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Chuck_Older
02-29-2004, 10:42 AM
As I was tolling around in my 3rd Squadron AVG #68 plane http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif today, I was wondering- how about the A5M, Allied codename Claude? We kinda need that plane to oppose the P-40 (or the Hawk 81 if we get one, please oh please) for early war/Flying tigers scenarios. They were definitely aboard the Soryu in 1941. I can't remember anyone suggesting this aircraft, and I know it's late in the game, but I thought I'd bring it up.

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Chuck_Older
02-29-2004, 10:42 AM
As I was tolling around in my 3rd Squadron AVG #68 plane http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif today, I was wondering- how about the A5M, Allied codename Claude? We kinda need that plane to oppose the P-40 (or the Hawk 81 if we get one, please oh please) for early war/Flying tigers scenarios. They were definitely aboard the Soryu in 1941. I can't remember anyone suggesting this aircraft, and I know it's late in the game, but I thought I'd bring it up.

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Did anyone prophesize these people? Only Travis. Come in Travis! ~ Clash

SkyChimp
02-29-2004, 10:43 AM
Already in developement. There are some screenshots lurking around somewhere at Netwings.

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chris455
02-29-2004, 11:17 AM
Chuck, great idea.
Also, some Nakajima Ki-27 Nates would be useful in AVG scenarios. I believe that JAAF aircraft were encountered more often than JNAF planes in that theater anyway.
Anybody know if we have a Nate under development?
Bring on the early war stuff!
S!

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SKY_BOSS
02-29-2004, 11:38 AM
Pacific plane set would be great.

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horseback
02-29-2004, 12:15 PM
Yeah, Nates and Oscars-as if I didn't already ahve enough trouble trying to hit the freaking I-153s!

Claudes were not nearly so prevalent; their last combat sorties that I'm aware of were at Coral Sea, so if you're gonna get them I want my Wildcats, both the F4F-3 with fixed wings and the Dash 4 and tall tailed FM-2 with folding wings.

cheers

horseback

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Vortex_uk
02-29-2004, 04:07 PM
Some more planes like 'Val'(Dive Bomber) 'Kate' (Torpedo plane) and the 'Betty' (Medium Bomber)???

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horseback
02-29-2004, 04:50 PM
Absolutely. We'll all need something to light our victory cigars. Those shoud provide a nice even flame.

cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944

DONB3397
02-29-2004, 05:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by horseback:
Absolutely. We'll all need something to light our victory cigars. Those shoud provide a nice even flame.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You're probably right. Don't remember that either Vals or Kates carried any weight after the Battle of the Coral Sea. But they weren't taken out of service. As vulnerable as they were, the Imperial Japanese Navy continued to use these a/c throughout the Solomons Campaign and even in the Marianas. If we want to fly a realistic PTO series, they need to be there...as AIs (don't know who'd fly them).

Claudes? After China, where did they make an impact?

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Chuck_Older
02-29-2004, 06:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DONB3397:


Claudes? After China, where did they make an impact?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Pacific Ocean http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Actually, they were used as Kamikaze aircraft after China.

You have a point, but I picked the A5M as the point of this post because it's unknown compared to it's replacement.

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Adair_Smith
02-29-2004, 07:47 PM
Oh God YES!

My favourite aircraft. Just perfect for flamming all those Chinese and Russian volunteer I-16 and I-153's.

The old Netwings project is long dead. Will anybody else take up the challenge?

horseback
02-29-2004, 11:57 PM
An A5M claude was the first victim of US carrier borne Wildcats, during the "revenge raids" on the Marianas in February 1942. LT(jg) Wilmer (please call me Bill) Rawie took one out in a head on pass and was not credited for another he damaged and then collided with. Rawie made it back to ENTERPRISE, but the Japanese pilot had to take to his chute.

Barrett Tillman's "Wildcat: The F4F in WWII" has a very good account of the encounter, drawn from interviews with three of the four participants.

Cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944

rbstr44
03-01-2004, 10:50 PM
Battle of Khalkin Gol

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