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ElektroFredrik
08-17-2005, 02:04 PM
After working hard this summer I have gathered enough money to get a
decent rig, and having heard that it's a bit cheaper to DIY than,
for example calling Dell I decided I'd try building one.
Since I've never built a comp before I thought it best to ask
those with more experience what to avoid and what could go wrong
and how to not be stupid.

this comp would be in the 5000-9000 SEK (approx. 700-1100 USD) price
range and have:
A minimum of 1GB RAM
A CPU of 3GHz (preferably from Intel)
Possibly a Geforce 6600 GT 128MB (or better, please enlighten me) graphics card
Sound card with its own CPU (would that be APU?)

This comp will be used for playing games (PF-merged) and working with
3D software (Maya) and probably lots of stupid things
All hints, tips and tricks are welcome. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ddsflyer
08-17-2005, 02:07 PM
Wow, where to start? Post this on the Community Help forum where the hardware gurus hang out. They will help I'm sure.

danjama
08-17-2005, 03:14 PM
PM me i love helping people with builds http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif PPPPLLLLLEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEE!!!!

georgeo76
08-17-2005, 06:02 PM
Any fool can build a computer if everything goes well. Problems require an expert. And there are always problems,

Try to have someone in the know close by who can help if things go wrong. If you don't have any techy friends, try to buy from those willing to help.

The best deals by far are found Online. Beware random retail sites and Ebay. Sometimes it's worth a few bucks extra for service and terms you can count on from the tried and true sites. I recommend MagnumPC, Newegg, and ZipZoomFly. All of whom I've dealt w/ personally.

Spend some time researching. Know exactly what you want and read the manuals before you buy!

Be patient! The longer you wait the cheaper your parts will be.

Count on spending $50-$100(USD) extra for things you won't know you need until you need them.

Buy parts that are expandable/upgradeable. Make sure you don't buy into dead-end technology.

A good case and PSU are tempting areas to be cheap, but they are the only things likely to survive more than one upgrade. CPUs and Video cards hemorrhage value while Motherboards and RAM deprecate little.

AFSG_Bulldog
08-17-2005, 06:49 PM
Well you can go to all of the trouble of getting all of the components and putting them together, if you like that sort of thing. However, my last two machines I got from Cyberpower PC (http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/). They have some nice "already configured" machines or you can customize the ones they have. And you can eliminate most of the stuff you don't need. Or if you are reeal brave you can pick all of the components you want and they will put it together for you and set it up. And on top of that you get a warranty and support service. I plan on getting all of my machines there from now on.

Oh yea... their prices are pretty good too.

Nick_Toznost
08-17-2005, 07:59 PM
Get an ATI card, independant reviews say it all.

fordfan25
08-17-2005, 08:17 PM
i know you said P4 but id adise AMD 64's. id say a 3500 54 socket 939. pciE based mother bord "asus and aBit make good ones i know" a ocz 500ww PSU id go at least a gig and a half of ram. games like F.E.A.R are recommending a gig right now. get corsair or kingston. pick your self out a nice case with spots for losts of fans. im not sure just how much u got to spend but a 6600gt would be fine but id recommend one of the higher ups. like a 6800gt or one of the new 7800's i think thay are. BFG makes a great invidea based card and there normaly OCed to start with. vantech makes some GREAT fans. beats the mess outa what came with my case. just be sure the case has got a spot for atleast 1 frount fan 2 rear ones are great a side fan and maby even a top one. if yoy want a DVD burner id recommend you get a normal DVD player and a extrenal burner. new games are interduceing VERY invasive copy protection that likes to foul up when thay detect a burner or burner softwear. id recommend ordering from eather newegg.com or magnumpc.com. if im not mistaken resadint comunity help guru and all around great guy hunter "pimpdaddy" has something to do with magpc but im not sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. here is two extra tips 1# the pretty stuff is not always the good stuff how ever that brings me to #2 and that is why by a ugly case when for same price you cant get a cool one that works just as good http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif. also dont even bother reading user reviews from newegg http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif o and as far as harddrives go get a seta weastern digital. at least a 80 gig but the price diff from 80 to 160 is small. i cant recommend going the raid way because that doubles your cost and youll se no IN game play incress only when loading the Levels. so unless you realy impateant save the extra and spend it on a better cpu,more ram,or better GPU http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

fordfan25
08-17-2005, 08:48 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133154

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104155

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128301 ...not 100% sure on this one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif not sure if you HAVE to run 2 cpu's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440 times 2. to give you a full 2 gigs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103533 even gives you a cobo price break with the new 7800 tear invidea cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143026 6600gt

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143029R great card and WOW have thay droped in price http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143037 even better card http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufacto...y=62&Submit=Property (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=1453&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&description=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&SubCategory=62&Submit=Property) i love them so http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



now thats just what i would recommend how ever i also recommend #1 you read some good reviws and vist some tech forums for the pricy stuff and to check around like at magnumpc.com to compair prices.

fordfan25
08-17-2005, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Nick_Toznost:
Get an ATI card, independant reviews say it all.

i disagree but realy 6 one half dozen the other. some games play better on ati others on invidea. some games like ati drivers while others have less probs with invidea. as far as mid range id say invidea all the way. mid to high its a toss but right now the top end is invideas new 7800gtx i think it is. ati is supose to be comeing out with a new one soon though.