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SeaFireLIV
03-26-2006, 10:39 AM
Yes, the crappy 4.04 AI has meant I`ve been put off Fb completely (except for the 2 sessions i play a week online.

So guess what? i decided to try Oblivion, since I`m a fan of RPGs and the like. And I gotta say Oblivion`s the best RPG since Balder`s gate. It`s quite amazing...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/thirdperson.jpg Where to now?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/thefield.jpg It`s bootifulll!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/port.jpg hmm, some seafaring maybe?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/ponder.jpg Pondering on it all...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/knight.jpg A good helm helps hide my handsome features! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/firstperson.jpg First-person view


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/cityfield.jpg Citys you work straight into with people all doing their own things...

Not only are the graphics amazing and on full settings work really smoothly on my machine (prob cos I keep a clean ship), but also the gameplay is very good, with the best character creation i`ve seen in a long time. It took me TWO HOURS creating the face! I can literally duplicate my own handsome features!!

If you`re into RPGs this is highly recommended... while Oleg fixes Fb`s AI - if ever! Still don`t matter, Oblivion looks like a long-term game, and even the Mods are coming out now!

reverendkrv1972
03-26-2006, 10:47 AM
I have yet to get Oblivion...I'm trying to put off buying it,because I KNOW it's going to eat into my flying time...

how would it play on my system SeaFire?
P4 @ 2.6gig
1.25 Gig of DDr RAM
radeon 9600XT

I should imagine it's quite heavy on PC's?

my rig can play Morrowind fine(a bit of slowdown in places like Balmora)

Regards,

Rev

SeaFireLIV
03-26-2006, 10:55 AM
Well my system is an Athlon 64, 3500+ with 2gig ram and a 6800GT, Audigy4 card. Not sure how this compares with your machine, reverendkrv1972. It should work as well as mine i reckon.

But it runs BETTER than Morrowind! Remember how morrowind always pauses when it loads a new area, well Oblivion never does! It says `loading`, but I don`t notice it, I just keep moving. All I see are the odd tree or bushes in the distance `popping up`, but the game doesn`t stop. I`ve just installed a Mod for longer days that also gets rid of the `loading` words so now it feels like I`m travelling continuously. Somehow, it loads on the fly! It could be my system, but I dunno, hopefully it will run well for you too. P.S, I`m also on MAX settings but with music off.

HuninMunin
03-26-2006, 10:56 AM
I agree with everything in your post, Seafire.
IMHO its even better then BGII in terms of gameplay (graphics are no subject of comparsion).
I got:

P4 @ 2.8 Gig
512 mb RD-Ram
Radeon X800.

It runs good on medium settings, but that doesnt say much.
The reasons are that

1. Oblivion even looks gorgeous at low detail
and

2. My hardrive has hardly any free space on it (120 gigs) and hasnt been deframentated since.....2002 I think.

Right now Im earning good money in the Imperial Arena, doing bloody, dirty fights using my beloved two-handed sword. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif

NonWonderDog
03-26-2006, 10:57 AM
A warning, though, Geforce FX cards are nearly incapable of running this game. Anything older is completely unsupported.

My FX 5900XT, overclocked, only manages to run this game at 15 fps without grass or bloom. I got a bit of a boost with ini-tweaking, but 9 fps battles are the norm.

You need at least a Geforce 6800GS (or ATI equivalent) to run this game acceptably. Processor doesn't make much difference, but make sure you have at least 1 gig of RAM.


If anyone's interested, the main ini tweak is to RAM precache. The default is only 25 Mb (!), I boosted it up to 500 Mb and doubled my frame rates in some areas.

BorisGruschenko
03-26-2006, 10:58 AM
Got yourself that body armour in the battle of Kvatch, and travelling to Anvil now ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Take care, there‚¬īs Vampirism on the western country road.
Nice game, indeed, I liked Morrowind too. But you need a decent rig to run it smoothly. Low FPS tend to make me feel a little dizzy after about one hour.

SeaFireLIV
03-26-2006, 11:01 AM
Oh yea,HuninMunin, the arena fights are, using a young-term AWESOME! It`s what it should have been in Morrowind. You get reminded of Gladiater as you walk up the Arena ramp and then you come out to the cheers or jeers of the crowd as the battle begins! And they react to how well or badly you do.

Really amazing and atmospheric!

@BorisGruschenko : yep! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif for the armour. But i really don`t get slowdown - at least not noticable.

HuninMunin
03-26-2006, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Well my system is an Athlon 64, 3500+ with 2gig ram and a 6800GT, Audigy4 card. Not sure how this compares with your machine, reverendkrv1972. It should work as well as mine i reckon.

But it runs BETTER than Morrowind! Remember how morrowind always pauses when it loads a new area, well Oblivion never does! It says `loading`, but I don`t notice it, I just keep moving. All I see are the odd tree or bushes in the distance `popping up`, but the game doesn`t stop. I`ve just installed a Mod for longer days that also gets rid of the `loading` words so now it feels like I`m travelling continuously. Somehow, it loads on the fly! It could be my system, but I dunno, hopefully it will run well for you too. P.S, I`m also on MAX settings but with music off.


I notice the borders from one cell to another (cell is the name of a certain square in the world, wich are loaded on there boarders)
but only in a minimal stutter.
I think thats caused by my low RAM.

SeaFireLIV
03-26-2006, 11:05 AM
I guess the more Ram the better - in all cases, guys.

HuninMunin
03-26-2006, 11:07 AM
Having in mind that I`m doing my A-level degree in english right now, this previous post of mine has frightingly many spelling mistakes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

JG5_UnKle
03-26-2006, 12:18 PM
How does that conig file change to RAM precache go?

I can't seem to pinpoint it - OT but very cool game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Chuck_Older
03-26-2006, 12:23 PM
Yeah, i decided to give Oblivion a try too

It's a very well polished game. And even on my PC which will just barely do 'Perfect' in FB without trouble, Oblivion looks and plays great. I turned the grass all the way down though, I must have looked for a arrow for 15 minutes

If anyone familiar with Operation:Flashpoint could back me up on this one I'd appreciate it:

Are some of the birdsongs straight out of OFP or what?

Oblivion is a really nice break from simming. I had a terrible week at work and on the weekends I usually get som campaign stuff done. This weekend it seemed like a chore, so I got Oblivion and have been having a great time

I think that this is news to some folks: this game has been in development since 2002! Can you imagine what SoW:BoB will be like after all the time and effort they are putting into it at Maddox Games??

Oblivion really raises the bar for what's expected visually and AI wise, I should think. It's simply beautifully done. I think that the devs got some influence from some of the Lord of the Ring films, some of the ruins really have that feel to them.

