather than change it to Altair. so that explains it while that was only for the trialer so in not gona worry about that as we see he has 3 fingers and 1 thumb in the actual game.

Turkiye96
08-19-2011, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Turkiye96:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Turkiye96:
dude i think your math might be a little off, Altair should have 3 fingers and 1 thumb...
while i agree that is desmond and he does look different, but the fact that he has a bit of stubble should make his scar more obivous just like it did with Ezio... also the fact he has a bit of stubble is coz he cant exactly wake up from the coma to shave and then come back sit down and go back into a coma.
A thumb, though often referred to separately, is a finger. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
not to say your wrong but from what i see, you can not see the thumb in the picture due it being behind his body i am saying this because if 1 of those fingers was a thumb it would but much shorted than all the others, if his ring finger was truely cut off, we would see a gap between the fingers (which we see in the pic above where altair is stabind somebody from the back)... which we dont </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You're assuming all the fingers visible in the picture are on the same side of his hand as the "camera" is. There's also the fact that it's really not clear enough to see which finger in the picture is which. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
we dont see clearly enough to see it but we can see the length of them seeing how the pinky is the sortest ( and seeing how its on the end and also thin it cant be a thumb) also the point remains that there should be a gap but as i said its in the trailer but not in the actual game so it is an error but we wont play with it so its not important to the game.

Poodle_of_Doom
08-19-2011, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
The second is that there seems to be a layer of dust, fog, or rain in a majority of those pictures, which could easily explain (to me anyway) why the details are a little low in the background, and on characters.

Not to be a nag, but you all seemed to miss right over this little point of mine... Do you all see what I see?

LightRey
08-19-2011, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Turkiye96:
no, he was trying to imply that if it was him, they made the mistake of not putting the cut.
Ezio hadn't changed his style. in 20 years in the first game however i agree with you that could be a possible answer, however, its ridiculous to asume he would some how gain the exactly style and movement Ezio has centuries later. and ezio doesn't play throught the memories like desmond does with Ezio, he just relives them ( as though they have been added to his memories) yet thats still a valid point as Ubisoft might put that in saying that Ezio will remember it differently (in his style) to explain it, however it would make it far fetched in my opinion, it would just be easier to give Altair his normal style than make up the story that the keys are the same as the animus all you have to do is touch it. which from what iv heard in the previews is not the case.

also if u look at the pic with Ezio running left and altair right ( the background is the same so ) all they did was change the skin for Ezio rather than change it to Altair. so that explains it while that was only for the trialer so in not gona worry about that as we see he has 3 fingers and 1 thumb in the actual game.
You don't know if Ezio simply relives the memories instead of playing them. In most interviews it was strongly suggested that he actually plays Alta´r, since they actually say that it's Ezio "playing Alta´r".

As for the last thing, that's another assumption you're making. It could just as easily been his left hand as it's actually supposed to be and since the picture shows 4 fingers, one of which could easily be a thumb, there's no reason to assume that they didn't do his hand right.

However, finally, I would like to say that by far the most annoying part of this thread is the fact that it's about absolutely nothing. We know very well that the developers, wouldn't leave any (supposed) mistakes and LQ textures in the game like that and to accuse them of sucking at making the main character look like the main character is just an insult, let alone wrong.

ProdiGurl
08-19-2011, 10:09 AM
I'm the first one to dislike nit picking in these games - honestly, I think gamers have gotten so spoiled and demand absolute perfection that I almost feel bad for the game creators - they put out a great product and they get nailed by their customers with insults & crap.

With that said, I think before a game is released is the best time to be told about possible issues they can fix in advance. I didn't play AC or ACII so I don't know anything about Altair, but if they're obvious discrepancies that people who know the character will pick up on, it helps to have this pointed out for a fix.

