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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 12:24 AM
Which side (axis or allied) do you like to fly for? And what countries planes do you like to use and why?

Ive asked people and there seems to be a variety of reasons,

challenge
getting the most kills
they are from that country themselves and therefore like flying those planes
some planes just "feel" right
need for speed
"the plane looks cool"
and some people just refuse to fly planes because "they are russian" or because "they are german" etc

these are all reasons ive heard about why people tend to favor some planes over others, what are your reasons?

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 12:24 AM
Which side (axis or allied) do you like to fly for? And what countries planes do you like to use and why?

Ive asked people and there seems to be a variety of reasons,

challenge
getting the most kills
they are from that country themselves and therefore like flying those planes
some planes just "feel" right
need for speed
"the plane looks cool"
and some people just refuse to fly planes because "they are russian" or because "they are german" etc

these are all reasons ive heard about why people tend to favor some planes over others, what are your reasons?

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 12:31 AM
I'm usually VVS as I like their aircraft.

I'm now trying to learn to fly LW aircraft but I'm horrible.

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 12:37 AM
Hmm, I don't really prefer a side or a plane type - I prefer the look of the plane and its abilities.

Like the Sturmovik. Deadly, graceful and can hold its own in a firefight.

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 01:41 AM
I seem to do best in the Thunderbolts.
Besides...they where my fave as a kid and they
look like they mean business.

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 01:49 AM
u.s mostly but sometimes germen or russian and now jap. for something diff. i qusse becouse im amarican and all most all the movies i watch is from the u.s point of veiw.pluse the u.s fighters are just so much better than the rest. lol j/k. guys.........or am i??????

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 03:57 AM
i really really dislike people who dont like certian planes because of nationality

thats why i host with LW on red & VVS on blue

ive caught a few nationalistic dorks out B4

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 05:08 AM
Well I like VVS due to more variety of planes to fly by far. But there's a downside too, since all you ever go up against are 109s!! And once a year or so you get a few 190s to kill. If you fly LW, then you go up against the endless variety of red planes, but you have to fly only 109s or 190s!! You can't win!!

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 05:10 AM
I prefer flying the B-17G Flying Fortress. Despite the fact that it doesn't have a cockpit or bombsight, it's just awesome to take her up in the skies and into the battle, and it gets even better when you're flying formation with one or more other B-17s.

Why the Fortress? I think she's simply an impressive sight, she's durable and many legends and storys, both good and bad ones, are linked to the name "B-17". Bad ones, let's just say "Schweinfurt", good ones, the "Memphis Belle".

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 05:19 AM
Which side do I prefer to fly?
German

Why?
Because I tend to like to the German aircraft better then the Russians.

What planes do I prefer?
Any Bf-109 aslong as it's not a G-6 or G-6 Late [G-6/AS OK!]

Why?
Lets see, speed, firepower, climbrate, and sexy lines and curves too!

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 05:51 AM
Luft

He-111 H6 handsome looking plane

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 06:14 AM
LW and FW's.

Why? When you hit something with a FW, it stays hit. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

And when a FW gets it, you still have a good chance of getting home.

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 06:38 AM
I like the Mustang and the Jug. However I also like theP-39,La5,Ki84,FW-190,La-7,Yaks and the P-40s (All of them) In short I like most of the planes in FB. I like the Frank and the 190 for thier roll. I usually fly red..psychological I guess...when i go blue I like to keep the planeset accurate..unless it is already a free for all. Thats what got me into the 190s..... I had to go blue and said what the hey.. I wanted to see what all the fuss was about.... My overall favorite is the Mustang though...always has been...always will be as long as I am in a WW2 sim. IMO FB has the most diverse yet flyable planeset of any sim. None of them are perfect but each one has it's own personality and all of them are better than in any other sim.

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 07:14 AM
Ilike the bombers, the He-111 H6 and TB3. I like the challenge of multi engines and the taxiing in the Tb3. Plus I find it more fun to make holes in the ground than to try to find an elusive enemy airplane in a very big sky.

