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Pirschjaeger
12-18-2005, 08:27 PM
.....over. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

I rarely happens, but today.......oooohhhh.

A bit of advice:

Do not limit yourself to bowls of peanuts when drinking beer with high concentrations of fermeldahyde(spelling?). Yes, Chinese beer contains very high levels. Even their laws permit much higher concentrations compared to most countries. The results are devastating the next morning and resurrection a dehydrated belly full of peanuts will rip you throat out.

I can't even work. I can post though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fritz

SkyChimp
12-18-2005, 08:30 PM
I understand swallowing a handfull of cat hair helps.

Pirschjaeger
12-18-2005, 08:39 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gifLMAO

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif ow

It hurts to laugh.

Fritz

danjama
12-18-2005, 08:43 PM
Oh Fritz, i admire your honesty http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Wheres my beer??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Get this, i was drunk last week from Monday through Thursday, man i was out of it for 4 days!!!!

Needless to say i didnt go to college for that week http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Luckily i wasnt sick, i hate being sick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

LStarosta
12-18-2005, 08:50 PM
How much did you drink Fritz? And aren't you moving to Germany?

I heard formaldehyde is illegal in German beer.

Pirschjaeger
12-18-2005, 09:11 PM
Normally I don't get sick, unless I drink Chinese beer. I didn't drink much, maybe 4 liters. Chinese beer also has a low alcohol content, about 3.4%, but the chemical content is high.

When I'm in Germany and drink with my buddies, I'll drink about 5 liters or more of beer from the private brewery plus schnapps and of course Jaegermeister but I don't get drunk, sick, or hang-overs.

But lastnight I was invited to "Schiller's" for one "goodbye beer". They forgot to mention "each". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I'll be in Germany on Friday morning. I was able to finish things early so now I have a bit of time to hang out at the net cafe.

Yes, German laws on brewing beer go back to 1516. Even the use of sugar in the process of making schnapps is illegal. The only sugar allowed is that of the fruit. Asians use sugar in their schnapps to speed up the process. This give Asian schnapps that terrible taste.

BTW, I don't want to give anyone the impression that I'm a heavy drinker. I do love beer but truth is I don't drink often. I drink about 3 beer a week on average(socially). I party about once every month and a half. There was a case of alcoholism in my family when I was a child and today I deeply dispise alcoholics but admire those who are strong enough to break the habit.

Fritz

Siwarrior
12-18-2005, 09:40 PM
Pirsch........ I share your problems http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif


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LEBillfish
12-19-2005, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
BTW, I don't want to give anyone the impression that I'm a heavy drinker.
Fritz

boozer........ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Pirschjaeger
12-19-2005, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
boozer........ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Flattery will get you everywhere. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Ha ha ha, LeBillfish, the title was aimed to get your attention. I was a little disappointed that the first response came from a flying primate. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

Friendly_flyer
12-19-2005, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
I was a little disappointed that the first response came from a flying primate.


What where you expecting coming to this forum, Fritz? Technically, we're all primates you know.

I have the same problem as you. Normally, beer won't give me much trouble the day after (depending on amount, naturally), but drinking spirits (esp. whisky or cognac) is a generally bad idea for me. Luckily, when moving to Germany you won't have the problem.

Formalaldehyde is a very nasty substance. Why the Chinese want it in their beer in the fist place is a mystery to me. Tsingtao is nice enough, though. When brand where you drinking?

Pirschjaeger
12-19-2005, 03:40 AM
Tsingtao.

Ever since I've been in China, I've noticed Chinese beer has an adverse evect on me. If I go abroad, then retyrn to China, it takes me a while to get used to the beer again. In the first few days, one Chinese beer gives me one hell of a headache and my sinuses become congested.

I've been back here for almost 6 months after spending 2 months in Germany. Since my return I've been avoiding the beer here but lastnight was impossible. Too many offers.

Formaldahyde is common in mass produced beers. It increases its shelflife. What is not common is the legal amount in China. They have the highest allowed quantities in the world. I read an artilce in China daily whereas all this was mentioned. The officials openly said they suspected beer producers are using much higher than the legal amounts. Long term population control?

I think the two reasons I got such a bad after effect was that I rarely drink it and secondly, when I do drink in a party situation, I drink a lot. To add, I rarely get drunk even when drinking all night. My tolerance level to alcohol or medicine is very high. Very annoying when getting a root canal.

Fritz

msalama
12-19-2005, 03:45 AM
Hey Fritz, if you want to experience a real man's hangover then by all means drink a copious amount of Finnish lager. Talk about formaldehyde... brr... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

LStarosta
12-19-2005, 05:40 AM
It's great to know that the substance they soak frogs for science class dissections is the same thing they put in Bud.

Friendly_flyer
12-19-2005, 06:20 AM
Formaldehyde is a nasty substance. It will soke right through your skin, causing the tisue to stiffen up and give you canser and a number of other nasty side-effects. It will even break down dead tisue. Keeping animals in formaldehyde will break them down over time.

HotelBushranger
12-19-2005, 06:29 AM
So why the hell do people drink it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

ploughman
12-19-2005, 06:33 AM
They have this **** beer in India that gives you the hangover before you get drunk.