As long as people are giving constructive criticism without attacking & being rude, I think it's helpful before a game release.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Turkiye96:
we dont see clearly enough to see it but we can see the length of them seeing how the pinky is the sortest ( and seeing how its on the end and also thin it cant be a thumb) also the point remains that there should be a gap but as i said its in the trailer but not in the actual game so it is an error but we wont play with it so its not important to the game.
The thumb is generally on the other side of the hand, which means that it can easily both appear longer compared to the other fingers and appear to be between fingers it isn't. Combine that with the fact that the quality of the video (and therefore the pic) is not very good, it's easy to conclude that it's basically impossible to determine whether the ring finger is there or not.


Not to be a nag, but you all seemed to miss right over this little point of mine... Do you all see what I see?
Yes, you were right about the snow. It's most definitely did have an effect on the details of the environment and the snow effect probably wasn't even completely finished yet, which would further downgrade the quality of the imagery.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
I'm the first one to dislike nit picking in these games - honestly, I think gamers have gotten so spoiled and demand absolute perfection that I almost feel bad for the game creators - they put out a great product and they get nailed by their customers with insults & crap.

With that said, I think before a game is released is the best time to be told about possible issues they can fix in advance. I didn't play AC or ACII so I don't know anything about Altair, but if they're obvious discrepancies that people who know the character will pick up on, it helps to have this pointed out for a fix.

As long as people are giving constructive criticism without attacking & being rude, I think it's helpful before a game release.
True, but imo none of the things stated in this thread are near worthy of being seen as such.

ProdiGurl
08-19-2011, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by BradKinn:
the only bad thing about these games is the AI and the (lack of) difficulty

My problem with playing ACB the first time is that the AI was way too difficult. I had suggested in another thread to offer 'normal' & 'professional' skill level choices. . . I'm a mediocre gamer on a first run through and this game gave me nitemares lol.

Not as hard a 2nd time thru, but it's not easy imo.

ShaneO7K
08-19-2011, 10:20 AM
The issues brought up here are nothing really urgent so I doubt anything will be done to change at his point in development.

But one thing that will happen with each and every game is fans will complain for change and once they get it they complain about how bad the developers are for having changed it.

Personally the only thing I really want is to make a slightly noticable difference in Altair and Ezio's fighting styles, not just make Altair into Ezio with one hidden blade.

Altair has always been my favourite character in the AC universe and the tiny changes I've seen so far like the accent change will prove to be better in the end.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BradKinn:
the only bad thing about these games is the AI and the (lack of) difficulty

My problem with playing ACB the first time is that the AI was way too difficult. I had suggested in another thread to offer 'normal' & 'professional' skill level choices. . . I'm a mediocre gamer on a first run through and this game gave me nitemares lol.

Not as hard a 2nd time thru, but it's not easy imo. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, I can understand that. Hardcore gamers often have trouble imagining how hard it is for mediocre gamers. Though the suggestion of difficulty levels could probably solve that issue entirely, though that might not be easy to implement depending on the code.

Jexx21
08-19-2011, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BradKinn:
the only bad thing about these games is the AI and the (lack of) difficulty

My problem with playing ACB the first time is that the AI was way too difficult. I had suggested in another thread to offer 'normal' & 'professional' skill level choices. . . I'm a mediocre gamer on a first run through and this game gave me nitemares lol.

Not as hard a 2nd time thru, but it's not easy imo. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, I can understand that. Hardcore gamers often have trouble imagining how hard it is for mediocre gamers. Though the suggestion of difficulty levels could probably solve that issue entirely, though that might not be easy to implement depending on the code. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't consider myself hardcore, but all the Assassin's Creed games were easy to me. I'm not really skilled with other game types either, so :/

Turkiye96
08-19-2011, 10:27 AM
think what you want but i still think that the trailer has that mistake ( while personally i do think it is definable which finger is which), ( didnt you say that the quality of the video was good before) and i was refering to his further left hand
i still think it would be wrong to give Altair Ezio's movements.
and finally please tell me if im wrong but ''we'' do not all know that the game would never make a single mistake in this huge franchise, iv even heard them say they look of the fan make ac wikia. and wikipedia. and while you may consider a couple of constructive critasizm an insult nobody said they sucked, all i said was that i see a mistake thats all. so think what you want to think but i will see what i see and a do think they could make the game better if they put better textures in, and i dont think its nice to say some simple and understandable ideas like texture improvement should be called ridiculous. he was just nit picking some stuff... just coz his ideas of a better game graphics doesn't match with yours you dont have to go against him

