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GeneralTrumbo
12-16-2011, 12:17 AM
Playing through multiplayer, eventually you unlock a file titled: File.0.16a\FC_Tech This file, as I believe, may hold the key for Assassins Creed 3. I will explain this below.

File.0.16a\FC_Tech
Those Who Came Before perished long ago, but their technology has survived through the ages. Although extremely rare, these artifacts, which we have dubbed Pieces of Eden, are immensely powerful. In the old days, people believed they were magical in nature. Some even imagined they were of alien origin. We know better.
Pieces of Eden are ancient, yet very advanced technological devices. For centuries, those of our Order toiled to acquire these lost treasures. While the Assassins would have you believe we seek these objects for the sole purpose of controlling humanity, the truth is that Pieces of Eden are not only incredibly useful but they also hold knowledge that could help our cause - and thus humanity.

Perhaps more important than any artifact are the vaults of Those Who Came Before. Each of these vaults is a chamber housing what we assume to be some kind of First Civilization digital archive containing the knowledge of the Ancients. Despite our best efforts, we know the location of only too few of these vaults, and we have yet to understand how to extract the secrets they hold.

Once we understand the knowledge of the Ancients, we will be able to unlock our true potential. We will hold the key to a better future for humanity.


Now, that all being said, what do you guys all think? Here is MY theory. Explained in the text, at each one of these temples, there is a digital archive of knowledge. What if in "Assassins Creed 3", Desmond will be the one going to each of these temples, accessing this knowledge, and with this knowledge, an ancestor to represent each temple? A digital message, if you will, left behind by Those Who Came Before?; an ancestor's life left behind at each temple? Sounds interesting to me. If this means anything, here is some pictures included in this file:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111215120006/assassinscreed/images/thumb/e/ea/Piri_Reis_Europe.jpg/698px-Piri_Reis_Europe.jpg

This here may have been hinting at an ancient map to the vault network, made by Piri Reis of Europe. The subheading below it, titled "Ancient Vault Network?", hints at this.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111209213955/assassinscreed/images/thumb/1/11/Becker-HagenGrid.jpg/640px-Becker-HagenGrid.jpg

This hints at the same sort of thing. It is the Becker-Hagen Grid. I did some research into this and this is related a lot to the "Pythagorean Cosmic Morphology", which the whole Pythagorean thing was hinted at in the past Assassins Creed titles. I don't want to spoil much on all this here, so I will link you to an article based around the "Becker-Hagens Grid". Look for yourself.

Becker-Hagen Grid details (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mapas_ocultotierra/esp_mapa_ocultotierra_12.htm)

To add to all of this, this is where I believe Desmond to be at the moment. I do not think this is the Grand Temple, but I do believe it to be ONE of the temples that will be visited in "Assassins Creed 3". This is most likely one of the digital archives to be found. Most likely, it will be the first to be visited.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liq173BrBv1qgtbj5o1_500.jpg

And to add to the whole Pythagorean theme set in place, here is a picture to take a look at, which includes these coordinates.

http://xboxoz360.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/acbtrianglenotations.jpg


This here is definitely something to take a look at, which links the grid system and Piri Reis' map.

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/theworldgrid.htm

LordWolv
12-16-2011, 12:33 AM
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Oh, wow... All I can say to that is... </pre>
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GeneralTrumbo
12-16-2011, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Isaac500:
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Oh, wow... All I can say to that is... </pre>
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=) Thanks! I worked hard on all this research! And I think the theory is a definite possibility!

GeneralTrumbo
12-16-2011, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Isaac500:
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Oh, wow... All I can say to that is... </pre>
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This is definitely something good, as well, if you want to look more into the theories and some actual evidence of where Piri Reis's map leads.

