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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 12:37 AM
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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 12:37 AM
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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 12:40 AM
WOW!

-dolfo

Ja te atendo, Tche!

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 12:41 AM
Thx a lot Gibbage /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ... the model looks perfect. (And as we can see, the Do335 isn't cursed ... your harddrive is still running /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif ).

Thx for modeling one of my favourites /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif , the cockpit is waiting on you /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif .
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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 12:41 AM
Just awesome!

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 12:46 AM
Eh couldn`t you model FW190D12 or make really useful stuff?That`s only a DF server aircraft.

"degustibus non disputandum"

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 12:49 AM
carguy_ wrote:
- Eh couldn`t you model FW190D12 or make really useful
- stuff?That`s only a DF server aircraft.

The Do-335 would be VERY useful for the Luft '46 add-on....

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 12:52 AM
Hey,
Too bad about the polys. You think Oleg will let it pass? How many can you shave off that model? Will there be a pit so it's flyable?

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 01:00 AM
UR_Spinne wrote:
- Hey,
- Too bad about the polys. You think Oleg will let
- it pass? How many can you shave off that model? Will
- there be a pit so it's flyable?


Since there's TWO engines,can't the poly limit be higher? I'd love it to be flyable,but we all know how Gib deplores doing cockpits....

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 01:18 AM
carguy_ wrote:
- Eh couldn`t you model FW190D12 or make really useful
- stuff?That`s only a DF server aircraft.
-
- "degustibus non disputandum"
-
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- <center><a href=http://www.jzg23.de><font
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S!
Also the D11

it would be great =]

great gib

carguy_ wrote:
- Eh couldn`t you model FW190D12 or make really useful
- stuff?That`s only a DF server aircraft.
-
- "degustibus non disputandum"
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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 01:29 AM
Is Gib in a race to finish the most planes the fastest! he does this stuff well and fast!!

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 01:34 AM
necrobaron wrote:
- The Do-335 would be VERY useful for the Luft '46
- add-on....


Completely useless to me.That plane or P80 will show up in VEF/VOW.

Geez ppl could make cockpitsfor unflyable planes but noooooooo.

"degustibus non disputandum"

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 01:38 AM
Then try to find a other 3d modeller for the cockpits, there are enough out there.

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 01:52 AM
You whiney little baby. I wish I could use some choice 4 letter words on the UBI forum to describe you. As it is, I need to keep it to a minimul THRASHING or I get locked just like anyone else. You dont understand SQUAT about modeling, or adding to this comunity. You only subtract from the comunity! The situation is this, everything unflyable is eather 1, taken by a modeler, 2, finished and will be released soon, or 3, not enough data to model it. Im SICK AND TIRED of crying little baby's like you who hoot and holler when there favorite aircraft is not modeld and who get upset when they see progress on aircraft they dont like!

The truth is simple. There is NOTHING LEFT to model other then these late war aircraft. OLEG asked us to MODEL LATE WAR AIRCRAFT up till 1947!!!! You have NO openion in this situation that means a damn thing, and me typing to you is a waist of MY time that I could be spending doing something else like say a P-38, P-63, PBY Catalina, or a Do-335. If you had half a braincell left in your head you would realize "Ow, wow. 3/4's of those aircraft Gibbage is working on ARE important, and maybe I should shut up".

Its MY time that I am donating, not yours. I will decide what I do and don't do, not you. If you actually provided anything what so ever to this comunity other then a few peaces of ill-worded text, I may have cared about your openion, but I truly DONT.

Nuff said.

Gib

carguy_ wrote:
- necrobaron wrote:
-- The Do-335 would be VERY useful for the Luft '46
-- add-on....
-
-
- Completely useless to me.That plane or P80 will show
- up in VEF/VOW.
-
- Geez ppl could make cockpitsfor unflyable planes but
- noooooooo.
-
- "degustibus non disputandum"


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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 02:02 AM
Excellent model Gibbage! I just hope the programmers give it a suitable flight model. The CFS3 Do335 is a very unimpressive combat aircraft, hopefully Oleg will make it worth having. Normally, I am not in favor of adding late-war models such as the Do335 which were not truly operational, but nobody seems to object to Russian rocket planes and all the other experimental LaGG and Mig subtypes included with this game, so maybe the Do335, Ho229, He162, P-80 et al are not such a bad idea after all.

cruelsword
08-23-2003, 02:06 AM
Jeeeeeez, nice work, man. Thank you.