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 07:47 AM
I don't have a preference for nation. Back in my CFS2 daze I used to fly exclusively US birds, but then realized I was missing out on half the game. Since I've started w/ Il2 I've tried to fly a variety of aircraft, but I do have my favorites.

U.S.A.A.F> P39, my first love and the AC I fly the best. I've had great success w/ the pony and Jug as well, but haven't spent too much time w/ them. The P40 is a mystery to me.

LW> I'm a 109 man, tried like hell to get into the whole FW thing, but unless I see tons of bombers, I leave the 190's in the hangar

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 07:49 AM
Brakovitch wrote:
- Ilike the bombers, the He-111 H6 and TB3. I like the
- challenge of multi engines and the taxiing in the
- Tb3. Plus I find it more fun to make holes in the
- ground than to try to find an elusive enemy airplane
- in a very big sky.
-
-

I like this planes on scripted servers too where it makes sense to fly em. Its way harder to fly and stay alive and archieve mission objectives with a Bomber than just do dumb Bombershooting with a Fighterplanes. B17 is one of the better defended Planes but the ai is just odd you can fly Batturns with it and the control cables dont complain about it.

Regards,
Hyperion

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 08:04 AM
Litvyak::
-- Yak-1/Yak-1B

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Nice to see something different.

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 08:36 AM
LW 109's cause I like 30mm's, climb rate, and well i don't like to fly the 190 myself so guess what that leaves /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 08:37 AM
VVS
Currently flying the Mosca and the MiG-3 AM-38

Why VVS?
After years of flightsims set in Western Europe or the Pacific it was refreshing to see things from the often forgotten Russian side of things. And it was great to fly in the Normanide-Niemen for a while.

Whay those planes?
Crap planes all the way /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 09:41 AM
Me109, because I hate to wait to get altitude only for ripping my wing later on! And besides teh Me109 is mainstay for Axis for all long war, so you have to manage only one AC, it's all you need from 1941-45. Also Me109, if flown right can cope with anything, maybe except of P51s (especially well flonw ones)

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 09:58 AM
Check the sig.

i fly the US planes 90% of the time cause i'm from the US. Am i nationalistic? Hell yea! Do i care if you don't like it. Hell NO! I will fly VVS planes from time to time. Like the Yak 9K...i Love that 1 big cannon! & i love the IL-2. Always have. it's my favorite VVS plane.

Japanese planes...
I'm partial to the Ki. the flight performance fits my flying style best. I really hate B&Z as it takes little skill. T&B is more fun for me. but with the US planes in fb B&Z is about all you can do.

German planes all suck. Overmodeld crap planes. MY Opinion if you don't like tough. i Dont need to show a graph or chart to support My opinion. & i don't have to prove a damn thing. But if i have to fly a crap plane i'll fly a 109G6 A/S. But most of the time i cant bring myself to fly in a nazi aircraft so i'll put on an air racing skin or something.

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 10:11 AM
My favorites are the P-47, P-51 and P-40, being American is the reason. I really enjoy almost all the a/c, bombers less.

When I played CFS2 for about 18 months I also flew American and aftermarket British a/c, almost exclusively. Actually, if the sim came with no Japanese missions it would have made no difference.

With FB the majority of stock missions I've flown so far are VVS. 'Some day' I plan on doing German. In my immersion I can't help to slightly fantasize, not only with the a/c but the cause, of WWII .

In QMB it's a different story and anything goes, the jets are a blast.

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 10:54 AM
I made it a point to fly pretty much every plane in the game, at least once. I feel your just cheating yourself of a great experience if you don't. And every one of them has a least a small niche were they can dominate. There "might" be an odd MiG, IL2 or Yak version (the long range one with reduced guns, I think) that I haven't flown. Maybe one each of the 109 and 190 series.

My preferance right now?

The P47D-22.

It can carry extra ammo (~ 60 secs) for A2A engagements, or a hefty bombload, rockets, and 30 seconds of ammo. It can take a beating, and give one too.

