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Call_me_Kanno
04-04-2006, 05:35 PM
Just wondering if this engine is modeled in our sim for the Corsair.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/Kanno/DSC00609.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/Kanno/DSC00610.jpg

Treetop64
04-04-2006, 05:52 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

It indeed looks impressive!

4300 HP! 28 Cylinders! Would love to see this beast used in the American planes in IL-2, be sure!

R_Target
04-04-2006, 05:57 PM
They were in the F2G "Super Corsair".

http://image58.webshots.com/158/6/22/21/411662221nUbmor_ph.jpg

LStarosta
04-04-2006, 06:05 PM
We can't have this in Il-2

It would pwn too much.

Snow_Wolf_
04-04-2006, 06:07 PM
lol yea would be nice to have one but then again just starting that thing would cost an arm and a leg with today's fuel prices

Treetop64
04-04-2006, 06:13 PM
I'd almost pay an arm and a leg just to hear that thing start up and run... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

Messaschnitzel
04-04-2006, 06:22 PM
Imagine having to maintain a piece of equipment like that. I can only imagine what the dialogue was like when the crews were on the loose with these things:

"HEY, TOP! I gotta few extra pieces left over sittin' on the tarp over there. What do you want me to do with 'em?"

"Ahhh, just throw 'em in with the rest of the extra parts in the bin over there. Don't worry about it. This engine'll still work fine cuz it still has 24 cylinders for the prop to spin on!"

Snow_Wolf_
04-04-2006, 06:26 PM
no i can imagine the maintenance guys doing the valve siting and rocker arm clearance on that engine ..... lol 28 cylinders and you do it in the correct firing order lol must been hell

R_Target
04-04-2006, 06:41 PM
Initial climb rate, according to Barret Tillman: 4400 ft./minute. Whoa.

-HH-Dubbo
04-04-2006, 08:05 PM
I see from the placard that this was also the engine the the HFB-1 or Spruce Goose. She had 8 of 'em. Now imagine being the bloke doing what Snow Wolf suggested.................

BfHeFwMe
04-04-2006, 08:39 PM
http://www.fargoairmuseum.org/images/Super_Corsair_1.jpg

Heard it,

Seen it fly,

Touched it,

Buhwaaaaaaa http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Call_me_Kanno
04-06-2006, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by R_Target:
They were in the F2G "Super Corsair".

http://image58.webshots.com/158/6/22/21/411662221nUbmor_ph.jpg

So it was in the super corsair and not the F4U-1 corsair like the placard reads. Makes sense I guess since the that plane was designed to be a kamakzie interceptor.

ATLAS_DEATH
04-06-2006, 06:15 PM
May be able to use a FS9 editor to recreate it.

Badsight.
04-07-2006, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by R_Target:
Initial climb rate, according to Barret Tillman: 4400 ft./minute. Whoa. not that great considering the power

the R-4360 in the FG2 had a single stage supercharger - was good for lower alt flying - would have lost mass HP if you took it high

that motor weighed a ton (nearly) & HAD to have a neg effect on the handeling . too big really for fighter's . . . . imo , like the BWM-803

Kocur_
04-07-2006, 09:45 AM
that motor weighed a ton (nearly) & HAD to have a neg effect on the handeling . too big really for fighter's . . . . imo , like the BWM-803

It surely weighted more than nearly a tonne, since ordinary BMW-801 or R-2800 weighted slightly above 1.000kg http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif R-4360 dry weight was 1.755kg.

Chuck_Older
04-07-2006, 09:59 AM
Wasp Major?

R_Target
04-07-2006, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Badsight.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by R_Target:
Initial climb rate, according to Barret Tillman: 4400 ft./minute. Whoa. not that great considering the power

the R-4360 in the FG2 had a single stage supercharger - was good for lower alt flying - would have lost mass HP if you took it high

that motor weighed a ton (nearly) & HAD to have a neg effect on the handeling . too big really for fighter's . . . . imo , like the BWM-803 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good points indeed. The engine weighed around 1300 lbs more than the R2800, so about 3500+ lbs for the Wasp Major. It seems that climbing is about all it did better than earlier Corsairs. Here's a quote from Tillman: "In short, for a substantial increase in climb rate, the F2G offered no [real] increase in top speed, no useful increases in payload, and only a small improvement in range."

3.JG51_BigBear
04-07-2006, 11:03 AM
That engine would have probably been a pain for carier ops. Takeoff probably wouldn't have been that bad but landing a heavier version of the Corsair would have been a real mess.

Corsair_Fanatic
04-07-2006, 11:23 AM
I think I'd rather have the F2G's airframe hitched up to the F4U-4's engine. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Boyington6
04-07-2006, 12:51 PM
Imagine having to maintain a piece of equipment like that.

Yeah. How long does it take to pull out 56 spark plugs, then buzz all the lead deposits off, bead blast them, anneal the copper gaskets, put anti-seize on the threads, and then put them back in?
Hell, I'm just dizzy trying to imagine setting up a magneto for a 28 cylinder engine. And then the other onehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Oh sure, in yer fancy hangars stateside, you just pull a bad unit and put in a factory fresh one. But I wonder how it was obtaining spares with the streched supply lines in the various theatres this engine served in.

I bet in many cases you would be scraping and scrambling to get enough kit together to make all your crates functional, and what you had might not be in top condition.

I wonder if anyone has ever written a book on WWII aircraft maintenance - as in, what it was like for ground crews? Squadron Airborne by Elleston Trevor had interesting detail thrown in, but it was too brief http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Pappy