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SWJS
07-25-2009, 03:36 PM
Upon finishing my recent replay-through of AC, it occured to me.

One of the Animus' "ever so helpful tips" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif, includes using ladders instead of climbing on buildings as the afformentioned method is more socially acceptable. Also, can we forget those ever so friendly lepers who had the notion to push you and ONLY you if you got too close, or the lovely beggars who were willing to annoy the crap out of a guy with more weapons than a US armory for just a piece or two of silver?

So I've been wondering. Do you guys think the crowd will once again react to Ezio's actions, or is it normal for finely-dressed noblemen in their 20s to climb on buildings like monkeys?

Also, what types of people do you think we'll be interacting will? Will we once again have lepers wondering the streets just waiting to shove prettyboy Ezio's face into a wall, or the beggars jumping around Ezio for his looks and/or his money? Or, since it's the European Renaissance, will we be running across street performers, gypsies, etc? Maybe some romantic skinnydippers, or the gondola boatmen?

What do you guys think?

Edengoth
07-25-2009, 03:42 PM
Why not romantic skinnydipping gondola boatmen? :P
But seriously, though, those irritating beggars would always get jammed through the gut and I'd take the de-sync hit, but they were a very immersive part of the game.
Somehow, I think the answer to your question is yes. Likely they kept the beggars and madmen (maybe in slightly different forms), but also added new civilian types like the ones you mentioned. I wouldn't be surprised if the crowds played a much larger role in things this time around.

We already know that crowds of more than 6 (maybe it was more than 8) can be blended in with like the monks in the last game.

SWJS
07-25-2009, 03:48 PM
I'm actually pleased with hiding in the "new" crowd. The monks moved slow and tediously, and they were always several yards away from the area I wanted to enter, so I just found a way to go around, over, or through the (dead) guards themselves.

As for the beggars or lepers, I just punched them and watched them run away screaming.

Edengoth
07-25-2009, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
I'm actually pleased with hiding in the "new" crowd. The monks moved slow and tediously, and they were always several yards away from the area I wanted to enter, so I just found a way to go around, over, or through the (dead) guards themselves.

As for the beggars or lepers, I just punched them and watched them run away screaming.

Well, tackling and punching usually works well unless of course you're doing a stealth mission and there are a bunch of guards investigating the corpse you just dropped.

Then I have to make the beggar a sacrifice for the greater good. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Xm3buX
07-25-2009, 04:54 PM
In the E3 demo at the beginning there was a guy breathing fire, so I guess street preformers are going to be in.

I hope they take out the lepers/drunks and whoever else pushes you, that was so annoying when I'm trying to assassinate someone and they blow my cover. I don't mind the beggars so much, at least they don't mess it up when I'm blending.

But there's supposed to be an economic system in this game, so maybe you will be able to give beggars money this time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

SWJS
07-25-2009, 05:58 PM
Yeah, I'd rather just punch/stab the beggars. Save the money for dA Vinci's workshop.

RipYourSpineOut
07-25-2009, 07:15 PM
I wouldn't mind beggars. As long as they don't make them as freaking annoying in the first one. That was just over the top. If they let us just give them some money, Ubi would be ultimately forgiven of their AC1 sins.

Also, loving the idea of street performers. Like to see some fire breathers and jugglers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

*EDIT*: Oh my god. What if you could pay the beggar enough money to distract people? Bother them for cash ala AC1, then go in for the kill?

SWJS
07-25-2009, 08:05 PM
That's an awesome idea! Like when dA Vinci invented the double hidden blade! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Xanatos2007
07-25-2009, 09:39 PM
An easy way to get rid of beggars is to just draw your sword and watch them run away screaming.

Airadan
07-25-2009, 10:14 PM
I did not hate the beggars, but the madmen I swear nearly made me mad. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

But yes I am looking foward to the new crowds looks like we're going to be doing a hole lot more blending. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

One word for crowds breathing fire....COOL!

Ezio_475
07-26-2009, 05:25 AM
Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
Yeah, I'd rather just punch/stab the beggars. Save the money for dA Vinci's workshop.
And the Blacksmith Vendors and other vendors in cities. And faction systems http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ezio_475
07-26-2009, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by RipYourSpineOut:
I wouldn't mind beggars. As long as they don't make them as freaking annoying in the first one. That was just over the top. If they let us just give them some money, Ubi would be ultimately forgiven of their AC1 sins.

Also, loving the idea of street performers. Like to see some fire breathers and jugglers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

*EDIT*: Oh my god. What if you could pay the beggar enough money to distract people? Bother them for cash ala AC1, then go in for the kill?
You don't pay beggers to distract people, you pay the prostitutes faction to distract people.

Danvish
07-26-2009, 08:33 AM
I have no problem with the leopards, as long as they're pushing other people too.
It was praticulary funny for me during Majd U-Din's execution, that the leopard only pushed me, and suddenly everybody looks at me like I'm the one who's crazy and the guards start attacking you.

