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F19_Orheim
10-06-2006, 01:13 PM
so much for 2 weeks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://www.fz.se/artiklar/article.php?id=1458

ploughman
10-06-2006, 01:21 PM
"STURMOVIK‚ô: 1946 offers new campaigns, missions and aircraft as well as many exclusive features. Pilots can fly the skies and fight enemies over the Russian front, German occupied Europe, the Far East and the Pacific. STURMOVIK‚ô: 1946 also includes all of previous Il-2 series content, thus bringing the most respected anthology flight simulator to an astonishing 229 flyable aircraft and over 300 total aircraft."

Note***STURMOVIK‚ô: 1946 also includes all of previous Il-2 series content***

Might be more than a tenner then.

I guess it's the re-install DVD we've all been waiting for.

leitmotiv
10-06-2006, 01:22 PM
Ah, about time.

LEBillfish
10-06-2006, 01:23 PM
guess it's time to buy a DVD player http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

HuninMunin
10-06-2006, 01:26 PM
That's hell great news.
Exactly what I was hoping for

faustnik
10-06-2006, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
I guess it's the re-install DVD we've all been waiting for.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

waffen-79
10-06-2006, 01:28 PM
can someone explain this to me?

is it a neu CD? DVD? whole series up to 4.07?

would it be COMPATIBLE with my compilation:

IL2-FB+AEP+PF+PE2?????

is there an addon just for my compilation or do I need to get the new DVD?

Beaufort-RAF
10-06-2006, 01:28 PM
Common sense prevails (eventually). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

triad773
10-06-2006, 01:30 PM
For release in "Europe and Australia".

WIll our freinds at GoGamer acquire it for us in the States? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

That would help us in the States.

darkhorizon11
10-06-2006, 01:36 PM
450 pages of screenshoots and videos into the making of BoB, can't go wrong there...

I wonder how all this is all gonna work? DVD? download?

foxyboy1964
10-06-2006, 01:38 PM
YES!!! Can anyone in the know confirm that this disc will contain Pe-2 and all patches. That's what it sounds like but I dont want to build my hopes up just yet. Nice one Oleg.

HuninMunin
10-06-2006, 01:42 PM
Its the complete series up to 4.07 PLUS skins, a new plane guide, making ofs, BoB preview.
Its my wed dream come true http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

HuninMunin
10-06-2006, 01:43 PM
STURMOVIK‚"ěĘ: 1946 offers new campaigns, missions and aircraft as well as many exclusive features. Pilots can fly the skies and fight enemies over the Russian front, German occupied Europe, the Far East and the Pacific. STURMOVIK‚"ěĘ: 1946 <span class="ev_code_RED">also includes all of previous Il-2 series content</span> , thus bringing the most respected anthology flight simulator to an astonishing 229 flyable aircraft and over 300 total aircraft.

Viper2005_
10-06-2006, 01:46 PM
Very good news.

Now that they've told everybody else, perhaps they might condescend to tell us, the customers, officially, perhaps by updating the front page of the website?

major_setback
10-06-2006, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by triad773:
For release in "Europe and Australia".

WIll our freinds at GoGamer acquire it for us in the States? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

That would help us in the States.

The US is being punished for being so selfish with the Avenger! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Double_A2006
10-06-2006, 01:50 PM
For release in "Europe and Australia".

And again the North American market is left out. I wonder if there is a legal issue going on that will not permit the game to be sold here. Grummen???? I don't know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Willey
10-06-2006, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
guess it's time to buy a DVD player http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=dvd-rom

20-30 bucks... less than the addon I suppose.

foxyboy1964
10-06-2006, 01:51 PM
Its got to be on disc, right? Can anyone find any mention of it elsewhere? So far I cant see anything about it on the Ubi site. UbiRazz, come in please. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HuninMunin
10-06-2006, 01:53 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Wait till the "we dont want yer crappy fantasy planes" crowd shows up complaining that they cant get the addon. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

No seriously, I think thats the smartest move Ubi can make.
That way, we wont have the online download ****, and the package offers enough extra stuff for the ones not interested in 46 or Manchuria to buy it, resulting that the community wont be torn apart and the crowd that stopped at 4.04 will be with us again.
Oh happy day!

HuninMunin
10-06-2006, 01:55 PM
600 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Double_A2006
10-06-2006, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by HuninMunin:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Wait till the "we dont want yer crappy fantasy planes" crowd shows up complaining that they cant get the addon. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

No seriously, I think thats the smartest move Ubi can make.
That way, we wont have the online download ****, and the package offers enough extra stuff for the ones not interested in 46 or Manchuria to buy it, resulting that the community wont be torn apart and the crowd that stopped at 4.04 will be with us again.
Oh happy day!

Unless we cannot get it here in the states. Think about it.

Beuf_Ninja
10-06-2006, 01:57 PM
Groovy! I didn't buy the Pe2 upgrade after reading about the Boonty boob, I do feel though thats its a bit a kick in the teeth to those that did support Pe2 no matter how poor the release method was. I'll be looking forward to this release but I wonder what copy protection will be employed for this new opus magnum? I heard that ubi won't use Starforce anymore not that it bothers me, most of the titles I play use SF and my pc hasn't suffered to my knowledge. Anyone have a ballpark guess on the price?

berg417448
10-06-2006, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by major_setback:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by triad773:
For release in "Europe and Australia".

WIll our freinds at GoGamer acquire it for us in the States? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

That would help us in the States.

The US is being punished for being so selfish with the Avenger! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If that is true then why are they punishing the Canadians too?

F19_Orheim
10-06-2006, 01:58 PM
MUST be DVD mate.... as it is the complete collection of IL2. That is HUGE amount of datahttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

After all strange ways this series has taken, this is the natural and ONLY reasonable end. Wrap up everything in a final DVD version and a free patch with a flyable Fokker DxxI http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The past year has been a bit turublent. To release "the complete series" on DVD a few months before this Final Version is almost incompetent from PR point of view. Not to mention the Pe2 debacle. I don't think that the "marketing department" has the term "advance planning" in their dictionary. Maybe they kicked the last marketing responible. If so the new guys is a hit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Anyway.. with this release all is forgotten. This is as I said the best end a serie can get.

Good call UBI!

Double_A2006
10-06-2006, 02:00 PM
I think I am going to wait and see where they are going to offer it at. I hope North America will be able to get it.

HuninMunin
10-06-2006, 02:00 PM
@ Orheim
agreed 100%.
@ Double
There'll be ways to get it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

faustnik
10-06-2006, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Double_A2006:
For release in "Europe and Australia".

And again the North American market is left out. I wonder if there is a legal issue going on that will not permit the game to be sold here. Grummen???? I don't know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

I urdered a disk thingy frum sum UK place once, I think it's in Yurp. They shipped it on an areplane all the way cross da Adlantic Sea. Didn't even pay fur it in real money, jist sum silly L thingies. Got here no problem, easy as apple pie I tells ya! The wunders of modern tichnology. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Rjel
10-06-2006, 02:02 PM
If they do release another complete DVD edition, I guess those of us who bought the last complete DVD edition, have been taken advantage of. I'm all for supporting Oleg's work, but how many times do I need to buy this sim to keep it up to date?

Da_Godfatha
10-06-2006, 02:03 PM
Well now, thank you , you money grubbing gits...... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif I just bought the DVD Edition to show my support for this game ( I ALREADY have everything, including Pe-2). Now, for the addons that I am willing to pay for, I have to buy ANOTHER fooking DVD!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Man, they really have learned from Microsucks. Way to go, screw over your fan-base. Alright, psycho fanbois, delete my post or tell me how wrong I am.......

Double_A2006
10-06-2006, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by faustnik:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Double_A2006:
For release in "Europe and Australia".

And again the North American market is left out. I wonder if there is a legal issue going on that will not permit the game to be sold here. Grummen???? I don't know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

I urdered a disk thingy frum sum UK place once, I think it's in Yurp. They shipped it on an areplane all the way cross da Adlantic Sea. Didn't even pay fur it in real money, jist sum silly L thingies. Got here no problem, easy as apple pie I tells ya! The wunders of modern tichnology. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are you trying to be a smart *** with the way you are wording things. I understand how shipping and world economy works smart ***. Without your educational instructions none the less. Why don't you go make some more of your irrelevant charts fanboy.

foxyboy1964
10-06-2006, 02:04 PM
I'm sure mates in the States (hey that rhymes) will be able to get it....

faustnik
10-06-2006, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Double_A2006:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by faustnik:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Double_A2006:
For release in "Europe and Australia".

And again the North American market is left out. I wonder if there is a legal issue going on that will not permit the game to be sold here. Grummen???? I don't know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

I urdered a disk thingy frum sum UK place once, I think it's in Yurp. They shipped it on an areplane all the way cross da Adlantic Sea. Didn't even pay fur it in real money, jist sum silly L thingies. Got here no problem, easy as apple pie I tells ya! The wunders of modern tichnology. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are you trying to be a smart *** with the way you are wording things. I understand how shipping and world economy works smart ***. Without your educational instructions none the less. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Hahahahah!!!!!! I was just kidding, and yes trying to be a smartass. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

HuninMunin
10-06-2006, 02:06 PM
Think about it that way:
I have allready spend 8+ euros for a ticket to the movies, for a max of 3 hours of fun.
I have spend about 200 euros (equipment included) for the FAP series; roughly having about 1-3 hours of fun a day for the last 5 years.
THATS justafiable price.

F19_Orheim
10-06-2006, 02:10 PM
"an online Khalkin Gol / Nomonhan map."

http://www.airforce.ru/history/khalkin-gol/kh-gol_1.jpg

mmm yummie... spells "Cr@pplane area"http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ploughman
10-06-2006, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Da_Godfatha:
Well now, thank you , you money grubbing gits...... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif I just bought the DVD Edition to show my support for this game ( I ALREADY have everything, including Pe-2). Now, for the addons that I am willing to pay for, I have to buy ANOTHER fooking DVD!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Man, they really have learned from Microsucks. Way to go, screw over your fan-base. Alright, psycho fanbois, delete my post or tell me how wrong I am.......

