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Amer82nd
10-10-2004, 03:11 PM
I wonder what Battleships are modeled. I hope the Peensylvania class( USS Arizona), North Caolina Class(USS NC and USS Wash) South Dakota and Iowa Class.

The key ship after Pearl Harbor I think is the USS NC. She established herself in a AAA role and was very succesful. She was the 1st Fast Battleship class to enter the war after Paerl Harbor. SHe earned 15 Battlestars and was even hit by a Japaneese torpedo and after 15 minutes was back in her position under full steam in the Convoy.

Captain_Avatar
10-11-2004, 10:58 AM
Would really like to see an Iowa class BB. I served on the USS Wisconsin BB64 when she was recommisioned in 1988.

Fliger747
10-11-2004, 07:04 PM
From the earlier screenies we know the King George V or Prince of Wales is in there. Ships in the thick of the fighting would make sense, Washington, SODAK, Kongo, Hiei, Krishima. AS carrier escorts the Iowa's (and Alaska's) were magnificent steamers, those task forces having unparalleled power and mobility.

Blottogg
10-12-2004, 06:57 AM
Guys, from this thread:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=26310365&m=543009237

We're getting (at least initially):

Ships

Great Britain
Prince of Wales Battleship
Illustrious Class Carrier
Leander Class Cruiser
County Class Cruiser
Oribi Class Destroyer

Japan
Haruna Battleship
Okikawa Maru
Kimikawa Maru
Fishing Vessel
Takao Class Cruiser
Akizuki Class Destroyer
Kagero Class Destroyer
P-102 Patrol Boat
Daihatsu Landing Craft
Akagi Class Carrier
Midget Submarine
Submarine
Zuikaku Class Carrier
Shihano Class Carrier
Kaga Class Carrier

United States
Colorado Battleship
Yorktown Carrier
Arizona Battleship
Liberty Dry Cargo Ship
Portland Class Cruiser
Essex Class Carrier
Lexington Class Carrier
LVT-2
LVT-4
DUKW
Gato Class Submarine
Yacht
Fletcher Class Destroyer
APD-5 Amphibious Support
Wickes Class Destroyer
CVE Escort Carrier

Tater-SW-
10-12-2004, 08:37 AM
The US CVE is Casablanca Class, BTW. The Shamrock Bay was shown in one of the movies.

The Wickes Class "flush deckers" (DDs 75-185) are the 4-stackers also shown in one of the movies or screenshots. A few saw service at Guadalcanal (and were sunk). A bunch went to the RN (including the Wickes herself) under lend-lease. Some were converted to minelayers and minesweepers.

The APD-5 in the list is actually DD-90---a Wickes Class DD. 17 Wickes were turned into APDs.

BTW, 3 of the "ships" in the USN list are just amphibeous armor--the LVTs and the DUKW.

tater

Chuck_Older
10-12-2004, 10:37 AM
Pfft. I just hope we don't have so many Golden BBs in PF.

Lateralus_14
10-12-2004, 10:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Amer82nd:
I wonder what Battleships are modeled. I hope the Peensylvania class( USS Arizona), North Caolina Class(USS NC and USS Wash) South Dakota and Iowa Class.

The key ship after Pearl Harbor I think is the USS NC. She established herself in a AAA role and was very succesful. She was the 1st Fast Battleship class to enter the war after Paerl Harbor. SHe earned 15 Battlestars and was even hit by a Japaneese torpedo and after 15 minutes was back in her position under full steam in the Convoy. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, I didn't know that. I live in NC and have visted her three times. Its amazing. You can walk through virtually the entire ship, and there's lots of props and dioramas to give visitors a sense of everyday life onoard. I've taken a guided tour as well, but the guide didn't mention anything about a torpedo hit...

Fliger747
10-12-2004, 11:21 AM
The North carolina was hit in the same torpedo spread that sunk the Wasp. She was the only US fast battleship to be hit by a torpedo. The hit, abeam the forward 16" turret on the port side was at the most vunerable point in te protective system. Flash did penetrate to the foward magazine but no fire resulted. The hole was 18'x32' and an estimated 930 tons of sea water were admitted.

Examination of this damage caused a proposal for the Iowa's to be bulged abeam the forward magazines. In the final eventno modifications were carried out.

Gunny124
10-12-2004, 12:29 PM
I'd like to see the South Dakota class in there. That was BB-60's class. Gorgeous old ship that the state of Alabama was lucky enough to purchase before she was scraped. Nine battle stars herself.

Fliger747
10-12-2004, 01:00 PM
Indeed, SODAK and her sisters, and the North Carolinas were almost constant companions of the Fast Carriers. Our list of BB's here is a list of slow TARGETS, not the fast escorts that were a critical portion of the fleets, both Japanese and American.

'Pense-tucky' (had a neighbor who served on Pennsy) and their ilk were there for shore bombardment but were far to slow to travel with the fast carrier task groups. You might find them hanging around with some of the CVE's and the invasion fleets.

Tater-SW-
10-12-2004, 02:49 PM
Wasn't the North Carolina actually in the other TF from the Wasp at the time? I seem to recal an attack that hiw on US CV, and the spread went beyond several miles, then hit more ships. Guess I could dig out FT:Guadalcanal and check...

tater

Fliger747
10-12-2004, 05:47 PM
That same spread also hit one of the escorting destroyers (which eventually sunk). The most effective single spread fired during the war.

Better to be lucky than good, any day!

ElAurens
10-12-2004, 06:13 PM
My next door neighbor while I was growing up served in the engine room company aboard USS Alabama. He recalled the time they took 3 Japanese "500 pound" bombs amidships and kept right on going. The US late BBs were tough.

VW-IceFire
10-12-2004, 08:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ElAurens:
My next door neighbor while I was growing up served in the engine room company aboard USS Alabama. He recalled the time they took 3 Japanese "500 pound" bombs amidships and kept right on going. The US late BBs were tough. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I can believe it...I watched the special on the Bismarck. They went down to examine the damage and find the truth as to what really sank her. The torpedos that hit it didn't sink it (they broke the first hull but not the second). The numerous shells that hit it blew the superstructure to pieces but did not sink it. The best probably explanation is that the ship was scuttled by the remainder of the crew. It was otherwise doomed...not able to manuver and essentially living hell onboard.

Fliger747
10-12-2004, 09:19 PM
Armor protection in any warship is a real compomise. The SODAK in the 2nd Naval Battle of Guadalcanal was put out of action, at least temporarally by numerous (around 50) hits in the lightly armored superstructure. She was tough enough to not require any really serious structural repair as none of the belt, turret or barbette armor was pierced. Her consort, the Washington remained un-hit and undetected and in an impressive display of night gunnery utterly destroyed her opponent the Krishima in seven minuites.

Ya cann'a armour everywhere, and there are tradeoffs with offensive power and speed/endurance. It took about 10,000 tons of displacement for the Iowa's to gain 6 knots over SODAK and her kin.

owlwatcher
10-13-2004, 10:48 AM
Will the prewar USN BBs be prewar or the late war rebuilt configurations?

Fliger747
10-13-2004, 03:50 PM
I have no idea, but the Lexington was in a pre-war configuration in the shots we have seen so far.

Falcon_41
10-13-2004, 04:27 PM
I don't see the Yamashiro or Fuso class BB on the list. Those are the ships with the extremely tall pagoda-type superstructures.

Very impressive.


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