I think a nice way to go through a carnival, i.e is to dance past it. Like in the trailer, when you see the ***** dancing around with the ex-alive fat guy, it was common back then that people switch dancers in the middle of the circling dance, so it can be a nice way to move through the crowd http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Xm3buX
07-26-2009, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Danvish:
I have no problem with the leopards, as long as they're pushing other people too.
It was praticulary funny for me during Majd U-Din's execution, that the leopard only pushed me, and suddenly everybody looks at me like I'm the one who's crazy and the guards start attacking you.

I think a nice way to go through a carnival, i.e is to dance past it. Like in the trailer, when you see the ***** dancing around with the ex-alive fat guy, it was common back then that people switch dancers in the middle of the circling dance, so it can be a nice way to move through the crowd http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Woah, what game are you playing that has leopards http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

MeAltairLol
07-26-2009, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by Xm3buX:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Danvish:
I have no problem with the leopards, as long as they're pushing other people too.
It was praticulary funny for me during Majd U-Din's execution, that the leopard only pushed me, and suddenly everybody looks at me like I'm the one who's crazy and the guards start attacking you.

I think a nice way to go through a carnival, i.e is to dance past it. Like in the trailer, when you see the ***** dancing around with the ex-alive fat guy, it was common back then that people switch dancers in the middle of the circling dance, so it can be a nice way to move through the crowd http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Woah, what game are you playing that has leopards http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Leopard, ******.
Tomato, Tomatoe.
Same thing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

RipYourSpineOut
07-26-2009, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Ezio_475:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RipYourSpineOut:
I wouldn't mind beggars. As long as they don't make them as freaking annoying in the first one. That was just over the top. If they let us just give them some money, Ubi would be ultimately forgiven of their AC1 sins.

Also, loving the idea of street performers. Like to see some fire breathers and jugglers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

*EDIT*: Oh my god. What if you could pay the beggar enough money to distract people? Bother them for cash ala AC1, then go in for the kill?
You don't pay beggers to distract people, you pay the prostitutes faction to distract people. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh, I already know. But the beggars could do it for less money http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

thekyle0
07-26-2009, 09:40 AM
I think you all mean to say Lepers. Or just crazed freaking maniacs. (cfm's) I think it adds a good amount of difficulty. But please, keep them where they fit. In the Hospitalier fortress, they fit because it was a hospital, crazy people probably would have been brought there. In the alley ways, sure. It's a good place to do drugs or whatever it is that makes them psychos. But at the execution ceremony, no! Why would the guards let somebody like that in? The cfm's should be limited to places where they don't seem "out of place"

The beggars were annoying, but they also bring a lot of immersion to the game which I liked. With the notoriety and economic system they can add more tactics to coping with them.
Ex. If you punch a beggar to make them run then that could have an impact on your notoriety or even alert the guards. If you draw your weapon,(assuming you had one at the time) then that would have the same effect as punching them. Or, if you want to remain unnoticed, you could just pay them some measily sum of gold to make them leave.

MrNussbaum
07-26-2009, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Xm3buX:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Danvish:
I have no problem with the leopards, as long as they're pushing other people too.
It was praticulary funny for me during Majd U-Din's execution, that the leopard only pushed me, and suddenly everybody looks at me like I'm the one who's crazy and the guards start attacking you.

I think a nice way to go through a carnival, i.e is to dance past it. Like in the trailer, when you see the ***** dancing around with the ex-alive fat guy, it was common back then that people switch dancers in the middle of the circling dance, so it can be a nice way to move through the crowd http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Woah, what game are you playing that has leopards http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe he meant leper? I have no idea.

caswallawn_2k7
07-26-2009, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Airadan:
I did not hate the beggars, but the madmen I swear nearly made me mad. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

But yes I am looking foward to the new crowds looks like we're going to be doing a hole lot more blending. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

One word for crowds breathing fire....COOL!
the beggers and mad people never bother me but then I didnt blend I prety much played the entire first game on the roof tops and I just hope that option will still be there in the second game. (dont mind the guards chasing me as long as I dont have to deal with the normal people in the way)

Danvish
07-26-2009, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by MrNussbaum:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xm3buX:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Danvish:
I have no problem with the leopards, as long as they're pushing other people too.
It was praticulary funny for me during Majd U-Din's execution, that the leopard only pushed me, and suddenly everybody looks at me like I'm the one who's crazy and the guards start attacking you.

I think a nice way to go through a carnival, i.e is to dance past it. Like in the trailer, when you see the ***** dancing around with the ex-alive fat guy, it was common back then that people switch dancers in the middle of the circling dance, so it can be a nice way to move through the crowd http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Woah, what game are you playing that has leopards http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe he meant leper? I have no idea. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My bad, sometimes I still have problems with English :P
Let's just call them CMFS.

@cas
I did exactly same thing, I only started using them when playing the game 2nd time and was looking for creative ways to assassinate and escape.