You know, when I read what they were going to do I thought, 'I'd be pretty pissed off if I'd bought the DVD Edition already.'

It does extract the urine a little.

F19_Orheim
10-06-2006, 02:12 PM
1000(!!!!) new paint schemes!!

HuninMunin
10-06-2006, 02:13 PM
I wonder if that 1000 include the community made default skins csThor and others have been working on.

VMF-214_HaVoK
10-06-2006, 02:23 PM
"PCs in Europe and Australia" wtf!

Its nice to see UBI appreciates the US customer base. Once again they leave us out. Hopefully Jason can get his hands on some. Or perhaps we can download it.

madsarmy
10-06-2006, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
It does extract the urine a little.

I've bought them all & I'm going to have to buy them again.

Sort of sucks really. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Looks like I'm going to have a whole shelf dedicated to the IL2 series.

ploughman
10-06-2006, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
"PCs in Europe and Australia" wtf!

Its nice to see UBI appreciates the US customer base. Once again they leave us out. Hopefully Jason can get his hands on some. Or perhaps we can download it.

If it really turns out that you can't get hold of it, I'm sure we can work something out. You helped us out in WWII, we help you out now. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

triad773
10-06-2006, 02:28 PM
It'd be nice if a distro place would carry it for the US market: spare some freight and such. Otherwise I have no problem buying in Euros.

Heard that Saddam wanted to change from 'petro-dollars' to Euros- but then the US invaded.

They spend the same to me.

I think we can thank our feinds at Northrup/Grumman for the North American blankout. Evidently they aren't making enough on Iraq http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Da_Godfatha
10-06-2006, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by madsarmy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ploughman:
It does extract the urine a little.

I've bought them all & I'm going to have to buy them again.

Sort of sucks really. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Looks like I'm going to have a whole shelf dedicated to the IL2 series. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good for you mate. But I think it is WRONG, plain and simple. I have always been willing to support OM and 1C, but this is a little too much. Maybe, just maybe, the addons can be bought seperate (I am not holding my breath).

And I do think, this will finally split the community.... how long do you think the U.S. customers are going to take FUBISofts Anti-American attitude? How many are going to buy it yet again? Sure, many will come here and say "me, me, me", but will they really?

Hey FUBISoft, get your crapola together!

foxyboy1964
10-06-2006, 02:32 PM
It'll be available in the U.S., dont worry. Do you really think that Ivan, Bearcat and Hunter82 wont be getting it.

Double_A2006
10-06-2006, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by foxyboy1964:
It'll be available in the U.S., dont worry. Do you really think that Ivan, Bearcat and Hunter82 wont be getting it.

HMMMMMM. Same thing said about the PE addon and the complete DVD.

foxyboy1964
10-06-2006, 02:43 PM
Cant you guys get the Pe add on? I'm pretty sure LEBill fish has got it and she's in the States. Did the DVD not go on sale over there? If it didnt then I wasnt aware of that. However, I'm sure something will be worked out.

Rammathorn_
10-06-2006, 02:47 PM
People in the US can get the Pe-2 addon just as easily as anybody else. We all have to go through the French site and download BoontyBox - it doesn't discriminate.

As for '46 being a complete addition, I like the idea, but it would be nice if it was also offered as a patch (download only). Before boontybox I would have thought this to be easily accomplished, but we'll see...

Sillius_Sodus
10-06-2006, 02:54 PM
Tempest in a teacup guys/gals. Let's wait until the thing is actually released before we start in on where we can or can't get the thing or how. A lot can change between now and November.

Good hunting,
Sillius_Sodus

LEBillfish
10-06-2006, 03:07 PM
LMAO http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif, this community by far reminds me of the wealthy women on vacation in Miami or some other resort destination.........No matter how you offer it to them, no matter how they demand it evenif they get it exactly like they ask, they'll always find a reason to complain about it and want it exactly opposite of how they're getting it.......Then naturally when they get it that way want it back the other way.


Ok, I've had enough of this cwap!.....Admit it, you're all old blue haired wealthy women on vacation aren't you?

p.s......Don't take this press release as Gospel just yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

F19_Orheim
10-06-2006, 03:13 PM
bill.. that gif makes me dizzy!!! stop movinghttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jasonbirder
10-06-2006, 03:34 PM
So let me get this straight...
I've already bought the Complete Edition DVD and i've purchased the download version of Pe2 EXPECTING to be able to obtain the SoM and `46 expansions the same way (not unreasonably because thats exactly what we were told would happen at the time Pe2 was released)
So now to obtain those add on's i'll be required to purchase thw whole FB/AEP/PF series over AGAIN (a third time!!!) and the Pe2 Expansion (making my earlier purchase a complete waste of time...) not mentioning the inconvenience of actually having to obtain a physical DVD rather than just clicking and obtaining it from my desk...
I love the series and have invested so much time and emotion in it that i will obviously obtain and enjoy the add ons when they come...but from a marketing point of view i'll give them a big fat zero.
It just makes me incredibly wary of getting involved in another 1C/UBI game again (makes it sound like a relationship doesn't it...and i guess i've had plenty of relationships that haven't lasted as long as my love affair with FD/AEP/PF).
I have to say tht it really puts me off picking up the BoB series when it arrives...as i generally only have enough free time to devote to one or two games at a time...i'll hope that Fighter Ops have a product on the market by then or maybe Lead Persuit will ahve released their follow up to F4AF instead...
Way to go guy's...I was someone who posted here defending the decision to release the Pe2 expansion as a pay for download when so many where typing their UBI sucks messages...and yet you've evn managed to alienate this Fanboi with yourrelease policy...nice work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

bhunter2112
10-06-2006, 03:43 PM
Thank you UBI and 1c. All material up to 4.07M on a DVD ...sweet. I bought the complete DVD (4.04M) who cares I would have spent $60 on the single add-ons anyway. This wraps it all together. Very good news.

crazyivan1970
10-06-2006, 03:47 PM
First of all ladies and gents... untill it posted on pacific-fighters main page it is NOT OFFICIAL, ok? How many times we have been thru this?

Second of all, if you think it`s a ripoff, think again. Nobody is charging you for early stuff, you will be charged for addon, consider "other" things AS A BONUS.

There http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JG52Uther
10-06-2006, 03:50 PM
I suppose it will reinstalls easier,but it does leave a slightly nasty taste in the mouth.It would be nice to have at least the option of having SoM/46 as download.

crazyivan1970
10-06-2006, 03:54 PM
Can someone enlighten me please, cause i am having hard time understanding. DVD - isnt it something you all wanted? I am confused....

Aeronautico
10-06-2006, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Nobody is charging you for early stuff, you will be charged for addon, consider "other" things AS A BONUS.

Exactly. How much was Pe-2, ‚"ö¨ 15? One would expect the same for Manchuria & '46, total ‚"ö¨ 30.
I bet that will be the DVD price... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ploughman
10-06-2006, 03:59 PM
So it'll be a DVD?

crazyivan1970
10-06-2006, 04:01 PM
I cannot confirm anything at this point, even the fact that such anouncement actually took place. There are some things missing from anouncement.... so i dont trust its officiality http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MM-Zorin
10-06-2006, 04:01 PM
I don't get it either, crazyivan1970.

Lets face it, most of the IL2 fans are over 30 and should be able to live on even after they spent 40$ for this DVD. It is proofed with so many polls and therefor I don't blame UBI and 1C for expecting that those can spent that money without becoming a subject to the welfare.

I, for example, am 22 and study architecture and spent more than that during one month on stuff I need to build, draw and what not and I'm still willing to pay for this, even if I can't afford it. And yes, I bought Pe2, but after having suffered a HD crash I really appreciated this complete version, cause installing all the addons and patches and such is just horrible, so I don't mind the "loss" of the 20$. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JG52Uther
10-06-2006, 04:04 PM
Ivan can you translate Olegs comments in this thread please?
Does it say 2 add ons released 'very soon' + a complete DVD?
http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?t=43356&page=3

jasonbirder
10-06-2006, 04:05 PM
DVD - isnt it something you all wanted?
Errr no, I enjoyed the speed, relative cheapness and convenience of a download...

Aeronautico
10-06-2006, 04:06 PM
DVD of course, how would one fit that all in a CD? Multiple CDs? UBI had already gone to DVD wih the Complete Edition...


CrazyIvan: UBI made the same announcement in Italy, officially. What is missing that you are referring to?

jasonbirder
10-06-2006, 04:16 PM
I guess its just my own fault...when i read way back when that SoM and `46 would be available for download soon after the release of Pe2 and there was little to no chance of the expansions being made available on DVD....at least in the short term I guess i should have expected that SoM and '46 WOULDN'T be available as a download and WOULD be released on one DVD

Oh and i guess if its released as one complete edition...I guess that will mean moving all my skin files and mission files and backing up all my campaigns and saving my config.ini etc etc...cheers guys...good to see you taking notice of all the people that complained about having to substitute the two EXE files following the Pe2 installation and making the installation process EVEN more difficult...

crazyivan1970
10-06-2006, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
Ivan can you translate Olegs comments in this thread please?
Does it say 2 add ons released 'very soon' + a complete DVD?
http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?t=43356&page=3

Yes, he talks about 406 and 407 being released soon on the media...
Also, Oleg speaks about possiblity of releasing ultimate edition DVD that will have everything ever made for IL2 up to 4.07. Also it will containt latest BOB movie, movie about dev team and how BOB is being developed...and some other things. When and how it will be released he does not specify. Also, further in that thread, he hints that minimum specs reqs for BOB will be possible anounced in August 2007 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ICDP
10-06-2006, 04:42 PM
Guys don't be too angry about having to re-purchase what you have already purchased. I know it is easy to think "rip-off" but think of how much the Pe2 addon cost. Here in the UK it cost me ‚£12, I fully expected to pay the same for each of the new addons. So the next two addons would have cost us ‚£24 not to mention the possibility of them being boontified.

