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Haigotron
06-13-2006, 04:44 PM
is there a guide or a trick to accurately drop a bomb with a fighter for jabo?...

I can dive straight down, with 0 prop pitch, and it works fine, but pulling out sometimes is hard, and getting back up is harder

Secondly, with the il-2 specifically is there a way to low level bomb a target without diving?

Haigotron
06-13-2006, 04:44 PM
is there a guide or a trick to accurately drop a bomb with a fighter for jabo?...

I can dive straight down, with 0 prop pitch, and it works fine, but pulling out sometimes is hard, and getting back up is harder

Secondly, with the il-2 specifically is there a way to low level bomb a target without diving?

Bobsqueek
06-13-2006, 05:12 PM
get low. very low. at about 300 or so kph. then when the target goes below the nose drop the bomb.

thats the theory anyway, it just takes practice and lots of it. get low, and when it feels right drop it.

Haigotron
06-13-2006, 05:34 PM
cool!
thanx, i asssume by low you mean +/- 100m?

domenlovrec
06-13-2006, 05:58 PM
No, lower! 20m, but don't forget to set bomb delay (3s)!

Hashmark13
06-13-2006, 06:20 PM
Most of my fighter-bomber drops are below 10 meters. I'd say 80% of my bombs land in the target. It seems when the bombs hit an object, they just dissapear and land in the middle somewhere, then you've got the 3 seconds to get the hell out of there.

WTE_Galway
06-13-2006, 06:44 PM
just beware of targets that explode in a big way like trains full of ammunition

Rood-Zwart
06-13-2006, 07:18 PM
I always dive with a slight angle and release the bombs then the target passes the lowest edge of the sight. I hit around 7 out of 10 drops this way http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JamesBlonde888
06-13-2006, 08:57 PM
1) Remember to delay bomb by at least 4 secs

I find that I always hit bridges or convoys but never individual units by entering a shallow dive towards target from say 500m and releasing just a second or two after the target dissapears under the nose.

VW-IceFire
06-13-2006, 09:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Haigotron:
cool!
thanx, i asssume by low you mean +/- 100m? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Its not too low till your prop blade is scraping the target you just dropped on. With the IL-2 its best to get VERY close and personal. Set a bomb delay...fly at the target...say a tank (hit from behind)...drop the bomb...let the bomb skid into the back of the tank and fly away. Three seconds later boom...no tank. If you can do it against a small German tank you can drop bombs on virtually anything else.

With planes like the Tempest or Corsair...I tend to eyeball it from a 30 or 40 degree dive on target. Again...low altitude...drop bombs...pull out to level with the ground, slight rudder and aileron to throw the flak off, and away.

Haigotron
06-14-2006, 09:29 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif big thanx to all, I think i got it, low as possible with delayed bomb - check http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Now, I guess its all about practice, practice, practice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

*****As far as where the target is when it passes under the nose, do you look to align the target with the lower portion of the crosshair??*****

LEBillfish
06-14-2006, 09:58 AM
I myself often dive bomb in actuality, whether historical or not. Recently even, I was having stupendous success dive bombing from 5km in a Ki-61 by rolling over, diving straight down, lining up and by about 4.5km had released and started pull out.......

Yet as all are saying above, it really is a matter of practice especially low alt....Really just getting a feel for when to release when at "X" altitude/"Y" speed.......You'll find too often if you dive in to build speed, and drop very low leveling out before the drop....You can often take out a whole row of targets as the bomb seems to "sometimes" destroy them as it passes through each before exploding toward the rear.

Now, I could be wrong on the next part, as I may have been fragged by items blowing up from the bomb "stike" not explosion....Yet I could swear I've had bombs bounce up and hit my plane damaging it....The explosion coming much later. If so that would be very kewl, being real life (hence para-frags/demo's)....Guess something I need to Ntrk to check.

Anywho, you're saying it best in your reply..."Now, I guess its all about practice, practice, practice" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I_KG100_Prien
06-14-2006, 01:26 PM
The best way to get ordinance on target is to renounce the use of fighter aircraft entirely, and join the Mens Club.. I.E.. Fly bombers! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now that my sarcastic answer is out of the way..

I use the method that Billfish describes , which is a steep dive on the target with a high enough starting altitude to facilitate target aquisition, tracking, and accurate ordinance release.. With a nice clean pull out.

If you prefer the shallow dive from lower alts, the methods described by others work well too. The sweet spot is usually when the target gets just below your gunsight, or underneath your nose. It varies from plane to plane, and also your speed has to be consistant. Practice makes perfect as the silly little saying goes.

Haigotron
06-14-2006, 03:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Mens Club.. I.E.. Fly bombers </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was my initial attempt at bombing, and I LOVE IT, but i envy all those Jabos out there, and wanted to try it...

Dive bombing is my 1st love tho http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Haigotron
06-16-2006, 09:28 AM
ok, for the fighters, the above tactics are working beautifully!
Thanks all of you!

Now, the problem is with the il-2, if i follow the same pattern - (wait until target disappears below nose) then release, all of my bombs miss the target http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I assume, the nose of the sturmovik is too close to the cockpit to be used as reference?

I_KG100_Prien
06-16-2006, 09:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Haigotron:
ok, for the fighters, the above tactics are working beautifully!
Thanks all of you!

Now, the problem is with the il-2, if i follow the same pattern - (wait until target disappears below nose) then release, all of my bombs miss the target http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I assume, the nose of the sturmovik is too close to the cockpit to be used as reference? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Save tracks of your practice runs... When you view them go to the external view and watch where your bombs are landing from each release point that you try.

This will give you a pretty good idea where to adjust your release point. If you notice your bombs are overshooting, release earlier, or reduce your speed.... falling short, release later, or increase speed.. Simple http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

mandrill7
06-16-2006, 03:38 PM
Practice makes perfect.

If you can figure out FMB, make a simple mission with your kite, your target and a short approach run. Don't bother with take off or landing. Just set your waypoints at the appropriate alt. before and after the target.

Now put a static camera just WEST of the target. Bomb the target and as you release, hit pause. Then autopilot. Then ctrl-F2. Then unpause.

You will view your bombs falling while auto flies your plane off into the blue.

You missed? Hit re-fly and try again.