As far as nationalities go, I usually fly VVS or US, but taking up a 109F4-G2 , Dora or Anton is good for a refresher. Flying only one nationality is silly to me. I'm USAF, and it dosen't bother me to fly the ocasional, heartpounding, torpedo dropping mission in a He-111, or mix it up with a Yak in a 109. A good honing of my skills (limited though they are) and good fun.

Simultanious campaigns with 109F2, La series, and P-47D-22. Slightly different periods and places, lest I encounter myself and shoot me down. Try claiming *that* in your reports! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Good hunting,
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Tully__
12-15-2003, 11:27 AM
I fly allied because I'm from a country that was a member of the allies. I occasionally foray on the other side but being more familiar with the allied aircraft find that I perform better in them.

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 11:35 AM
Copperhead310th wrote:
- Check the sig.
-
- i fly the US planes 90% of the time cause i'm from
- the US. Am i nationalistic? Hell yea! Do i care if
- you don't like it. Hell NO!


What is it about yanks that makes them hella nationalistic?

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(not wanting to start a flame war, just wondering)

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 11:54 AM
w.m.nz wrote:
-
- Copperhead310th wrote:
-- Check the sig.
--
-- i fly the US planes 90% of the time cause i'm from
-- the US. Am i nationalistic? Hell yea! Do i care if
-- you don't like it. Hell NO!
-
-
- What is it about yanks that makes them hella
- nationalistic?
-
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
-
- (not wanting to start a flame war, just wondering)
-
-

Look, stay on topic, dude. What was your fav a/c? Is that so hard? And I resent the term 'Yank' for Americans, I'm from Louisiana. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Good hunting,
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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 12:10 PM
You're right. At the moment..I'm trying out the 109s', for a little B&Z action (I'm usually a turnfighter)

Russians: the LaGG-3 beleive it or not!. I just love the way it handles in a T&B fight.

Had to try out the P-51D...just because it's beautiful, and ideal for zooming low over those french towns, saving private ryan style.


Looking forward to the spitfire! Tally ho!

(Where does 'Yank' originate? I was under the impression it was no more offensive than calling me a kiwi..or the brits 'limeys')

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 12:19 PM
It depends on how you use the term m8. Happy flying

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 12:23 PM
Is it a civil war thing referring to the north?

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 12:47 PM
Cajun76 wrote:
- I made it a point to fly pretty much every plane in
- the game, at least once. I feel your just cheating
- yourself of a great experience if you don't.

I agree with this totally.

Favorites:

Mig3UD - not the U version, the 'improved' version over the original Mig3. It's excellent for teaching you how not to get in front of an enemys gunsights at all, ever. At the moment I'm in love with doing rocket/gunpod intercepts of B-17s in the other Mig3 models though. If you don't learn how to avoid the robogunners doing that matchup, you never will :>

Yak-9T - what can you say? By far the most amusing aircraft to fly. If the FB NS-37 is on par with the real one then this plane had easily the best armament of any plane in WW2. It takes a little time to learn where to set convergence [no more than 200m] and how much lead to pull on a target, but once you get it down right, you'll be doing 10+ kill missions in no time. Don't take it too high though, performance tends to drop off quickly. By far the best Yak in game, the armament pushes it far beyond the Yak9U and Yak3 IMHO.

P-39N1 - similar to the Yak-9T with its nose cannon. The 4x.30cal machine guns really tear the hell out of the less well armored targets in the game and are great fun.

Hurricane Mk1 - low powered but 'shotgun' patterned firepower, negative G engine cutout, crap top speed .. a real challenge to do well in against late war aircraft. The VVS continued using these [or at least, the field mod] well into the war, I can't imagine that was much fun for the pilots.

FW-190D9 - just brutal at high alt. Though some people don't seem happy with its durability, the lack of a complex DM does help it in some ways in regards to engine and control damage. Still great fun to fly. The '45 mod is now quite insanely fast at altitude, and some very nice 'you vs the world' matchups of Mig3s and these can be made. Carries enough ammo to toast the hell out of hoardes of Migs, really fun.