This new complete edition will be released for around the same price as the two new addons (or less) and will not be boontified. Is that such a big problem, it seems like win win for us http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Stackhouse25th
10-06-2006, 04:43 PM
Wo wooo im so excited!

http://forum.ogrish.com/images/smilies/WANK.gif

badaboom.1
10-06-2006, 04:47 PM
O.K.I know things are in the very early stages here but..."4.06& 4.07 released to media"....does that mean a download version without complete dvd thing?

F19_Orheim
10-06-2006, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
I cannot confirm anything at this point, even the fact that such anouncement actually took place. There are some things missing from anouncement.... so i dont trust its officiality http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Ivan This looks very much like a pressrelease... and what is more "official" than a pressrelease?

carguy_
10-06-2006, 05:07 PM
Ok lets see I was saving a month for 4.05 hmmmm.... so it is time to think of a 5year plan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JG54_Lukas
10-06-2006, 05:24 PM
So typical of the people here...Ubi puts the ENTIRE game on DVD, not to mention all the extras, and yet people still complain. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

This sim could cover every inch of every WWII battleground and every aircraft of the conflict, and yet people would still find something to gripe about. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Malik_VII
10-06-2006, 05:28 PM
I may be crazy but I like to have an excuse to run down to Best Buy/ComppUSA and pick up the box and take it to the cute girl in the check out.

I said I'd buy the complete edition too until I found out I had to order it over the web. So I hope they change their minds about the U.S.

crazyivan1970
10-06-2006, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
I cannot confirm anything at this point, even the fact that such anouncement actually took place. There are some things missing from anouncement.... so i dont trust its officiality http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Ivan This looks very much like a pressrelease... and what is more "official" than a pressrelease? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It just contradicts with something... but things could have been changed. So, at this point i dont know.

Da_Godfatha
10-06-2006, 06:23 PM
@Ivan and everyone else, what is there not to understand. I HAVE THE FRIGGING COMPLETE DVD VERSION TO 4.04 !!!!!! Many of us do, and many of us bought the Pe-2 addon. Why should I buy ANOTHER DVD to get the other two addons? Please explain.

It makes no differance if it costs 30 Euro or even 20 Euro, it is not right. BTW Ivan, those people who cried and complained amd made polls "demanding" the addons on DVD, are the ones who were most likely too frigging STUPID to work around the BootyBox thing.

Again, if it is released as a pay download,(just the two, Manchuria and '46), I haveno problems with it. But,I don't think so.

Lets set the facts straight, for years the community has said " Oleg, we will gladly pay for the addons, we don't need them for free." And when it came down to it, most of the same loud-mouths whined and cried about it. Read the posts, you know who you are. I think what they did was right. I gladly paid. And yes, if it is true, what the press release is saying, I do feel "ripped-off".

I really, really hope that FUBIsoft puts out a addon-only, or at least makes the addons, and just the addons, availible to us customers who already have the last Complete DVD Collection.

carguy_
10-06-2006, 07:01 PM
Not much of a rip off IMO.

I think we`ll pay only for those two addons and some extra stuff more than anything else on the DVD.

Maybe the concept was to release them on one dvd for 40$,they thought it was better to give EVERYTHING for little more $.Cuz I don`t think SoM & `46 would`ve cost anything below 30$.Those are two separate products theoretically after all.

HuninMunin
10-06-2006, 07:33 PM
Wheres the damn rip-off?
I have bought and played all parts of this series over the last 5 years.
This DVD will most likely cost 30 euros at the most, wich is exactly the price you'd pay for the 2 downloads.
Well, people complained like mad about the download stuff, me included, now we get a DVD with both addons for the price of the two downloads (probably) and get the whole series + extras, skins etc. along with it for free.
Where is the rip-off?

LEBillfish
10-06-2006, 07:42 PM
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p1ngu666
10-06-2006, 08:41 PM
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weather its a ripoff depends on the price...

the complete edition thats out now, theres 2 versions already? thats a mistake tho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

LEBillfish
10-06-2006, 08:51 PM
How is this confusing everyone?

If 4.06+4.07 ALONE would cost you 2x PE2, or roughly $36.00.......

yet

The new DVD which includes EVERYTHING (IL2FB/AEP/PF/PE2/Patches/4.06/4.07/even more content) and more on 1 disc will cost roughly $36.00

how are you getting screwed?

wayno7777
10-06-2006, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG52Uther:
Ivan can you translate Olegs comments in this thread please?
Does it say 2 add ons released 'very soon' + a complete DVD?
http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?t=43356&page=3

Yes, he talks about 406 and 407 being released soon on the media...
Also, Oleg speaks about possiblity of releasing ultimate edition DVD that will have everything ever made for IL2 up to 4.07. Also it will containt latest BOB movie, movie about dev team and how BOB is being developed...and some other things. When and how it will be released he does not specify. Also, further in that thread, he hints that minimum specs reqs for BOB will be possible anounced in August 2007 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Also, further in that thread, he hints that minimum specs reqs for BOB will be possible anounced in August 2007

Bearcat99
10-06-2006, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Double_A2006:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by foxyboy1964:
It'll be available in the U.S., dont worry. Do you really think that Ivan, Bearcat and Hunter82 wont be getting it.

HMMMMMM. Same thing said about the PE addon and the complete DVD. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have Pe-2.. and Ill get this if it is the only way to get SoM & 46... but truth be told... I paid full priced for IL2, FB, The AEP, PF & PE2... now if this thing goes for like $40 I wont mind.. considering that SOM & 46 would have probably been @ $20 apiece anyway... but we'll see. It cant be but so much.

BBB_Hyperion
10-06-2006, 11:34 PM
The point of having it on a dvd is that all sfs files got a new encryption and that means cheatprotection that is not there on 4.04 and 4.05 versions which got hacked as some know. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Right decision for new DVD with all addons .

timholt
10-06-2006, 11:38 PM
In my humble opinion this is the best way they could have done this.
I too have purchased everything for this game including the Complete DVD (that I did not need at the time, but it came in bloody handy when I had to reload everything).
I am sure the cost of the Final DVD won't be much more than paying for 2 more addons separately and, we get the added bonus of having EVERYTHING on one DVD.
Add up the hours of entertainment this series has given you and the cost per hour is but a pittance.
Roll on Nov 27.

Bearcat99
10-07-2006, 12:14 AM
I look at it this way... and I didnt even dig at the time of my first post that the DVD would possibly be the entire series.. from FB to 46.. plus all the other stuff to boot, the skins... the convenience.. the detailed documentation.. even if I do have to print it out.....

Considering that I paid full price for every version that I have from IL2 to Pe2 that would bring the final cost of the software alone to over $200.... $239.95 to be exact... and thats minus the tax.. ($49.99+$49.99+$39.99+$29.99+19.99=$189.95) Hmmmmmmmm now lets see.. even if it was say...... $50 that would be basically $240.00 for the entire series... $240.00 divided by 1460.. which is the number of days (4 years give or take a few months ) approximately that I have been flying in this series... That comes to $.16 a day... $1.15 a week, $60.00 a year.... Now $60... hmmmmmmm lets see that's.... a family night out for dinner at Carrabbas' with the tip and two glasses of wine included (family of 4), almost the cost of taking my entire family to the movies... and getting one snack apiece (The nacho things.. or the popcorn thing etc... or the bread nuggets... ), less than 2 one day tickets to Six Flags (A theme park chain here in the states..), the cost of four ink cartriges for my printer (seperate ink tanks...) , 2 USB cables... (depending on length and where you get em... ), one fill up at the pump (lately..)

I think I made my point....

Ripped off......? And I am still able to enjoy the product? I dont think so.... but that's me. If you just bought the DVD to support 1C then you shouldnt be griping anyway..if you bought it because you initially bought PF and then couldnt find FB & Aces..... well suck it up. Give your PF disk to a friend.... get him hooked too...LOL.

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 01:15 AM
If you think this forum can gripe, you should check out what they said on the Star Wars Fansites when the Re-Re-Re-Releases of the Original Trilogy came out last month, and Lucas isn't even working on a new Star Wars Saga.

All-in-all this is GOOD news. We are getting something many (not all) of us have been screaming for for MONTHS!!! One all-encomposing final Alpha-Omega edition that that covers EVERYTHING (with special features, how many PC games last five years and are finally re-released with special features?)

There's an old saying that you can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. This just proves this. If they had released 4.06 and 4.07 shortly after 4.05, (which admittedly, could have been smoother) everyone who whined about Boonty/download only/not listed in USdollars would have been whining three times as much. Now it seems they put off releasing those add-ons to produce this DVD, and the people who bought the first "Complete" DVD and the Boontified 4.05 are whining that they wouldn't have bought etc., etc. Well when the 4.04 DVD was released, the 4.07 DVD was not planned to happen. They're puuting lot's off stuff on the new DVD just for you. If you don't want it, don't buy it. But the 4.07 DVD is definately a better option, it will make "The Dance" a hell of a lot easier (and I do the dance every two months approximately), it will make it easier for new players to get up to speed, by only having to find/purchase one product, and if, God forbid, a veteran player such as myself needs to replace his copy of the game, that's easier too. And to sweeten the deal, just for you uberwhiners, they're throwing in lots of new stuff.

Boonty-box was the biggest fiasco since the trim-on-a-slider debate of 2004, this makes Boonty a non-issue. Boonty is dead, Boonty's gone. That's something we've all prayed for for six months.