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 02:14 AM
Truth be told, Oleg asked the modelers to build late war aircraft that "at least flew before 1947" because whe were running out of aircraft to model. Thats why I started modelign the P-80 and Go-229. Before that, I wanted to model the He-219, or the Hs-129 but they were both taken. Unfortunatly about 70% of the models that were taken were dropped. Only a few modelers finished and this opened up a slew of models after I was nearly complete with the Go-229 and P-80. Once I got those two finished, I took the P-38 and P-63 that were dropped, and again, the rest are taken. Me modeling late war aircraft was not by choice, but by oppertunity. Oleg wanted them, and nothing else was left. Do the math. Now for people like the guy above to come down on me for my "choice" just ticks me off. Its not JUST my choice here. Its my situation, influanced by Oleg's choice.

Gib

zoomar wrote:
Normally,
- I am not in favor of adding late-war models such as
- the Do335 which were not truly operational, but
- nobody seems to object to Russian rocket planes and
- all the other experimental LaGG and Mig subtypes
- included with this game, so maybe the Do335, Ho229,
- He162, P-80 et al are not such a bad idea after all.
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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 02:22 AM
Hehe Gibbage I see you`ve blown your top.You have a problem with taking other`s opinions into account.Tells much about you.



Sure,I don`t give a damn about you or your work.I`m however entitled to express my opinion.Period.



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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 02:23 AM
I appreciate the explanation and understand your situation completely, Gibbage. Besides, it's really ridiculous for anybody to complain about people with your talent helping us out.

Don't take this wrong, though, I'd give my two front teeth for a WW1, Spanis Civil War or Sino-Japanese addon instead of "luft '46", but I guess folks with my interests are just a minority.

THanks

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 02:23 AM
give em hell Gib maybe just maybe they will shut there traps or get into modeling themselves

But there are always whiners about everything



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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 02:39 AM
We should all be thankful Gibbage is taking the time to model these aircraft for us. Stop whining.

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 02:39 AM
I'm not a LW pilot, but I don't care. I can't wait to fly it. Beautiful Gibbage.

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 02:44 AM
Gib, there are some guys here that are experts at scaring talented and dedicated ppl away(Oleg, Cartrix, etc). Don't let them get in your nerves /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
You are doing an awesome, admirable work. I wanna be like you when I grow up!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
Keep it up!

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 02:49 AM
carguy_ wrote:
- Hehe Gibbage I see you`ve blown your top.You have a
- problem with taking other`s opinions into
- account.Tells much about you.
-
-
-
- Sure,I don`t give a damn about you or your work.I`m
- however entitled to express my opinion.Period.
-
-
-


So am I, you're a (let's play a new game and move the character set one letter forward for the following words)
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Message Edited on 08/22/0306:23PM by zholudev

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 03:05 AM
The man is unstopable !!!

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 03:17 AM
I think a WWI addon would be great. I dont know much about Spanish Civil War or anything just pre-WWI. But Oleg never asked for any of that. He asked for late war. Im just fillin the bill http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Your openion is more then welcome because you post it with a little bit of education besides the typical flamer "Whaaaa, I dont want it". How is the WWI stuff going anyways? I have not been keeping track of it.

Gib

zoomar wrote:
- I appreciate the explanation and understand your
- situation completely, Gibbage. Besides, it's really
- ridiculous for anybody to complain about people with
- your talent helping us out.
-
- Don't take this wrong, though, I'd give my two front
- teeth for a WW1, Spanis Civil War or Sino-Japanese
- addon instead of "luft '46", but I guess folks with
- my interests are just a minority.
-
- THanks
-
-



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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 03:21 AM
FARPHUGNUGEN!!!