BF109G2 - I don't know if it's overmodelled or not, but this plane really does own the 1942 set. I like the MG17s much more than the seeming slower firing MG151 G6. I think most people just don't aim for important parts when they shoot with the 17s .. they're about as good as 2x 303s or 2x30's which is about all you should reasonably expect. In 1.21 the 20mm is a real weapon to be reckoned with.

I-16 Typ 18 - least annoying of the very early war set in my opinion. I hate the P-11 and I-153 so this is about it. Love the flash gordon lines and open cockpit.

Personally I can't wait to get the IAR80/81 and A6M2 as flyables, so looking forward to them.


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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 12:53 PM
LW because they have the FWs, y the FW because they look so good, especially the D9 and A5.

Tho the Las are pretty nice lookers.

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 01:23 PM
LW planes, cuz Bulgarian pilots fought in them. I fly both FW and Me109, having a real good time and much more challenging. Also I dont like the look of the P-47(you are too big to be my type, sorry)

Also, waiting for the Ta152, not that it will be a uberturner, but you could have another option than just standard LW escape maneuvers

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 01:49 PM
Mostly VVS, and YAK3, not only because I'm a NOOB, but also because of the way she handles. She is also fast without having an uberpowerful engine, and the armament adequate.

If I fly LW I normally go for a Bf.109 because I find the Fw.190 a bit too "snappy" in the handling.

But my favourites would be early WW2 biplanes like the I-153, and I really hope to have a flyable Cr.42 in the add-on: since I am Italian I really miss not having Italian planes to fly (read Mc.202 and Mc.205)

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 01:55 PM
Sad old retro that I am - I still have more fun flying an IL2 Fieldmod online than any other plane.

It's the boom of the rockets and bombs, cannons that rip any plane apart ..... and the indignant squeals from the fighter chaps when you catch them on the tarmac.

I keep promising to learn this fighter stuff, spending 10 minutes climbing up to altitude then either trolling around with no action or finding myself in the chute wondering waht hit me....Yawn



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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 01:59 PM
I really would like to fly the LW planes but you cannot SEE anything when playing cockpit only(more realistic simulation when in this mode). So I fly the Yak-3. you can SEE out the cockpit in this plane! It turns well, has speed, not a big punch and low ammo load. BUT seeing is surviving and that is why I like it!

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 02:36 PM
The squad I'm in is VVS based so that's generally what I'm flying online in the Virtual Online War. Lots of variety, and plenty of pigs with which to hone your skills, especially in the early years.

If I'm online on my own in a dogfight server or whatever, I'll fly Luftwaffe as I like flying as many planes as possible, and the 109s are a handful. A challenge is generally fun. Oh, and the Heinkel is just a beauty.

No nationalistic bias as such, although I like taking a Hurricane up every once in a while. When we get a Spitfire, however....

Cheers,

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 02:47 PM
w.m.nz wrote:
- Is it a civil war thing referring to the north?

Yes...........



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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 06:59 PM
I fly 109s mostly. My faves are from the Emils to the G6s. I fly the late war models if that's what's offered in a room or mission but I prefer the earlier models. Oddly I think I've had my best success with the G6 and G6 late. Even though those are supposted to be less favored by 109 drivers. I do like the occasional Stuka mission as well.

The reason I fly them is that they are more challenging than the VVS planes. I've flown those once a long time ago but I just don't get any sense of accomplishment shooting down planes in those. It's just too dang easy. Although I love flying Sturmovik missions. That's probably my fave VVS plane.

As far as the other Allied planes I guess I'd like to give the P-47 more of a try, but I never get the chance. It's my favorite fighter of the war but I haven't gotten much time in it in FB.

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 07:11 PM
Hi,

No bias towards VVS or LW here so the list is:

LW:
109E - those 20mm plus it looks mean!
109K4 - Don't really like it but the cannon cuts the mustard.
109G14 - Beginning to like this better than K4.
He111 - Just love landing this one, completely shot up, after sinking a ship.

Why? Sexy a/c that are also a challenge. 109s are also fragile.

VVS:
Yak 1B
Yak 3
Why? Nice flight characteristics, and can hardly be classified as uber with that poor ammo load - encourages discretion and discipline with that trigger finger.