LightRey
08-19-2011, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
I don't consider myself hardcore, but all the Assassin's Creed games were easy to me. I'm not really skilled with other game types either, so :/
This kinda reminds me of when I played Rayman 2 when I was little. I really kinda sucked at it for a long time until I met someone who was actually pretty good at it. After seeing how he was playing the game I quickly became quite adept at playing Rayman 2. The lesson is that it seems to be very dependent on your playing style whether you're good at a certain game.

ProdiGurl
08-19-2011, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
I'm the first one to dislike nit picking in these games - honestly, I think gamers have gotten so spoiled and demand absolute perfection that I almost feel bad for the game creators - they put out a great product and they get nailed by their customers with insults & crap.

With that said, I think before a game is released is the best time to be told about possible issues they can fix in advance. I didn't play AC or ACII so I don't know anything about Altair, but if they're obvious discrepancies that people who know the character will pick up on, it helps to have this pointed out for a fix.

As long as people are giving constructive criticism without attacking & being rude, I think it's helpful before a game release.
True, but imo none of the things stated in this thread are near worthy of being seen as such. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Understandable. That's fair and you're entitled to that opinion. =) I tend to be like you with that too. I'm not picky on graphics at all.
I was gaming early on when gaming was new on PC's. Graphics were basically cartoonish.
If the game was fun, who cared.
In this age of technology tho, I guess alot of people do care.

If he works in CG, I can see why he'd be compelled to mention what he takes an issue with.
I used to do digital graphics, and I couldn't help but spot people's errors or how they could have done something better lol (not that I would let them know that and I know they would do the same with my work) ...

The AC crew will decide (if they read his post) if they want to work on these things or not.
My main issue is people rudely attacking mistakes or things they dislike - positive constructive suggestions on real issues is fine & probly welcomed?

As long as Ezio's alot like he is in ACB (I notice he's in black in those screen shots =D ), I know I'll be a happy camper w/ ACR.
I'll buy it whether it sucks or not lol.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
Understandable. That's fair and you're entitled to that opinion. =) I tend to be like you with that too. I'm not picky on graphics at all.
I was gaming early on when gaming was new on PC's. Graphics were basically cartoonish.
If the game was fun, who cared.
In this age of technology tho, I guess alot of people do care.

If he works in CG, I can see why he'd be compelled to mention what he takes an issue with.
I used to do digital graphics, and I couldn't help but spot people's errors or how they could have done something better lol (not that I would let them know that and I know they would do the same with my work) ...

The AC crew will decide (if they read his post) if they want to work on these things or not.
My main issue is people rudely attacking mistakes or things they dislike - positive constructive suggestions on real issues is fine & probly welcomed?

As long as Ezio's alot like he is in ACB (I notice he's in black in those screen shots =D ), I know I'll be a happy camper w/ ACR.
I'll buy it whether it sucks or not lol.
I completely agree. Though I must say that I do like good graphics and AC has some of the best graphics I've ever seen.


think what you want but i still think that the trailer has that mistake ( while personally i do think it is definable which finger is which), ( didnt you say that the quality of the video was good before) and i was refering to his further left hand
i still think it would be wrong to give Altair Ezio's movements.
and finally please tell me if im wrong but ''we'' do not all know that the game would never make a single mistake in this huge franchise, iv even heard them say they look of the fan make ac wikia. and wikipedia. and while you may consider a couple of constructive critasizm an insult nobody said they sucked, all i said was that i see a mistake thats all. so think what you want to think but i will see what i see and a do think they could make the game better if they put better textures in, and i dont think its nice to say some simple and understandable ideas like texture improvement should be called ridiculous. he was just nit picking some stuff... just coz his ideas of a better game graphics doesn't match with yours you dont have to go against him
I'm not saying that they would never make a mistake, but if they did it'd be far more complicated than what's specified in this thread.
As for the Desmond thing, you get my point. They are basically the ones that decide what Desmond is supposed to look like, and most people here, though they see notable changes like the beard, agree that the guy in the trailer looks more than enough like Desmond to pass for him.

