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Lurch1962
08-31-2007, 07:03 PM
I'm not able to fly online, myself. But just out of curiosity, do you on-liners use the phonetic alphabet at all when on the "radio?"

And which version? Specifically, do you use the current international standard, an older one appropriate to the times, or, God forbid, that awful one used by police forces (mainly in the 'States)?

Here's the current international one:

Alpha
Bravo
Charlie
Delta
Echo
Foxtrot
Golf
Hotel
India
Juliet
Kilo
Lima
Michael
November
Oscar
Papa
Quebec
Romeo
Sierra
Tango
Uniform
Victor
Whiskey
X-ray
Yankee
Zulu

--Lurch--

Jediteo
08-31-2007, 07:08 PM
it depends on the mood I'm in. On the more "hardcore" servers I usually use these phoenetics (though I though Makrel was for M)
Also the use of "keypad" numbers are good for signaling where in the square, works better than saying somewhere in the middle, less is more in this case

nickdanger3
08-31-2007, 07:13 PM
After having seen Hot Shots I feel too self conscious. I'm always tempted to make up stuff:

"Roger. Will search for bogies in Wango Tango Weasel Diesel"

BrotherVoodoo
08-31-2007, 07:24 PM
I use it 99% of the time.

Bearcat99
08-31-2007, 07:36 PM
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Lemky
08-31-2007, 07:41 PM
who is Michael,Mike is my Bud

Grand_Armee
08-31-2007, 09:51 PM
I use it when I'm not swearing. Otherwise...I'm swearing.

Gumtree
08-31-2007, 10:37 PM
M = Mike http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Flying_Mex
08-31-2007, 10:54 PM
I use them with my squad when no one is around watching...believe me, 1 time of having a friend of your brother hearing ya and freaking her out to the point that she thinks you are crazy is enough to not repeat the same mistake :P

Waldo.Pepper
08-31-2007, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Grand_Armee:
I use it when I'm not swearing. Otherwise...I'm swearing.

Since you brought it up ... I sometimes am just the opposite.

=====

I remember in Falcon when you tried to tell your AI wingman to do something dumb like to descend into the ground he would reply; Kilo Mike Alpha.

Also I saw today there is a book about Iraq called - Whisky Tango Foxtrot.

Clever people out there.

Deedsundone
09-01-2007, 12:45 AM
Pick your country and use it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
http://montgomery.cas.muohio.edu/MEYERSDE/kitchensink/alphabets/index.html

Matz0r
09-01-2007, 01:47 AM
I do always, but only this one:

"Adam, Bertil, Cesar, David, Erik, Filip, Gustav, Helge, Ivar, Johan, Kalle, Ludvig, Martin, Niklas, Olof, Petter, Qvintus, Rudolf, Sigurd, Tore, Urban, Viktor, Wilhelm, Xerxes, Yngve, Zäta, Åke, Ärlig, Östen"

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GIAP.Shura
09-01-2007, 02:40 AM
What, like this?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/IPA_consonants_2005.png

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Fireball_
09-01-2007, 07:05 AM
One day when I was in the Air Force, when we had some downtime, we set out to make the most confusing and useless phonetic alphabet possible. I've forgotten some of them, but it was something like:

A - are
B - bee
C - cereal
D
E - earn
F
G - gnome
H
I - inn
J - jay
K - know
L
M - mnemonic
N - no
O - one
P - pneumatic
Q
R
S - serial
T - tsunami
U - urn
V
W - why
X - xylophone
Y - you
Z

GIAP.Shura
09-01-2007, 07:27 AM
You should have used mhairi for M.