I tried The previous game in the series and it was fun, but I never liked the weird Sci-Fi feel to the creatures and buildings. This one is rooted in enough solid relaity to suspend disbelief a while. I give it two thumbs up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

PS

my PC:

Win SP1
2.08 Ghz Athlon
1.5 GB RAM
onboard sound
GeForce 6600 (plain old 6600), as-shipped drivers
plenty HD space

I turned grass off, some other things down, but my view distance is high. I see the 'loading' screen and maybe a dropped frame- that's it- when a new area loads. So when walking, that's a dropped frame every two minutes, outside. Inside, never a dropped frame. never seen a dropepd frame during a fight, inside or out, even on the plane of Oblivion (which is rerally a trip)

Oh, one otehr thing- there is no "Kyle Katarn Syndrome" on every mission in Oblivion. I've had 4-5 guys help me out storming a castle

Targ
03-26-2006, 12:44 PM
Oblivion is a hoot so far!

SeaFireLIV
03-26-2006, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Yeah, i decided to give Oblivion a try too

It's a very well polished game. And even on my PC which will just barely do 'Perfect' in FB without trouble, Oblivion looks and plays great. I turned the grass all the way down though, I must have looked for a arrow for 15 minutes.....


Oblivion is a really nice break from simming. I had a terrible week at work and on the weekends I usually get som campaign stuff done. This weekend it seemed like a chore, so I got Oblivion and have been having a great time

I think that this is news to some folks: this game has been in development since 2002! Can you imagine what SoW:BoB will be like after all the time and effort they are putting into it at Maddox Games??

Oblivion really raises the bar for what's expected visually and AI wise, I should think. It's simply beautifully done. I think that the devs got some influence from some of the Lord of the Ring films, some of the ruins really have that feel to them.



I said I had max settings on Oblivion, but just discovered that i didn`t! half the graphic settings were further down in the menu, so what you see of the screenshots is at LOWER settings (grass at less than half)!

You`re right, there`s a few nods to LOTR in there and you hit another nail on the head with the `reality` aspect. In Oblivion, there are so many scenes that mimic reality: Chapels, rolling fields, deers that remind of Devon in England (and other natural areas) that it can actually suspend your disbelief. If you refuse to use the `quick-travel` (which i do) then you`ll find yourself really feel like your trotting on horseback over real English fields.

Also, I love the AI, while not perfect, it`s really nice to see people doing there own thing; farming, sleeping, hunting even (I saw a guy chasing a sheep with arrows!), guards changing over. They`re not just there waiting for you as it was in Morrowind. A LOT of work`s gone into this and it shows...

Aye, i`m sure Oleg`s BOB will be to flight-simming what Oblivion is proving to be to RPGs.

Airmail109
03-26-2006, 05:11 PM
I heard Oblivion ran like **** even on FX-60 machines on the RPG forums http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif Dual 7900 GTXs and such barely pushing 30 fps on maxxed out settings. Think im going to get the xbox 360 version which can utilise AA and HDR at the same time unlike the PC version, and actually run at stable frame rates.

Grey_Mouser67
03-26-2006, 05:46 PM
I've been looking for a good fantasy game...I'll give it a whirl.

Is it online or offline or both? I'd like to play offline primarily as I'm not a fan of pay for play.

SeaFireLIV
03-26-2006, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Aimail101:
I heard Oblivion ran like **** even on FX-60 machines on the RPG forums http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif Dual 7900 GTXs and such barely pushing 30 fps on maxxed out settings. Think im going to get the xbox 360 version which can utilise AA and HDR at the same time unlike the PC version, and actually run at stable frame rates.

Aimail101, the forums are frequented by children that rival even the the forums here! You get some adults, but mostly you`ll here whining for the stupidist of reasons eg, `The grass isn`t 3D!` and some such.

Remember, most technical whinings will overbalance what you see because HAPPY people whine less, just like here. So you here the loud minority. I`ve seen this kind of whining with EVERY really good game. It never ends. I even think some people are employed by rival companies to do this.

Sure, get the Xbox version if you want. but do you really want to pay ‚£50 for something that`s identical to the PC at ‚£30? Remember, the PC has far more configuration options and will take advantage of numerous mods made free by users (some I have installed already). AA and HDR together - so what? I put AA on, looks ok, I put HDR on, looks great - can`t see it worth going to Xbox for unless you`ve got more money than brains.

By the way, I haven`t measured my FPS, but 20 fps is easily playable and 30 fps outside is great. I think the focus on the number is a mistake... It`s how it runs to you, not what someone on a faceless forum says.

Anyway, i`m really loving this game. It`s almost a new world experience. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

@Grey_Mouser67, Oblivion is offline only.

Ominae-
03-26-2006, 07:06 PM
Not to mention you can download free content on the pc version. Its actually a big deal too, I remember in morrowind, you could download something new EVERY day. Took me allmost a month to even begin my game (getting all the new content).

2 hours to make your face? Amazing, sounds like the kind of thing I'd spend lots of time on. Too bad my current PC wont be able to handle it. I even play FB with medium graphics.

Although soon I'll get a major upgrade, for playing FB on full, Oblivion, Flight Sim X, and OF2 (when it comes out).

Oblivion looks like a blast though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

NonWonderDog
03-26-2006, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by JG5_UnKle:
How does that conig file change to RAM precache go?

I can't seem to pinpoint it - OT but very cool game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Line 82 in the "My Documents/My Games/Oblivion/Oblivion.ini" file: iPreloadSizeLimit=26214400

I changed the number to 524288000. I'm not sure that you actually have to keep powers of two, but it seemed like a good idea.

This took me from a constant 15 fps outside to a range of 15-35 fps outside...tending towards 15. Every little bit helps, I guess. I still get about 8 fps when using healing spells or torches; I think it's the bump mapping that destroys my 5900XT, but I can't find any way to turn it off.


Another tweak, haven't tested yet, is to change bEnableBoundingVolumeOcclusion from 0 to 1. Apparently it enables a sort of hidden object culling.

Badsight.
03-26-2006, 11:12 PM
the X360 version is running at a high graphic setting

but already PC's still are performing better - draw distance is the most noticable feature

i myself have decided to go with the X360 version - just beware freezes (X360 arebecoming knowen for it) . & this game like no other will get your X360 console cooking

JG5_UnKle
03-26-2006, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by NonWonderDog:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG5_UnKle:
How does that conig file change to RAM precache go?

I can't seem to pinpoint it - OT but very cool game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Line 82 in the "My Documents/My Games/Oblivion/Oblivion.ini" file: iPreloadSizeLimit=26214400

I changed the number to 524288000. I'm not sure that you actually have to keep powers of two, but it seemed like a good idea.

This took me from a constant 15 fps outside to a range of 15-35 fps outside...tending towards 15. Every little bit helps, I guess. I still get about 8 fps when using healing spells or torches; I think it's the bump mapping that destroys my 5900XT, but I can't find any way to turn it off.


