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Lennart_970
03-19-2010, 10:10 AM
I hope this topic wont get closed.. Actualy, I don't see any reason to (for real this time).

Anyway:
Ghost Recon.
Always liked it (eccept GR:AW2). The story has always been set in the near future which made it ''possible'' to happen. The battles and missions were always very realistic (not talking about the gameplay here, just the story) and therefor: FUN.

Advanced Warfighter took the near future to a new level. With its Nar-/ Crosscom, UAV and satalite view. A few people complained because of the technology advances in the game but its still realistic. The US army has got a similar set-up (which ways quite a few pounds and is less advanced).

However, with future soldier this opinion is pushed away a bit. After seeing the intro video with those ''cloacking carpets'' I get the idea that Ubisoft is pushing this Ghost Recon to the year 3400 AD...
I hope for their sakes they don't put cloaking ability in the game because there is no way they can make that in real life. And if they could.. it would cost a million dollars each. A soldiers life isn't worth that much to them so its still unrealistic.

So Ubisoft, Future soldier: lets not get carried away with it. Its not HALO.

EDIT: has anyone noticed that the story is about the same as the very 1st GR? Ultranasionalists in Russia. uuh.. what is happening?

MiNeRvA.
03-20-2010, 05:51 PM
I havent played GR properly since GR2 disappeared for PC players http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I tried playing it on Xbox but cant use the darn controllers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

I am looking forward to seeing what this one has to offer but am not going to hold my breath for it to replace the OGR for me.

I am hopeful that whatever futuristic things they introduce they also have items that counter it. As long as it fits and doesn't feel like i'm playing Halo or COD then i'll give it a good chance http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Lennart_970
03-21-2010, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by MiNeRvA.:
I havent played GR properly since GR2 disappeared for PC players http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I tried playing it on Xbox but cant use the darn controllers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

I am looking forward to seeing what this one has to offer but am not going to hold my breath for it to replace the OGR for me.

I am hopeful that whatever futuristic things they introduce they also have items that counter it. As long as it fits and doesn't feel like i'm playing Halo or COD then i'll give it a good chance http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Lol, those controlers is a matter of getting used to. Xbox is ok but the PS will never work... Mouse and keyboard all the way http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But I share the rest of your opinion. Although I realy hope they won't put in anything stupid. Lets just keep it with todays tech and improve it a but to make it look better (like that crosscom).

GuZZ33
03-23-2010, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Lennart_970:
future soldier cloaking ability in the game because there is no way they can make that in real life.
Are you a modern day scientist ?. The government scientists will make it happen one day. They will use a specific advanced material that the future soldier will wear as his uniform, it will have tachnology implanted in the material that will act like a mirror, the environement will be fed back to the future technology uniform as a mask, as a cloaking device making it possible to confuse and trick the enemy. Have you ever seen a mirage ?, an optical phenomenon, a trick of the light.

Lennart_970
03-23-2010, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by GuZZ33:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GuZZ33:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GuZZ33:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lennart_970:
future soldier cloaking ability in the game because there is no way they can make that in real life.
Are you a modern day scientist ?. The government scientists will make it happen one day, if not already, there might be a prototype, it will be materialised. They will use a specific advanced material that the future soldier will wear as his uniform, it will have tachnology implanted in the material that will act like a mirror, the environement will be fed back to the future technology uniform as a mask, as a cloaking device making it possible to confuse and trick the enemy. Have you ever seen a mirage ?, an optical phenomenon, a trick of the light. The future soldier will be there, he will exist, but you won't see him </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Have you actualy read the whole topic? If you had, you should have seen that I wrote: and even if they could make it, a soldiers life isn't worth enough to use it. Those things won't come cheap you know. Not in the NEAR FUTURE which is what Ghost Recon was all about.

I'd say youactualy read the topic next time.. and don't tripple post.

GuZZ33
03-24-2010, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by Lennart_970:
I'd say you actualy read the topic next time.. and don't tripple post.
I actualy read it pal, not my fault this forum posted my reply three times. Future technology such as cloaking devices will be here, nothing you can do about it pal. Get with it mate or don't?.

Lennart_970
03-24-2010, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by GuZZ33:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lennart_970:
I'd say you actualy read the topic next time.. and don't tripple post.
I actualy read it pal, not my fault this forum posted my reply three times. Future technology such as cloaking devices will be here, nothing you can do about it pal. Get with it mate or don't?. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You still didn't. Even if they make those cloacking things, it'll still be way too expensive to give to a soldier. Let alone a whole army. That's the problem.

You get it now?