There are still things we don't know. We don't know the exact relese date, we don't know the retail price, and we don't know whether or not there will be a 4.08. But after months of silence, we finally hear something and people are upset. I guess that's not unusual, and even if they gave these away for free, (like they've done with how many add-ons?), people would still find something to gripe about couavengergh.

The final tally for flyable planes is going to be 229(with documentation for all of them, those special features) I consider myself proficient in maybe three, passable in about ten, and familiar with about twenty. (I'm only good in anything for a few days out of the month.) That leaves me about 200 types to learn. Think that's good. I'm glad I don't have to pay a subscription fee to enjoy this sim. I'v been flying flight sims since 1993. This is the best so far, bar none. None of the others come close. I got into this sim in early 2004, that's two and a half years ago, and I'm still ready and willing to spend $40-$50 bucks for more. If you don't think the 4.07 DVD is worth that, don't buy it, no one is putting a gun to your head. If you want to fly online, your going to need it, if you don't think that's fair, go play World of WarCraft or something (did anyone see South Park this week, it was uber).

We have at least another year before Sow:BoB comes out. You have a choice how you are going to spend it, but I'm going to buy this. Do what you want, it's your money.

52 days until 11-27-06 and counting.

F19_Orheim
10-07-2006, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by Akronnick:

52 days until 11-27-06 and counting.
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jasonbirder
10-07-2006, 01:54 AM
I've never whined about anything before...i've always been happy with or at least accepting of everything 1C/UBI has done with this game series...and dont get me wrong I can't WAIT to get my hands on these add ons...and its a mega bonus if they include the new default skins as well...there is no complaint what so ever about that...
BUT releasing the add ons as part of a complete edition DVD...raises the following issues for me...
1. Communication we were told categorically only months ago that the add ons would be released as a pay for download and NOT as a collected DVD.
2.Cost I've already bought the Complete DVD when it was released and i've already bought the Pe2 download ($60 together) now i can quite happily afford 60 bucks...but there are plenty of things i'd rather do with my money than shell out for the same thing twice...
3.Convenience With a download i can obtain the expansions the day they are released without ever leaving my desk...with a DVD, which lets face it is hardly going to be a high profile release I either have to go trawling around multiple game stores (the nearest of which is 40 miles from me) to find a copy OR order it online and wait a week for it to be delivered while evryone else is having fun with it!
4. Installation Given the uproar that swapping out TWO EXE files caused i'm suprised more people haven't moaned about this one...if its an all in one installation...it will mean backing up all my skins and missions, saving all my ongoing campaigns then - uninstalling, cleaning registry, de-fragging, re-installing, then re-installing ALL your skins, missions, campaigns then re-editing your config.ini so thats a whole morning down the drain...my lesiure time is limited...so the morning i could have happily spent in the virtual skies with my new toys is lost to tedious systems administration...

I just don't see any benefit to this at all...No potential new flyers will be attracted to the series as the Complete edition DVD already exists...surely there must be less pofit margin in releasing a physical DVD rather than using their existing online store...and it has got to HURT future sales if they constantly mis-inform and fleece and existing loyal customer base...

madsarmy
10-07-2006, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by MM-Zorin:
I don't get it either, crazyivan1970.

Lets face it, most of the IL2 fans are over 30 and should be able to live on even after they spent 40$ for this DVD. It is proofed with so many polls and therefor I don't blame UBI and 1C for expecting that those can spent that money without becoming a subject to the welfare.

Not everyone has cash to throw around. What I get to live on a week & run my home is laughable. The $40 you talk about is what I have to buy food with every two weeks.
So having to buy a product again that I already own is not the best of situations.
I have supported 1c since the demo & will continue to do so. I do however think that UBI should not have released the complete edition when they are going to release the whole lot again. It‚‚ā¨ôs money for old rope.

I just wonder how many people will see & buy the complete edition before November, come here & find out that they now will have to go out & buy it again to get up to date. The last 12 months of this series has become a shambles thanks to UBI.
I feel sorry for Oleg & team, it must make them wanna spit.

BaronUnderpants
10-07-2006, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
First of all ladies and gents... untill it posted on pacific-fighters main page it is NOT OFFICIAL, ok? How many times we have been thru this?

Second of all, if you think it`s a ripoff, think again. Nobody is charging you for early stuff, you will be charged for addon, consider "other" things AS A BONUS.

There http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


I read that as: Complete edition up to 4.07 = ballpark of 30‚£ ( the price of 4.06 - 4.07 addons alone ) the rest for "free". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


Hope everyone gets that now.....yes u have to buy the intire game again, but u DONT pay for it again...just the 2 NEW addons....clear??

And yes. i prefere a DVD with all the trimmings hands down...as long as u can get your hands on it in a reasonble time frame after realese.( 30 - 40 min tops http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

The big bonus i think is that this DVD will bring up all the servers on HL to the same version again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

slipBall
10-07-2006, 03:30 AM
Good new's!....I wonder if the original game will be included...my cd is starting to show it's age....while I appear to be getting younger http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 03:40 AM
1. Communication Your right, they did say that, but then Boonty happened and they completely clammed up, Many of us took their silence to mean many things, from nothing is changed, to everythings cancelled. Plans change.
2.Cost We don't yet know what the retail cost of 4.07 DVD will be, but if we base the expected price of seperate 4.06/4.07 downloads to be comparable to 4.05, that puts it at about $40US, which is a good estimate for what a DVD will retail for, BUT, it's just that, an estimate, we don't KNOW yet, let's wait till we do.
3. ConvienienceYou sound like Veruca Salt from Willy Wonka, "Don't care how, I WANT IT NOW!!!" I don't think anyone will have a heart attack if they have to wait three days(gasp!) for the UPS guy to show up.
4. Installation If you never have to reinstall your Il-2+AEP+PF+Pe+Pe-2, God bless you, you're lucky. For those of us who might have to, lets go through what a COMPLETE re-install will entail:

step 1: Back up your stuff(pilots, campaigns, missions, skins etc.) But you should do that anyway. (or do you live in a universe where HD's never fail or get corrupted, I know I don't!)
step 2: Install Il-2: Forgotten Battles from disc 1, wait.
step 3: Take out disc 1, replace with disc 2, wait.
step 4: Make sure the game loads
step 5: Install Aces Expansion Pack, wait.
step 6: See step 4.
step 7: Install Pacific Fighters from disc 1, wait.
step 8: take out disc 1, replace with disc 2, wait.(haven't we done this before)
step 9: See step 6.
step 10: Install appropriate patch(es)
step 11: Install 4.05. (assumes you have paid for and downloaded the apropriate files from the Boonty Download)
step 12: de-Boontify your system.
step 13: replace Boontified Il-2.exe's.
step 14: See step 9.
step 15: Put your Stuff(pilots, campaigns skins, etc.) Back were they belong.

This gets us to version 4.05, now, assuming that 4.06 and 4.07 downloads would have had a similar procedure, the total number of steps to do a reinstall would be a whopping 20, granted, the Complete Edition DVD replaces steps 1 through 10 with one step, but that still leaves 11 steps to 4.07. With the 4.07 DVD, the procedure will be something like this:

step 1: Back up your Stuff (You should do that already, unless you have a magic hard drive)
step 2: Install from the 4.07 DVD, wait.
step 3: Make sure the game loads.
step 4: Put your Stuff back. done

Things you won't have to do:
Pay for, download, and save the 4.05, 4.06, and 4.07 add-ons.
De-Boontify anything.

Now, if you aready had Il-2:FB+AEP+PF in their original individual CD configuration and bought the "Complete Edition" 4.04 DVD, you paid for something you already had, no one said you had to buy that to get anything else. The only valid reason was to support 1C:Maddox Games, which is an admirable, but unnecesary gesture. If you buy the 4.07 DVD, you are buying the whole Shebang, old and new, if the price is reasonable, what's your gripe, that something new comes with something you already have, or that people who haven't bought the previous versions don't have to. That's just childish because nobody can do that until the end of November. It's like geting mad that you bought a 2006 car in May and someone else paid the same price for the 2007 model in November, get over it.

Like I said before, If you feel like the 4.07 DVD is worth the retail price, then buy it. If not, don't. And another thing we don't know is whether 4.06/4.07 add-on only won't be available for download. Il-2 Complete Edition is available for Pay downlaod, why wouldn't the final version, whatever it is, be available that way.

Two weeks after this DVD hits the market, I prdict that every decent online server will be running it, and every serious Il-2 player will own, or will be saving their pennies to own, the DVD.

And then the 4.08 begging, whining, pleading cycle will begin...

F6_Ace
10-07-2006, 03:43 AM
Another masterful lesson in customer relations abounds!

-HH-Quazi
10-07-2006, 03:51 AM
I want 4.06m & 4.07m to be available for download since I am this far as is. Plus I will purchase the "Ultimate" Complete DVD all the way up to 4.07m. I am not interested in uninstalling all 13GBs of this sim and all the stuff I have extra already installed. But the next time I reformat, it will be nice to have it all on one DVD.

jasonbirder
10-07-2006, 03:55 AM
I agree with all your points...apart from one fact...there's just no NEED! Yes, i'll only have a short wait and yes there's an element of childish I WANT IT NOW! about it...but if they released it as a seperate download (which is what they said they would do) I COULD have it immediately...Yes its not going to break my bank its only the price of a burger and a few beers...BUT if they released it as a seperate download (which is what they went to great lengths to point out would be their release method) I wouldnt be paying out again for stuff i've already bought...Yes its a relatively simple but time consuming task to un-install and re-install my game and its associated folders BUT if they released it as a seperate download there would be no-need for me to...

It can't be just me that feels all the strident add-ons will be DOWNLOAD only messages we got (Don't even THINK about waiting for a DVD..its not going to happen) were just to make sure the maximum number of people bought the Pe2 expansion online...when there was absolutely no point...because it would be free with the later DVD.

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by F6_Ace:
Another masterful lesson in customer relations abounds!