Another tweak, haven't tested yet, is to change bEnableBoundingVolumeOcclusion from 0 to 1. Apparently it enables a sort of hidden object culling. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif Thank you

F0_Dark_P
03-27-2006, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Well my system is an Athlon 64, 3500+ with 2gig ram and a 6800GT, Audigy4 card. Not sure how this compares with your machine, reverendkrv1972. It should work as well as mine i reckon.

But it runs BETTER than Morrowind! Remember how morrowind always pauses when it loads a new area, well Oblivion never does! It says `loading`, but I don`t notice it, I just keep moving. All I see are the odd tree or bushes in the distance `popping up`, but the game doesn`t stop. I`ve just installed a Mod for longer days that also gets rid of the `loading` words so now it feels like I`m travelling continuously. Somehow, it loads on the fly! It could be my system, but I dunno, hopefully it will run well for you too. P.S, I`m also on MAX settings but with music off. yeah i love the game to played it at my friends house yesterday, but i will get it for sure now when i have my new x850xt card http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

but SeaFireLIV what do you have for HD? 8000rpm or 10000rpm drive?

El Turo
03-27-2006, 01:28 AM
My question to you fellas is this..

Is the new Oblivion game better from a story and plot involvement than the last one? Moreover, I guess what I'm asking is.. were/are you guys huge fans of the last edition as well? Because, to be honest, I didn't really dig the last one so much.

SeaFireLIV
03-27-2006, 03:25 AM
Thnx, NonWonderDog, will try that, every little helps!

@F0_Dark_P
It`s a 10000 drive, 8 meg cache. Perhaps this is why I get no Pauses between loading. Thnx to the tech forum here then (Hunter and the like) who advised a HD at this speed.

@El Turo:

Yes, I was a big fan of Morrowind, primarily because I loved the way it dropped you in the game and said, "Well, you`re on your own now!!" An rpg that treats you like an adult? yes indeed. Some people want to be led by the hand, I prefer to lead myself to my adventures following the clues I find...

Oblivion`s a little more user friendly, in that it does involve in the story right from the start (and at the same time creates your character traits). Also you can now `fast travel` to destinations, no more walking or horse riding for hours anywhere if you don`t want to, although you should try it at least once just to drink in the views... and you might find some interesting hideouts.

The devs wanted to make a game you could almost live in - and they`ve done a fair job of it.

It depends what you like and what you don`t like.

Chuck_Older
03-27-2006, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by Aimail101:
I heard Oblivion ran like **** even on FX-60 machines on the RPG forums http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif Dual 7900 GTXs and such barely pushing 30 fps on maxxed out settings. Think im going to get the xbox 360 version which can utilise AA and HDR at the same time unlike the PC version, and actually run at stable frame rates.

I'll post some screens of what it looks like on my PC without AA. You'll be surprised I think

I have checked out a couple forums about Oblivion, both before I bought it, and after, to talk about it

Most users really don't know what their PCs can do or even should be doing on those forums.

They are mostly kids. The stereotype is that kids are all PC wizards...

One of them was moaning up and down about the graphics...they were so bad, Morrowind had better gfx, blah blah...well, turns out the guy is running Oblivion on a PC that barely meets min spec, and he was talking about resolution, not graphical quality. He had to run at 800x600 and so the gfx 'really suck bigtime!' because his desktop is 1600x1200. Jeez, how objective. He also commented that his PC didn't meet spec, but that this shouldn't matter, it plays other games fine with his (unsupported) video card.

Many players also claim you can't customise your controls...yes, yes you can...a lot of them also say that when riding a horse, the horse doesn't move...yes, yes the horse does move...these guys are not objective. Almost all of the "this or that is bad" crowd are little kids. There are a few little annoying problems, but they are mostly of the "I didn't think of doing that" or "I didn't realise that" variety

If you are realistic with your settings...then there's no issues. I see a lot of gamers turn
everything all the way up, and then see how it looks, and then get rid of options...no no no

Start with conservative settings and then experiment a little with what the higher settings do. Then you can start to see what impacts your frame rates the most. Draw distance for grass is the killer for me. Oblivion is gorgeous even without it, and like I say, you can find lost arrows, or even a deer you've shot, more easily with it off. It is not an immersion killer to have the tall grass off at all

The PC version seems to be running smoother than the XBox360 version by all accounts. And
don't beleive the BS- it's not a ported console game. I've seen that comment a lot.

According to the devs, it's not a port. My guess is that they should know

We have an advantage- our PCs tend to be fairly powerful, for simming, and we are used to doing a few tweaks to the PC for performance. I hate to say it, but what I see on Oblivion forums is folks who think that their PCs are consoles- turn everything all the way up, and I have a PC with WinXP so why doesn't the game work!!11!!

Not objective and not smart. If Oblivion is running like **** on really high end machines, then the owners of those high end machines are idiots for not turning an option or two down in the grpahics settings

PLUS- the mouse is so so so so so so much better for aiming than the little stick on an Xbox360 controller. Aiming is important in Oblivion

SeaFireLIV
03-27-2006, 08:05 AM
What Chuck_Older said is extremely true, I couldn`t have said it better myself. Absolutely true.

NonWonderDog
03-27-2006, 08:55 AM
What the hell is wrong with 30 fps with HDR and full grass and view distance at 1600x1200? How can that be considered "running like ****"? That's definitely better than an XBOX can do!

I'd be happy if I could get more than 9 fps in battles at 800x600. My FX card is supposed to be supported! This is really getting irritating, because nothing seems to help. My CPU is a bit slow, too, but from what I'd gathered my 2200+ is absolutely adequate, and people running old cpus with Geforce 6600s have no problems. I'd be a lot less annoyed if Bethsoft would just come out and say that GeForce FX cards don't work with Oblivion.

Now I need to replace everything in my box. Bah.

Professor_1942
03-27-2006, 09:01 AM
This game is amazing, and great fun... and I don't even usually like RPG's.

Runs smooth as butter on my system (3700+, 7900GT, 2 GB) but I've heard it doesn't run well at all on older cards (9800 pro or worse).

Beware, it will steal your life! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Airmail109
03-27-2006, 09:49 AM
Yeah the 360 version tho runs maxxed out with HDR and AA running on HD setups, with framerates LOCKED at 30 fps, now Ive played on my mates 360 version the only time theres a slight stutter is when new parts of the world are loading.....but when your in combat with tonnes of enemines there is no slowdown AT ALL unlike reports ive heard for the PC version. To be honest for the price of a new graphics card, i could purchase a 360 hook it into my lcd monitor, with a vga cable, and run it at 1280x1024...with maxxed out graphics, 4xAA and HDR running AT THE SAME TIME unlike the pc version, an have have more stable fps.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17541999&page=43&pp=30

Feel free to check this thread on Oblivions performace.

