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mandrill7
03-24-2006, 09:10 PM
IIRC, the double-decker bus was introduced in the 50's. In the 40's, London still had trams.

LEXX_Luthor
03-24-2006, 11:17 PM
I think double deck bus or trolleys went back before the red 1956 RouteMaster.

1940 BoB 2deck bus/trolley pic, scroll down near bottom ~> http://www.battleofbritain.net/document-3.html


It would be nice if you were correct, since BoB And Beyond must have 2deck buses, Oleg would have to change the planeset... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/Lexx_Luthor/6f9c0910.jpg

OD_79
03-25-2006, 07:28 AM
Double decker busses were around then I've seen pictures of one the crashed into a bomb crater, I'm sure there are plenty of other examples.

OD.

ZappaTime
03-25-2006, 09:01 AM
Check this, i think its the pic you recall
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2/images/dna/site/blitz_a1057349_hq8585.jpg

F19_Olli72
03-25-2006, 09:16 AM
Found this:
http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~pv/pv/courses/posters/images6/movingbus.jpg

MM-Zorin
03-25-2006, 10:03 AM
AEC Regent (http://www.busweb.co.uk/aecbus/regent.htm) This should clear things up.

CD_kp84yb
03-25-2006, 10:13 AM
There is also a pic of a bus smashed again a house, i have got it somewhere , its called "the bus that Hitler missed"

regards

mandrill7
03-25-2006, 04:35 PM
I stand happily corrected. I shall never again make insolent and irresponsible assertions against the Greater London Transit System.

Thanks for the input.

jamesdietz
03-26-2006, 11:33 AM
Well ...I want to make sure their ...uh...FM..is correct also don't forget about powerplant & armament,speed etc....& oh yeah what about the number of crew,their uniforms etc... & passengers????

major_setback
03-26-2006, 04:52 PM
http://anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com/othervehicles/images/Bus.jpg

SeaFireLIV
03-26-2006, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by mandrill7:
IIRC, the double-decker bus was introduced in the 50's. In the 40's, London still had trams.


Ahh, mandrill7, all you needed to do was get a basic book on the BOB. Every book on BOB will have at least ONE iconical picture of the famous london bus in a bomb crater or similar. It`s a pity that so many here fire from the hip when all it takes is a tiny bit of research...

Beaufort-RAF
03-26-2006, 05:37 PM
http://www.blightyblog.co.uk/archives/blitz.jpg

major_setback
03-26-2006, 05:40 PM
From another war. WWI troop carrier and pigeon coop:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/images/175%20yrs%20for%20bus/1914.jpg

1940's bus:

The caption reads:
"Buses continued to run in London during World War II. To protect passengers from flying glass in the event of a bomb blast, netting was used to line the windows. A small opening in the middle of the window was created to help passengers see where they were".


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/images/175%20yrs%20for%20bus/1940.jpg

http://www.ekmpowershop.com/ekmps/shops/Transport/images/londonbusesbeforethewar-1.jpg

Proof:

http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/virtual/online_exhibitions/transportatwar/images/484px/Image-20.jpg

http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/virtual/online_exhibitions/transportatwar/images/484px/Image-19.jpg

http://www.mixedtraffic.net/war/casualties/bus.jpg

HerrGraf
03-27-2006, 09:11 PM
You folks really need to read the article in an old National Lampoon titled "Battling Buses of World War 2" Don't remember the year though.

major_setback
03-28-2006, 11:42 AM
I traveled from London to Kathmandu on a double decker bus a good few years ago. There was a company called Top Deck that did those trips, they might still be around (I think they were Routemaster busses; not really that much into them so I can't really distiguish one type from another).
The trip took 3 months...sightseeing on the way. We slept upstairs and ate and cooked downstairs...on the road.
there were about 15 of us on the trip from all over the world.
We passed through a small section of Europe, Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Iran, Pakistan and India before arriving in Nepal.

Now nearly all my travel is done on the computer.

WOLFMondo
03-28-2006, 02:29 PM
That must have been quite some journey, especially on those little mountain roads in Nepal. I drove around in that area of the world less than a month ago and the drivers there are nutcases. Put me of driving for life!

ZappaTime
03-28-2006, 03:58 PM
Two thrupp'nies to the Khyber Pass please http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

major_setback
03-29-2006, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by ZappaTime:
Two thrupp'nies to the Khyber Pass please http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

We actually went up to the Khyber Pass and looked down into Afghanistan. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I'd post some pictures but they're all slides and I haven't got around to scanning them yet.
These are from the 'net:

http://www.centralsmt.co.uk/Photos/Lodekkas/BL276%20with%20Top%20Deck%20Travel.jpg

http://www.sct61.org.uk/e/es2900.jpg


That must have been quite some journey, especially on those little mountain roads in Nepal. I drove around in that area of the world less than a month ago and the drivers there are nutcases. Put me of driving for life!

Some of the best fun was travelling by small roads through India. Most people use train, so we were a real novelty in the small towns and villages we passed through.
I agree that the way some people drive out there is very worrying. We saw lots of nasty sights on the side of the roads.

Dunkelgrun
03-31-2006, 01:12 AM
Mandrill, you should have come to me first. My grandfather drove the things around London during the war.
There were also trolleybuses that looked like a conventional buses but got their power from overhead wires.

I hope that Oleg does more research on the buses though - the one depicted in the screenshot has at least two major spelling mistakes on it.

Cheers!