Piri Reis' map theories (http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm)

GeneralTrumbo
12-16-2011, 01:49 AM
Any more thoughts on all this?

wolfy000
12-16-2011, 04:40 AM
Meh they said in AC 3 a new character would be introduced so i doubt desmond will be the main character, i think it gunna be the same with a new ancestor, and from an anonymous source of ubi (not confirmed) it gunna have the same desmond in the animus stlye game, id say it means something but not wat u described, good work though

Inorganic9_2
12-16-2011, 04:47 AM
Don't that Desmond doesn't need to go to all of the vaults because all the information was transmitted to the Grand Temple anyway...

dxsxhxcx
12-16-2011, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by Inorganic9_2:
Don't that Desmond doesn't need to go to all of the vaults because all the information was transmitted to the Grand Temple anyway...

this, from what I understood, all the information gathered in the other temples can be accessed via the grand temple so there's no reason to visit each temple when you can find all the information in a single one..

LightRey
12-16-2011, 05:26 AM
Interesting theory. However, the information in these archives is very likely pertaining to the separate attempts of TWCB to stop the end of the world.

GeneralTrumbo
12-16-2011, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by BasalCone50181:
Meh they said in AC 3 a new character would be introduced so i doubt desmond will be the main character, i think it gunna be the same with a new ancestor, and from an anonymous source of ubi (not confirmed) it gunna have the same desmond in the animus stlye game, id say it means something but not wat u described, good work though

No, trust me, I think they will work in free-roam of many different periods throughout history, with several different ancestors. Each of these ancestors accessed through a Temple. There is no reason to throw him back in the animus now. By now, Desmond would have mastered the bleeding effect. Therefore, Desmond will now be able to access MANY ancestors by will. This will mean for MANY different places to explore throughout history.

YuurHeen
12-16-2011, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Inorganic9_2:
Don't that Desmond doesn't need to go to all of the vaults because all the information was transmitted to the Grand Temple anyway...

this, from what I understood, all the information gathered in the other temples can be accessed via the grand temple so there's no reason to visit each temple when you can find all the information in a single one.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

maybe the information is given like the animus gives information about ancestors. so there will be a device that will be like a animus and gives memories of people that been to other vaults. and combined he can save the world.

twenty_glyphs
12-16-2011, 10:47 AM
Desmond apparently only needs to visit one temple, and he's already there at the end of Revelations. And I seriously doubt we'll ever see a game with multiple ancestors at once. It's just too much to develop at once and too overwhelming for the player to jump around between so many different characters. How do you even get a coherent story out of jumping around to so many people? It would become a jumbled mess in no time. Two main protagonists per game is enough -- Desmond and one ancestor.

Think of all the work to create all the different time periods, environments and characters and have it come off as cohesive. Look at Revelations, which had you visit Alta´r as well. I don't think that came off all that well, since Alta´r wasn't that developed in this game from a gameplay perspective. Plus all of his missions took place on the same map, and all of this stuff was pulled from existing designs of the first game. There's just not enough time, even given 2 or 3 years, to create lots of different ancestors, locations and time periods to fill the same game.

I like your research on the Becker-Hagens Grid, and agree that it's showing a possible network of vaults built by TWCB. I just don't think we'll be visiting more than the Grand Temple in AC3. There will likely be more games after that with more opportunities to discover more vaults and the mysteries they contain.

MaKaVeLiTL
12-16-2011, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by GeneralTrumbo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BasalCone50181:
Meh they said in AC 3 a new character would be introduced so i doubt desmond will be the main character, i think it gunna be the same with a new ancestor, and from an anonymous source of ubi (not confirmed) it gunna have the same desmond in the animus stlye game, id say it means something but not wat u described, good work though

No, trust me, I think they will work in free-roam of many different periods throughout history, with several different ancestors. Each of these ancestors accessed through a Temple. There is no reason to throw him back in the animus now. By now, Desmond would have mastered the bleeding effect. Therefore, Desmond will now be able to access MANY ancestors by will. This will mean for MANY different places to explore throughout history. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, trust me, you are wrong.

