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MrBlueSky1960
08-28-2007, 11:02 AM
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Brought the death of the SR-45 Princess... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

End of an era...

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=98338472786849495

Saro Princess fly-by, with sound

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=Saro+Princess+fly-by

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45Princess.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45BW.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45COLOUR.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45EC.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45EP.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45FE.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45MP.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45PT.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45TAILPLANE.jpg

The dreadful end...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45Dismantled.jpg

MrBlueSky1960
08-28-2007, 11:02 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Brought the death of the SR-45 Princess... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

End of an era...

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=98338472786849495

Saro Princess fly-by, with sound

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=Saro+Princess+fly-by

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45Princess.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45BW.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45COLOUR.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45EC.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45EP.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45FE.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45MP.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45PT.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45TAILPLANE.jpg

The dreadful end...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SR45Dismantled.jpg

Waldo.Pepper
08-28-2007, 04:55 PM
I sometimes lament that we all were born just a little bit too late.

MrBlueSky1960
08-29-2007, 04:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
I sometimes lament that we all were born just a little bit too late. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Waldo, in a couple generations there will be people like us saying exactly the same about our time... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif It's the way of things I'm afraid, looking back to the world of our fathers, wishing we had listened and remembered more when they told us of their time, a time before us.

That the passing of a world full of wonderous machines and the men who made them slowly dawns to late on our selfish minds that we will never see or hear their like again...

That is reason to lament my friend... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Waldo.Pepper
08-29-2007, 12:14 PM
I said sometimes for a reason. When I was a student in University, a lifetime ago, I had a professor who was nutso for Napoleonic France. (He had it really bad! I am sure when he got home he walked around with his hand in his tunic.) At least for us there is a more complete record, film sound recording etc. His historical affliction is harder to satisfy.

woofiedog
08-29-2007, 11:22 PM
A Beauty of a Bird and a Sad ending.

A couple video clips of the Saunders-Roe SR-45 Princess seaplane.

Links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV1eUeo27tc&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGxxknrBVxY

The-Pizza-Man
08-30-2007, 03:33 AM
that's really amazing, an aeroplane that size with that performance would have been unthinkable in 1939.

Bremspropeller
08-30-2007, 05:48 AM
The name "Princess" is a bit off.

"Ole Witch" would've done a better job http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

woofiedog
08-30-2007, 06:25 AM
The-Pizza-Man... Quote... that's really amazing, an aeroplane that size with that performance would have been unthinkable in 1939.

Yes it is quite amazing that with that size and wieght it was almost as fast as most WWII fighter's up till the middle of the war and with 5 to 6 times the weight of a fighter of the same period.

Empty weight: 190,000 lb (86,184 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 345,025 lb (156,500 kg)

But some of those post war prop driven bombers could flying along with fairly high speeds.

B-36

Maximum speed: 420 mph (365 knots, 685 km/h) with jets on
Cruise speed: 230 mph (200 knots, 380 km/h) with jets off
Max takeoff weight: 410,000 lb (190,000 kg)

Tu-95

Maximum speed: 925 km/h (500 kt, 575 mph)
Max takeoff weight: 188,000 kg (414,500 lb)

BerkshireHunt
08-30-2007, 07:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The-Pizza-Man:
that's really amazing, an aeroplane that size with that performance would have been unthinkable in 1939. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Even more amazing when you remember that Edwin Alliot Verdon Roe was still a board member when the Princess was made. He started his career in aviation making rubber powered models in 1905 before becoming the first Briton to fly on British soil in about 1910. He set up a company in his name (Avro) at the start of the first world war and chaired it until the late nineteen twenties when he sold his interest and bought into the boat builders S E Saunders to make Saunders Roe. (Ironically, in the second picture you can see in the background the prototype Avro Vulcan, though Roe had no involvement in that company at the time).
Roe was one of the giants of British aviation - a man who, like Tom Sopwith (who owned Hawker and Gloster), created an industrial empire out of nothing (with a little help from two world wars). Interestingly, he was a supporter of Oswald Moseley's blackshirts during the 1930s, having been mightily impressed with the social policies of Mussolini and Hitler and their success in reducing unemployment. It was possibly for that reason that Saro (as Saunders Roe was known) never won any major contracts during the war. Their factory at Cowes still exists today, but now it makes wind turbines and nacelles for turboprop engines.

DuxCorvan
08-30-2007, 08:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
His historical affliction is harder to satisfy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As an ancient warfare buff, it is also very rewarding that the relative lack of data makes it possible to keep the interest on with every new discovery and finding, unearthing past and changing what we thought day after day. It also makes possible to make theories and speculate about reasonable but unconfirmed views of the past. Modern times, with so much media and data available, is more a nostalgia thing that an alive motivation for research and knowledge.

f.ip2
08-30-2007, 06:11 PM
it still amazes me that those planes even were able to take off. they look so damn huge and heavy.

imagine the power of those engines - to lift such a beast.


amazing

Low_Flyer_MkVb
08-30-2007, 06:13 PM
That last pic's a gutter ain't it?

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