Cheers,
Norris

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 07:17 PM
Oh, and OT about "Yank". It comes from old Dutch slang- "Yankee Doodle" which roughly translates as "Johnny Fool". It was the derisive nickname the Dutch settlers gave the British settlers (they were in competition for a lot of the same realestate). When the Revolution started up, it was then adopted by the British as a nickname for the the rebellious colonists and they worked it into a taunting song. But after the colonists began to win some of the battles they adopted the name and the song. Basically as a worse taunt to the British. As in: "Yeah, we're a bunch of 'Johnny Fools' and we just whipped your asses."

Later in the Civil War the Northern states were referred to as the Yankees by the Southern states. Now the term is used by ppl around the world for Americans in general. But some Southerners chaif at being called that (why, I don't know, since the War ended almost 140 years ago). So to a Southerner anybody from the North is a Yankee. But ask somebody from the Middle-Atlantic states (like me) who Yankees are and we'll tell you that ppl from New England are true Yankees. Strange that New York City (in a mid-Atlantic state) would have the name "Yankees" for their baseball team when their hated rivals, the Boston Redsocks (from a New England state) would more appropriately be named Yankees.

I as an American and as a Northerner have no problem being called a Yank.

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 08:03 PM
I'm from New England, I'm now on the west coast. I knew about half of your post LilHorse. Thanks for the history. I agree, it means diddly. Sometimes coming from non-Americans it's intended to scratch. Still, it's better than limey. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 08:16 PM
US 90% of the time... fav's are P40, P47, P51 for BnZ (love it) ... If I fly WS, I like the MIG3U and most all of the Yaks... and will fly the IL2 every chance I get...

In a DF server, I will fly either side that keeps the balance... if I fly blue and the server requires specific AC/Markings (Blue=Axis, Red=Allies) then I will fly the 109G2 as I simply like the way it handles (even if I suck in it)...



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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 09:16 PM
Hurrah for our colonial cousins!

Cheers,
Norris

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 09:49 PM
I fly the FW's because they are the only aircraft I have experience of, and I dont want to spoil the purity by flying something else.
I have seen all the other planes and even tried a couple for a flight or 2, but I dont want to spoil the romance I have for the FW's, they are enough for me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

V_Flatspin
12-18-2003, 11:43 AM
I fly for VVS mostly because I'd flown German planes before in other sims but always wanted to fly Russian. In the beginning, I flew all VVS fighters but I've settled on the IL2 for the past 18 months because blowing stuff up on the ground is just so stinkin' fun! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif My favs are: IL2 2M (first) IL2 type 3 (not 3M - too much yaw when firing cannons) and the IL2 T.
I really enjoy getting an occasional fighter kill with my cannons and savoring the irritation of the fighter-jock who got nailed by a bomber! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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F19_Ob
12-18-2003, 02:12 PM
Im in totally for the sport. and mostly fly the 109....hardest of all is to down yak3,yak9,La7
since they are infact better in all respects and has clear field of view....so 95% of the fights the 109 has a single headon pass and then he is on the defensive wich mostly ends with the 109 dying.sometimes if the allied makes a major misstake its possible to get enough distance to get another head on pass but thats rare on GreaterGreen anyway.

So the only reason the axis team infact do get kills is the furballs where up to five 109's can trail after a yak3 or La7 spraying bullets and eventualy someone zooms in to get him, but many times ive seen a single yak beat 3 axis fightershttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif wich never really can happen on the opposit side. anyway the sport is to fly a bad plane against the best plane and sometimes win.
doing the impossible....if it was easy I wouldnt do it anymore.

StG77_Kondor
12-18-2003, 02:25 PM
Usually German aircraft. Most of the time in a Stuka/He111 or Fw190 with bombs.

But I do like that Me109G6 early, getting kills with it on uber VVS planes is very satisfying http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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BpGemini
12-18-2003, 02:39 PM
Allied - U.S. P-39

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Zayets
12-18-2003, 02:44 PM
IL2-USSR
P47-Romanian skin
soon IAR 81C - all way Romania

Zayets out

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gates123
12-18-2003, 02:56 PM
Well lately I've been all about the p-40. It has good bnz qualities, long lasting armament, can turn with most 109's and its best feature by far is its willingness to continue to dogfight with 20mm holes in its wing. Got 4 kills in one sortie last night on a scripted server (Greatergreen.com) and this plane is my new lover.