Couldn't agree more, they should have done it this way to begin with, but since they did it the way they did it, should they stay with a distribution scheme that nobody liked but some were willing to deal with? This just shows that they do listen to the community, even though they aren't very good at communicating with us.(yeah that does seem odd for a publishing combany)

triad773
10-07-2006, 04:02 AM
Cool beans! Release date of Nov. 27? Nice! Perfect- I will get the wife to get it for my birthday which is the next day!

I agree with Bearcat's math- for what I'd spent on the software, the ROI is outstanding! I think I would have kept my rig running like a hot rod regardless http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif tho.

F6_Ace
10-07-2006, 04:03 AM
I agree with your point regarding communication - it's usually bounces between being incorrect, ill-informed or non-existent - but I'm not so sure they have listened to the people who wanted a DVD. I agree with Hyperions post above - the DVD approach is probably more likely to involve a new encryption scheme than anything else.

I also wonder if this release will 'be it' - i.e. no 4.0n (n >= 8) patch(es) - release the entire series on one DVD and then concentrate on BoB (?)

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 04:15 AM
If I remember correctly, right after the Boonty **** hit the fan, they said they were re-evaluating their position vis-a-vis the distrubution method. I don't think they intended to make a DVD, I think they were intending to release 4.06 and 4.07 seperately a few weeks after 4.05 came out, but they re-evaluated that position in light of the problems that people had with 4.05. The last official word was this, from the Pacific Fighters Website, dated 5-2-06:


Dear IL-2 fans,

We want to let you know that Ubisoft is well aware of the problems that some of you may have faced when trying to download or install the Pe-2 add-on. We sincerely apologize for this. Boonty and Ubisoft are currently working on solving these issues as soon as possible.

Thank you for your support, we will keep you posted in the coming days.

Maybe the problems were insurmountable and they decided to go with the DVD option. Like I said in my previous post, they should have done it this way to begin with, but they tried something that didn't work. I think the silence since May 2 was, and continues to be, unwise, but it probably avoided months of frustration and whining for them to wait until they have a product before they make an announcement, this way, we have a few weeks of moaning until everyone who cares gets their copy, then they have nothing to moan about.

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by F6_Ace:
I agree with your point regarding communication - it's usually bounces between being incorrect, ill-informed or non-existent - but I'm not so sure they have listened to the people who wanted a DVD. I agree with Hyperions post above - the DVD approach is probably more likely to involve a new encryption scheme than anything else.

I also wonder if this release will 'be it' - i.e. no 4.0n (n >= 8) patch(es) - release the entire series on one DVD and then concentrate on BoB (?)

It's possible, they've not committed to anything after 4.07, but I think it is likely that some issues will arise with the 4.07 release, requiring a 4.08 "bug fix" patch (like 4.02 after 4.01, and 4.04 after 4.03)

If there is post 4.07 content to be added, I think it will probably be version 4.09, released in late spring 2007, with 4.10 being the final version released soon after.

But that is entirely seculation.

F6_Ace
10-07-2006, 04:32 AM
Hmm...Now you put it like that, I see what you're saying.

Possibly a combination of factors, then.

Boonty was always an obviously stupid course of action (but since when did that stop anyone) because anyone remotely involved with the product who read these forums would know the opposition of the core community to snooping sofware (or anything that could remotely be considered to snoop) like Starforce etc - the debates had been going on for some time and were always 'heated.'

It was entirely analogous to people saying, 'we don't want any faeces' then them having a giant, stinking turd fall out of the box case and into their lap after they'd removed the cellophane (or before, in this case)

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 04:40 AM
Originally posted by F6_Ace:
It was entirely analogous to people saying, 'we don't want any faeces' then them having a giant, stinking turd fall out of the box case and into their lap after they'd removed the cellophane (or before, in this case)

And then marching up to their office and flinging the poo back at them when they got out of their cars.

Yeah, that was about what happened. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Da_Godfatha
10-07-2006, 05:30 AM
I think some of you people just don't understand. What is in the future? BoB, new addon or patch= new BoB Super Edition, next addon= New IMPROVED BoB DvD....etc. etc. etc.

It is like buying a car then taking it to get spark plugs and a oil change, then buying the car all over again....but, you just paid 65,000 Euro for the spark plugs and oil, the car is for FREE !!!!

Man, and I thought this communty had more sense than that! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

DuxCorvan
10-07-2006, 05:53 AM
One of two choices:

1) No Fokker D.XXI, Avia B.534, etc. in the post-4.07 add-on SaQSoN said, or

2) post-4.07 add-on, and again you have to deal with patches, etc.

Anyway I like the DVD thing -if it doesn't hide some Orwellian copy-protect mode which takes note on my porn and pork. I only wish this is available easily and UBI doesn't hide it in some lost corner of the site.

F19_Orheim
10-07-2006, 05:54 AM
nope. It is like having a car, that needs sparkspluds. that cost X $, but instead for getting the spark plugs you get a new car WITH the sparkplags for the same amount of $

I wonder where your sense went

WOLFMondo
10-07-2006, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
nope. It is like having a car, that needs sparkspluds. that cost X $, but instead for getting the spark plugs you get a new car WITH the sparkplags for the same amount of $

I wonder where your sense went

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Whats is with some people. 229 planes? You know how much that would cost for FS9?

DVD edition great! You know you can also download the complete edition from the Ubishop, no doubt this new version will be there. Oh no! Boonty! So what. Its easy to unistall and make a new version of the game without boonty.

jasonbirder
10-07-2006, 06:01 AM
It is like having a car, that needs sparkspluds. that cost X $, but instead for getting the spark plugs you get a new car WITH the sparkplags for the same amount of $

Maybe...but perhaps i like my car as it is and I ONLY want the new spark plugs...I've got my seat adjusted just comfy and i have my favorite bumber stickers on my car...so why should I go and have to change evrything over...besides I don't want to have to go to the garage to pick a new car up...Can't I just have my new spark plugs...like you SAID I could instead http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

jasonbirder
10-07-2006, 06:06 AM
Theres no getting away from the fact...
We were told categorically that the SoM and '46 expansions would be available download ONLY...and expecting a CD/DVD combined release was a non-starter. Yet here they are a combined DVD - which is a kick in the teeth to everyone who purchased the DVD complete edition to show support for 1C...i'm sue they are having a chuckle at our expense http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BaronUnderpants
10-07-2006, 06:09 AM
BTW, i know Ivan said its not "official" but........did anyone go to the UBISOFT webpage to check out the breaking news..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

HuninMunin
10-07-2006, 06:12 AM
But you will not only get a new car but also it will have more comfortable seats, a 5.1 audio system and monitors in the headrests ( Bonus material), for the price of spark plugs and all that will come completely adjusted to your desire without having to touch anything (DVD).

I still say: It its the best thing Ubisoft can do with this brilliant series of games.

And to quote Orheim again ( maybe I'll take it into my sig http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif )->
IL-2 deserves a final, complete DVD.

madsarmy
10-07-2006, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by HuninMunin:
IL-2 deserves a final, complete DVD.

Yes it does! but how many complete additions?

As for the: your getting the series for free & just paying for the add-ons. I have already paid for them twice. Now I got pay a third time.
This means I also pay for the PE-2 twice. When the rest who didnt buy it pay once.

Money For Old Rope!

Aeronautico
10-07-2006, 06:30 AM
I have one question for the ones who complain so much about being ripped off.

What if UBI offers a DVD with IL-2 up to 4.07m for ‚"ö¨ 30, and at the same time a CD with 4.06m & 4.07m for... ‚"ö¨ 30, plus it publishes over the Net the two add-ons separately for ‚"ö¨ 15 each...? All possibilities are covered: WHAT WOULD YOU BUY? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jasonbirder
10-07-2006, 06:31 AM
Add ons over net with or without Boonty...no question would be my favoured purchase option.
In fact if they released it as a download and an all in one DVD i'd probably be happy to buy both...my choice you see...no coercion into HAVING to buy something I don't want...
Its not the $s its the principle...and the inconvenience.

HuninMunin
10-07-2006, 06:34 AM
Not a DVD with bonus contend for the same price?

foxyboy1964
10-07-2006, 06:39 AM
@ BaronUnderpants, can you give a link to the page you are talking about. I havent been able to find any reference to the new release, thanks.

madsarmy
10-07-2006, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by HuninMunin:
Not a DVD with bonus contend for the same price?

Of course I will you muppet but thats not the point is it?

ploughman
10-07-2006, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by foxyboy1964:
@ BaronUnderpants, can you give a link to the page you are talking about. I havent been able to find any reference to the new release, thanks.

No luck here not neither. Appreciate the link also would I.

LEBillfish
10-07-2006, 06:43 AM
LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif you folks slay me......In my bogus MSN press release "I made up" the date of November 27th.........If you'll note as well I said BoB was scheduled for release Fall of 2013.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Kaytoo/news.jpg

There can be only a couple valid reasons for not wanting the entire series on DVD, as the way it stands we have at every add on and patch or reinstall had to transfer or edit our custom files.......as "if" a DVD is roughly the same price of 2 addons;

1. You don't own a DVD player, having then to buy one.
2. It will be more difficult to obtain it/the add-ons illegally due to the sheer size and hopefully some form of copy protection in it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

However it may be released i'd guess you will probably have a download option too, though maybe not..........I'm just hoping they can make the thievery difficult if not impossible.

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and F19_Orheim, to your question about my toes on the SimHQ forum all I can tell you is, think ambrosia http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.....Or it could be i just like foot worship http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Klemm.co
10-07-2006, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by madsarmy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HuninMunin:
IL-2 deserves a final, complete DVD.

Yes it does! but how many complete additions?

As for the: your getting the series for free & just paying for the add-ons. I have already paid for them twice. Now I got pay a third time.
This means I also pay for the PE-2 twice. When the rest who didnt buy it pay once.