GuZZ33
03-25-2010, 04:02 PM
You get it now?
Sort of i guess?. If you think of the technology today and go back not too far into the past, imagine telling folks that we have devices called cell phones for example or ssd drives etc etc, they might burn us at the stake http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. Expensive ..maybe?, but nano technology does not have to be that expensive really, and the future military/governmental powers will change over time in the future. technology will change, war will change, the enemy will change. I do personaly foresee a very high tech military uprising in the not too distant future.

DAFOC
03-25-2010, 10:00 PM
If you go to gametrailers.com and then to the GTTV section then to the videos on the side there will be video of the famous scienctist who name I cant spell (Dude on the science channel's Sci Fic Science) said that will have cloaks in a few decades and also Ive heard alot of people say the same thing.
(2057 anyone)

DAFOC
03-25-2010, 10:01 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/vi...-gttv-extended/63463 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/the-science-gttv-extended/63463)

REMORSELESS
03-26-2010, 01:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d4iQzFqaVQ


Wow. If this in any way accurately represents the way the game plays then the early comparisons to Crysis were just about spot on.

Definitely way too much emphasis on the "future" in "near-future". Should've gone with the near Ubi.

*Facepalm*

Mikudze
03-27-2010, 04:30 AM
First of all big LOL how console Future Solders forums have 12726 threads and PC version only 27. Lets be happy that there is still going to be a PC version. (because of this we will probably see a poorly done port of the console game)

Watched the trailer for the upcoming game and I think it is pretty cool where they are going with this, I welcome changes and I think it will make for a pretty cool gameplay, that was until I saw them shooting rockets from their backs , seriously lame! I can roll with all the future stuff, but lose the built in rocket launcher.

taiiat
03-27-2010, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Lennart_970:
However, with future soldier this opinion is pushed away a bit. After seeing the intro video with those ''cloacking carpets'' I get the idea that Ubisoft is pushing this Ghost Recon to the year 3400 AD...
I hope for their sakes they don't put cloaking ability in the game because there is no way they can make that in real life. And if they could.. it would cost a million dollars each. A soldiers life isn't worth that much to them so its still unrealistic.

be careful there. the dragonskin armor set is being integrated into the american military for soldiers - and it costs nearly a million a piece. to the military, lives have infinite value, so the vehicles get destroyed, UAV's, buildings, etc. - but as long as a soldier doesn't die, its worth it to them. supposedly.
granted, an active cloaking system is pretty radical - but it does fit the timeframe and story-line decently. and nothing's perfect anyways, so you'd likely be able to see a cloaked enemy if you were looking for him.
considering there are A.I./remote driven tanks, i think cloaking isnt too crazy.

unforunately, i'll haveto agree with you mikudze. because ubi is going to have this on the wii & 360, they will make it for the 360 (on PC's) first, then port that back to the PC, then make it for the PS3 & wii. never ceases to pain me that games are made for the consoles first - when its the PC's that have all the horsepower. so for us PC gamers, future warrior will look like **** - but it will look at the same level as the 360 - since that useless thing can't process anything better.

Lennart_970
03-27-2010, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by taiiat:

be careful there. the dragonskin armor set is being integrated into the american military for soldiers - and it costs nearly a million a piece. to the military, lives have infinite value, so the vehicles get destroyed, UAV's, buildings, etc. - but as long as a soldier doesn't die, its worth it to them. supposedly.
granted, an active cloaking system is pretty radical - but it does fit the timeframe and story-line decently. and nothing's perfect anyways, so you'd likely be able to see a cloaked enemy if you were looking for him.
considering there are A.I./remote driven tanks, i think cloaking isnt too crazy.

Remotely driven ''tanks'' (more like driving machine guns) are not futuristic at all! we've got UAV's and can also let tanks drive remotely. I mean.. how old is the remote toy car?

Dragon skinn armor is only being integrated on small scale. Special forces and a few other special teams (law enforcement). The reason they don't give every soldier the gear is because of its price and because its not the haviest armor. A lot of soldiers require more protection (and end up wearing thick metal plates). Its like a lot of projects: they get either canceled or being used on a VERY small scale (XM8 rifle is an example.. never made it to the battlefield).

Human lives are valuable, but that doesn't mean they can give every soldier million dollar armor.

And certainly not in financial position we currently are.

Lennart_970
03-27-2010, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by DAFOC:
If you go to gametrailers.com and then to the GTTV section then to the videos on the side there will be video of the famous scienctist who name I cant spell (Dude on the science channel's Sci Fic Science) said that will have cloaks in a few decades and also Ive heard alot of people say the same thing.
(2057 anyone)

wow there, don't take that too literely. Being able to make small boxes ''invisible'' is a long way from cloacking a moving human being.
How fast can it react to movement? Soldiers don't want to move just 10 feet an hour when trying to stay cloacked. Whats the energy usaged? Soldiers don't like an extra 30 pound battery on their back.