Calvarok
08-19-2011, 11:30 AM
Altair's hands thing is a mistake, and it only happens in that specific part, nowhere else in the vide doe she have all fingers. With regards to textures, the game is still not totally finished, and even if it was, most of the textures you showed are better than most open-world games. Not to mention the video was in 720p instead of 1080

Calvarok
08-19-2011, 11:34 AM
And honestly, these problems have been greatly reduced when it comes to AC1 or even Brotherhood. All the textures are better, the environments and characters more detailed.

They're pretty much done with the graphics, though if last years gamescom is any indicator, it will get a bit better, actually.

ProdiGurl
08-19-2011, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
Understandable. That's fair and you're entitled to that opinion. =) I tend to be like you with that too. I'm not picky on graphics at all.
I was gaming early on when gaming was new on PC's. Graphics were basically cartoonish.
If the game was fun, who cared.
In this age of technology tho, I guess alot of people do care.

If he works in CG, I can see why he'd be compelled to mention what he takes an issue with.
I used to do digital graphics, and I couldn't help but spot people's errors or how they could have done something better lol (not that I would let them know that and I know they would do the same with my work) ...

The AC crew will decide (if they read his post) if they want to work on these things or not.
My main issue is people rudely attacking mistakes or things they dislike - positive constructive suggestions on real issues is fine & probly welcomed?

As long as Ezio's alot like he is in ACB (I notice he's in black in those screen shots =D ), I know I'll be a happy camper w/ ACR.
I'll buy it whether it sucks or not lol.

-Lightray: I completely agree. Though I must say that I do like good graphics and AC has some of the best graphics I've ever seen.[end]

-Prodigurl: I should have been more clear and I typed my reply wrong. I didn't mean to include you as to not caring about graphics, that was supposed to just be how I feel towards them.
I LOVE good graphics, I just meant that graphics don't necessarily ruin a game for me or make me curse the game creators out.

If a game is good enough, that stuff doesn't bother me.

I agree w/ you, the graphics are phenomenal in ACB - I'm loving all the work that went into them. Even the music.

dex3108
08-19-2011, 11:56 AM
First i have NEVER told that Ubisoft Montreal Studio is bad/sucks/doesn't know how to do their job, NEVER. I have huge respect for Ubisoft Montreal because they are creative, smart, good listeners and they know how to work they job.

Second thing me as customer have right to tell what i didn't like and that is with good cause. I am NOT attacking anybody i am just telling my opinion as gamer, customer and person who likes AC Universe.

Third thing is that i have got original video not compressed one and this screenshots are from that video. And video is taken probably directly from engine so it is almost as if i was playing game.

Also about finger it is clear that we see all fingers except thumb so that part is mistake. Another thing about Altair missing finger is why he doesn't have finger? Because when he is accepted in order of Assassins he needed to show commitment to the order by wearing hidden blade that require gap between fingers to work. That is also thing that Da Vinci stated when he was repairing hidden blade.
And about Desmond first it is not beard that is problem, mustaches are problem. As far as i remember in Desmond E3 trailer Desmond doesn't have beard or mustaches and he looks like Desmond from AC:B. Also when you have a scar it is really hard to cover it if it is on hairy part of body, so that little facial hair couldn't hide scar.

ProletariatPleb
08-19-2011, 11:58 AM
About the Alta´r's finger issue...I would say the earlier memories, that is the ones before he became a Master Assassin should have all fingers, as the finger was cut off as an oath of commitment to the order when turning from a Novice into a Master Assassin.

ProdiGurl
08-19-2011, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by sidspyker24:
About the Alta´r's finger issue...I would say the earlier memories, that is the ones before he became a Master Assassin should have all fingers, as the finger was cut off as an oath of commitment to the order when turning from a Novice into a Master Assassin.

? I thought the Assassin ceremony was putting a tattoo/burn mark onto the recruits' finger who level up to Assassin. They cut the finger off there?