"Look no offence mate but I disagree wholeheartedly, I'm not stupid I know how pc games have performd in the past and over the last 2 years most people will agree that pc games gfx have stagnated, yet the system requirments to play these games have quadrupled, I play farcry maxed out with HDR and it looks amazingly better than oblivion, I'd also say the same for chronicles of riddick and performance wise they both it eats it for breakfast, games developers are getting more lazzy by the day, I truely, truely, believe that if optimized properly and coded better oblivion could run at 60fps on a 3gig cpu with a 6800gt."

FOr FX card users....a lil tweak scroll down the page to get the linky as it wont work from here grrr http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17541999&page=34&pp=30

Xiolablu3
03-27-2006, 01:25 PM
The game looks great on my brothers XP2500+ rig with a ATI X800 Pro, no slowdown at all.

I hate consoles, would rather play the PC version. Feels like I am playing with a kids toy, and most of the games really really suck. They last a few hours till you are board. (I know there are a few good games, but not many).

Duex Ex, Halflife, Neverwinter Nights, Counterstrike, Il2 Sturmovik would NEVER have existed if it wasnt for the PC. Its where the true innovation is.

Airmail109
03-27-2006, 01:48 PM
Okay now im tempted to buy the PC version first before I go and buy an xbox 360 as I was under the impression after reading all the forums that i needed a super computer to run it at top settings. Ive got an AMD 64 3200+ 1.5 gig of ram and an X800XL

NonWonderDog
03-27-2006, 02:01 PM
Setting render-ahead to 0 frames doesn't do anything for my frame rates at all. Logically, it *shouldn't* improve framerates unless there's a driver bug. What it did do for me is eliminate the horrible mouse lag that usually comes with low framerates, and that's exactly what I expected it to do. 15 fps is playable with this tweak, but it still drops to 8-9 in battles, which is horribly frustrating no matter how little mouse lag there is.

I think both my gfx card and processor (2200+) are inadequate for Oblivion. Oh well, I'm off to overclock some more. The only "tweak" that's actually worked well is an increase to my video card's core clock. ...And worked it has. I've actually managed to get my 5900XT to run at 5900 Ultra clock speeds, and I went from 15 fps to nearly 25 fps. I did not expect either of those things to happen. It's stable so far, but only time will tell.


Aimail, your system should run the game just fine. Anything with better than half-assed shader 2.0 support runs like a dream. It's mainly just FX cards that can't cut it.

reverendkrv1972
03-27-2006, 04:03 PM
well.....bought it today...installed,loaded...

game decided to configure lowest settings for my system(fair enough).....and...

it runs better than Morrowind http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

the new cells loading gives a slight pause,nowt like morrowind,infact it's barely noticable.
I haven't tweaked the graphics atall...it still looks nice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

now i have to try and stay away from downloading loads of mods for it...want to play it through before i get mods...unless of course some of them are considered 'essential'

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

arcadeace
03-27-2006, 04:07 PM
I just came from HardOCP and saw this thread about a bug in the game restricting advancement. I don't play it, just thought some of you might be interested.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1036228

huggy87
03-27-2006, 04:32 PM
I'm one of the many unlucky ones having serious compatability issues with oblivion. It was terrific fun while it worked, but I have had significant problems with freezes, crashes and input problems. I have an amd fx-57, dual geforce 7800gtx, 2 gigs of ram, blah, blah, blah, and I'm not a complete dummy with computers. This game gave me so many headaches that i'm waiting for a patch or more definitive answers. It is not just me, if you look at the tech support forum it has over 400! pages in just the one week since it was released. If you are able to run this game fine, I envy you. But be wary if you buy it.

Ominae-
03-27-2006, 04:48 PM
Good thing I'm planning on buying the game a little later from now...

Anyone play around with the construction set yet?

Ernst_Rohr
03-27-2006, 05:20 PM
This game has eaten my brain for the last week, and really really put a cramp in my flying time. My brand new TrackIR is giving me lonesome stares fromt he top of my monitor even as I type this. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But, Oblivion is fantastic. I had Morrowind and really liked it, but Oblivion is far far more polished, and the depth of the game is quite amazing. The four years of development work definately shows in the game.

I run on a dual core AMD, 1GB of RAM, and a 6800 256 card, and it runs incredibly well for me. Only had 1 crash in a week+ of fairly heavy play.

I was beginning to hear engine drones and flak bursts in my sleep, so this was probably a pretty good diversion for me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MLudner
03-27-2006, 05:51 PM
I do all of my role-playing face-to-face.

I'm pretty good, too;

Got everybody convinced I'm really the manager of this place. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SeaFireLIV
03-27-2006, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Arcadeace:
I just came from HardOCP and saw this thread about a bug in the game restricting advancement. I don't play it, just thought some of you might be interested.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1036228

You should know, arcadeace that just because a forum thread says something it`s not necessarilly true. Isn`t it better to see for yourself. Anyway, i have no problem on my side...

I visit the Oblivion forums too and I wonder if I`m playing the same game. But then it was just like this with IL2/FB (as I said in my earlier posts). Most of them are spoilt, whiny children who don`t know what their PC can do or how to clean up their PC and who love blaming anything other than themselves first, devs second. they don`t think to check what they may be doing wrong to start with.

Obviously, they`ll be bugs as with any PC game (like IL2) and no doubt Patches will come to fix genuine concerns. My own gripes are not really worth mentioning at all.

reverendkrv1972 , glad you like it.

In the meantime, more views of my epic...er..walking....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/braken.jpg

No probs collecting firwood...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/bradgate.jpg

Where`s Old john? (You have to live near a place called bradgate parke in a place called Leicestershire to get this! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/blood.jpg

So trees do bleed! Actually, I just killed a ferocious wolf who I can`t actually find in the dense braken!


Sad to think that a lot of people who choose to skip-quick-travel will probably never see these inner woods...

SeaFireLIV
03-27-2006, 07:31 PM
P.s. Oblivion players be wary of some Mods as they can unbalance a game or make it really stupid. Me, i`m reall careful in what i pick (adding realism) and only have 3-4 so far...

the best mods probably won`t be out for a few months yet...

Ominae-
03-27-2006, 09:00 PM
Im big on mods, in morrowind i had about 30 or so. But at the same time im a purist, so id have to make sure all the mods arent cheap in any way. The mods were mostly ones that add more gameplay to the game (banks, boats, fishing, etc.)

If your weapon is bloody, can you clean it? If you go swimming, does the blood go off?