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 03:35 AM
I see Carguy's showing his petulant schoolboy ignorance again. Big surprise. I wonder if he realizes what an embarrassment he is to himself here or reads his own posts but I would guess probably not since ignorance is bliss. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Anyway, good gib Job...er, good job Gib! Before you let the losers get your goat just remind yourself what they've contributed to the community. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif





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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 03:46 AM
Very nice /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 04:58 AM
I never cease to be amazed at the pure,unadulterated arrogance of some people here on the boards! I genuinely hope that these "babies" don't shoo away the remainder of the "good folks"(Gib,for one). I for one am VERY grateful for Gibbage's work.....jeez....

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 05:15 AM
There are still lots of planes from IL2 days that are not flyable. What about the MC202 and I.A.R?? And the whole slew of PE-2 types. Not to mention the H.S-129, the LI-2, the French fighters, the IL-4 and UV-2 just to name a few. We know they'll never model the PE-8, but there should be enough pictures of the other cockpits someone should be able to make them. Is anybody working on any of these cockpits??

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 05:19 AM
I think people are doing pits for the MC202 and the I.A.R.s. I'm not sure about the others....

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 05:37 AM
Just how fast was that beast? I mean, you gots 2-engine power with a one-engine aerodynamics . . .

armament? energy retention? and (the all important for german fighters with their dive and zoom tactics) break-up speed? I loves it.


It is an ugly plane, but I bet it will be a real joy to fly. Any cockpit in the works? I wish i could help, but i'm only a poor modeler.

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 05:39 AM
Gibbage, you are a true artist. Hey, carguy, Gibbage is cranking out the fine quality planes left and right because he's between jobs. Someday, soon I hope, he'll land a job and the addon aircraft will come to a halt.

Maybe when the next patch comes out it will work on everyones machine "but" carguys.

A.H.

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 05:40 AM
IAR is already done. But the Pe-2 and Hs 129 are open and there is plenty of data for both.

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 06:24 AM
Allegedly,the Do-335 was the fastest-prop driven aircraft of the war. It's an extremely well-balanced plane. It could even take off with only one of the engines operating,which is incredible considering the "dead weight" of the other engine. It's an awesome bird....

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 06:53 AM
Gib,

Are you accepting donations to make the Do 335A-1 flyable ??

Sign me up!

This is great news!!!!

Please post your needs. We will deliver.

Do 217P

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 06:57 AM
Hs-129 cockpit was taken by LukeFF, which is great news.


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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:00 AM
Mc 202 is done. IAR done. Hs-129 taken by the same guy who did the He-162. Pe-2 no cockpit data, and same for the IL-4. Never heard of the LI-2 or the UV-2. Pe-8 will never be flyable.

mortoma wrote:
- There are still lots of planes from IL2 days that
- are not flyable. What about the MC202 and I.A.R??
- And the whole slew of PE-2 types. Not to mention the
- H.S-129, the LI-2, the French fighters, the IL-4 and
- UV-2 just to name a few. We know they'll never model
- the PE-8, but there should be enough pictures of the
- other cockpits someone should be able to make them.
- Is anybody working on any of these cockpits??
-
- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
- little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
- safety." Benjamin Franklin - 1755
-
-



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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:04 AM
Gibbage your a machine /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I cant wait to fly this one it should be a hoot when we get the B17 to hunt.

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:04 AM
If you want, sure! Use the PBY link and just fill in that its for the Do-335. But I am sure the Do is going into a pay add-on. Oleg has been sick for the last two weeks and he has not yet given me the go on the project. I dont know if it will be in the game or not, or if its free or not.

Gib

do217s wrote:
- Gib,
-
- Are you accepting donations to make the Do 335A-1
- flyable ??
-
- Sign me up!
-
- This is great news!!!!
-
- Please post your needs. We will deliver.
-
- Do 217P
-
-



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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:05 AM
Gibbage1 wrote:
- Mc 202 is done. IAR done. Hs-129 taken by the same
- guy who did the He-162. Pe-2 no cockpit data, and
- same for the IL-4. Never heard of the LI-2 or the
- UV-2. Pe-8 will never be flyable.