KarayaEine
12-18-2003, 04:07 PM
90% of the time I fly Axis aircraft (usually 109's and 190's). I just like the German stuff better. There's something captivating about the 109. it's hard to describe unless you experience it for yourself. It takes you over......

Occasionally I'll fly some US planes just to see how they do. The VVS planes really don't do anything for me but I'll fly the Il-2 or Mig-3 once in a great while when I feel the need for a change of pace.

Johann

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dragonhart38
12-18-2003, 07:57 PM
I like the BF109 and P51

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CARBONFREEZE
12-19-2003, 01:46 AM
The Focke-Wulf 190. Best challenge after discovering in IL2 that the Yak was a complete n00b plane. Looks cool as well

Russian aircraft require skill to fly.
German aircraft require ten times that skill, and one hundred times the patience!

Hristo_
12-19-2003, 01:50 AM
Luftwaffe all the way. Just like to shoot down those pesky Allied dweebs.

Fehler
12-19-2003, 04:41 AM
I fly German. We all know who won the war, so to me flying for the winning side is a bit redundant.

I also think the German planes are far more sexier looking than the Allied planes.

I guess that is why I never understood the affection people have for the Spitfire. I looks like a strange racing plane to me.

The 190 just looks like somethink you would want to go to war with. Bar, paper wings, simple DM; it's still my favorite plane in the game.

Oh, I am an American, but I have to say that the only U.S, planes that I really ever liked were radials. Even though the P51 was an outstanding aircraft, it had to be one of the most butt-ugly planes of the war, IMHO.

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Sagittario
12-19-2003, 05:36 AM
I usually fly Me109, because it's more challenging than other a/c, I think it gives some advantage if you learn well to fly it, but it can be a disaster if you think to fly simply jumping on it and putting throttle @ 110%.

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F19_Olli72
12-19-2003, 05:59 AM
Axis mostly.
I like the 109, but having flown it a lot i have a new favorite ride after the latest patch; the Brewster. I just like it overall; agile, good visibility and adequate armament. And it looks good too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

karhucxxx
12-19-2003, 09:09 AM
With an attitude like that, A**hat squadron would seem more accurate, Lolz
Anewaz, I fly Axis AC exclusively, why? Because my country fought on the axis side, and i strive for historical accuracy above all else.

"Malum quidem nullum esse sine aliquo bono."

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FireBird77:
Me109, because I hate to wait to get altitude only for ripping my wing later on! And besides teh Me109 is mainstay for Axis for all long war, so you have to manage only one AC, it's all you need from 1941-45. Also Me109, if flown right can cope with anything, maybe except of P51s (especially well flonw ones)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

MosDef_99th
12-19-2003, 09:35 AM
mainly 109 g14,g10 and K4 with 108 gunpads. I consider BF's true pilot's planes, my main problems flyin deal with aiming, so blowing big holes with mk108's compensate somewhat. with 109's u have to fly smarter than La's and yaks.

But i'll fly pretty much anything if i feel adventurous; P40's, Mig3U's, P39's,Il2's, 190's,P51's and Zero's and La's if I feel despearate. I can always go back to the La if i have to.

269GA-Pag
12-19-2003, 11:44 AM
I usually fly Bf-109 (most F-4, or G-2/6), because it's my favourite plane of all times...besides I'm Italian, and I like flying planes that fought in Regia Aeronautica or ANR (I'm waiting for C.202/205....).
I like the new P-51 too, and Hayate.
hi all

Pag

nicolas10
12-19-2003, 12:19 PM
Blue because I fly the Fw190D9 as much as possible.

Nic

The first official D12 whiner!

christopher65
12-19-2003, 02:46 PM
Mostly 109s cos their quite forgiving in combat and lethal when used well.Its also a great looking aircraft as is the 190 but am hopeless with that!
When flying for the russians i like the mig3s and early yaks.The new japanese planes are great to fly as well.the choice is endless.there all great aircraft.