NonWonderDog
03-27-2006, 09:12 PM
Err, blood decals only last for 10 seconds by default, at which point they simply disappear. You can change the timer in the ini, though. Sheathing your sword probably cleans it... but I've never actually seen blood on my own sword yet, only others'.

arcadeace
03-27-2006, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Arcadeace:
I just came from HardOCP and saw this thread about a bug in the game restricting advancement. I don't play it, just thought some of you might be interested.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1036228

You should know, arcadeace that just because a forum thread says something it`s not necessarilly true. Isn`t it better to see for yourself. Anyway, i have no problem on my side...

I visit the Oblivion forums too and I wonder if I`m playing the same game. But then it was just like this with IL2/FB (as I said in my earlier posts). Most of them are spoilt, whiny children who don`t know what their PC can do or how to clean up their PC and who love blaming anything other than themselves first, devs second. they don`t think to check what they may be doing wrong to start with.

Obviously, they`ll be bugs as with any PC game (like IL2) and no doubt Patches will come to fix genuine concerns. My own gripes are not really worth mentioning at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because I don't play the game (it looks neat btw) or got info from another forum, I should not have posted this? It was on the front page of one of my daily sites describing a problem of which I thought users here might be interested in.

Its just as true forums can be the first place bugs are discovered. You should know that. I read a number of their responses and didn't see any whiners. I read users, with a link to the original forum of users, describing the problem in careful detail, and verified by some. You haven't come across it, so that's good.

Have I insulted you in your maturity, again?

Professor_1942
03-27-2006, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by huggy87:
I'm one of the many unlucky ones having serious compatability issues with oblivion. It was terrific fun while it worked, but I have had significant problems with freezes, crashes and input problems. I have an amd fx-57, dual geforce 7800gtx, 2 gigs of ram, blah, blah, blah, and I'm not a complete dummy with computers. This game gave me so many headaches that i'm waiting for a patch or more definitive answers. It is not just me, if you look at the tech support forum it has over 400! pages in just the one week since it was released. If you are able to run this game fine, I envy you. But be wary if you buy it.

I've had a few annoying glitches as well, the most common one being that I sometimes can't move into a new area and my player just gets stuck and bounces up and down when I try. I have to reload the last save then all is fine. Last night I had three crashes in a row when trying to go west of Skingrad. Eventually it worked...

SeaFireLIV
03-28-2006, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by Ominae-:
Im big on mods, in morrowind i had about 30 or so. But at the same time im a purist, so id have to make sure all the mods arent cheap in any way. The mods were mostly ones that add more gameplay to the game (banks, boats, fishing, etc.)

If your weapon is bloody, can you clean it? If you go swimming, does the blood go off?

Yea, by default blood only lasts 10 seconds, but it`s easily alterable in the ini.file, so i`ve got it lasting 60 secs for now, but I could extend the time even longer. In fact, the game can be quite blood with a little ini tweaking...

It comes off when you sheathe your sword, dunno about swimming.

yea, Arcadeace, you`ve hurt my macho maturity, stop it!

arcadeace
03-28-2006, 02:45 AM
Yeah, well. Lets face it Seafire I'll never understand your maturity: never know what to say or know when to stop http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

I love that emotioncon don't you? It is sooo gay.

HuninMunin
03-28-2006, 04:04 AM
Hey all.
Hi Sea, maybe you can help me with this one.
I've tweaked the "decallifetime" and "minblooddamage".
Are there any other things I can do in the "gore-departement"?

(Im not into splatter games I just feel that blood and guts are essential to any fantasy-game) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SeaFireLIV
03-28-2006, 07:45 AM
Whatever floats your boat, Arcadeace. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


HuninMunin,

bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry=1

Try changing 1 to 15 (or less if wish) in [Display]

I haven`t touched (or seen) minblooddamage what`s the best setting and what exactly does it d, m8?

HuninMunin
03-28-2006, 08:00 AM
Thanks first,
you can find "fMinBloodDamage=1.0000" under "combat".
I dont now for sure, but it seems to manipulate the amount of blood that is caused by any of your blows or shots.
I dont now what the best value is (i didn`t test it enough really), but I have mine set to 10.0000.

HuninMunin
03-28-2006, 08:10 AM
A little update.
Since I changed the value to 10, the game shows a lot more blood on the player and the armor.
Now I always look like the last survivor of a "Braveheart" battle after fighting. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

NonWonderDog
03-28-2006, 08:12 AM
I had assumed that was the minimum amount of damage needed before a blood decal was created. Report back if it increases blood. (OOPS, instaposted)

Changing "bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry" from 1 to 15 or so should have no effect. The "b" means boolean -- true or false. Anything other than zero is true.

HuninMunin
03-28-2006, 08:20 AM
So, if your right then

a) some of the other modified lines has caused the increase of gore for me

and

b) I`m always inflicting more then 10 points of damage

Does that "point" relate to the attack-points it shows when I look at a weapon in the inventory?

Capt._Tenneal
03-28-2006, 09:10 AM
Yeah, I picked up the game last Thursday and it's been my life really since then. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm even thinking of upgrading to a PC with similar specs to Seafire's. Mine now is Athlon XP 2500, 1.7 GB memory, 6600GT card. I run it at 1280 x 1024, but with HDR or Bloom off and Landscape, Buildings and Trees distant off, but with max viewing distance, and it's running smoothly.

I haven't even gotten past the meeting with Brother Jauffre yet, I keep restarting with a new character, lol.

arcadeace
03-28-2006, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Whatever floats your boat, Arcadeace. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Why whine? You've been here for about 3 years, stop falling into the same idiotic presumptions taking yourself so serious. Like another member recently said your wick is so easily lit. Compensation with Mr. Maturity. I don't know anyone in person so capable of misjudging the completely unassuming time and again.

Only posters who qualify according to protective nonsense... silly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

SeaFireLIV
03-28-2006, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by NonWonderDog:


Changing "bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry" from 1 to 15 or so should have no effect. The "b" means boolean -- true or false. Anything other than zero is true.

Hmm, it seemed to have an effect, I thought... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gifthnx, anyway. We`re all learning what does what at this early stage...

SeaFireLIV
03-28-2006, 10:44 AM
By the way, having Oblivion on a PC over an Xbox360 is already beginning to pay off. I thought it would take longer but veteran moddes of morrowind have already ready released some excellent Mods for Oblivion.

For example, The UI Mod, has got to be one of the best cos it makes everything much more accessible; everything in the inventory and maps is streamlined further and easier to see in a glance, much more PC-ish.

Steal mods that allow you to sell what you steal but still with harsh penalties if you`re caught and many more!

