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csthopper
08-19-2007, 05:53 PM
I'm about 20 sorties into the USAF Dynamic campaign that starts out in Pearl Harbor then heads over to New Guinea flying a P40.

So far about 15 of the 20 sorties under my belt have been fighting off attacks on my airfield, while the other 5 are bomber escort missions.

My question is, what do I have to look forward to in this campaign? Will it go all the way to 1945 if I stick with it? Will I ever fly the P-38, P-47, or the P-51 in the future, or am I stuck in a P40 defending my base for the rest of my career?

Crash_Moses
08-19-2007, 08:38 PM
Good question and hard to answer.

The built in dynamic campaign generator is known to be quite repetitive. I think you can expect about 40 missions and since the campaigns are based on plane type I'm pretty sure you're stuck with the P-40 (actually a great plane if you learn how to fly it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ).

I highly recommend Lowengrin's Dynamic Campaign Generator. You can get it here:

http://www.lowengrin.com/news.php

Also, you should check the static campaigns at www.mission4today.com (http://www.mission4today.com) .

S!

I highly reco

csthopper
08-19-2007, 09:16 PM
Great response, thanks. I will definitely check out those links.

As for the P40, I've always loved that plane. My flight group is running circles against the Oscars and Zeros...i figure at this rate they should run out of Oscars pretty soon. I would like to say i haven't died in the campaign yet, but the tail gunner in those damn bettys has zapped me a couple times http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

It's also not a bad campaign because you being thrown into the fight right away. I have a harder time doing the USN campaign because it takes you 30 minutes to get to the fight, and one stupid mistake makes you have to do it over again.

Crash_Moses
08-19-2007, 09:31 PM
Tell me about it...I swear they put snipers in the back of the Betty. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If you like the P-40 check out the Flying Tiger's campaign White Sun Blue Sky (also found at Mission4today). You start out flying the Hawk (it's as historically accurate as possible with this sim). Probably one of the best campaigns I've ever played.

VoivodSK
08-20-2007, 01:42 AM
You can check the planes you are going to fly at the screen before the start of the campaign, just before you hit "Generate" (the screen where you choose your rank and squadron). There is a list of all places and aircraft included in the campaign. Just enter a new campaign, look up the info and delete it.

DKoor
08-20-2007, 10:47 PM
Never attack the Betty unless you have alt advantage - no that it will help much tho but at least it wont pulverize you in the first pass :roll:

If I may suggest, fly under these settings:


[DGen]
NoBadWeather=1
MaxFLAK=5
MaxBomberSkill=0 that means lowest possible skill level for a bombers even that is too high (still high precision)
MissionDistance=30
OperationVictory=3000
OperationDefeat=-3000
WarVictory=30000
WarDefeat=-30000
UseParkedPlanes=1
SlowFire=10.0 (ship rate of fire)

Just copy paste the lines you like into your conf.fini [DGen] section and you'll have that in your campaigns.

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2007, 05:44 AM
csthopper-

Since CrashMoses has mentioned it, you might like my Flying Tigers campaign a lot- it's the whole lifespan of the Flying Tigers, with extra missions thrown in for fun. You need il2 Sturmovik:1946 to play it, though, it can't be used with PF standalone or any other version lower than 4.07

You'll fly H81A-2s and P-40Es in "Burma", "China", and other places. Here's a link:

self-installer (http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=2166)

Lots of skins are included. I had been making better ones, because I had just started to learn to skin and the skins were not good enough for my liking, but I unfortunately only got to release one update before I had a hard drive crash and lost my skinning templates. These skins here:

3rd Squadron update (http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1947)

are in my opinion the most historically correct Flying Tigers skins available anywhere, currently. Install them after installing the campaign, and also copy and paste them to the P-40C folder, too

One thing you may also find interesting is the intro movie to that campaign. I made it to illustrate the various successful ways of attacking bombers without getting shot to bits. You will see many tactics that can help you survive bomber intercepts in that intro, and of course those tactics are useful in any fighter

It is a static campaign, not dynamic, and will follow the general story of the 3rd Squadron AVG. It does diverge from the true story in several ways, due to the nature of the sim. But if you're a P-40 fan, you might be interested

if you don't have at least v4.07, you can still use the skins, which are also available seperately, just click the hyperlink on the WSBS page for my name- Chris_Blair

csthopper
08-21-2007, 06:26 AM
I ran over and got White Sun Blue Sky the minute i read the post from CrashMoses. I wasn't expecting the campaign to be as polished and detailed as it was, very impressive. I just finished the first combat mission intercepting the bombers...if only these P40s could hold 4x as much ammo.

You did a good job in your intro movie because I did notice your approach against the bombers. Caught my attention because of the angles you took, and that you were pretty good at hitting em from those angles.

I figured it would also be more destructive and take less ammo If i could get in front of the bombers and make a head on pass while aiming for the engines. My only problem is that those bombers are pretty quick and it takes a while to setup for another approach.

I'll definitely check out those skins. Thanks a lot guys for pointing me to those mission sites and specifically to this campaign; now back to the war.

csthopper
08-21-2007, 12:03 PM
Oh, and another thing, that music you choose for the WSBS campaign is crazy. I find myself entering a trance while the mission is loading.

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2007, 02:29 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif glad you're enjoying the campaign

triad773
08-21-2007, 07:23 PM
Cool Cid- downloaded it today! I love the P-40 and am looking forward to this.

Seemingly not too many people in the US understand that Americans were involved fighting the Japanese before Pearl. I know it's been an opportunity to educate my wife who loves history but (being a girl I guess http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) has shied away from reading much military history. Perhaps she'll be more patient when I am flying the campaign, trying to experience history on a new and interesting level.