Assassin_M
12-16-2011, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by MaKaVeLiTL:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GeneralTrumbo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BasalCone50181:
Meh they said in AC 3 a new character would be introduced so i doubt desmond will be the main character, i think it gunna be the same with a new ancestor, and from an anonymous source of ubi (not confirmed) it gunna have the same desmond in the animus stlye game, id say it means something but not wat u described, good work though

No, trust me, I think they will work in free-roam of many different periods throughout history, with several different ancestors. Each of these ancestors accessed through a Temple. There is no reason to throw him back in the animus now. By now, Desmond would have mastered the bleeding effect. Therefore, Desmond will now be able to access MANY ancestors by will. This will mean for MANY different places to explore throughout history. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, trust me, you are wrong. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I find your rather fact-less claim, that he is wrong, annoying..

B_Crispino
12-16-2011, 01:13 PM
I find your rather fact-less claim, that he is wrong, annoying..

So do I...


Nice work, by the way. I really liked your idea of jump from temple to temple, but they have to finish this part of the story in this game, so i'll have to agree with twenty_glyphs, theres not enough time

MaKaVeLiTL
12-16-2011, 01:22 PM
I doubt they'll just throw in some new, random ancestors without a backstory in various cities and dates just to explore some temples.

And to the above poster why is it you agree with twenty glyphs when I said basically the same but a much shorter version?

B_Crispino
12-16-2011, 02:23 PM
don't feel bad about it, i just like him better haha

brick177
12-17-2011, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by GeneralTrumbo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Isaac500:
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Oh, wow... All I can say to that is... </pre>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif BRAVO! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

This is definitely something good, as well, if you want to look more into the theories and some actual evidence of where Piri Reis's map leads.

Piri Reis' map theories (http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

@GeneralTrumbo I think it is certainly possible that we may have multiple locations in AC3. Perhaps the grand vault in New York requires Desmond to acquire clues from the past located in other vaults in order to gain access to the grand vault. They could either be his own ancestors through the bleeding effect, or they could be stored memories of other assassin lineages located in the grand vault that only he can access.

On a separate note, your link to Piri Reis map certainly would help bolster my personal theory that AC3 will take place in the New World during the Spanish Conquest of the the Mayans. Bringing the 2012 story arc full circle with the Mayan prophecies.

MaKaVeLiTL
12-17-2011, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by B_Crispino:
don't feel bad about it, i just like him better haha
And to think I loved you. I think it's a good theory I just don't agree with the multiple ancestors part. I also think that the Grand Temple is in New York where Desmond is now, the video at the end of ACR (in ancient New York) must have had some significance. And in the Da Vinci DLC it showed the coordinates of where they are now.

B_Crispino
12-17-2011, 08:21 AM
And to think I loved you. I think it's a good theory I just don't agree with the multiple ancestors part. I also think that the Grand Temple is in New York where Desmond is now, the video at the end of ACR (in ancient New York) must have had some significance.

That was ancient New York?...

and don't worry, we'll always have Paris

brick177
12-17-2011, 11:43 AM
Yes, the Grand Temple Vault is in upstate New York. Refer to the map posted at the top of the thread. The coordinates that are displayed at the end of The Da Vinci Disappearance are 43 39 19 N, 75 27 42 W. Punch it into Google Maps or whatever and you'll see. This is the location that is supposedly at the end of Revelations when Desmond and the others get out of the van.

I don't think this means that AC3 will be set in an ancient New York, but the modern story of Desmond Miles will in all likelihood pick up at this location.

JumpInTheFire13
12-19-2011, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by YuurHeen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Inorganic9_2:
Don't that Desmond doesn't need to go to all of the vaults because all the information was transmitted to the Grand Temple anyway...

this, from what I understood, all the information gathered in the other temples can be accessed via the grand temple so there's no reason to visit each temple when you can find all the information in a single one.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

maybe the information is given like the animus gives information about ancestors. so there will be a device that will be like a animus and gives memories of people that been to other vaults. and combined he can save the world. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you're talking about the database entries, the animus doesn't give those, they are created by Shaun and/or Rebecca, and in Revelations, Clay