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:10 AM
Gibbage1 wrote:Never heard of the LI-2 or the
- UV-2.

The Li-2 is a Lend-Lease C-47/DC-3(you know,"Band of Brothers") and the UV-2/Po-2 is that little Russian recon/light bomber bi-plane. Supposedly had great flight handling....


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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:12 AM
Storch will be very nice too. But what I'll like the most are some more bombers like Ju-388 and Do-217. Do-217 is being made by Halfwitt but I don't think he is planning a cockpit. Also a cockpit for He-177 will be fantastic, and there is plenty of info for it.
Also it seems that A-26 and B-26 are forgotten.

If someone wants to model Tu2 I have cockpit drawings from the manual. You can get the geometry pretty well.


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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:23 AM
OK Gib,

You should get my cash donation for a flyable Do 335A-1 shortly, even if it is only in a pay add-on. Although you have been putting too much of your skills into US stuff (in my opinion), you have a good soul......now, if Snorri & Doorgunner could only convince you to do a finish off the He 100D-1.......just as the one at the museum near your home....:-) Oleg has flight data & cockpit info for this bird......

Thanks,

Do 217P

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:46 AM
Gibbage1 wrote:
- Check out the screen shots at http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/46.html
-
- Enjoy!

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 10:04 AM
Gibbage1 wrote:
- I think a WWI addon would be great. I dont know
- much about Spanish Civil War or anything just
- pre-WWI. But Oleg never asked for any of that. He
- asked for late war. Im just fillin the bill http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
- Your openion is more then welcome because you post
- it with a little bit of education besides the
- typical flamer "Whaaaa, I dont want it". How is the
- WWI stuff going anyways? I have not been keeping
- track of it.
-
- Gib

Gibbage first of all the p80, go229 and do335 look perfect and cant wait to fly them but was just wondering have you thought of modeling vampire or meteor?

Or are they in the pipeline somewhere already by yourself or a different modeler, would give anything for those two AC in FB.....

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 10:14 AM
Gib, there're always the A-36 and the B-26 I can't finish!

Cheers,

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 10:48 AM
Very, VERY NICE!!

I wish i even could get the plane thingies right /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 11:47 AM
Can't believe what I'm reading!!!

This made my day Gibbage, I'm writing to the swedish king and applying for a knighthood on your behalf. Sir Gibb, knight of the modellers /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Seriously this is great news. Thx a lot for your work, it's very appreciated!

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 11:58 AM
Outstanding. One more reason to throw my CFS3 disks in the trash and burn the manual. The plane add-on, as long as your work is included, will be the #1 add-on for any sim. Ever.


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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 12:12 PM
Well the model looks great as usual Gibbage. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I am one of those that care very little for the "what-if" planes, although I recognise that group is the minority. I also know that Oleg is a big fan of these "what-if" planes from previous exchanges I had with him regarding WWI planes, of which he's not so passionate. To each his own though...right?

I was surprised to read in your post however that every other plane modell was taken by a modeller? Wow..that's good news to me!

I am curious about that though, as you are more in the know than me, maybe you can confirm that by looking at the list below?

Bloch MB.152
Boulton Paul Defiant
Bristol Beaufighter
CAC Boomerang
Mosquito
Dornier Do 217J/N
Douglas P-70/DB-7 Havoc
Fairey Fulmar
Fairey Firefly
Fiat G.55 Centauro
Gloster Meteor I/III
Grumman F4F/F6F Wildcat
Hawker Typhoon
Northrop P-61 Black Widow
Westland Whirlwind


I didn't list the dozen or more Japanese planes, although I guess it would be logical to do so now that we are getting the Frank and the Zero.

Anyway's I think a modeller should be allowed to do whatever he wants, so long as Oleg has given the green light to it's inclusion in the game. No matter if I, or anyone else is in love with their choice.

