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eternal_empire
09-14-2005, 01:34 PM
I bought PF just the other day and have a couple of quick questions;

1) In game, when I move any of my a/c, they tend to jerk from one position to another making it very difficult to make small, subtle movements when in dogfights. When an enemy a/c is just above or below my sights, any movement to centre it will lead to it moving far too far in the intended direction. Is this just a characteristic of the a/c and if so is there anyway to overcome this? It is not lag from the running of the game itself, merely the handling. I don't have a joystick, would it be recommended to get one?

2) I see no sign of the B-29. As this was the a/c I was most looking forward to flying, and as it is pictured on the packaging and in the manual, please tell me it is featured & playable in the game.

thanks

eternal_empire
09-14-2005, 01:34 PM
I bought PF just the other day and have a couple of quick questions;

1) In game, when I move any of my a/c, they tend to jerk from one position to another making it very difficult to make small, subtle movements when in dogfights. When an enemy a/c is just above or below my sights, any movement to centre it will lead to it moving far too far in the intended direction. Is this just a characteristic of the a/c and if so is there anyway to overcome this? It is not lag from the running of the game itself, merely the handling. I don't have a joystick, would it be recommended to get one?

2) I see no sign of the B-29. As this was the a/c I was most looking forward to flying, and as it is pictured on the packaging and in the manual, please tell me it is featured & playable in the game.

thanks

Low_Flyer_MkII
09-14-2005, 01:44 PM
Welcome!

1) Yes, get a joystick
2) B-29 is in game as AI only, you can escort them or try to shoot them down.

Find a post by Bearcat and click on the essentials link under his sig - lots of useful stuff.

Hope it helps.

Triggaaar
09-14-2005, 04:22 PM
I'm a newbie too. But you HAVE to have a joystick! If you're not wanting to spend anything, you should still be able to pick up an old game port joystick for next to nothing on ebay. I will be upgrading my old CH flight stick pro, and I don't expect to get anything for it. But it's plenty good enough, and doesn't compare to a keyboard. When using the keyboard, you're trying to make subtle adjustments, but pressing the key gives full lift/turn/whatever.

Skycat_2
09-14-2005, 11:17 PM
Many years ago, when I got my first PC air combat sim, I put off buying a joystick, foolishly thinking that the keyboard was 'good enough.' I was partly naive and partly frugal ...

I finally purchased a cheap D-pad controller because I believed it would serve my needs for many games. That was okay for a while, and certainly much better than the keyboard arrow keys, but when I later upgraded to a budget-bin joystick (with only one action button) I immediately felt a transcendance from gamer to 'pilot.' Now, several joysticks later I have formed a strong opinion on what features that are essential for a basic FB/PF/CFS/FS (etc.) setup:

1. Z-axis "twisty stick" for rudder control. You'll get the benefit of finer control without having to spend lots of extra money on rudder pedals.
2. Throttle control lever. Changing throttle increments with the keyboard while in battle is the pits. You can adjust speed without even thinking if the throttle lever is on your stick.
3. Eight-way HAT switch on top. With this switch under your thumb you can intuitively 'look around' the cockpit or battlefield while still controlling your plane with the stick. The next best thing to TrackIR, which I can't afford.
4. Several programmable action buttons. I've got eight on my stick, including the trigger; four of them are at the base of the stick and I've assigned two to control cockpit zoom in/out and two to control flap increments up/down.

Just my thoughts.

Edit: An affordable stick (http://www.nextag.com/Guillemot-Top-Gun-Fox--zz72101533z0z0z1zusb_joystickzB9az2--COMPARE-PRICES-html). You don't have to spend a fortune.

Kuna15
09-14-2005, 11:27 PM
Like guys were saying without joystick you wont get far with this game. It's a must.
Nose shaking (aiming difficulty) is normal you will get that more or less intense on every plane. You must know when to shoot, and that you can achieve only by practice. Gunnery is IMHO harder to learn than flying.

Bearcat99
09-15-2005, 07:12 PM
You will defintitely need a joystick..... try here (http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html). Consider the $39 X-45 if money is an issue. For $39 it is a steal.. and they are usually in good shape. If that is too much consider the EVO... whatever you decide you want something with the features that Skycat suggests.... but the rudder control issue has several solutions.... the X-45 has a rocker switch on the throttle... you want something with rudder control... not necessarily a twist handle.. but definitely rudder control.

All the planes on the box are not flyable.. some are AI only.

You might want to consider buying the Forgotten Battles GOLD pack.. which contains Forgotten battles and The Aces Expansion Pack in one box.. then merge them both with PF. Here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/4591089933/r/4591089933#4591089933) are the best reasons why that path is HIGHLY recommended.

Welcome aboard and hit the Essentials link in my sig.