This guy is WAAAAAY to optimistic.

MiNeRvA.
03-29-2010, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by Mikudze:
First of all big LOL how console Future Solders forums have 12726 threads and PC version only 27. Lets be happy that there is still going to be a PC version. (because of this we will probably see a poorly done port of the console game)



There is a logical explanation for this which has been stated many times on the forums.

The GRAW forums for Console and PC were merged until very recently when they were renamed for GRFS and separated into PC and Console forums.

In doing this the Managers separated the most obvious threads from the first page (or 2) but did not go into depth.

That and the fact that people duplicate threads asking the same questions over and over are the only reasons there are more threads in the Console forum than in the PC one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dirtymurph
03-31-2010, 12:39 AM
lol nicely put.

Goodguy116
04-01-2010, 01:16 PM
the video reminds me of Robocop!

Tacamo
04-10-2010, 10:54 AM
Nothing wrong with having weapons and/or technology that might be in the near future but sometimes being over ambitious makes things look ridiculous later on. Kind of like Intel stating about 10 years ago how we'd have 10ghz processors right now. Amazing how most new processors ship at slower speeds than several years ago yet they're significantly better. It usually seems that whether it's done by a scholar, various industry specialists, film maker or game designer that future tech predictions are way off the mark unless no time frame is attached. Yet even still those aren't an accurate representation.

Plenty of high tech things that were studied, deigned prototyped, field tested and not adapted for a variety of reasons. Pretty much all aircraft with cannons have to still fly around with spent shell casings in an internal container. The original 1970's F-15A was supposed to bring 25mm caseless ammo to aircraft. Then the H&K G-11 that was supposed to be a caseless assault rifle adopted by the West German Army. Never happened and the tech was viable. Yet pretty much every small arm ejects brass casings 20 years give or take after the G11.

LordMelgoth
06-01-2010, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Lennart_970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by taiiat:

be careful there. the dragonskin armor set is being integrated into the american military for soldiers - and it costs nearly a million a piece. to the military, lives have infinite value, so the vehicles get destroyed, UAV's, buildings, etc. - but as long as a soldier doesn't die, its worth it to them. supposedly.
granted, an active cloaking system is pretty radical - but it does fit the timeframe and story-line decently. and nothing's perfect anyways, so you'd likely be able to see a cloaked enemy if you were looking for him.
considering there are A.I./remote driven tanks, i think cloaking isnt too crazy.

Remotely driven ''tanks'' (more like driving machine guns) are not futuristic at all! we've got UAV's and can also let tanks drive remotely. I mean.. how old is the remote toy car?

Dragon skinn armor is only being integrated on small scale. Special forces and a few other special teams (law enforcement). The reason they don't give every soldier the gear is because of its price and because its not the haviest armor. A lot of soldiers require more protection (and end up wearing thick metal plates). Its like a lot of projects: they get either canceled or being used on a VERY small scale (XM8 rifle is an example.. never made it to the battlefield).

Human lives are valuable, but that doesn't mean they can give every soldier million dollar armor.

And certainly not in financial position we currently are. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ummmm first, i want to say ghost recon is set in the NEAR FUTURE, so the financial position could have improved by then.

second, ghost recon is talking about a squad, not a whole fricking army

Lennart_970
06-01-2010, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by mecblade:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lennart_970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by taiiat:

be careful there. the dragonskin armor set is being integrated into the american military for soldiers - and it costs nearly a million a piece. to the military, lives have infinite value, so the vehicles get destroyed, UAV's, buildings, etc. - but as long as a soldier doesn't die, its worth it to them. supposedly.
granted, an active cloaking system is pretty radical - but it does fit the timeframe and story-line decently. and nothing's perfect anyways, so you'd likely be able to see a cloaked enemy if you were looking for him.
considering there are A.I./remote driven tanks, i think cloaking isnt too crazy.

Remotely driven ''tanks'' (more like driving machine guns) are not futuristic at all! we've got UAV's and can also let tanks drive remotely. I mean.. how old is the remote toy car?

Dragon skinn armor is only being integrated on small scale. Special forces and a few other special teams (law enforcement). The reason they don't give every soldier the gear is because of its price and because its not the haviest armor. A lot of soldiers require more protection (and end up wearing thick metal plates). Its like a lot of projects: they get either canceled or being used on a VERY small scale (XM8 rifle is an example.. never made it to the battlefield).