Money For Old Rope! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Then don't buy it! Nobody is forcing you to. And if you're feeling like you have to get them but can't because of this drama in form of an DVD which is unfolding so suddenly in front of you (which many people wanted all along), then you have some serious and unsolvable issues (about which no one cares btw).

And maybe when you come to think about it, UBI will probably offer you a download version, and a version of just the two addons together, but it is highly likely that the Addons alone will cost nearly as much as the ULTIMATE (or call it what you want) DVD.

I just can't get what everybody is complaining about. I've waited for this so long to happen, and we got a realistic sounding release date too!

Just my 0.02‚"ö¨.

Abbeville-Boy
10-07-2006, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by foxyboy1964:
@ BaronUnderpants, can you give a link to the page you are talking about. I havent been able to find any reference to the new release, thanks.

No luck here not neither. Appreciate the link also would I. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


i think he was joking about ubi

carguy_
10-07-2006, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by jasonbirder:
Theres no getting away from the fact...
We were told categorically that the SoM and '46 expansions would be available download ONLY...and expecting a CD/DVD combined release was a non-starter. Yet here they are a combined DVD - which is a kick in the teeth to everyone who purchased the DVD complete edition to show support for 1C...i'm sue they are having a chuckle at our expense http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


We were told,we were told...
Do ppl get death sentence for lying in your country?Some of you need to understand this is MARKET that is about MONEY.The business is amoral.There is no 'righ' or 'wrong' here.
There is no 'I promise you' stuff.And if you fell for it,you`re plain naive.
In the end it is you who gets nervous over this.

I think they smuggled few bucks into the price,giving 2.0-4.03 content for like 10$,the rest being SoM&`46.So what?

You know what situation concerns every IL2 n00b?
Buy IL2 GOLD.Ok.Then patch it up.Ok.Then patch it up AGAIN.Then buy SoM.Oh wait a minute there`s one more- `46.

Anyone new to this will have a whole in one package and that alone is very good.No problems with updating,no problems with getting online.

As for the old ones....they buy a new 2in1 product for like 30$(hypothetically) plus extra content plus everything earlier for like 10$.

Now whether you want to buy SoM&`46 is your choice.The other 10$ is what is enough to buy groceries for my family to last for ONE DAY.


Sure,we are overpaying by 10$(hypothetically!),but that is hardly a reason to be pissed over what we`re getting in return.

Finally,for a niche market that IL2 is,there comes a 'support the team' factor into play.
I support them because I`ve NEVER seen such continous game support and I think they deserve it.

ploughman
10-07-2006, 06:56 AM
Thought so, but I did wonder. After all you'd maybe expect a press release to appear there if there was one. Crazy_Ivan thinks it's a DVD, but not in November and is feeling contradicted. LEBillFish seems to have connected the impending release with having her toes sucked, but isn't promising anything until 2013. I just don't know who to believe anymore.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

foxyboy1964
10-07-2006, 06:58 AM
Well said Carguy, I agree 100% http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

F19_Orheim
10-07-2006, 07:01 AM
Lillbill.. Custard??????


hehehttp://www.premierfoods.co.uk/fms//Document%20Tree/Product%20Images/Ambrosia%20Products/Custard/Custard425g.jpg

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 07:06 AM
Billfish, It's 2006, it's time to get a DVD drive for your computer. They're cheap, and you can do lots of stuff besides play Il-2, you can even watch movies right on your computer screen if you have one! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

foxyboy1964
10-07-2006, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
Thought so, but I did wonder. After all you'd maybe expect a press release to appear there if there was one. Crazy_Ivan thinks it's a DVD, but not in November and is feeling contradicted. LEBillFish seems to have connected the impending release with having her toes sucked, but isn't promising anything until 2013. I just don't know who to believe anymore.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

LEBillfish
10-07-2006, 07:20 AM
Laugh all you want Orheim but toe suckers will always hold a special place in my heart, if I had one.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

and what computer Akronnick?...I play this sim on an Etch-A-Sketch with 2 tin cans and a string for my net connection...(though yes I realize I need a DVD though it will only be used for installations).

On a lighter note however;
"New Maps - Large new historical maps of the Kiev region, a Manchuria region map focusing on the border between the USSR, China and Japanese-occupied Korea, a large bonus Burma map and an online Khalkin Gol / Nomonhan map."

WOOOOHOOOOO!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif It's no New Guinea from Rabaul to Hollandia, yet these are vastly important maps for any who fly Japanese http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 07:28 AM
Where the hell is Khalkin Gol / Nomonhan?

F19_Orheim
10-07-2006, 07:34 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khalkhin_Gol

DuxCorvan
10-07-2006, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by Akronnick:
Where the hell is Khalkin Gol / Nomonhan?

No idea. Sounds like something from a Gengis Khan movie. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 07:39 AM
That Wiki article doesn't make it completely clear, but It's somewhere in Northeastern Asia, most Likely between Manchuria/Mongolia

LEBillfish
10-07-2006, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by Akronnick:
Where the hell is Khalkin Gol / Nomonhan?

*Slaps Akronnick around a bit with a large trout*

I was going to post a map yet you really need to look this up. This is really the beginning of WWII for the Japanese & Soviet Union using China as the stage and mentioned in so many references it is not even funny. It is on the border of Manchuria and Outer Mongolia......It without a doubt inspired the Japanese war machine to start rolling (though in truth I don't believe was all that successful). Yet it's a time the Japanese took a lot of pride in inspiring them to do even more.

Think of it as a "Germany invades Poland" kinda thing.

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 07:46 AM
*wipes fish guts off face*

I deserved that.

Ya'll will have to forgive me for being dense, Since I just got off the night shift and need to go to bed.

LEBillfish
10-07-2006, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by Akronnick:
Ya'll will have to forgive me for being dense, Since I just got off the night shift and need to go to bed.

No, not at all, it's just one of those high points of history that if you study Japan's aggression you'll see how minor yet important it was (as it really IMLTHO inspired the Soviets to avoid conflict with them, and also caused a tremendous influx of mercenaries, eventually possibly inspiring the AVG later on).

It really was not a big deal, but it's the subtle significances of it that made it important.

heywooood
10-07-2006, 08:43 AM
nothing like good news to wake up to..until you start reading the reactions. WoW.

DVD complete one install - one disc? excellent.
no more rediculous 'patch sequence'? cool.
Did I already pay for some or half of the new DVD content?..yep.
Do I mind? hellsno - because now its all in one and nice and clean with a ton of new maps - planes - campaigns - FMB objects - probably AI tweaks - and FM/DM improvements.

Who cares what you've already bought...if you've owned everything from day one, it has cost you what.... .015 centavos a week?

Get over yourselves - oh and anyone that doesnt have a DVD drive on their pc is a flintstone.

I do have one question however - will the new antihack encription code create problems with existing 3rd party campaigns or utilities? like UQMG etc...

DuxCorvan
10-07-2006, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by a handsome guy:
Sounds like something from a Gengis Khan movie.


Originally posted by LEBillfish:
It is on the border of Manchuria and Outer Mongolia...

See?

"Aaaaarrrgh!!! @#&%#%!!! Khalkin Gooooool!!!"
http://dvdbcko.dvdcritiques.com/upload/3351/Capt_film.jpg

Chuck_Older
10-07-2006, 08:56 AM
Can't see how 3rd party campaigns are affected- they are made with the program itself

Bearcat99
10-07-2006, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by Da_Godfatha:
I think some of you people just don't understand. What is in the future? BoB, new addon or patch= new BoB Super Edition, next addon= New IMPROVED BoB DvD....etc. etc. etc.

It is like buying a car then taking it to get spark plugs and a oil change, then buying the car all over again....but, you just paid 65,000 Euro for the spark plugs and oil, the car is for FREE !!!!

Man, and I thought this communty had more sense than that! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

I never understood the car analogy when it came to this sim. The bottom line is yo arent spending anywhere near 65,000 Euros.... so the comparison is silly. AFAIC if the DVD will cost me between $40 & $50 then it's great... considering that each add on would have been @$18-20 anyway.. I think it is also a good move for all those who may be totallynew to the sim and it would make it eeasier for them to get the whole 9 and not have to patch this that and the other.... The folks who are complaining just need to chill and wait and see. Then if warranted gripe all you want.....

Chuck_Older
10-07-2006, 09:00 AM
It would be like the car analogy if there was a law someplace saying that purchasing the program was required or you go to jail

last time I checked, I was a 35 year old grownup who could make considered decisions for himself. Doing what some member of an online forum thinks I should just because he she or it has a bad attitude would be proof positive that I had no sense

Godfatha, don't buy it. Give UbiSoft your opinion with your checkbook. Show them what you think

Chuck_Older
10-07-2006, 09:06 AM
<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Oh

Something to consider, all- the website that has this news is not in English. It is translated. Nowhere does it say that the North American market will not get this Complete Version. It lists two places where the release is listed on a certain date, not that all other areas are excluded

We are all familiar with the staggered release. For some reason, Ubi likes to release titles and add-ons at different times for different regions. We've seen this before. The facts in the article do NOT SAY that the North American market is excluded from getting the Complete Version, it merely gives a date at which two regions WILL get it. Do not read into the article more than is reported, you are guessing and jumping to conclusions otherwise</span>

notamuppet
10-07-2006, 09:09 AM
Hello I will buy it (i bought the full DVD and Pe-2 thing) I will be good to get a lot of skins and I am interest in the interview and BOB stuff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

bienenbaer
10-07-2006, 09:21 AM
Today I stood in front of the DVD shelve at one of the towns megastores. Almost bought myself the MFS 2004 Starfighter add-on from Profisoft, but then switched to frugal mode.