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 12:58 PM
Hi ,

I don't read this often since I don't like sifting through the garbage. I really enjoy this game and really appreciate the people that put their time and efforts into expanding and improving the game. This said, I will be happy to be shotdown in any thing you give me. If you give me a VW Beetle with wings I will be greatful, surprised but greatful.
Just wanted to say thank you to all those that have done so much and that I hope a few bad apples won't discourage you. Vielen Dank

Franzen(Luftwaffe)

fluke39
08-23-2003, 02:01 PM
1) Excellent model (again) gibbage - i have to hand it to - i think you have a work rate of about 5 planes to others 1 (or 0 as seems to be the case with alot of others /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif )

2)i to am intrigued by what you say - all other planes are taken - do you mean eastern front or - all fronts? - not wanting to doubt your word but the must have been hundreds and hundreds of planes of all nationalities in WW2? on my bookshelf i have many Aircraft of WW11 type books - i only have 1 which covers only one nation in depth- (britain) and that must have around 100. so if we roughly say each nation had about 100(maybe more maybe less) surely they all can't be modelled-


3)necrobaron wrote:

- The Li-2 is a Lend-Lease C-47/DC-3(you know,"Band of
- Brothers") and the UV-2/Po-2 is that little Russian
- recon/light bomber bi-plane. Supposedly had great
- flight handling....


IIRC the LI-2 was a licence built russian C47(not lend lease) alot differing only by an added turret.

anyhoo good model gibbage - can't wait to see it fly /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 04:31 PM
Is Oleg going to put these aircraft in another addon or in an expansion pack? Did hey tell you why he wanted them?

Also was the Do-335 ever used in combat?

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 05:15 PM
I really appreciate so much all that you modellers are doing. It's great, and I think that all of us are going to benefit from you effort. I'm an aviation fan since a baby, and my father was too.

I've been making scale kits since 1975 and I've always dreamt of taking a ride on them. So I like EVERYTHING you do, don't matter what the plane is, all of them are wonderful.

Now I'm running my old copy of SWOTL. My USB joystick just doesn't work with it, but I take a look at the missions and then I look into the FMB in FB... You make me dream, lad. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 05:36 PM
That thing is FUGLY.

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 05:40 PM
WOW !

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 05:50 PM
rcorporon wrote:
- That thing is FUGLY.

Quite true. But there was little chance than Do-335 would have entered in mass production the way it was. Most probably it would have looked like this:


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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 05:53 PM
you have to get used to the looks, but then they rock. very nice work... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 06:05 PM
is this going to be for that payware addon luft 46?

your modeling is excellent as always gib and glad to see another plane in fb, but just rather see more ac that actually seen significant combat ps never make the x55 or the il2 cfs3 similiarities will be joked about http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif




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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:23 PM
Kudos Gib.

As usual, fantastic stuff.

BTW At what stage is the PBY at? I haven't heard anything about her for a while.

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It's only funny til someone loses an eye....then it's hilarious

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:26 PM
Dubbo2 wrote:
-
- It's only funny til someone loses an eye....then
- it's hilarious

I thought it went like this "It's funny until someone loses and eye.. then it's hilarious"



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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 07:35 PM
tagert wrote:

- I thought it went like this "It's funny until
- someone loses and eye.. then it's hilarious"


My Dad used to say,
"It's only funny til someone loses an eye" all the time.
It WAS funny because it was never in the proper context. Someone would tell a joke and he would laugh and say his line. It just stuck. I have no idea what the original saying is/was. I added the last bit because someone on this forum suggested it.

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It's only funny til someone loses an eye....then it's hilarious

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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 02:33 AM
Pvt_Roger wrote:
- Bristol Beaufighter
- Gloster Meteor I/III
- Hawker Typhoon
- Northrop P-61 Black Widow
- Westland Whirlwind

In the order of the above

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/26.html
http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/38.html
http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/32.html
http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/7.html
http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/51.html

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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 02:53 AM
Maj_Death wrote:
- IAR is already done. But the Pe-2 and Hs 129 are
- open and there is plenty of data for both.

Here i go, I haven't read all the posts, but I've seen MajDeath post about IAR cockpits being ready, so could someone give more details?
There seem to be nothing about that in the dev.update, so,...I'm still blank...
Thanks.

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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 03:23 AM
pretty damn nice!

Keep it up man...

XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 03:37 AM
IAR 80 and 81 are done, flyable, and ready for release. I even flew it a few months ago.