Sturmtrooper
12-19-2003, 02:54 PM
I really prefer to fly Luftwaffe . I like the look of WW2-era German aircraft , kinda Star Wars/Empire look . http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Also I like the cockpits of the German planes as well .
I am of German heritage , maybe thats why .
Or maybe it's because my great uncle was a German paratrooper in WW2 .
Nah , I just like the look and feel of the Luftwaffe planes .
My fav is the Dora at the moment . A great boom n' zoomer !!

US380thBG-Tug-
12-19-2003, 03:28 PM
B-17. Nothing like climbing 20 mins to altitude, flying another 15 min to get 1 KM from target, and then getting shredded in 1 pass by a gunpod totin' K4 or 190. It builds character. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Griffon_25th
12-19-2003, 06:10 PM
I fly ALL the planes because im not some narrow minded batard...jk..but I do try to fly all the planes, perhaps not everysingle verison. But it is interesting to see how every plane responds etc...

And i love shooting down B-17s in my il2 vers 1 with 16 rockets!!! ;P

Aardvark892
12-19-2003, 06:16 PM
I wish and wish I could say the 109's are what I fly exclusively, but it's gotta be the MiG-3U. I love the 109 the most, but in FB, if anyone so much as looks at you funny the engine splatters oil on the windscreen and dies. Why do those things have glass jaws? And before you go there, I'm not a luftwhiner... I fly the MiG. Unless I'm in my favorite old beat up He111 trying desperately (and unsuccessfully) to drop bombs on target! C'mon Oleg, give me a separate bombardier! Please?!

Ketalar
12-19-2003, 06:42 PM
I always fly the P-40 if it's available (model doesn't matter).

So naturally I usually fly as Red, unless it makes the teams uneven that is. The only downside is when I have to go Blue and the plane sets are historical... I feel like a clay pidgeon in a German plane (it's not the plane, it's the pilot...).

FW190fan
12-20-2003, 01:19 AM
Luftwaffe because they have the coolest fighters, as well as the most interesting history.


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DION5
12-21-2003, 08:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fehler:
I fly German. We all know who won the war, so to me flying for the winning side is a bit redundant.

I also think the German planes are far more sexier looking than the Allied planes.

I guess that is why I never understood the affection people have for the Spitfire. I looks like a strange racing plane to me.

The 190 just looks like somethink you would want to go to war with. Bar, paper wings, simple DM; it's still my favorite plane in the game.

Oh, I am an American, but I have to say that the only U.S, planes that I really ever liked were radials. Even though the P51 was an outstanding aircraft, it had to be one of the most butt-ugly planes of the war, IMHO.

http://webpages.charter.net/cuda70/Fehlersig.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/cuda70/9JG54.html<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DION5
12-21-2003, 08:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fehler:
I fly German. We all know who won the war, so to me flying for the winning side is a bit redundant.

I also think the German planes are far more sexier looking than the Allied planes.

I guess that is why I never understood the affection people have for the Spitfire. I looks like a strange racing plane to me.

The 190 just looks like somethink you would want to go to war with. Bar, paper wings, simple DM; it's still my favorite plane in the game.

Oh, I am an American, but I have to say that the only U.S, planes that I really ever liked were radials. Even though the P51 was an outstanding aircraft, it had to be one of the most butt-ugly planes of the war, IMHO.

http://webpages.charter.net/cuda70/Fehlersig.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/cuda70/9JG54.html<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You have to be kidding. The P51 Mustang is just about the most beautifull machines man has ever created. IMHO.

Vladimir_No2
12-21-2003, 08:44 PM
I-16,I-153,P.11c hoping to add the gladiator to this list soon

Raider_356th
12-21-2003, 09:04 PM
Time for my 2 cents i suppose..