Human lives are valuable, but that doesn't mean they can give every soldier million dollar armor.

And certainly not in financial position we currently are. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ummmm first, i want to say ghost recon is set in the NEAR FUTURE, so the financial position could have improved by then.

second, ghost recon is talking about a squad, not a whole fricking army </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

about the financial thing: it means they can't realy spent money on projects NOW for use on the battlefield LATER. which means they won't have any advanced weapons in a few years because right now, we don't have the money to develop them.

About the squad thing and not the army: point given. But note that before avtualy using it in special operations, the regular soldiers will often have to use it first.

Ghost Recon set in the near future? I don't know if you've seen the trailer but some of that stuff will never be available in the near future http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

BSR_RuGGBuTT
06-02-2010, 06:57 PM
Thing is that Ghost Recon is (and always should be) about squad tactics. Fact of the matter is that even with all the new GPS gizmos that the military is using they still teach their soldiers how to use a compass and a map. GR should be about the basics, squad tactics and fighting. All this garbage with invisibility suits and remote robots might as well be Star Wars or BF2142 (which had the ghey BTW).

Lennart_970
06-03-2010, 06:57 AM
I very much agree with that BSR_RuGGBuTT. (Near!!! )future is alright.. but those wierd futuristic things are a disapointment.

Noccifer
06-07-2010, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by GuZZ33:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You get it now?
Sort of i guess?. If you think of the technology today and go back not too far into the past, imagine telling folks that we have devices called cell phones for example or ssd drives etc etc, they might burn us at the stake http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. Expensive ..maybe?, but nano technology does not have to be that expensive really, and the future military/governmental powers will change over time in the future. technology will change, war will change, the enemy will change. I do personaly foresee a very high tech military uprising in the not too distant future. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's funny, that's exactly what happened in Halo, in the events before the games.

But you know, 300-400 years in the future.

Yeah.

GuZZ33
06-14-2010, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by Noccifer:
snip/.
You make no sense ?.

GuZZ33
06-14-2010, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by BSR_RuGGBuTT:
compass and a map.
You want an amblers anorak with that?. There will be no need for a compass and map in the future military wars mate, imho.

Noccifer
06-14-2010, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by GuZZ33:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Noccifer:
snip/.
You make no sense ?. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't be any clearer than that.

Lennart_970
06-14-2010, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by GuZZ33:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BSR_RuGGBuTT:
compass and a map.
You want an amblers anorak with that?. There will be no need for a compass and map in the future military wars mate, imho. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very wrong. a compass will ALWAYS remain with the soldier. What else will you use when your satelite is destroyed, an EMP ruined your GPS, water got in and messed up the battery. Use the sun? that won't realy work in the middle of the day. and eventualy you'll lose track of where you are. And at night you'll only have the stars but the average soldier can't use those for navigation. That's why we've got the good old compass. I've spoken to a lot of soldiers (because I applied for the army) and they all say the compass will never disappear. besides: it bearly weighs anything

GuZZ33
06-14-2010, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Lennart_970:
What else will you use when your satelite is destroyed, an EMP ruined your GPS, water got in and messed up the battery.
Good old "situation awareness" or "dead reckoning" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I have a small round plastic cased compass somewhere, i don't hate them, hehe!.

apparently, or according to survival primer...

Effects of Metal and Electricity. Metal objects and electrical sources can affect the
performance of a compass.

The following separation distances are suggested to ensure proper functioning of
a compass:
High-tension power lines ........................................55 meters.
Field gun, truck, or tank ..........................................18 meters.
Telegraph or telephone wires and barbed wire .......10 meters.
Machine gun............................................... .............2 meters.
Steel helmet or rifle............................................. ....1/2 meter.

Accuracy. A compass in good working condition is very accurate. However, a
compass has to be checked periodically on a known line of direction, such as a surveyed
azimuth using a declination station. Compasses with more than 3į + variation should not be
used.

Just make sure everything is using or covered in kevlar and sling the Ghosts in the desert http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The only time i have actualy used or looked at a compass in a video game is when playing ArmA, and then i never used it much to be honest.

Lennart_970
06-14-2010, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by GuZZ33:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lennart_970:
What else will you use when your satelite is destroyed, an EMP ruined your GPS, water got in and messed up the battery.
Good old "situation awareness" or "dead reckoning" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I have a small round plastic cased compass somewhere, i don't hate them, hehe!.

apparently, or according to survival primer...

Effects of Metal and Electricity. Metal objects and electrical sources can affect the
performance of a compass.