Really, a wise man gets oblivion on a PC. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Pig_Mac
03-28-2006, 11:09 AM
Some .ini tweaks here: http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=299166

Good for people with too fast or too slow machines to run it. I didn't like the game in the start, and my mate hated it and sold it. But after a while it gets almost as good as morrowind were back in those days. ( I didn't like the bloodmoon expansion since at the age of 33 I'm still really scared of werewolves! :P )

Xiolablu3
03-28-2006, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Steal mods that allow you to sell what you steal but still with harsh penalties if you`re caught and many more!

:


I am sort of glad if this is implemented (I havent played it yet) It was too easy to steal expensive stuff in morrowind and make tons of money very quickly.

You could simply hide round a corner in a shop and steal everything as long as you couldnt be seen by the other characters (even if they were 2 feet away) Has this been changed??

SeaFireLIV
03-28-2006, 11:41 AM
Well I never play a thief, always the down-to-earth simple Warrior, but sometimes I have to steal. As a warrior my stealing abilities are rubbish so i`m not sure how hard it is to do. A lot of `thieves` on the forums complain about `psychic` guards so maybe it`s harder to get away with now.

What I`ve discovered is when i go into a building like a shop, i tend to be watched wherever i go... round the corner, I`m followed. Up the stairs, he or she is staring at me from the corner. Sometimes they even follow you if you go into another room and shut the door! Agh! Get away from me! At other times they get really stroppy, demanding that you leave or they`ll call the guard.

Stackhouse25th
03-28-2006, 11:44 AM
i got it, i used the cheats, i am now the proud owner of 3 houses, 3 horses, and over 2000 stolen goods, and i have about 2,000,000 gold, and 2000 lockpicks.

bazzaah2
03-28-2006, 02:44 PM
looks great and is fun as well. The Oblivion forums are overwhelmed and I just can't get regsitered to ask this question, so maybe one of you can help me. I have a problem with control of my character - it's like A the move left button is permanently down so I'm alsways moving to the left. If it were a joystick I'd calibrate it! Weird. Any ideas?

SeaFireLIV
03-28-2006, 03:43 PM
bazzaah2, I think i can answer this cos I had a similar prob at first. Go into Oblivion control settings and `blank` all joystick settings so nothing is under a joystick control(I think Escape does it) Disconnect your joystick/s from your PC and restart Oblivion. Everything should work.

Then switch off your PC completely, reinsert your joystick and Oblivion should not detect it any more.

Your stick/s should still work with IL2/FB as normal without interfering with Oblivion. Worked for me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

bazzaah2
03-29-2006, 03:06 AM
got it sorted thanks SeaFireIV. In the end all I had to do was load my FB map under CH manager and all was well!!

Amazing game! Jaw dropping visuals and love the RPG side.

F0_Dark_P
03-29-2006, 05:59 AM
just installed Oblivion, and it runns nice i must say on my 2.8Mhz pentium 4 1gb ram and x850xt card

but i like to se my fps, so how do you enable it?..

bazzaah2
03-29-2006, 06:57 AM
use FRAPS. A qucik search will get you the link.

NonWonderDog
03-29-2006, 09:56 AM
You don't need fraps, just open the console with the tilde key (~) and type "tdt".

That will bring up the debug text.

fordfan25
03-29-2006, 10:18 AM
is this game pay to play?

HuninMunin
03-29-2006, 10:39 AM
Its single player only.
So no.

fordfan25
03-29-2006, 11:19 AM
WHAT!!!!!! a single player game ......ill be right back....time to see how fast this montecarlo can go......

SeaFireLIV
03-29-2006, 01:21 PM
More views of my travels so far (especially edited so as not to give any important plots/ other details away). The thing is, the views are so great, i can`t help going into 3rd person just for the odd screenshot - I usually work in 1st person.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/closeship.jpg

Ship harbour...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/shipview.jpg

More harbour, with guard...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/forest.jpg

early morning travelling...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/horseguard.jpg

Bumped into a trail guard doing the rounds along the city path.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/nightescort.jpg

Night time. The great thing is the guard will help you if you`re attacked by highwaymen or other. I actually stuck with this horse guard all the way to the next city!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/snow.jpg
Made it to some nameless town. Snow! Bootiful!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/bigsheorc.jpg

Ok, Orc ladies are BIG! I still tried chatting her up!

Really excellent game. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ominae-
03-29-2006, 08:49 PM
Now thats just a tease, especially for me. I've been a morrowind buff, so I have been waiting for this game for a while. Too bad my PC is so old, it doesn't even have a dvd player http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Just for kicks, think that game could run on a:

2.53GHz Pent4
512 RAM
9500Pro

(Doubt it would run well, but I plan to have an extensive upgrade sooner or later)

NonWonderDog
03-30-2006, 08:51 AM
The 9500Pro is awfully low-end, but people are reporting that the game runs pretty well on a 9600Pro. I don't really know what the difference is. A 9500 is listed as the minimum ATI card in the readme, so it should be possible.

After I overclocked my video card core by 15%, Oblivion actually runs acceptably on my system:

Athlon XP 2200+ (1.8 GHz)
1.5 Gb DDR RAM
GeForce FX 5900XT (Running at 450/770 instead of 390/700)

I get an average of 18 fps, fluctuating from 30-40 in a dungeon to 16-25 outside to 8-10 in a shop. FX cards are getting to be notoriously poor performers in Oblivion, though. Radeon 9600 cards reportedly run the game MUCH faster.

fordfan25
03-30-2006, 07:59 PM
WOW what an awsome game. iv dreamed of a game like this sence i was a little kid "zelda was kool then". is kinda hard on the hardwear though. 1024/768 no AA 2X AF no HDR or bloom slide's for shadows grass ect cut to 1/4 textures high ect and when out side i hit in the mid 20's most of the time. 3000 64bit cpu 1 gig kingston 3200 ram and a slightly OCed 6800gt. deffenitly a recource hog. But wow what a game. only thing it NEED's is a mini fishing segment. all those kool locations around rivers streams ponds ocean ect a good fishing mini game would be nice.

one qustion. does any one else hate the RATS lol

fordfan25
03-30-2006, 08:00 PM
by the wa seafire. you need to get your guy outa that crapy armor and into some chain mail. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and lose the sissy pirate sword and get your self a steel long sword http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ATLAS_DEATH
03-30-2006, 08:56 PM
I snagged Oblivion on it's release day. I knew I need to upgrade my comp sometimes soon.. but thought I could slip by for the time being...

well.... my wimpy computer is as follows... P4 2.66ghz, 1gig corsair 333mhz ddr, BFG 5900xt OC'd..... Now it plays IL2 fine at 1280x960 with high settings... but this oblivion...