Foo.bar
09-01-2007, 07:32 AM
We use the (pre 45) german one:

A - Anton
Ä - Ärger
B - Berta
C - Cäsar
Ch - Charlotte
D - Dora
E - Emil
F - Friedrich
G - Gustav
H - Heinrich
I - Ida
J - Julius
K - Konrad (today: Kaufmann)
L - Ludwig
M - Martha
N - Nordpol
O - Otto
Ö - Ödipus (today: Ökonom)
P - Paula
Q - Quelle
R - Richard
S - Siegfried (today: Samuel)
Sch - Schule
T - Theodor
U - Ullrich
ü - übermut
V - Viktor
W - Wilhelm
X - Xantippe
Y - Ypsilon
Z - Zeppelin (today: Zacharias)

F16_Neo
09-01-2007, 08:04 AM
Quite useful actually.
Had both the Swedish and international taped up on the monitor until I learned them.
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han freak solo
09-01-2007, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by Deedsundone:
Pick your country and use it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
http://montgomery.cas.muohio.edu/MEYERSDE/kitchensink/alphabets/index.html

I can see why the Brits dropped this one. Friggin' Monkey Nuts! They never got any communication going.

"English
British Armed Forces (1927)
Ack, Beer, Charlie, Don, Edward, Freddy, George, Harry, Ink, Johnnie, King, London, Monkey, Nuts, Orange, Pip, Queen, Robert, Sugar, Toc, Uncle, Vic, William, X-ray, Yorker, Zebra "

Divine-Wind
09-01-2007, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grand_Armee:
I use it when I'm not swearing. Otherwise...I'm swearing.

Since you brought it up ... I sometimes am just the opposite.

=====

I remember in Falcon when you tried to tell your AI wingman to do something dumb like to descend into the ground he would reply; Kilo Mike Alpha.

Also I saw today there is a book about Iraq called - Whisky Tango Foxtrot.

Clever people out there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Stew278
09-01-2007, 09:50 AM
On comms? Heck, I use it at work sometimes. The majority of my coworkers speak English as a second language and sometimes it is really hard to understand them.

People do kind of look at you weird when you say 'niner' instead of nine or you give times in military time. My goal before I graduate is to convince everyone in my lab to enter their times in the log book using the 24 hour clock.



Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:

I remember in Falcon when you tried to tell your AI wingman to do something dumb like to descend into the ground he would reply; Kilo Mike Alpha.



I think it also said Alpha Mike Foxtrot sometimes when you'd shoot an enemy down. And in Falcon 4.0 the AI pilot says Foxtrot Uniform when they get hit.

Hmm, maybe I should try that instead of swearing at work, might get me in less trouble.

MEGILE
09-01-2007, 09:53 AM
Sierra Hotel

Divine-Wind
09-01-2007, 02:23 PM
Hotels are Sierra Hotel.

SeaFireLIV
09-01-2007, 03:31 PM
I use it less than I should. I often use normal letters letter `AL`-4 and when someone says, "AN-4?" I`ll quickly change to Alpha Lima 4...

It`s amazing how many times I don`t use that alphabet the first time.

That kitten looks rather cosy... too cosy.

Viper2005_
09-01-2007, 04:06 PM
I use it when I fly IRL so it seems silly not to use it when I fly online.

I don't mess about with vintage versions because it just adds another opportunity for me to make a mistake. As an agnostic I try my best not to rely upon the effectiveness of Shepard's prayer!

And M is Mike, not Michael as has probably already been pointed out...

BrotherVoodoo
09-01-2007, 07:13 PM
One day when I was in the Air Force, when we had some downtime, we set out to make the most confusing and useless phonetic alphabet possible. I've forgotten some of them, but it was something like:

A - are
B - bee
C - cereal
D
E - earn
F
G - gnome
H
I - inn
J - jay
K - know
L
M - mnemonic
N - no
O - one
P - pneumatic
Q
R
S - serial
T - tsunami
U - urn
V
W - why
X - xylophone
Y - you
Z

LMAO!!!!! Nice.

DuxCorvan
09-02-2007, 06:02 AM
Oscar Tango: Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform

general_kalle
09-02-2007, 06:08 AM
i think that the only purpose is to say a word starting with the letter you wish for so that there can be no misunderstanding.
for example in Z and C.
instead you say Charlie or Zebra.

it doesnt matter which word it is, just its starting with the correkt word.

by the way, ever heard the song by Blood hound gang called Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo?

look at the Lyrics, good song and really funny.

