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johnnyB21990
09-08-2006, 10:34 PM
hi iwas wonderin if any bod can tell me wher i can buy a saitek x52 that not ebay or frys for cheap like under 70 bucks or sow also a cyborg evo force i fany body noww a cheap place to get both of those stick ok thanxhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
johnny

Taylortony
09-09-2006, 04:44 AM
You can actually buy a reconditioned X52 from saitek themselves for under your price ( just) see

http://saitekusa.stores.yahoo.net/recprod.html

and the cyborg force for less http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif on the above link

Pinker15
09-09-2006, 06:56 AM
Please dont buy this crappy stick. Its total unprecise and is unusefull for Il2 pacific fighters. I bought one lately and Im really unpleased. How they could do something like this for so high prize.

P.S. Its late serries X52 so please dont tell me its early serries problem.

AFJ_rsm
09-09-2006, 07:42 AM
its probably a late series problem
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Cajun76
09-09-2006, 01:47 PM
My X-52 works fine, but I have my profile set up for very small adjustents at high speed, since I favour a/c like the P-47 and Fw-190.

Try this Pinker:

X= 0 1 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 83 100
Y= 0 3 9 16 23 32 43 55 69 83 100

I think I also had to slightly widen the deadzone in the Saitek utility as well.

I don't like the twist stick, so I use the throttle off my old Thrustmaster Top Gun Afterburner because I like it's style of rocker bar rudder.

The best advice i can give for the original poster, is here: http://www.englishpage.com/ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Pinker15
09-09-2006, 02:10 PM
Sorry but no sliders setting can solve this. I was have earlier Saitek cyborg evo and X52 is no compare to cyborg evo. I have tested stick by joy tester and it shows everything. This stick is good for bomber pilots or P47 drivers so it suck totaly.

KaleunFreddie
09-09-2006, 02:38 PM
Here'd what to do...
Pick you fav plane and always use this plane as a reference.
Set up a single plane (yourself) in the quick mission builder.
Fly the plane, really crank it, adjusting your 'Hardware Input' profile until you're happy.

It may take a while with lot's of adjustments and re-assignments but you'll get there.
After doing this go up against a single AI opponent, gradually increasing opponents.
I've settled on a standard setting for years now and it works on all joysticks. I had seven of these
and my latest is an X52, and it works the same as my previous X45, Dogitek 2.4... etc.

With all the button assignments you have to work out senarios of flying and set your modes and key assignments.
For example .. Starting engine and take off can be set to 1 mode, cruising can have non-critical buttons. Engagements is where you need your critical buttons easily within reach and 'ergonomically placed'.

EG: Pov hat is for looking around, so gunsight button is place next to it. I'll never use them at the same time. The wide view button is next to the gunsight button. So it goes on....

G http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif ood Luck

NonWonderDog
09-09-2006, 02:52 PM
...My X-52 is in no way imprecise. It's twitchy enough that resting my hand on it too heavily with the deadzone off will register a 1% deflection or so. It's actually kind of annoying in X3, but I really hate deadzones.

Early X-52s had very excessive hardwired deadzones, but the one I have definitely does not have that problem.

Cajun76
09-09-2006, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Pinker15:
Sorry but no sliders setting can solve this. I was have earlier Saitek cyborg evo and X52 is no compare to cyborg evo. I have tested stick by joy tester and it shows everything. <span class="ev_code_RED">This stick is good for bomber pilots or P47 drivers so it suck totaly.</span>

Ah, so you just need a stick that can roll 90 degrees and pull back all the way....

This is probably better for your style:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/9264041161650351.jpg

Cajun76
09-09-2006, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by KaleunFreddie:
Here'd what to do...
Pick you fav plane and always use this plane as a reference.
Set up a single plane (yourself) in the quick mission builder.
Fly the plane, really crank it, adjusting your 'Hardware Input' profile until you're happy.

It may take a while with lot's of adjustments and re-assignments but you'll get there.
After doing this go up against a single AI opponent, gradually increasing opponents.
I've settled on a standard setting for years now and it works on all joysticks. I had seven of these
and my latest is an X52, and it works the same as my previous X45, Dogitek 2.4... etc.

With all the button assignments you have to work out senarios of flying and set your modes and key assignments.
For example .. Starting engine and take off can be set to 1 mode, cruising can have non-critical buttons. Engagements is where you need your critical buttons easily within reach and 'ergonomically placed'.

EG: Pov hat is for looking around, so gunsight button is place next to it. I'll never use them at the same time. The wide view button is next to the gunsight button. So it goes on....

G http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif ood Luck

That's exactly how I came up with mine. The Y axis curve is mostly for when I fly the Focke Wulf.

-HH- Beebop
09-09-2006, 05:53 PM
johnny;
I have an X-52 that I got after owning an X-45. (just wanted to upgrade).
I am VERY happy with the stick. The only negative I can think of is no force feedback, but since I never have flown with FFB, (except for when I tried my friends M$ FFB), I don't really miss it.
I find that the flexibility allowed with all the buttons/hats/rotaries and sliders keeps me off the keyboard and able to immerse myself in the flying.
Some say it's a cheaply made stick and won't hold up. Hogwash! Unless you slam your stick around it should last a good long time.
The last time I visited the Saitek site, (which by the way has an excellent support forum), they had reconditioned versions for around 70 USD. Mostly these are sticks that have cosmetic blemishes and can't be sold as "new".
Bang for Buck is 10 out of 10.

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-09-2006, 08:43 PM
Love my X-52 as well. I use it along with CH Pro Pedals. Upgraded from a Sidewinder Precision 2 which also was a great stick. (still have it btw and works like the day I bought it over 3 years ago)

Cajun76
09-09-2006, 08:50 PM
One thing I did do was tighten the spring by adding a small, thin piece of plastic where the spring enters the bottom of the handle. I found the stick too sensitive and the spring too light for my taste at first. I have the twist locked out, so I don't know how this would affect those who use it.

Divine-Wind
09-09-2006, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
Love my X-52 as well. I use it along with CH Pro Pedals. Upgraded from a Sidewinder Precision 2 which also was a great stick. (still have it btw and works like the day I bought it over 3 years ago)
Same story here, Havok, except for the dates and the pedals.

Pinker, all I can think of is that your particular stick may have been defective. Mine works perfectly (though I'm now using the FFB2 + throttle, instead of the X52 stick)

KaleunFreddie
09-10-2006, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by Cajun76:
One thing I did do was tighten the spring by adding a small, thin piece of plastic where the spring enters the bottom of the handle. I found the stick too sensitive and the spring too light for my taste at first. I have the twist locked out, so I don't know how this would affect those who use it.

I've taken my spring out - I like a floppy stick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif in my hand. This plus no axis filtering or dead-zones. It's such a pleasure to 'fly' a FW like this
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Pinker15
09-25-2006, 01:38 AM
Afther a while I found that lack of precise we can correct in some part by slider settings in game. Now I use this set posted below. Still is not so precise as cyborg evo before but at least can be. This is elevator with zero dead band and no filtering (47 50 54 59 65 71 78 85 92 99).

sparty7200
09-25-2006, 08:28 AM
Same here...What Beebop said! ^^^^^^^ no complaints!