I have it set to 640x480 with all features off and my card set to high performance... wee... I must get 5 fps in shops and 10-15 in the open... doh.. I need a new everything http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I'd post some pics of my adventures but you'd probably hurl... or not realize it's the same game..

fordfan25
03-31-2006, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by ATLAS_DEATH:
I snagged Oblivion on it's release day. I knew I need to upgrade my comp sometimes soon.. but thought I could slip by for the time being...

well.... my wimpy computer is as follows... P4 2.66ghz, 1gig corsair 333mhz ddr, BFG 5900xt OC'd..... Now it plays IL2 fine at 1280x960 with high settings... but this oblivion...

I have it set to 640x480 with all features off and my card set to high performance... wee... I must get 5 fps in shops and 10-15 in the open... doh.. I need a new everything http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I'd post some pics of my adventures but you'd probably hurl... or not realize it's the same game.. i feel for you man. i know JUST how you feel....not right now but in the past lol. thats why i bic** so much about these new PC trends such as SLI/crossfire/duel core cpu and PPU cards. BAH. well at least its out on the 360 for the lucky ones who have a 360.... or unlucky depending on how u look at it. it is said to me to see that your specs are now "wimpy" a year ago thay would have been considerd rather good. it moves to fast. any way good luck on tweaking the game. iv only been playing it for 2 days now but both nights iv been slaying goblins till 3:00 in the morning. i can tell that this is going to be one of those games that i'll be playing hopefully for a long time. hopeing for a fishing mod my self http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SeaFireLIV
03-31-2006, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
by the wa seafire. you need to get your guy outa that crapy armor and into some chain mail. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and lose the sissy pirate sword and get your self a steel long sword http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LOL. Actually, I prefer the old fashioned steel blade, but I have a Japanese Katana now, which is stronger and deadlier than a broadsword (which was apparently the case in reality too).

TacticalYak3
03-31-2006, 10:14 AM
All you Oblivion addicts! Can't believe you would abandon your fight for the virtual skies, even for a minute playing this game!

OK I'm playing it too lads.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif Amazing little gem, isn't she? Seen some posts concerning fellow Xbox 360 users. While there are some minor hiccups when moving quickly out in the open, by and large this is one terrific experience playing on my 34-inch widescreen HDTV with surround sound (and easy chair). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Thanks to all the folks who have posted screenshots. That's one feature I do miss when trying to share my Xbox 360 gaming with others, as pictures from the camera just don't do it justice. Beautiful graphics and quality music.

http://www.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumImages/Oblivion.jpg

TS!

fordfan25
03-31-2006, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fordfan25:
by the wa seafire. you need to get your guy outa that crapy armor and into some chain mail. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and lose the sissy pirate sword and get your self a steel long sword http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LOL. Actually, I prefer the old fashioned steel blade, but I have a Japanese Katana now, which is stronger and deadlier than a broadsword (which was apparently the case in reality too). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>"which was apparently the case in reality too" depends on the when and wear. and who was useing them. id put my mony on a talinted northman with a broadsword over the best samuri with a katana. there are a few video's out there of real life weapons masters who have studied the old sword fighting teaching's. and demanstrate the techniqes. and its NOTHING like on lord of the rings ect. you would not beleave the movies thay can come up with for those weapons. not just the blade but the pomle and hand gaurdes are very deadly.the eastern "martial arts" have just become more poular and were the last to realy die out other than maby fencing. the swoads them selves ranged from poor iron and bronze to very well crafted folded high carbon steel. the japo's figured out the best tech earlier on i think. And dont get me wrong though i love the eastern style. when i was a bit younger i studied martial arts. my teacher was very could with things like swords,staffs ect and it was a blast to watch him practice. i got into it just for the fun. being a kid any thing sharp and shiny was fun lol. but iv grown to the thought that im much better with my 357 sig glock lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

fordfan25
03-31-2006, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by TacticalYak3:
All you Oblivion addicts! Can't believe you would abandon your fight for the virtual skies, even for a minute playing this game!

OK I'm playing it too lads.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif Amazing little gem, isn't she? Seen some posts concerning fellow Xbox 360 users. While there are some minor hiccups when moving quickly out in the open, by and large this is one terrific experience playing on my 34-inch widescreen HDTV with surround sound (and easy chair). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Thanks to all the folks who have posted screenshots. That's one feature I do miss when trying to share my Xbox 360 gaming with others, as pictures from the camera just don't do it justice. Beautiful graphics and quality music.

http://www.geocities.com/ohearnsmcmm@rogers.com/ForumImages/Oblivion.jpg

TS! yea if i had a 360 i would have gotten that version as well and stuck back the PC version for the day when i have a better rig. but then im betting the mods will be much slower in comeing for the 360 version. there are already a couple of very large mods wich add a whole new single player campaign and a tottol conversion well in production. 360 version would just be nice to have so i could see all the kool uber graphics with out that great 17 FPS lol

Badsight.
03-31-2006, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
"which was apparently the case in reality too" depends on the when and wear. and who was useing them. id put my mony on a talinted northman with a broadsword over the best samuri with a katana. your talented northman would have had his head chopped off after the samurai's blade hacked the guys sword half

seriously , if theirs a katana in the game i must find it & enchant the hell out of it : D

TacticalYak3
03-31-2006, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
yea if i had a 360 i would have gotten that version as well and stuck back the PC version for the day when i have a better rig. but then im betting the mods will be much slower in comeing for the 360 version. there are already a couple of very large mods wich add a whole new single player campaign and a tottol conversion well in production. 360 version would just be nice to have so i could see all the kool uber graphics with out that great 17 FPS lol

True enough mate. I can't argue the benefit of the PC with regards to mods and customization. As I understand there can be patches and addons via Xbox Live (internet).

Moreover, I personally strongly believe just playing the main quests, not to mention all the other side quests, in the vanilla version being more than enough both in time and return on my purchase.

If money wasn't an issue I would purchase the PC version just to compare. My rig (P4 3.06 HT, 1 GB RDRAM, 6800 nVIDIA 256 MB card) could probably play it reasonably well, plus I hear that top end machines don't experience the stutters when moving quickly in the open environments (not to suggest mine is top end but with some tweaking it would be interesting to see if I could get it to perform really smoothly).

TS!

NonWonderDog
03-31-2006, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Badsight.:
your talented northman would have had his head chopped off after the samurai's blade hacked the guys sword half

seriously , if theirs a katana in the game i must find it & enchant the hell out of it : D

You do know that that's impossible, right? A katana will not cut a western longsword, and will probably chip its own overly-sharp blade in the process of trying. Add armor to the equation and it's no contest. Chain and plate beats wooden lamellar.

The western martial arts were truely impressive -- I can only imagine them being even more impressive if the reinactors were actually fit. (http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif -- Just kidding.)

There are katanas in the game though. Just not many. There aren't the iron/steel/whatever katanas anymore; there's only one type of katana and one type of misnamed nodachi.

