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Wild.Bill.Kelso
03-04-2006, 08:05 AM
I have a key assigned to the Toggle Gunpods key, but I've never used it.

What are Gunpods? What does Toggle do to them?? Do they have anything to do with bombing?

Capt.LoneRanger
03-04-2006, 08:23 AM
They are additional machineguns/cannons attached in pods unter the wings(Bf109/FW190/P39?) or under the fuselage (Bf110).

You can map this key to either fire all cannons at once or just the ones in the aircraft, to save the ammo of the Pods.

ladlon
03-04-2006, 08:27 AM
Thanks Wild Bill and LoneRanger... I was always wondering that myself...

Wild.Bill.Kelso
03-04-2006, 08:37 AM
When I fly the P47 fully loaded with guns, cannons, rockets and bombs, the 4 x45 Joystick fireing keys seem to already fire all the ordinance...

The trigger fires the cannons.
The top/red middle button drops the bombs.
The right (B) yellow button fires the rockets.
and The left (A) yellow button fires both guns and cannons.

Is this A button different from the Toggle gun pods? It seems like the P47 can fire all it's guns without toggling anything...

Tomas_W
03-04-2006, 08:40 AM
Gunpods are generally pods with guns that aren't put on the plane before it leaves the factory, but something you can hang on and off the plane if necessary.

If my memory serves me right, these are the gunpods that can be fitted to FB+AEP+PF flyable planes;

- The P-38L and P-38L Late can be fitted with two gunpods under the outer wing pylons, each with two .50cal MG's with 350 rounds each,

- For the P-63C-5, there are several weapon loads that feature two gunpods, each with one .50cal MG with 300 rounds.

- Bf-109's(G-2 version and later);
Bf-109G-2:Two MG 151/20 with 135 rounds each.
Bf-109G-6(all versions)and G-14:Two MG 151/20 with 135 rounds each or two Mk108 with 35 rounds each.
Bf-109G-10:As the G-6/G-14 but with 140 rounds in the MG 151/20 pods.
Bf-109K-4/K-4 C3:Same MG 151/20's as G-6/G-14 but with 60 rounds each for the Mk108's.

The Bf-110G-2 can carry either a single BK 3.7 with 72 rounds or a twin MG 151/20 pod with 200 rounds per gun under the belly.

The Fw-190A-8 and A-9 can carry(under it's wings);
-two twin MG 151/20 with 145 rounds per gun or
-two Mk103 or Mk108 with 35 rounds each.

There you go, all the gunpod options for the flyables in the game.
Ammo numbers are taken from http://free-st.htnet.hr/dvd/ammo.html

I've never tried the "Toggle gunpods" button, but my guess would be that it turns gunpods on and off. The thing is that when a plane is fitted with gunpods, they get assigned to either button 1 or button 2, and fires together with the other guns for respective button. So if you toggle gunpods off, it should conserve ammo, assuming it works the way i think it does.

I cannot even in my wildest imaginations believe that they have anything to do with bombing.

Wild.Bill.Kelso
03-04-2006, 08:50 AM
So, I guess the P47 must have 2 sets of guns built-in (no pods). Since it was a tankbuster I guess that seems possible that they were built-in.

heywooood
03-04-2006, 09:33 AM
'tankbuster'.....oh oh - here it comes.

Chuck_Older
03-04-2006, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Wild.Bill.Kelso:
So, I guess the P47 must have 2 sets of guns built-in (no pods). Since it was a tankbuster I guess that seems possible that they were built-in.

The P-47 has one set of wing mounted weapons, in the wing- 8 machine guns, four to a wing

Don't be misled by 'primary' and 'secondary' weapons in planes with armament like this

Ritter_Cuda
03-04-2006, 10:07 AM
the toggle does not work on the P-38 it will fire the pods with the mg trigger. the toggle only seem to work if the pods are linked to the cannon trigger

Chuck_Older
03-04-2006, 10:56 AM
The P-38 doesn't have gunpods. Rockets are not gunpods, and the 20mm cannon with 4 .50 mgs are standard armament. What you are seeing is the cannon firing with the machine guns

re-map your fire controls so that weapon one and weapon two are mapped. The you can fire the mgs independantly of the cannon

JG52Uther
03-04-2006, 11:07 AM
I have recently got rid of my 'toggle gunpods' button,as I never used it anyway.If I get behind something,I want to hit them with everything.

HellToupee
03-04-2006, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
The P-38 doesn't have gunpods. Rockets are not gunpods, and the 20mm cannon with 4 .50 mgs are standard armament. What you are seeing is the cannon firing with the machine guns

re-map your fire controls so that weapon one and weapon two are mapped. The you can fire the mgs independantly of the cannon

it can carry gun pods, thats what hes saying

Chuck_Older
03-04-2006, 04:47 PM
Well, you're right. I had checked, but somehow I missed the dual .50 cal gunpods

I don't remember ever reading that P-38s carried ginpods, since I started reading about this stuff in 1976, when I was five.

But without a doubt, they have gunpods in the sim

Enthor1
03-04-2006, 07:44 PM
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-38_Lightning#Unusual_Lightning_variants



Another P-38L was modified after the war as a "super strafer," with eight 12.7 mm machine guns in the nose and a pod under each wing with two 12.7 mm guns, for a total of twelve. Nothing came of this fit, either.

30 seconds on Google , there is probably more.

edit: I started reading about this stuff in 1952 and have never come across any P38 with gunpods , wonder where Oleg got his info for that loadout?