~S~

Triad
P.S.- Love the self-installer! Always was impatient loading up skins one folder at a time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PBNA-Boosher
08-22-2007, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by DKoor:
Never attack the Betty unless you have alt advantage - no that it will help much tho but at least it wont pulverize you in the first pass :roll:

I beg to differ. There are no ventral guns on the Betty. If you come up straight underneath it with enough energy you can pulverize it with a short burst. As vulnerable as it is from the side, it's even more flimsy underneath.

Nimits
08-23-2007, 08:02 AM
Seemingly not too many people in the US understand that Americans were involved fighting the Japanese before Pearl.

Keep in mind that the AVG did not fly their first combat mission till after Pearl, though.

As to the original question, if you are playing the defauly campaign, you will fly several dozen missions through late 1942 over Papua New Guinea, then transfer to bomber escort over Japan in the Spring/Summer of 1945.

JimmyBlonde
08-24-2007, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by csthopper:
I'm about 20 sorties into the USAF Dynamic campaign that starts out in Pearl Harbor then heads over to New Guinea flying a P40.

So far about 15 of the 20 sorties under my belt have been fighting off attacks on my airfield, while the other 5 are bomber escort missions.

My question is, what do I have to look forward to in this campaign? Will it go all the way to 1945 if I stick with it? Will I ever fly the P-38, P-47, or the P-51 in the future, or am I stuck in a P40 defending my base for the rest of my career?


You have Lowengrin's DCG to look forward to.

JimmyBlonde
08-24-2007, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by DKoor:

If I may suggest, fly under these settings:


[DGen]
NoBadWeather=1
MaxFLAK=5
MaxBomberSkill=0 that means lowest possible skill level for a bombers even that is too high (still high precision)
MissionDistance=30
OperationVictory=3000
OperationDefeat=-3000
WarVictory=30000
WarDefeat=-30000
UseParkedPlanes=1
SlowFire=10.0 (ship rate of fire)

Just copy paste the lines you like into your conf.fini [DGen] section and you'll have that in your campaigns.

Could I get a little more detail on the location of this file please?

DKoor
08-24-2007, 08:14 AM
Root IL-2 folder http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

However.......when you open conf file (with Notepad) you'll notice that there is no [DGen] section, so you must create one for yourself (you may just copy/paste what I wrote above it'll do and edit it to your likings)

DKoor
08-24-2007, 08:18 AM
BTW here's detailed info:

<sub>
Here are all possible DGen settings in conf.ini

MissionDistance= (0-300)

In FB - prefered mission distance in km
In PF - any value means that carriers are located in shorter than historical distance on maps where it is important - Hawaii, Midway, Marianas.

SlowFire=(0.5-100, default 5)

In PF only - ship rate of fire is reduced.

RandomFlights=(0-5) FB only - a maximal number of random flights.

MaxFLAK=(0-100)

FB only - maximal number of AAA en route, does not affect target area.

MaxBomberSkill=(0-3)
PF and FB - max skill level of bombers.

CampaignLength=(Long,Medium,Short,VeryShort", default VeryLong)
FB only - allows to reduce a number of missions in campaign.

CampaignDifficulty=(Hard,Normal,Easy)
FB and PF
same as simultaneously setting CampaignAI and CampaignMissions

CampaignAI=(Hard,Normal,Easy)
FB and PF changes default distribution of AI skill by modifying friendly and hostile AI levels.

CampaignMissions=(Hard,Normal,Easy)
FB and PF (no files for PF yet)
Switches to alternative set of ops files, modifying numbers of friendly and hostile flights.

OperationVictory=
OperationDefeat=

PF only
sets numbers of points after which an operation is considered success or failure, calling alternative debrief.

WarVictory=
WarDefeat=

PF only

sets numbers of points after which a war is considered won or lost calling alternative end of war missions.

NoActiveFrontline

BoE only
Removes additional units active around frontline.

NoBadWeather

FB and PF
Prevents bad weather (thunderstorm, rain, snow)

NoAirfieldHighlight

FB and PF
Removes AAA on airfields that are not used in current operation, thus preventing their highligthin on a map (giving away active airfields).

UseParachutes

PF only
Allows Japanese to use chutes since start of the war.

AirIntensity=(High,Medium,Low)

Modifies group size. In PF also modifies a number of random flights.

GroundIntensity=(High,Medium,Low)

Modifies areas where moving and static targets are located. On Low only creates them around active airfields and target area. On Medium there is a limit of 3 moving targets except in target area.

UseParkedPlanes

In ETO defines your initial airfield by searching first for airfields with static planes of the type you selected.

HistoricalRanks

Used in ETO to allow more realistic rank system, similar to one in Pacific. You will lead earlier and there won't be
a lot of senior officers in your squadron.
</sub>

JimmyBlonde
08-24-2007, 08:23 AM
Thanks guys, I guess you just tack it on to the end then?

Cheers.

JimmyBlonde
08-24-2007, 08:41 AM
Hope I got this right:


http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7600/confpe8.png

DKoor
08-24-2007, 11:19 AM
Yep that's it you may customize it the way you want now.

han freak solo
08-27-2007, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DKoor:
Never attack the Betty unless you have alt advantage - no that it will help much tho but at least it wont pulverize you in the first pass :roll:

I beg to differ. There are no ventral guns on the Betty. If you come up straight underneath it with enough energy you can pulverize it with a short burst. As vulnerable as it is from the side, it's even more flimsy underneath. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's why I need the altitude advantage. To swoop down, come back up from underneath, zoom back up, and repeat.