Altair661
08-19-2011, 12:27 PM
Im gonna buy Revelations to play it. Not stare at it all day.

ProletariatPleb
08-19-2011, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sidspyker24:
About the Alta´r's finger issue...I would say the earlier memories, that is the ones before he became a Master Assassin should have all fingers, as the finger was cut off as an oath of commitment to the order when turning from a Novice into a Master Assassin.

? I thought the Assassin ceremony was putting a tattoo/burn mark onto the recruits' finger who level up to Assassin. They cut the finger off there? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah, that change was made by Alta´r after he became a Master Assassin, he said that the burn mark was better than amputating a finger as a sign of commitment, before that, the finger was chopped off...in AC2 Leonardo says something like "Though the blade once required the wielder to lose the finger(or something about sacrificing the finger), it has been modified since then, you can keep your finger.." to Ezio when he gets his father's blade repaired.

In Altair's codex, he says that he modified the hidden blade so that the ring finger didn't need to be removed.

Calvarok
08-19-2011, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sidspyker24:
About the Alta´r's finger issue...I would say the earlier memories, that is the ones before he became a Master Assassin should have all fingers, as the finger was cut off as an oath of commitment to the order when turning from a Novice into a Master Assassin.

? I thought the Assassin ceremony was putting a tattoo/burn mark onto the recruits' finger who level up to Assassin. They cut the finger off there? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In Al Mualims time, they cut the finger off. They changed the ceremony to just a burn mark later.

LightRey
08-19-2011, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by woodexx:
First i have NEVER told that Ubisoft Montreal Studio is bad/sucks/doesn't know how to do their job, NEVER. I have huge respect for Ubisoft Montreal because they are creative, smart, good listeners and they know how to work they job.

Second thing me as customer have right to tell what i didn't like and that is with good cause. I am NOT attacking anybody i am just telling my opinion as gamer, customer and person who likes AC Universe.

Third thing is that i have got original video not compressed one and this screenshots are from that video. And video is taken probably directly from engine so it is almost as if i was playing game.

Also about finger it is clear that we see all fingers except thumb so that part is mistake. Another thing about Altair missing finger is why he doesn't have finger? Because when he is accepted in order of Assassins he needed to show commitment to the order by wearing hidden blade that require gap between fingers to work. That is also thing that Da Vinci stated when he was repairing hidden blade.
And about Desmond first it is not beard that is problem, mustaches are problem. As far as i remember in Desmond E3 trailer Desmond doesn't have beard or mustaches and he looks like Desmond from AC:B. Also when you have a scar it is really hard to cover it if it is on hairy part of body, so that little facial hair couldn't hide scar.
-You basically said they didn't make Desmond look like what Desmond looks like, which, btw, is not true. However in doing so you're basically saying you know better what Desmond looks like than the people that came up with his character in the first place.

-I'm fine with your opinion. However, many of these things have already been discussed and dealt with and the rest was just stating things that were in the demo, because it was a demo, making it pointless to say it needs improvement since it was never intended to be part of the end result.

-"probably" is not exactly convincing and tbh when I look at the graphics in your pictures they don't look like they're directly from the engine, too much blur.

-I have explained thoroughly in previous posts why you are wrong on the finger issue.

The worst part of this all is not so much the things you've said, but the fact that you completely ignored the other threads and how most of these things were dealt with in them and instead you, completely ignoring those discussions, started a new thread with this nonsense.

Azula2005
08-19-2011, 01:22 PM
A video only gives you about 60-80% of detail those videos only go up to 720hd but they can be 1080 and we all know that Ps3/Xbox looks better than videos
plus they still got months to fix things up

Icecooli7
08-19-2011, 01:49 PM
I just watched one of the good gameplays for Revelations multiplayer which was being commented on by a game developer and I have several points to make about it.

a) Contested Kills are looking great.
b) Deathmatch looks firstly, difficult, secondly, awesome.
c) Most importantly, I don't know if you guys knew this already but it appears the incognito has been boosted up to +350 points! I thought that was great, but I still think it should be +400 in Wanted-like modes.