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HotelBushranger
04-12-2006, 11:58 PM
Nowadays aircraft cost in the hundreds of millions. They consume a lot of materials, which are in finite supply. Do you think that eventually, there will be a time in which these aircraft will have to go, so the materials can be recycled, and aircraft will take a backwards step in technology? I hoping it will, gives me a chance to fly a Mustang http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Thoughts?

DeputyNelson
04-13-2006, 12:04 AM
Doubtful. The way America seems to work anymore is to make stuff bigger and more efficient.

WTE_Galway
04-13-2006, 12:17 AM
you could take up crop dusting

some of those ag planes approach WWII fighters in performance and the occupation is almost as dangerous to boot

DeputyNelson
04-13-2006, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
you could take up crop dusting

some of those ag planes approach WWII fighters in performance and the occupation is almost as dangerous to boot

You wouldn't get the cool guns on it though! Although, now that I said that it would be kind of funny. Reminds me of the "Vault" energy drink commercial where the farmer makes his scarecrow into a killing machine. Fly a cropduster with guns would be a effecient and fun way to take care of those pesty criters that haunt your field!

danjama
04-13-2006, 05:32 AM
Me and airmail once had a interesting discussion on this and we never came to a conclusion, but agreed it would be friggin cool if prop fighters became commonplace in the military http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

F19_Orheim
04-13-2006, 05:43 AM
fewer airplanes, more effective... We didn't see that many multi purpose airplanes 50 years ago, now our airforces can have one type in different roles... like the JAS Gripen (JAS = Jakt Attack Spaning = Fighter Attack Recog)

Vuco1
04-13-2006, 05:54 AM
Hm... wooden wonder anyone?

http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/images/mosquito_full.jpg

Made almost completely from wood, one very ecological plane. I can already imagine Greenpeace activists attacking whalers whit these

Lodovik
04-13-2006, 05:56 AM
With high octane fuels unavailable in near future and military doctrines leaning more towards detection/control and pre-emptive crisis prevention, I'll lay my bet on remote drones to take the place of military combat AC.
For civilian and gargo transport, dirigibles seem like a viable alternative. Propeller AC might stay in use but in ultralight only, as they can run on alcohol fuels.

BrewsterPilot
04-13-2006, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by Vuco1:
Hm... wooden wonder anyone?

http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/images/mosquito_full.jpg

Made almost completely from wood, one very ecological plane. I can already imagine Greenpeace activists attacking whalers whit these

BUT, the engines must be changed to solar-driven ones! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

major_setback
04-13-2006, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
Nowadays aircraft cost in the hundreds of millions. They consume a lot of materials, which are in finite supply. Do you think that eventually, there will be a time in which these aircraft will have to go, so the materials can be recycled, and aircraft will take a backwards step in technology? I hoping it will, gives me a chance to fly a Mustang http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Thoughts?


There's still a good chance. There is an enormous volcano under on of the national parks in America. It's due to blow sometime in the next few centuries. It's covered by an area where the earths crust is very thick, and pressure builds up over a very long time. The last time it blew (thousands of years ago) I think it sent the world into an ice age/'atomic winter'.
If this happens most of the crops in the world will fail, billions will die, and those of us lucky enough to survive will live in a very primitive manner. There will be fighting over the limited resources available.
You might just be able to scrounge enough fuel for a go in an old mustang.

...If you're lucky that is. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BSS_Goat
04-13-2006, 06:48 AM
Yeah and then Mad Max will be prowling the roads and....

Breeze147
04-13-2006, 06:50 AM
Hey Brewster Pilot! How about taking that penguin out of your sig? It's insulting and an invasion of my privacy.

If there is a mod reading this, please have him remove that garbage. I don't like it.

HotelBushranger
04-13-2006, 06:54 AM
Che? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Whats wrong with a penguin?

BrewsterPilot
04-13-2006, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by Breeze147:
Hey Brewster Pilot! How about taking that penguin out of your sig? It's insulting and an invasion of my privacy.

If there is a mod reading this, please have him remove that garbage. I don't like it.

The penguin is out. The monster is in!

Breeze147
04-13-2006, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by BrewsterPilot:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Breeze147:
Hey Brewster Pilot! How about taking that penguin out of your sig? It's insulting and an invasion of my privacy.

If there is a mod reading this, please have him remove that garbage. I don't like it.

The penguin is out. The monster is in! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're an idiot.

BrewsterPilot
04-13-2006, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by Breeze147:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BrewsterPilot:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Breeze147:
Hey Brewster Pilot! How about taking that penguin out of your sig? It's insulting and an invasion of my privacy.

If there is a mod reading this, please have him remove that garbage. I don't like it.