NonWonderDog
03-31-2006, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by ATLAS_DEATH:
I snagged Oblivion on it's release day. I knew I need to upgrade my comp sometimes soon.. but thought I could slip by for the time being...

well.... my wimpy computer is as follows... P4 2.66ghz, 1gig corsair 333mhz ddr, BFG 5900xt OC'd..... Now it plays IL2 fine at 1280x960 with high settings... but this oblivion...

I have it set to 640x480 with all features off and my card set to high performance... wee... I must get 5 fps in shops and 10-15 in the open... doh.. I need a new everything http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I'd post some pics of my adventures but you'd probably hurl... or not realize it's the same game..

I've got nearly the same setup, but I get 20 fps on average at 800x600 with max texture size and full draw distance. You just need to do a lot of ini editing (the ini is in "My Documents/My Games/Oblivion/Oblivion.ini"). Search for and change the following settings to the values listed below:

bUseEyeEnvMapping=0
bUseThreadedBlood=1
bUseThreadedMorpher=1
iPreloadSizeLimit=524288000
bEnableBoundingVolumeOcclusion=1
bUseThreadedTempEffects=1
bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1
iShadowMapResolution=256
iCanopyShadowScale=256
iThreads=20
iOpenMPLevel=20

Most of this is supposedly for multi-core processors, but it speeds things up on my old Athlon XP anyway. If your P4 has hyperthreading you should see an even bigger difference than I do. iPreloadSizeLimit makes the biggest difference, though.

Otherwise, just make sure you have shadows turned off (although one of the tweaks above makes them a bit more FX friendly, they don't look very good without blending that FX cards can't do). In the driver panel you have to turn vsync off and set max render-ahead to zero frames (download coolbits if you don't have the option).

I haven't experimented much with bloom on, but I'd probably have to revert to low textures to run it. There are ini tweaks to make the bloom more noticible if you can run it.

If you want it to be bloodier, change the following:

fDecalLifetime=60.0000
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=40
bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry=1


If this doesn't work and you just want it to run no matter how bad it looks, you can change the following:

bDoSpecularPass=0

That should get rid of bump mapping.

fordfan25
03-31-2006, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Badsight.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fordfan25:
"which was apparently the case in reality too" depends on the when and wear. and who was useing them. id put my mony on a talinted northman with a broadsword over the best samuri with a katana. your talented northman would have had his head chopped off after the samurai's blade hacked the guys sword half

seriously , if theirs a katana in the game i must find it & enchant the hell out of it : D </div></BLOCKQUOTE> thats if thay lived in a fantasy world wear a samuri could hack a broad sword in half. alas for you poor samuri in the real would even if just for agrgument sake the samuri sword was physicly caple of cuting threw another sword a persone would not be able to swing said swords hard enough.

fordfan25
03-31-2006, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by NonWonderDog:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ATLAS_DEATH:
I snagged Oblivion on it's release day. I knew I need to upgrade my comp sometimes soon.. but thought I could slip by for the time being...

well.... my wimpy computer is as follows... P4 2.66ghz, 1gig corsair 333mhz ddr, BFG 5900xt OC'd..... Now it plays IL2 fine at 1280x960 with high settings... but this oblivion...

I have it set to 640x480 with all features off and my card set to high performance... wee... I must get 5 fps in shops and 10-15 in the open... doh.. I need a new everything http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I'd post some pics of my adventures but you'd probably hurl... or not realize it's the same game..

I've got nearly the same setup, but I get 20 fps on average at 800x600 with max texture size and full draw distance. You just need to do a lot of ini editing (the ini is in "My Documents/My Games/Oblivion/Oblivion.ini"). Search for and change the following settings to the values listed below:

bUseEyeEnvMapping=0
bUseThreadedBlood=1
bUseThreadedMorpher=1
iPreloadSizeLimit=524288000
bEnableBoundingVolumeOcclusion=1
bUseThreadedTempEffects=1
bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1
iShadowMapResolution=256
iCanopyShadowScale=256
iThreads=20
iOpenMPLevel=20

Most of this is supposedly for multi-core processors, but it speeds things up on my old Athlon XP anyway. If your P4 has hyperthreading you should see an even bigger difference than I do. iPreloadSizeLimit makes the biggest difference, though.

Otherwise, just make sure you have shadows turned off (although one of the tweaks above makes them a bit more FX friendly, they don't look very good without blending that FX cards can't do). In the driver panel you have to turn vsync off and set max render-ahead to zero frames (download coolbits if you don't have the option).

I haven't experimented much with bloom on, but I'd probably have to revert to low textures to run it. There are ini tweaks to make the bloom more noticible if you can run it.

If you want it to be bloodier, change the following:

fDecalLifetime=60.0000
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=40
bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry=1


If this doesn't work and you just want it to run no matter how bad it looks, you can change the following:

bDoSpecularPass=0

That should get rid of bump mapping. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> on my rig useing bloom lighting gives a reduction of roughly 3 FPS while HDR hits at between 10 and 15. in 800/600 res going from med textures to high give's a reduction of about 5 but does induce more "hitching" or stutters. as far as looks biggst deffernce i can see is up real close like your sword sheild ect. swords with ingraveing on the blades look kinda bad when in low texture mod.

fordfan25
04-01-2006, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Badsight.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fordfan25:
"which was apparently the case in reality too" depends on the when and wear. and who was useing them. id put my mony on a talinted northman with a broadsword over the best samuri with a katana. your talented northman would have had his head chopped off after the samurai's blade hacked the guys sword half

seriously , if theirs a katana in the game i must find it & enchant the hell out of it : D </div></BLOCKQUOTE> ALSO BD. a tip 4 u. when you can compete in the colosum and get up about 5K then go to the shops in the main city's market there are two samuri swords for sale. one is even a two hander. both are enchanted and very powerfull.

ATLAS_DEATH
04-01-2006, 09:52 PM
Thanks NonWonderDog! I just did the edit and will now run it and see what I get...

JFC_Rautaristi
04-03-2006, 09:53 AM
I got mine yesterday and i love it.

I'm running it with distances and view distance on full and 1152xsomething or something like that resolution.

I have other settings very low though, but it runs smoothly now even on my low end system:

2.8Ghz celeron D
radeon 9600 pro
512mb ddr 400mhz

Capt._Tenneal
04-04-2006, 12:24 PM
Official mods have been released by Bethesda :

https://obliviondownloads.com/StoreCatalog_ProductList.aspx?SubCategoryId=1

and they're pay per mod. Is this a trend now with developers ? Makes you appreciate the stuff Oleg does for us really. Imagine if he went this route and charged per new aircraft ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Ominae-
04-04-2006, 02:51 PM
Theres allready plenty of Oblivion mods out, try here:

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.List

And of course, its free!

Flakwalker
04-04-2006, 04:10 PM
How it is compared to Morrowind? I mean on quest, items, etc.