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Eaglez47
08-22-2005, 02:45 PM
I have just ordered the game and am wondering how the controls work...do any of you guys fly without a mouse?? or will i need a joystick to fly? sorry if this is a stupid question but i need to know..

Kuna15
08-22-2005, 02:52 PM
You must get yourself joystick in order to play with full immersion. You may play with keyboard + mouse combination but you will get frustrated... and you will perform badly.

Don't be afraid to ask. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

FoolTrottel
08-22-2005, 03:08 PM
Like Kuna said: go get a joystick!

You can "control" the planes with the keyboard, but not with the mouse.
The mouse is used for viewing.

A simple cheap joystick will do for now, but once you do like PF (even like it just a bit) go get a good one, as the control of the aircraft you are flying is very important!

As for contolling aircraft, this thing is more like a sim than like a game!

Have Fun!

Eaglez47
08-22-2005, 03:12 PM
so can someone show me a link for a joystick that is cheap and will work...i cant afford much

Kuna15
08-22-2005, 03:16 PM
http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/cyborg_evo.htm

that is what I am currently using. There are other good joysticks (with reasonable prices) on the market too.

I am sure that other people here will give you more reccomendations.

Xiolablu3
08-22-2005, 03:37 PM
I have been flying with keyboard for about a month now and have some success.

You can still have pleasant flights using hte keyboard and mouse, just make sure you dont hold the direction keys down or else you will over turn instantly and stall, you must keep tapping them to get a turn. The faster you tap, the tighter you turn.

I have a K/D of 2:1 using keyboard on 334th, it was 2.5 but gone down now. So it is possible.

I do keep meaning to get a joystick but never seem to get round to it, flying with keyboard is better than no flying at all.

LeadSpitter_
08-22-2005, 03:44 PM
You definatly need a joystick,

If you dont have much money I would recommend one of the following 30-50 dollar range.

You can even get a cheap axis gamepad similiar to a playstation controller with 2 axis's which can produce incrediably good results in this game.

Saitek X45 Hotas*
Saitek Cyborg Evo
Logitech Extreme 3d Pro

If you have the money go and get a

Saitek X52 & CH rudder pedals
CH Trottle, CH stick, CH rudder pedals.

also look into getting a TrackIR3 which helps many out. Also its imporant to get a HOTAS seperate throttle with rotary knobs for using elevator trim.

Eaglez47
08-22-2005, 03:46 PM
is it possible to fly with just a joystick ??? or do i need peddels and other stuff like that?

Kuna15
08-22-2005, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Eaglez47:
is it possible to fly with just a joystick ??? or do i need peddels and other stuff like that?

Pedals are used to control aircraft rudder. Since you have that control on joystick (make sure that you check that joystick has it) you don't need pedals. You need only joystick, and I will infact reccomend only joystick in the beggining.

After some time if you see that you like the game, switch to HOTAS+Pedals, or some more expensive stuff than twisty joystick...
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He he Leadspitter I see you have again changed sides... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Taylortony
08-22-2005, 03:59 PM
yes go for a cheap and cheerful stick only, as you are on a budget, see if you can pick one up with a throttle lever or wheel on it and possibly at least one top hat.... what country are you in? i have seen saitek ones that would do for about 10 to 20 range.... Alternate see if you can get a cheap second hand one.... Keep an eye out for bargains, Saitek did a superb X45 stick which was 2 seperate ones, one being a throttle and one a joystick, this was about 80+ when it was discontinued, PC world in the UK sold them off at 9 and i missed them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Eaglez47
08-22-2005, 03:59 PM
WOULD this one work without anything else?

Taylortony
08-22-2005, 04:01 PM
yes
now take the link down before anyone else bids on it
and its forcefeedback http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif click on the edit icon with the pencil eraser on and remove the address
oh the twist is the rudder btw http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kuna15
08-22-2005, 04:05 PM
http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/22056131/Images/963223-0403__1.jpg
Logitech Wingman Force Feedback USB Joystick

I say yes, but I bet someone here have that joystick so can give you more info about it.

Taylortony
08-22-2005, 04:06 PM
this is the one several people mentioned i have it too but they are expensive

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Saitek-X45-Joystick-Throt...QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem] (http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Saitek-X45-Joystick-Throttle_W0QQitemZ5800948634QQcategoryZ3677QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem])


get that one you posted

Bearcat99
08-22-2005, 04:25 PM
If you ae in the US try here (http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html).

neural_dream
08-22-2005, 04:42 PM
Bearcat's suggestion is the best one. I mean that reconditioned Evo. How can you recommend a Logitech Joystick guys?

Eaglez47
08-22-2005, 04:48 PM
neural dream.....read all of the posts before talking about them...im on a budget i cant afford a 50 $ joystick hunting season is closing in on us

neural_dream
08-22-2005, 07:47 PM
What 50? it costs $14.95 mate. I guess you didn't hit Bearcat's link http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.

Bearcat99
08-22-2005, 09:57 PM
H@ll the X-45 is only $39 bucks reconditioned.... one of my squadmates has been using one for over a year now with no problems....

han freak solo
08-22-2005, 10:36 PM
I'm about to order from that site Bearcat. My MS Sidewinder Precision 2 is finally going wacky after 4 years.

Last week it wouldn't recalibrate to compensate for lack of upward elevator response. Restarting the PC made it work again. Tonight, it won't recalibrate to compensate for lack of right roll response.

Maybe it will work again tomorrow? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Eaglez47
08-23-2005, 07:32 AM
thanks to all of you guys for telling me about the sticks...i ordered the reconditioned evo for various reasons and i thank bearcat for giving me the link http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif i look forward to playing ILFB and will see you guys in the forums! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif