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Waldo.Pepper
09-11-2007, 09:17 PM
The original audio is sadly long since gone. However, the replaced narration is that of Franz Steigler, who flew the plane, was shown the film during the war and has done his best to recreate the spirit/gist of the narration, which has then been superimposed in English.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8989132302692103060

Here are some details of Oberleutnant Steigler. The following is the most famous story told about Franz Steigler's wartime exploits.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=105373

and the same story from another site ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/35/a2674235.shtml

Interview with Franz Steigler here ... (seven pages worth.) Note what he says about auto-prop pitch in the Bf-109!

Click on Articles - Pilots - then select Franz Steigler.

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

Waldo.Pepper
09-11-2007, 09:17 PM
The original audio is sadly long since gone. However, the replaced narration is that of Franz Steigler, who flew the plane, was shown the film during the war and has done his best to recreate the spirit/gist of the narration, which has then been superimposed in English.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8989132302692103060

Here are some details of Oberleutnant Steigler. The following is the most famous story told about Franz Steigler's wartime exploits.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=105373

and the same story from another site ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/35/a2674235.shtml

Interview with Franz Steigler here ... (seven pages worth.) Note what he says about auto-prop pitch in the Bf-109!

Click on Articles - Pilots - then select Franz Steigler.

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

VonGrantoven
09-11-2007, 10:51 PM
Interesting stuff.
Another great post, Waldo!
~S~

VonG

MrMojok
09-11-2007, 11:54 PM
Some interesting stuff in here!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Franz Steigler Interview:
What plane of the American or British did you fear the most, or show the biggest challenge for you?

"...The P-51."

It was one of the fastest.

"Yeah... It was one of the fastest and most manoeuvrable." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Franz Steigler Interview:
"The first time my airplane was on fire...the motor, uh, flames were coming in, and had to get out fast. I still had my hands and my face burnt, you know...but uh...you get out fast." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like Oleg got the fire-damage model of the Bf109 right.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Franz Steigler Interview:
Did you as pilots always have regular training courses on escape and evasion, survival...

"Yeah, we had them, but no one gave a sh1t. You lost everyday you lost a few pilots...everyday...and so...we are sitting there every night writing to a wife or to parents, you know...you'd have half a bottle of cognac besides you...because that's the only way you could do it, you know. We'd have to write about what a "hero" he was, and so...late in the afternoon there'd be about 6...multiply by...by 2...but, uh...we were sitting out of the evening with all the other men, the liquor and the beer...and we were sitting in the office and writing...and we had to write it by hand...We couldn't get the...the Master Sergeant to write the letters, no...YOU had to write the letters."

With new pilots...obviously you have better experience with the aircraft like the F and the G...did the new pilots have problems?

"You'd put them in the middle...for the first few flights, you know...so they know what is going on. The...the new pilots they hardly could fly the 109...they had seventy or eighty hours of flying time. They had of heck of a time learning to fly the airplane...take off and land, you know. As I said, every pilot came with a plane. They came form the school and then they went to uh...to the manufacture, or someplace where they had the airplanes, and they would come with them...especially in Afrika." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Franz Steigler Interview:
Did you ever have to bail out of a 262?

"No...I flew home a few times with one engine, you know...but I never bailed out."

You flew home on one engine? That must have been very hard to control?

"No... you can change the rudder, uh...the rudder tilt, and the airplane flew still straight, you know...no it wasn't a problem."

Did you every use flaps only for take off and landing, or did you use them during combat as well for tighter turns?

"Not in combat, no...no, never...only for take-off and landing."

How about trim?

"Mmm...yeah, perhaps ...well...sometimes, yeah... The 262 there was pretty hard on...on pressures... on stick pressure. The control pressure was very high..." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>