Im an american, like most, fly US birds..The Difference between Our planes and most others, our planes were made to go in, get the job done, and come back alive..But unlike the Japs..Their planes hardly had armor, and were killed easily, they designed their planes to go in, get the job done, but not to come back alive..But it all comes down to bein a diehard american http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Cajun76
12-22-2003, 04:58 AM
Not arguing your planeset choice, heck, I fly the Jug mostly. But that's a bit simplistic of the Japanese. The idea was be as maneuverable as possible to avoid being hit. Had the tactics not changed it would have, (and was, early) been devastating to enemy formations. I don't want to hijack this thread, or send it way off topic with debates over tactics/philosophy/zen, but not all the Japanese pilots were suicidal maniacs with no thought in their mind than to immolate themselves on the enemy.

Good hunting,
Cajun76

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-Aristotle


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vulcan500
12-22-2003, 05:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JV44Rall:
LW and FW's.

Why? When you hit something with a FW, it stays hit. &lt;img src="/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" width=16 height=16 border=0&gt;

And when a FW gets it, you still have a good chance of getting home.

My impressions of the last two months revolve around dawns. Pink dawns, grey dawns, misty, rainy and windy dawns, but always dawns; first light. Shadowy Spitfires and quietness . . . . Geoffrey Wellum, First Light.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>IVE GOT THE BOOK TOO M8,GOOD INNIT!

Bremspropeller
12-22-2003, 05:11 AM
Fw190 of LW.
Most satisfiing plane in game.

Like sb. already said "you against the world" on some DF servers. Stay high and visit the DF 2km below at will http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



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nutt3r
12-22-2003, 05:20 AM
i like to fly for the luftwaffe in my 109 cause they look so beutiful http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Demolisher_
12-22-2003, 08:37 AM
Luftwaffe or the Finns.

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Tailspin2
12-22-2003, 10:15 AM
I normally fly for the LW because it has the FW-190. I prefer for fly energy fightersvs turn fighters so I fly aircraft like the 190, P-47, Corsair, etc.

I pick the LW side as I what the challenge of just trying to survive on the losing side of the war. It's a lot easier to get kills when you are flying with some many aircraft against the underdog. The kills mean more to me as the underdog and generally every online server I go on, the LW is the underdog. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Themotorhead
12-22-2003, 04:40 PM
I fly US or Russian.

I like the Russian style.

-GOZR

jensenpark
12-22-2003, 05:17 PM
109 and pretty much nothing else.
(In a scripted battle with ground targets I'll take the Stuka for fun)
A beautiful, classic fighter, with such great history, and it seems to be the underdog alot. Much more fun that playing along with 15 others flying LA-7's...

Of course when the Spit comes along...but then everyone will be flying it and who wants to be one of such a huge crowd?

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JG77Hawk_9
12-23-2003, 02:46 PM
So hard. I usually fly 109's and my fav 109 is the G6AS, a nice blend of B n Z or turn n burn if you know how to fly it right (-:

BUT

I also like the 190's all models although the earlier ones are great dog fighters. Stuka's if I'm feeling suicidal (nice to see the bombs going dead on target), Yak 3's, Lagg 3's, La's, Il2's, Buffalo's, but I haven't taken time out to learn the P47's and P51's. Basically I will fly mainly the 109 G6AS but pending on balance of sides and what job I want to do I will not limit myself to any plane in particular I just know the 109 the best.

I was flying VVS against some Germans in 109K's and after trying a P40 bomb run I jumped into a Yak 3 then a La7. They got pissed cause of my plane choice but I though, well if you fly the latest and greatest of LW then I'll do the same for the VVS. Me on a few of them proved to be a stale mate most of the time as they would just B n Z and I would keep the planes turning (-:

If I caught one of them low and solo then I knew they were toast.

I can't wait for the Italian planes and the Tempest and Spitfire's. Also looking forward to some decent bombers as flyables like the B24, the Lanc, J88, and the like. Will make FB very interesting and really add to changing the nature of online fights as the P51 did.

Bogun
12-23-2003, 03:02 PM
I prefer any Russian or Allie plane, of course‚...
Love knocking down those Experten wannabes in their uber crates‚...
But I do respect very much Blue side pilots flying Ju-87 or He-111 on scripted servers.

Regards,

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