BSS_CUDA
09-02-2007, 06:29 AM
after 4 years spent on the bridge of a ship while in the Navy its how I learned to communicate. no mistakes that way.

(plane 1) I have Multiple contacts 15,000 feet in B 3
(plane 2) was that E 3??
(plane 1) no B 3
(plane 2) P 3 ?????
(plane 1) NO DAMN IT B 3
(plane 2) Roger T 3 15,000 feet. on my way

When someone on comms tries to use Phonetics and makes it up as they go along it irritates the hell out of me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif I have no idea why either, its been 25 years since I was discharged. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Skoshi Tiger
09-02-2007, 08:21 AM
My wife is really anoying.

She used to work in the airlines booking office and every time she gets on the phone she uses the phonetics alphabet to spell things out.

BillyTheKid_22
09-02-2007, 05:55 PM
http://www.learn-lessons.spirita.net/images/sign-language-alphabet.gif



American alphabet sign



http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/5/54/Bimanual_alphabet.jpg



British alphabet sign



http://farm1.static.flickr.com/176/441793869_af517aef5a.jpg




Russian alphabet sign

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif I know different sign language!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DuxCorvan
09-03-2007, 12:15 AM
Spanish Alphabet, Billy: http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://sid.usal.es/idocs/F8/FDO9173/COMUNICACION_Y_PARTICIPACION_SOCIAL/COMUNICACION_Y_PARTICIPACION_SOCIAL_archivos/image002.jpg

Whirlin_merlin
09-03-2007, 12:29 AM
Following on from Stew's 'niner' comment, niner and fife are easier to recognise clearly than nine and five. But TBH the quality of voive comms over teh net is such that it's not really needed, or the phonetic alphabet. Now on an HF set in the small hours when the ionoshpere's bggred off, thats a different story.

Capt.LoneRanger
09-03-2007, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by BSS_CUDA:
after 4 years spent on the bridge of a ship while in the Navy its how I learned to communicate. no mistakes that way.

(plane 1) I have Multiple contacts 15,000 feet in B 3
(plane 2) was that E 3??
(plane 1) no B 3
(plane 2) P 3 ?????
(plane 1) NO DAMN IT B 3
(plane 2) Roger T 3 15,000 feet. on my way

When someone on comms tries to use Phonetics and makes it up as they go along it irritates the hell out of me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif I have no idea why either, its been 25 years since I was discharged. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif


I've been in the German Navy for only one year, radar operator and tactical navigations. Honestly, when I hear those folks just making up names instead of using the common NATO-alphabet or not understand what Romeo Niner is, I feel like in a kindergarten.

Can't be too much effort to learn these few names and get a whole lot more immersion into the game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

BillyTheKid_22
09-03-2007, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Spanish Alphabet, Billy: http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://sid.usal.es/idocs/F8/FDO9173/COMUNICACION_Y_PARTICIPACION_SOCIAL/COMUNICACION_Y_PARTICIPACION_SOCIAL_archivos/image002.jpg



Howdy!! Thanks!! Cool!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



http://pages.slc.edu/~ebj/IM_97/Lecture15/Swedish_alphabet.gif



Swedish alphabet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Lurch1962
09-03-2007, 07:30 PM
The fanatic alphabet:

(Off the cuff, with little forethought. Feel free to augment/improve; I'm sure y'all can do better. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif )

Allah
Bomber
Christian
Detonator
Explosive
Fire
Grenade
H
Infidel
Jihad
Kill
L
Missile
Nuclear
Oppress
Poison
Quran
Raid
Suicide
Torture
Uzi
Victory
Weapon
X
Yankee
Zionist

danjama
09-03-2007, 07:36 PM
this will probably be locked now but oh well

general_kalle
09-04-2007, 09:44 AM
H - Hell...or Heaven.

L - Looser

S - Spitfire

M - Messerschmidt...or Mustang

Y - Yak

etc.

DuxCorvan
09-04-2007, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by general_kalle:
L - Looser


I love loose women. They are always with some dirty-faced guy with a hat. That must be their 'looser'.