As for Maj_Death, Hs 129 is being worked on by LukeFF, and I still dont see any cockpit info for the Pe-2 let alone gunner positions. Hard, aint it?

Gib

Von_Zero wrote:
-
- Maj_Death wrote:
-- IAR is already done. But the Pe-2 and Hs 129 are
-- open and there is plenty of data for both.
-
- Here i go, I haven't read all the posts, but I've
- seen MajDeath post about IAR cockpits being ready,
- so could someone give more details?
-
- There seem to be nothing about that in the
- dev.update, so,...I'm still blank...
-
- Thanks.
-
-

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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 03:42 AM
Gribb you flew it?!?!?!!!??!
that means Oleg gaved(or showed )to you planes from the next addon????
That means that the code and the entirely addon is about to be ready(read released)?
Sorry for insisting, but I'm so happy....

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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 03:45 AM
carguy_ wrote:
- Hehe Gibbage I see you`ve blown your top.You have a
- problem with taking other`s opinions into
- account.Tells much about you.
-
-
-
- Sure,I don`t give a damn about you or your work.I`m
- however entitled to express my opinion.Period.

To carguy:

And you are in idiot PERIOD. How's that for an opinion?
He has worked his a$$ off for this community and all you want to do is cry about it?!?
What have YOU done?
Your opinion is worthless here!

To Gibbage:

Keep up the good work and thank you for the 335. 1C should hire you full time IMHO.

XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 04:22 AM
Wow Gibbage. I thought your main skill was modelling. But you handed Carguy his as<r>s like a true professional beat-down!

Always nice to see a punk get his teeth kicked in. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 05:01 AM
Bah, ignore the negativity. These guys wouldn't be happy no matter what happened.

The modeling is fantastic...keep it up!

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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 05:37 AM
Why can't the PE-8 be modelled? Is there that little info available on it?

I love dropping those 5000kg bombs. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 05:53 AM
Ugh. How many times do I need to address this. YES, there truly is that LITTLE information. Not one photograph of the cockpit, and only crude line drawings to go off of. Not to mention the bombadeer and bombsight, and gunner positions. Even IF we had all the data we needed, it would take a massive team effort. It would be like modeling 5 cockpits because of the gunner positions. No Pe-8. Not now, not ever. Sorry. I wish it was not true myself.

Gib

Hysyde wrote:
- Why can't the PE-8 be modelled? Is there that
- little info available on it?
-
- I love dropping those 5000kg bombs.

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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 05:56 AM
Good lord.

Carguy, you're a *******.


Great work Gib.




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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 08:02 AM
OOOOOO, Ahhhhhh.

If modeled right it would make a heck of an IL-2 Racer!

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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 08:22 AM
I'm grateful for any new planes I get, and this one's looking fantastic so far. Keep up the good work Gib! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 08:33 AM
I find the following wording more appropriate: /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
"It's only funny until somebody loses an eye. Then it's absolutely freakin' hilarious!"

BTW: Anyone remember the first level in Serious Sam where he shot that one-eyes monster and used the "It's only funny until somebody loses an eye" line? Now that was hilarious.

XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 08:34 AM
Gibbage, the 335 is a beaut! Wish Ubi would put you on retainer--what a stable we'd have for this game!

If all the aircraft are taken, could that mean somebody is actually doing, say, a CR 32, or maybe even a B-534? (No answer needed, I'm sure there's a site where I can find out.)

Thanks for your efforts--the P-38 alone should be enough reason for people to stay off your back about what you do for us!

XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 08:42 AM
Several people have said
'Pe-8 will never be flyable.'
or
'We know they'll never model the PE-8,'

And I was just wondering why? What is it about this plane that makes it an impossibility? Obviously you _could_ make a model that looks like the plane, and give it a FM that 'seems reasonable' based on the aircrafts specs, but I think most here would not consider that a 'real model' of the aircraft. (you could also give us an X-Wing fighter, but you'd be flayed in the forums) So is it a lack of information? Did all the design and testing docs get burned in the war? Or is it just too ugly? Or is there something else that I'm missing.