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carts
12-19-2005, 06:47 AM
Intresting that the chinese have a low alchol content beer that still gives you a terrific hangover! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I remember seeing a programme about genetics that said that people of asiatic origin due to some genetic difference cant synthesise alchol as well as other races,they tend to get drunk quicker,and they take longer to break down the alchol in the body,this may explain the reason for Karaoke bars! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Tully__
12-19-2005, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
So why the hell do people drink it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

The beer brewers put it in as a preservative. It's in Aussie beer too I suspect, but in smaller quantities.

msalama
12-19-2005, 10:10 AM
They have this **** beer in India that gives you the hangover before you get drunk.

Yeah, the venerable Kingfisher http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Gave me one of my worst hangovers ever, that stuff... aaaargh... baaarf... the memory still sends shivers down my spine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Their other big brand, the Sandpiper, is, ahem, a bit of an acquired taste as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ploughman
12-19-2005, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by msalama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">They have this **** beer in India that gives you the hangover before you get drunk.

Yeah, the venerable Kingfisher http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Gave me one of my worst hangovers ever, that stuff... aaaargh... baaarf... the memory still sends shivers down my spine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Their other big brand, the Sandpiper, is, ahem, a bit of an acquired taste as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's the stuff. Someone told me it had glycerine in it, two of those and you've got a headache like Trotsky.

msalama
12-19-2005, 10:44 AM
...and you've got a headache like Trotsky.

Worse. A pickaxe is more merciful than a Kingfisher http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MLudner
12-19-2005, 10:47 AM
I get entirely around this entire problem by being a teetotaller.

Bongokid
12-19-2005, 10:53 AM
Well since its a bit in my working field i'll add some precisions about formaldehyde.

Formaldehyde is a gaz at room temperature and pressure but it is widely used in aqueous solutions as a bacterostatic agent.

It can be found in many cosmetic formulations in very small quantities as a prezervative. highly concentrated solutions (30%) are used in northern america as embalming fluids since, by killing bacteria, it prevents decomposition of cadavres.

Its presence in beer might be due to previous sterilization of the bottles or as a result of natural processes occuring during beer maturation.

Indeed this substance has been classified recently as carcinogenic to humans by several international agencies. However this relates to cancer of the nasal ways caused by inhalation of high concentrations of formaldehyde, that are now rarely found in the workplace and even more rarely in the general environment.

Other than that the main adverse effect of formaldehyde is irritation of the upper airways, eyes (at about 1 mg/m3) and skin (when in concentrated solutions).

My best guess in the case of your hangover pirshjaeger is that formaldehyde might have caused slight irritation of your intestinal tract but i have no clue about what concentration would be able to cause that.

So blame it on the peanuts ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Cheers,

Bongokid

msalama
12-19-2005, 11:39 AM
I get entirely around this entire problem by being a teetotaller.

Erm... your loss?

MLudner
12-19-2005, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by msalama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I get entirely around this entire problem by being a teetotaller.

Erm... your loss? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My gain. I've seen enough of you slobbering drunks pissing on doors to know that.
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ploughman
12-19-2005, 11:55 AM
So, if you don't drink the big question is...how do you pull?

jugent
12-19-2005, 01:05 PM
Did u say you where well hung........,

msalama
12-19-2005, 01:07 PM
Did u say you where well hung........,

Yes, didn't he say he was "overtly hung" or something?

MLudner
12-19-2005, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
So, if you don't drink the big question is...how do you pull?

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joeap
12-19-2005, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Bongokid:
Well since its a bit in my working field i'll add some precisions about formaldehyde.

...
Indeed this substance has been classified recently as carcinogenic to humans by several international agencies. However this relates to cancer of the nasal ways caused by inhalation of high concentrations of formaldehyde, that are now rarely found in the workplace and even more rarely in the general environment.

Other than that the main adverse effect of formaldehyde is irritation of the upper airways, eyes (at about 1 mg/m3) and skin (when in concentrated solutions).

...

Cheers,

Bongokid

Interesting, I have a friend who had a skin reaction to this stuff (around the eyes) and her dermatologist blamed the use of certain shampoos. She was shocked by it and now chooses her cosmetics very carefully. Bad stuff IMO.

jds1978
12-19-2005, 02:26 PM
quit drinking years ago...don't miss my morning "ritual" one bit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Gold_Monkey
12-19-2005, 08:49 PM
It could be Monosodium Gluamate, same as is put in Chinese foods?


BTW nice Christmas avatar LEbillfish http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Pirschjaeger
12-19-2005, 09:13 PM
Bongokid, you hit the nail right on the head. My first reaction to drinking a Chinese beer, and this is before the first is finished, is sinus congestion usually causing a lot of pain behind my eyes. What you said makes perfect sense and matches my physical reaction to Chinese beer.

I used to think that alcohol and dehydration were the causes of hangovers but learnt a few years ago it is actually the chemical preservatives used in beer. As I pointed out earlier, I never get hangovers from beer brewed in a private brewery. I know many don't get to try this but once you do you'll never take mass produced beer as first choice again.

The media will tell you beer has health benefits when drunken moderately but they don't tell you which beer. Formaldehyde offers no health benefits; quite the opposite actually.

Fritz