The following separation distances are suggested to ensure proper functioning of
a compass:
High-tension power lines ........................................55 meters.
Field gun, truck, or tank ..........................................18 meters.
Telegraph or telephone wires and barbed wire .......10 meters.
Machine gun............................................... .............2 meters.
Steel helmet or rifle............................................. ....1/2 meter.

Accuracy. A compass in good working condition is very accurate. However, a
compass has to be checked periodically on a known line of direction, such as a surveyed
azimuth using a declination station. Compasses with more than 3į + variation should not be
used.

Just make sure everything is using or covered in kevlar and sling the Ghosts in the desert http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The only time i have actualy used or looked at a compass in a video game is when playing ArmA, and then i never used it much to be honest. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

eeh.. just to be clear.. did all that mean you agree with me although the toy has its flaws? :P

GuZZ33
06-14-2010, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Lennart_970:
eeh.. just to be clear.. did all that mean you agree with me although the toy has its flaws? :P
If you spoke to the real life soldiers and they want to keep their compasses then that's up to them i suppose.

Using a simple compass and a map in Ghost Recon Future Soldier i hope not, lol.

Noccifer
06-14-2010, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by GuZZ33:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lennart_970:
eeh.. just to be clear.. did all that mean you agree with me although the toy has its flaws? :P
If you spoke to the real life soldiers and they want to keep their compasses then that's up to them i suppose.

Using a simple compass and a map in Ghost Recon Future Soldier i hope not, lol. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm pretty sure military grade compasses have more EMF equalizing than a plastic toy you buy at the dollar store.

mslabolepszy
06-06-2011, 03:01 PM
Future Soldier: Please include campaign/ instant action missions like in GRAW2. Also Co-op terrorist hunt and instant action missions (mini campaign like in GRAW2) in comparison the special ops in MW2, as well as 4 player splitscreen. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

blueberry606
06-09-2011, 12:44 PM
GRFS is officialy 3rd person. What a waste.

darkghost1995
06-24-2011, 01:18 PM
talking about the future and the technology, can I ask why the bad guys still look like and have weapons as if they come from the 80's?

kalenath
06-24-2011, 06:14 PM
They bought their gear at 'Bad guys R Us' who had a sale on slightly used bad guy gear?

OR, they used the same weapon and gear images from Conviction, maybe with a minor reskin. I wonder if that WAS a SC3000 I saw one of the bad guys toting. Can't find the image now... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

AK series weapons are likely to be cheap and accessible for a LONG time to come, but... Meh...

JTF_AC_Sword_
07-22-2011, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by mecblade:
ummmm first, i want to say ghost recon is set in the NEAR FUTURE, so the financial position could have improved by then.

second, ghost recon is talking about a squad, not a whole fricking army

Funding of today will pay to outfit the military of the future. Well, keep defending this game because your American economy will not be funding Harry Potter invisibility cloaks any time soon with 14+ trillion in debt, looking at a second raise of the nat. debt since May and sinking 130+ billion in the hole every month. Don't hold your breath because you'll asphyxiate. Unless you want to sell Alaska to Canada, I'll bet your precious R&D budget excuse-to-defend-UBi will be cut. It's not that it's not possible; it's that it's not probable that well ever see it.

Originally posted by GuZZ33:
Sort of i guess?. If you think of the technology today and go back not too far into the past, imagine telling folks that we have devices called cell phones for example or ssd drives etc etc, they might burn us at the stake http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. Expensive ..maybe?, but nano technology does not have to be that expensive really, and the future military/governmental powers will change over time in the future. technology will change, war will change, the enemy will change. I do personaly foresee a very high tech military uprising in the not too distant future.
Ever heard of Project Horizon? It was a 1959 proposal to establish a military base on the Moon by 1967. The first landing would be carried out by two "soldier-astronauts" in 1965 and more construction workers would soon follow. Through numerous launches, 245 tonnes of cargo would be transported to the outpost by 1966. Everyone then thought a colony on the Moon was just a matter of a few years away. Don't believe me, ask your parents. Just donít put too much faith in what someone tells you they will do (you could lose a lot of money), take this as a life lesson.

The reason why bad buys look like they have weapons from the 80ís is because they have weapons from the 80ís. Did nobody learn about the cold war? Russia and the States were pumping out millions of small arms and many ended up in Africa and the Middle East; especially while the Soviets were fighting in Afghanistan for so many years. The US gave millions and arms to the Taliban and Bin Laden to fight the Russians! These weapons are in use now and will be still in use far into the future as there won't likely not be another Cold War to outfit the world's "Bad Guys".

So even I acknowledge all this is speculation. My guess on why nobody wants to accept ******ed invisibility cloaks is not because itís impossible, but because itís just stupid and is ruining a game and more importantly the GR franchise.