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11-03-2006, 03:54 PM
probably already seen this but a sweet video http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF6s7cGBowY<div class="ev_tpc_signature">


11-03-2006, 03:58 PM
Schweeet! I had seen this before: the reason the pilot didn't raise the gear is that it was prolly its inaugural flight: that is some sort of tradition as I understand it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks for posting. Another element of history, come to life!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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11-03-2006, 04:05 PM
Great clip, and Im not even a 190 fan particularly.

All the clips from that man/company seem to be of a high quality, one or two of Spits and 109s appeared on a DVD I got.

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11-03-2006, 04:38 PM
Wonder if that was a BMW engine? Sounded American to me. Gear down on first flights in case of a number of failures likely to happen.

11-03-2006, 06:37 PM
It's a Russian engine.


However, they're building a Dora, which will be fitted with a V-1710.

11-03-2006, 07:04 PM
Either way it sounds realy realy cool. Is it one of those they built from the ground up , or was it restored? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Ruy Horta
11-04-2006, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by triad773:
Schweeet! I had seen this before: the reason the pilot didn't raise the gear is that it was prolly its inaugural flight: that is some sort of tradition as I understand it

It isn't a tradition, it is a standard method of test flying.

Why, since the gear is a technical piece of equipment that has history of being tricky in development. So keeping the gear down eliminates one worry for the test. Once the a/c handles well in the slow speed regime, one can go to the next step and risk adding the uncertainty of raising the gear. The big question - will it come down again and lock?

If not damage is certain, but to what extend?

For those who can read German I really can recommend:

Projekt 262
Tagebuch des Testpiloten
Wolfgang Czaia
NeunundzwanzigSechs, 2006
ISBN 3-9807-9357-5
Hard Cover, 219
DVD included

Written by Wolfgang Czaia who test flew the first two rebuilt Me 262s, we follow the whole history of these a/c from his point of view. A joy for aviation enthusiasts in general and a must for Me 262 fans.

The DVD is a gem, covering much of the flight testing, incl. mishaps.

If ordered through the publisher you might still get one autographed by Wolfgang Czaia.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Ruy Horta


11-04-2006, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by slo_1_2_3:
Either way it sounds realy realy cool. Is it one of those they built from the ground up , or was it restored? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

Its a brand new A8 which comes as a kit for 500,000 euros. The same people are also making a Dora replica but with an Allison engine.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Capt Eric Brown says: "I found in general the default joystick settings tended to be oversensitive. With my recommended settings it will give people a real feeling of how they actually flew."

11-04-2006, 10:10 AM
the engine is the ASh-82, build under licence in china, An airworthy BMW801 is much too expensive for a "replica" plane (even if build on original drawnings from FW). Like Horta said: the gear in this first flight was locked down, Flugwerk having some difficulties with the retraction system on that moment (resolved since then). For those dreaming of such a plane instead of a cessna, wel keep on dreaming cause they all already been sold even if not build yet!, you can always take your amex or visa gold and make a try for the D9 Allison powered version...but it's a bit more expensive than 500.000???(without the options: ETC501+ droptank) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
ps: it's a KIT-PLANE! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
re-ps: the test pilot who flew the FlugWerk 190 is the same pilot that flies the 109 and the me262 for the messerschmitt foundation.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

"Once I saw a smoking hurricane over the French making it's way back towards England and gave it an escort over the channel. Three weeks later I was escorted by three spitfires towards France.
This would never happen in Russia...never."(Me109 pilot)

"I noticed, that you were doing high Gs for 6 minutes now, and in real life it was no more than 3 Gs for most turns, and in 2 minutes you were not able to see what gauges showed!???
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I built up enough courage to go out to the local shop this morning and on my way I saw a squadron of FW 190's flying low and fast; my immediate reaction was to rugby tackle an old lady who was close by as I shouted "BANDITS! INCOMING! 1 O'CLOCK LOW!"...How was I to know they were pigeons?! They had the sun to there backs!

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