Curiously,
Brent O

XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 08:59 AM
Im tired of answering this question.

WE DONT HAVE THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO MAKE IT FLYABLE!!!

Nuff said, now please. Drop it. Unless you can find the data, shut up for god sakes!

Gib

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08-24-2003, 10:57 AM
Cess Wizard

Hey, thanks for those links. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The one link for the Typhoon was really about the Tempest. I knew it was being modelled, and modeled well I might add. It looked from the thread you linked to that there is still no one working on the model of the Typoon.

The Typhoon sure would make a nice addition to the game. Maybe since Gibbage thought it was already being modelled, other modellers thought the same thing.

Ah well, whatever we get is icing on a great cake though. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif




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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 10:59 AM
Beautiful work, Gib. I'm very impressed and your efforts are much appreciated.

The flight model for the Do 335 is going to be interesting. From what I remember it was prone to a "porpoising" instability at high speed. The FM team will have to decide whether to model the real-life FM, or to go for an FM that represents how it MIGHT have handled with a bit more development.

I wonder if the bail-out sequence will follow real life either - explosive bolts to blow the tail off so the pilot doesn't get diced as he passes down the fuselage.

Regards,

RocketDog.

XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 12:59 PM
cowace2 wrote:
- Good lord.
-
- Carguy, you're a *******.
-
-
- Great work Gib.
-



I second what Cowace said.


Carguy, you're a jerk. The day you actually start paying Gib for his work is the day you get to tell him to work on a particular project. Not before.



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XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 05:01 PM
Well said, Gibbage, and I absolutely sympathize with your frustration with the the unproductive whiners who complain so vociferously ad nauseum about this and that.

I have a lot of respect for the 'doers' in this game and I appreciate all of their efforts. I have no respect at all for complainers who clearly only post to see their names in print on these boards and add nothing constructive or helpful.

However, given that there is no intelligence or social skill test required in order to post on this board, these boors will continue. They are no more than flies to brush off, and have no impact on the real business of developing this wonderful simulation.

XyZspineZyX
08-24-2003, 05:04 PM
Gibbage1 wrote:
- Ugh. How many times do I need to address this.
- YES, there truly is that LITTLE information. Not
- one photograph of the cockpit, and only crude line
- drawings to go off of. Not to mention the bombadeer
- and bombsight, and gunner positions. Even IF we had
- all the data we needed, it would take a massive team
- effort. It would be like modeling 5 cockpits
- because of the gunner positions. No Pe-8. Not now,
- not ever. Sorry. I wish it was not true myself.
-
- Gib
-

Sorry if you get this all the time. I really had no idea....now I know. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I guess I don't hang around here often enough. I have been around enough to be aware and appreciate the work your doing. Nice job.




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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 10:36 AM
WTG Gibbage ! Very good choice to model that plane. And finally, I must add.

But beware - the plane is cursed. All previous modellers have suffered from various hardware/software malfunctions. Backup your harddrive often, burn files to CD every day. You have been warned /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif .

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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 10:57 AM
Yes, I heard. I currently have 3 hard drives now (2 were donated!!!) and have my 3DS on all 3 drives, plus CD. This is my job. Loosing it would be loosing rent http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif That reminds me, its time to do a backup...

Gib

Hristos wrote:
- WTG Gibbage ! Very good choice to model that plane.
- And finally, I must add.
-
- But beware - the plane is cursed. All previous
- modellers have suffered from various
- hardware/software malfunctions. Backup your
- harddrive often, burn files to CD every day. You
- have been warned /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif .
-
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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 02:56 PM
You are the man,even though you seem to have this strange obsession with the Catalina,why not the Sunderland for gods sake but seriously cant wait for the DO.
PS Sudden thought the PBY is just another name for the "Cat" isnt it?

XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 03:04 PM
FI-finbar1 wrote:
-
- PS Sudden thought the PBY is just another name for
- the "Cat" isnt it?
-
-

Canso = Catalina = PBY



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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 03:36 PM
The Whiner's Lament:
-I don't want the Do335 because it's the wrong shape.
The Modeller's Reply:
-What shape do you usually have? Mickey Mouse shape? Smarties shape? Amphibious landing craft shape? POKE IN THE EYE SHAPE?
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Thank you Basil - and thank you Gibbage; I'm going to fly your Do335. I shan't fly it online or in campaigns, because I mainly try to recreate historical events. But I shall fly it purely for fun, and love it I'm sure (it's a fast bugger I believe).

BTW, did you know that you had one of the engines on backwards?/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 03:42 PM
Really Dunkelgrun which one ?

XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 04:44 PM
Looking really nice Gibbage! Any chance you could make a Ta 152C or a Fw 190D-12 later on? Pretty please!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 06:51 PM
Oleg has already made the Ta 152. It will be in the add-on. Its already flyable 2 months ago.

Gib

robban75 wrote:
- Looking really nice Gibbage! Any chance you could
- make a Ta 152C or a Fw 190D-12 later on? Pretty
- please!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
-
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- src="http://www.iownjoo.com/freeimghost/robban75/D
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-
-
- 'When it comes to aircombat, I'd rather be lucky
- than good any day!'



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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 06:53 PM
Gib, how hard would it to remove the H wing and replace it with the 11m C wing?

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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 07:01 PM
S!

A quiet majority appreciate your work and look forward to your continued updates http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cheers,
Cold_gambler

XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 11:33 PM
GIBBAGE have you thought about doing a Meteor or
Vampire?

And if not how much would you want $$$ to model one for FB if at all, would love to see either brought to FB and think they deserve to be in it as much as any other add on plane.

cheers

XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 11:38 PM
No, Gib should do this one next:

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P-40B. The Soviets did get these and they were used by them in combat.

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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 11:49 PM
Huckebein_FW wrote:
- Hs-129 cockpit was taken by LukeFF, which is great
- news.

Thank you for head-up

Regards
SnowLeopard

XyZspineZyX
08-26-2003, 04:10 AM
Hu? You mean the TA-152? Difficult at this stage. Because once the model is done, its devided into about 16 models. You would need to change each model, and re-do the texturing. Its a lot harder then you would think. Its not as simple as streatching the wings.

Gib

MiloMorai wrote:
- Gib, how hard would it to remove the H wing and
- replace it with the 11m C wing?
-
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-



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XyZspineZyX
08-26-2003, 04:26 AM
Nice plane! Someone else mentioned getting involved in modeling. Here is my first attempt what do you think?

http://www.b24.mach3ww.com/new/rugged.htm

A little green paint and I think I'll have it lol. I wouldnt worry about what people think Gibbage. There are those of us who appreciate your time,patience and great work. I would love to have the time and tools and the knowledge it takes to turn these planes out.

...and once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward,
for there you have been and there you long to return.
~leonardo de vinci

Message Edited on 08/26/0303:33AM by Redwulf__55

XyZspineZyX
08-26-2003, 10:58 AM
GIBBAGE have you thought about doing a Meteor or
Vampire?

And if not how much would you want $$$ to model one for FB if at all, would love to see either brought to FB and think they deserve to be in it as much as any other add on plane.

cheers

XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 07:11 PM
Awesome! Finally, a plane for a good CatDog skin. Because like CatDog, that plane looks like it's coming and going at the same time./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 07:48 PM
Mmmm, tell us, Gib... mmmm, have you seen Oleg nervous? Mmmm, has he told you to hurry? (...) Em, does he want it finished at a limit date...? (while I write this, I stare the ceiling and whistle, pretending I don't care too much...) /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 10:03 PM
Gribbage you are truly skilled in Max.That Do-335 "Pfiel"(Arrow) Looks very nice, cant wait to fly that beauti!

What plans do you have for the Do-335?
are you gonna model a few different versions of it? and dont forget about the bomb-bay, what an odd feature for a plane that could do 472 mph.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 10:30 PM
Hi Gibbage,
Pay no attention to children that do not belong to you.
Your work is a great addition to this community.Besides,what does a child know about art?

XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 10:38 PM
thanks Gibbage your awsome.........carguy BITE ME!!JERK

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