The penguin is out. The monster is in! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're an idiot. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now THAT, is a personal insult. You only asked me to take the PENGUIN out of my sig. Never the whole sig. If you want it removed, ask for it!

Breeze147
04-13-2006, 07:12 AM
Please remove the sig.

Breeze147
04-13-2006, 07:15 AM
Also, PLEASE, remind to never communicate anything to an ignoramus like you again. THANK YOU.

BrewsterPilot
04-13-2006, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Breeze147:
Please remove the sig.

Done.

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-13-2006, 07:18 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

BrewsterPilot
04-13-2006, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Breeze147:
Also, PLEASE, remind to never communicate anything to an ignoramus like you again. THANK YOU.

You're an idiot! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BSS_Goat
04-13-2006, 07:24 AM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00003CXNY.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

danjama
04-13-2006, 07:33 AM
OMG this Breeze guy is an idiot, brewster is right. pathetic.

BrewsterPilot
04-13-2006, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
OMG this Breeze guy is an idiot, brewster is right. pathetic.

(Sends a 500 check to Danny-Boy for taking my side)

Thanks!

BrewsterPilot
04-13-2006, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by BSS_Goat:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00003CXNY.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

LOLOL

GreyBeast
04-13-2006, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by BrewsterPilot:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Breeze147:
Also, PLEASE, remind to never communicate anything to an ignoramus like you again. THANK YOU.

You're an idiot! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Breeze147
04-13-2006, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
OMG this Breeze guy is an idiot, brewster is right. pathetic.
Yeah, I'm an idiot because my ISP and OS is being displayed. You've been polluting this forum for years with your nonsense, but that's okay, because you are an established character around here. This Brewster Pilot came on here about a month ago and started posting a series of immature nonsense. I'm not going to stand for that penguin thing displaying my ISP and OS. That is pure nonsense and I don't care that I'm the only one that can see it, I DON'T LIKE IT!!

And don't start this "This Breeze guy is an idiot" on me. I've been on this Forum almost 2-1/2 years and there should be a little name recognition, just as I recognize your name immediately as an inner circle clown know-it-all.

BSS_Goat
04-13-2006, 08:56 AM
Fuzzy puppies anyone?

http://www.fidnet.com/~cpuetz/pictures/pugs/puetzpug.jpg

vocatx
04-13-2006, 08:59 AM
Man, Breeze, what crawled up your a$$? I found his sig quite amazing the first time I saw it. Made me think a little bit about what I "click" on when I see a link to something, instead of blindly following. It really grabbed my wife's attention when I showed it to her. The only person that could see your IP was you, anyway, so what's with all the hell raising? He didn't do anything to you personally. It's not like he singled you out, and you were the only person who could see it. And how was it offensive? I still don't get that...

BrewsterPilot
04-13-2006, 09:30 AM
Breeze, I've never heard your name before, and for me it's worth nothing.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif And trust me, I've been on these boards a helluva lot longer than you think.

BrewsterPilot
04-13-2006, 09:35 AM
I will take the sig in use again, and will remove it if a moderator will tell me to. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Megile_
04-13-2006, 09:50 AM
nice thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LilHorse
04-13-2006, 09:58 AM
Back on topic. It's possible that the military might entertain the use of turbo-prop fixed wing a/c in the c.a.s. role. Choppers dominate that now. But A-10s have been used more for it as well. The army floated the idea some years back. But it's likely that budgets will shrink and they'll make due with what they have. Besides it's really hard to beat an Apache or A-10 in that role.

HotelBushranger
04-13-2006, 11:10 AM
Yeah, thats the main boundary from prop to chopper/jet, the stark increase in technology and electronics planes these day possess. But then again, this is a hypothetical situation in which all electronics is needed elsewhere http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I'd say prop planes in the GA role would resort back to the A-1 Skyraider, that was the pinnacle of military propeller avation.

And Breeze, re 'name recongition'. Normally people get recognition for bein good blokes, but it looks like you're very quickly getting recognition for being a w@nker.

You're polluting my thread.

BrewsterPilot
04-13-2006, 11:49 AM
Sorry for hijacking this thread. Plese, do go on!

ploughman
04-13-2006, 11:51 AM
There was a war, Nigerian civil war I think in the '60s over breakaway province called Biafra in which a Swedish guy who was originally part of the aid effort to relieve sufferring became so pissed off at the agenda of the government troops he set up a rebel airforce using little prop planes; five MFI.9B Minicon small pison-engined aircraft, armed with rocket pods and machine guns. The Nigerian airforce operated Mig-17s and Mig-21s, and Il-28 bombers and the Biafrans were able to disrupt the Nigerians for a few months, destroying several Migs and 3 of the Il-28s.