All those MFS add-ons aren't cheap. Even if Ubi-Soft sold the complete 4.07 version for the price of a new flight-sim, this would still be a comparative bargain. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Plus: Somebody new to this game might pick up the 4.07 complete. Isn't everybody complaining that our fan base is too small? - I believe it's a very good move from Ubis-Soft (*). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

SUGGESTION http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif : For each 109 posts a member of the community made, he gets a free copy of 4.07 complete with the BINDING OBLIGATION to gift to a colleague or friend. As soon as that one shows up on the forum and complains that his chosen plane sucks or whatsoever is wrong be sure ... yap yap yap, our lucky member gets a 1 mph advantage in his chosen wing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif .

(*) Well, I will probably back up all my skins and missions before installing the 4.07 complete addition

NerdConnected
10-07-2006, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
so much for 2 weeks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://www.fz.se/artiklar/article.php?id=1458 (http://www.fz.se/artiklar/article.%3CBR%3Ephp?id=1458)

That's very good news indeed ;-)

I hope some AI fixes are also included, because Oleg sort of promised, when Maddox could find some spare time, to look into this. They've certainly made some code changes for the Lerche and rockets, so let's hope they included some other stuff as well.

Must say this part looks to be particularly nice:

".... A Detailed Plane Guide, totalling over 450 pages of information, gives the low-down on every single one of your 229 flyable aircraft, and allows new players much easier access to the incredible variety of aircraft in the simulator."

Mark

heywooood
10-07-2006, 09:59 AM
yes there is way more upside than downside to this.

And sure the new code protection shouldn't cause any conflicts...I just hope it doesn't.

Nice new AVG skins BtW Chuck/Chris.

HuninMunin
10-07-2006, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by madsarmy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HuninMunin:
Not a DVD with bonus contend for the same price?

Of course I will you muppet but thats not the point is it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wasn't talking to you pal.

horseback
10-07-2006, 10:29 AM
When it comes - IF it comes, I will happily buy it, and install it on my new 200Gb secondary hard drive.

The rest of you guys can do what you want, and I won't criticize you unless it looks like it might be fun.

cheers

horseback

diomedes33
10-07-2006, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by BBB_Hyperion:
The point of having it on a dvd is that all sfs files got a new encryption and that means cheatprotection that is not there on 4.04 and 4.05 versions which got hacked as some know. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Right decision for new DVD with all addons .

Excellent point, Hyperion.

If the encryption scheme did change, all the sfs files, exe's and supporting files would need to be redownloaded in their entirety. That's ALL of the content for Il2FB, AEP, PF and additional patches. That would be a 1.5ish GB download. That is not including the new content for Manchuria and '46. So ballpark figure, 2GB.

I for one would rather pay an extra $10-$20 for a DVD + BOB bonus content, instead of waiting 6-10 hours for a download then spend the next couple chasing down transfer errors only to have to download it again and hope that it works 6-10 hours later. Of course you can do other things around the house or sleep while its downloading, but it does lock up your internet connection for the day. I had to download Pe-2 twice because the first one was corrupt. It happens nothing, is perfect. An hour download wasn't a big deal.

In addition to this, ubi to the put forth the bandwidth ($$). We as a community routinely crash the ubi servers when patches come out and those are
relatively small in comparision, about 100 MB. You may have to wait a couple weeks before you can even get on the server to wait 10 hours. Find out your download was corrupted, and wait another week before you can get on again.

Of course this is assuming, they changed the encryption scheme and worst case scenario, and my own understanding of how data encryption is handled by il2, which may be or may not be correct.

How much are you willing to pay for luxury and how much is your time worth to you? For me I wouldn't be bothered by $20 + cost of manchuria and '46 (going rate seems to be $30). In the time saved, I could do an odd job for someone to pay for the additional costs.

BaronUnderpants
10-07-2006, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Abbeville-Boy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ploughman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by foxyboy1964:
@ BaronUnderpants, can you give a link to the page you are talking about. I havent been able to find any reference to the new release, thanks.

No luck here not neither. Appreciate the link also would I. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


i think he was joking about ubi </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Correct..........took a stab at UBI`s exelent webpage crew.

ElAurens
10-07-2006, 11:04 AM
This is the best solution, by far.
And yes, I have purchased every edition of the game that was ever made avialable. Even the first "complete" DVD that was so kindly brought to the US by Jason at GoGamer, and Pe2.

I can now put all those previous disks, and a thumbdrive(for Pe2) in my software museum (HEHE) and have one disk at the ready should I need to re-install. Bliss I tells ya, pure bliss.

You folks that are complaining should go back to your elementary and primary schools and ask for a refund, you clearly got shortchanged on your educations.

Orheim and Billfish, I look forward to peering out the open canopy of my Ki27 and seeing you in the skys over Manchuria.

joeap
10-07-2006, 11:20 AM
Cool excellent news, should have been done from the beginning. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
10-07-2006, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
"PCs in Europe and Australia" wtf!

Its nice to see UBI appreciates the US customer base. Once again they leave us out. Hopefully Jason can get his hands on some. Or perhaps we can download it.

If it really turns out that you can't get hold of it, I'm sure we can work something out. You helped us out in WWII, we help you out now. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

HuninMunin
10-07-2006, 12:47 PM
Here ya go ya ole whiners:

Luthier shared some info over at SimHQ:

* The add-ons WILL be sold separately as well, online only, in the same way as the Pe-2 add-on.

* The price of the full-blown DVD is the same as the price of the two unreleased addons put together.

* The DVD edition will contain 2 DVDs: one with the game, and one entire DVD with extras, including making-of videos, and exclusive BoB preview content.

* DVD will be in stores in mid-November.

* RRG Site's been updated with some more screenshots.


the thread (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=144;t=006426;p=2)

Da_Godfatha
10-07-2006, 01:06 PM
This is just great... if you don't toe the party line, your insulted and told basicly to f*ck-off and STFU. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif I thought that crapola ended in 1945.

Sorry Bearcat if you do not understand about the car thingy..... nothin I can do about it.

Tsk, Tsk, Tsk...... just when I thought things on this forum was getting better, the psycho fanboi's and fangurl's unfoil their ugly faces....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

foxyboy1964
10-07-2006, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by HuninMunin:
Here ya go ya ole whiners:

Luthier shared some info over at SimHQ:

* The add-ons WILL be sold separately as well, online only, in the same way as the Pe-2 add-on.

* The price of the full-blown DVD is the same as the price of the two unreleased addons put together.

* The DVD edition will contain 2 DVDs: one with the game, and one entire DVD with extras, including making-of videos, and exclusive BoB preview content.

* DVD will be in stores in mid-November.

* RRG Site's been updated with some more screenshots.


the thread (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=144;t=006426;p=2)


Thank you very much HuninMunin, I guess that makes it official(ish) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ElAurens
10-07-2006, 01:24 PM
HuninMunin, any idea of the time frame for the DL addons?

VF-17_BOOM
10-07-2006, 01:44 PM
This is excellent news indeed,It's a win-win situation for UBI/RRG/and the IL2 fanbase.....GREAT IDEA!!!!!Now how can anyone complain with these options we're given!!
Who ever came up with the idea Thank You! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

PBNA-Boosher
10-07-2006, 01:55 PM
I'm worried about North American markets! Eep! I hope we get it!

foxyboy1964
10-07-2006, 02:04 PM
@ PBNA-Boosher

Hey guys,

If this is indeed a full-blown DVD with extras and whatnot, I can assure you that GoGamer will have it. No worries for US customers.

Jason

HuninMunin
10-07-2006, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
HuninMunin, any idea of the time frame for the DL addons?

I now nothing more than all of us do; but I'd say either at the same time as the DVD (mid November) or slightly ahead ( minus 2 weeks, be shure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif).

Ey, Godfatha; don't you think its a little to "intense" to put Nazis and us "fanboys" in one sentence?
Just join the party and admit that I was right http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Rjel
10-07-2006, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
....I think it is also a good move for all those who may be totallynew to the sim and it would make it eeasier for them to get the whole 9 and not have to patch this that and the other.... The folks who are complaining just need to chill and wait and see. Then if warranted gripe all you want.....

Good point, I guess. I think my bigger problem is simply the IL2 franchise seems like a ship without a rudder as it is being steered by Ubi. I doubt I would've bought the DVD complilation had I known this later version was going to be released in November. It's all well and good to have everything on a final DVD, but it isn't what we were told was going to happen. Not the best way to maintain good customer relations, IMO.

foxyboy1964
10-07-2006, 02:36 PM
Is this a D9 with X4 rockets?
http://www.rrgstudios.com/img/1946/34_full.jpg
In other words, is it flyable?

HuninMunin
10-07-2006, 02:47 PM
Even better.
Its a Ta-152 C with X-4 air to air missiles. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

foxyboy1964
10-07-2006, 02:50 PM
cool http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

slo_1_2_3
10-07-2006, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by JG54_Lukas:
So typical of the people here...Ubi puts the ENTIRE game on DVD, not to mention all the extras, and yet people still complain. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

This sim could cover every inch of every WWII battleground and every aircraft of the conflict, and yet people would still find something to gripe about. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
Well I see it like this, I look forward to these addons and can't fricking wait!!! but.... IT just realy annoying and kinda dissapointing cause they keep screwing the united states (guess where I live) ITs stupid that we have to hunt all over the internet for these places to get this stuff its a pain in the butt I'm the kinda guy who goes to the store picks up what I want and leave all done in 20 minutes but no theres gotta be credit card numbers a week for it to show up and all kinds of other junk its stupid o and @ crazy ivan for a previous post in this thread that above is at you to

Chuck_Older
10-07-2006, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Da_Godfatha:
This is just great... if you don't toe the party line, your insulted and told basicly to f*ck-off and STFU. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif I thought that crapola ended in 1945.

Sorry Bearcat if you do not understand about the car thingy..... nothin I can do about it.

Tsk, Tsk, Tsk...... just when I thought things on this forum was getting better, the psycho fanboi's and fangurl's unfoil their ugly faces....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Godfatha, you have in the past come out with your abrasive and backwards logic to proclaim everyone wrong

*You're* 100% wrong about your car "thingy". And if you can't understand why, I suggest you try to go out and buy things once in a while and then apply your logic to the world

You just told me that in effect, you don't think you should pay full price for next year's new car, because once upon a time you bought a car, and it had brakes, and a steering wheel, and a seat. And now you already have a steering wheel, brakes, and a seat, so you're getting ripped off when they charge you for those things on the new model you want to buy! Then you ignore that the new model car has EXTRA features that the old model never will, and you STILL call it a rip-off

There's no trade-in at the dealer for software, Godfatha. You do however have the option of selling your old software, or, as Ilya (Luthier) has mentioned, you can update with downloads as you've been doing! You don't have to buy the complete version in the first place!

So please, back off with the abrasive and backwards logic here. The bottom line is: if you add together the combined price of the complete version versus the cost to make that complete version out of downloads and add-ons, you personally must decide if that's a value and then you personally act on it

If it is a value, then you buy it. if it is not, you do not.

What you do with your money is your affair. Don't buy it. You're one of these people who trot out the 'fanboi' BS when somebody disagrees with you. You are not thinking straight, you're reasoning with your knee jerk reactions instead of your brain, and then to top it off, you end up with a sweeping comment on everyone within earshot. Sounds like a temper tantrum to me

Cool yourself off, and stop telling everyone what's good for them. Make up your own mind about what you buy and what you don't, and leave me right the hell out of it, thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

jasonbirder
10-07-2006, 03:22 PM
If what Luthier has posted on SimHQ is official...then thats great news all round...a Download for those that want it...and a DVD for those that don't!
Great news and for all my whining...i'll no doubt buy both http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Its amazing how easy it is to please people...if they actually KNOW whats happening...rather than leaving them to guess...

Doolittle81
10-07-2006, 03:55 PM
Can't read all this....NINE pages of posts in just 24 hours???!!!!!

F19_Orheim
10-07-2006, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Orheim and Billfish, I look forward to peering out the open canopy of my Ki27 and seeing you in the skys over Manchuria.


Yep mate, Khalkin Gol and the Ki27 is something I have longed for for a long time. I only hope that later I can do the same in the Fokkerhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

han freak solo
10-07-2006, 04:22 PM
No time to read all the posts.

When the official DVD comes out, I'm a buyin'.

Thanks in advance. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Philipscdrw
10-07-2006, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Orheim and Billfish, I look forward to peering out the open canopy of my Ki27 and seeing you in the skys over Manchuria.

I thought he said 'peeing'... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

There's one thing I really hope for - that the DVD will install over my existing installation without me needing to backup and save everything that's important. I'm guaranteed to forget something...

(I think people were annoyed that they'd paid for FB, AEP, PF and Pe-2, and will now spend ‚£n to get only the new stuff, while other people will spend ‚£n for the entire series, and not pay seperately for FB-Pe2 like they had... TBH, I'm glad that there'll be a really easy way for newcomers to get FB in all its glory! More new people on HL to try to shoot at me!)

Da_Godfatha
10-07-2006, 04:35 PM
Wow...not only am I stupid...but now backwards!

Well sh!tfar elmo......us country folks is too stoopid for them city folks here!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

I think maybe you should come down from your high-horse wannabe Chuck_Older. Temper tantrum? No, not really. Don't buy it? No, I won't. Buy the downloads? Yes, that is all I asked. But due to FUBIsofts total lack of communication here, no one really knows what is up. We must get a link to a out side forum for the right info.

When anybody does not grovel and kneel down to the powers to be here, they are jumped on and told:
1. STFU
2. Your stoopid, STFU
3. Your Banned, STFU
4. Quit throwing a temper tantrum, oh BTW....STFU

That is a Fanboi and Fangurl attitude. Do not dare to disagree.

@HuninMunin, you are right, it was a little harsh to use Nazi's and fanboi's/gurl's in the same sentence.

Now that there is going to be a download, I can enjoy the game. I just hope we get the online version before the DVD... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif.... then we will see who whines !!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Double_A2006
10-07-2006, 04:40 PM
To everyone who quoted me in the beginning. Bearcay, CrazyIvan, and the rest. To set it straight, I am campaining for the North American region to get it on shelves. If this does not happen then of course I will find a way to get the DVD because I think that DVD is a awesome idea. If I have to pay and have it shipped to me then so be it. But if you think of it this way, if on the shelf in North America, this will bring new life to the game because it will look like a new Sim on the market and others will by it also. This could add so many people to the game that are just not aware that it here. My 2 cents. So please, North America.

HuninMunin
10-07-2006, 04:54 PM
But don't expect me to post the exclusive BoB sreenshots or vids from the DVD then.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

heywooood
10-07-2006, 04:57 PM
good then its settled -

we can have it both ways and we can get it in every corner of the world...kinda kinky but it works.

lets put it to bed now.

Philipscdrw
10-07-2006, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Da_Godfatha:
When anybody does not grovel and kneel down to the powers to be here, they are jumped on and told:
1. STFU
2. Your stoopid, STFU
3. Your Banned, STFU
4. Quit throwing a temper tantrum, oh BTW....STFU

That is a Fanboi and Fangurl attitude. Do not dare to disagree.


So, you're saying that anyone who won't suck the toes of the admins here are told to STFU, but anyone who disagrees with you must STFU?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

By the way, you're talking a load of donkey faeces, STFU. J/K! Lol.

Rjel
10-07-2006, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by heywooood:
good then its settled -

we can have it both ways and we can get it in every corner of the world...kinda kinky but it works.

lets put it to bed now.

Probably the clearest and to the point post in the entire thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Doolittle81:
Can't read all this....NINE pages of posts in just 24 hours???!!!!!

That's because this is BIG news, I mean HUGE!!!


Originally Posted by GoGamer.com - Jason@SimHQ.com:

Hey guys,

If this is indeed a full-blown DVD with extras and whatnot, I can assure you that GoGamer will have it. No worries for US customers.

Jason

More good news!!!

It just keeps getting better and better!!!

LEBillfish
10-07-2006, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Da_Godfatha:
Wow...not only am I stupid...but now backwards! ........... Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,......................Now that there is going to be a download, I can enjoy the game. I just hope we get the online version before the DVD... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif.... then we will see who whines !!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Just read over at the Maddox Games communication link, they're using Boonty Box AND Starforce for the download version.....Give us an Oleg 2 weeks though and we'll have a fix/hack for you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Island Oleg's #1 Fangoil http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

p.s.....Don't make me post Chicken Little again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

LEBillfish
10-07-2006, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:Orheim and Billfish, I look forward to peering out the open canopy of my Ki27 and seeing you in the skys over Manchuria.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">*Banzai*!!!</span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

WTE_Moleboy
10-07-2006, 07:59 PM
For those wondering where Khalkin Ghol is
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/aceking47/upload.jpg
The battle took place roughly where the red arrow is.

Interminate
10-07-2006, 08:00 PM
If this dvd will patch my 4.o4m install to everything, I will buy it.

Akronnick
10-07-2006, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Interminate:
If this dvd will patch my 4.o4m install to everything, I will buy it.

That is exactly what it will do, sort of.

now this raises an interesting point, would it be possible for them to make the installer work so that it can tell if you already have the program, what version you have, and if you have say 4.04 or 4.05, it just adds the new stuff but doesn't overwrite the old, that way all your "stuff"(pilots, campaigns , etc.) stay there and are not overwritten?

WWMaxGunz
10-08-2006, 03:51 PM
Let's see now if I got this right:

A) Having up to FB 4.05 paid for and working on 4.04 exe for already months now and then paying for dvd.

B) Not having anything past IL2 1.2 but think of all the money you save?

One from column A please, and I wonder when the dvd might be? Something about market forces?
Those're real.

What does anyone think that 450 page book in the extras is worth? Just offhand?

BigC208
10-08-2006, 08:14 PM
This is interesting. Some folks were upset about having to buy the DVD again to get the latest addons. Now they found out that they can also download the latest addons for the same price and are very happy. Is it me or do more people think that anyone downloading these last addons, instead of getting the whole DVD set for the same price, has a screw loose? Now I could see the logic if the price for the download was less or they would get it a few months earlier. I think it's a great deal and a wish come true. Did not buy PE2 and was not planning on downloading 46 and Manchuria.
Only way they where going to get my money was to bring it all out on disk, DVD or CD. Oh and if anyone at 1C or ubisoft is reading this, I would pay good money for a Fokker D XXI.

tigertalon
10-08-2006, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by BigC208:
Is it me or do more people think that anyone downloading these last addons, instead of getting the whole DVD set for the same price, has a screw loose?

Ever heard of StarForce? I am very VERY affraid... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

jasonbirder
10-09-2006, 02:10 AM
Is it me or do more people think that anyone downloading these last addons, instead of getting the whole DVD set for the same price, has a screw loose?

I already have the complete collection on DVD and Pe2 on CD (Its not tough to back up a copy is it...) So i's MUCH rather just downlaod the two new add ons as soon as they come out (no need to find a store which stocks them or wait for the UPS man to come...) and patch up my existing installation (no need to do a fresh install or mess about with missions, config.ini, campaigns or skins) and I can then burn the new add on onto CD so I have a hard copy for re-installing...

Does that really qualify me for having a SCREW LOOSE ?

joeap
10-09-2006, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by tigertalon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigC208:
Is it me or do more people think that anyone downloading these last addons, instead of getting the whole DVD set for the same price, has a screw loose?

Ever heard of StarForce? I am very VERY affraid... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

UBI have dropped starforce months ago, it was announced on their site. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Chuck_Older
10-09-2006, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by Da_Godfatha:
Wow...not only am I stupid...but now backwards!

Well sh!tfar elmo......us country folks is too stoopid for them city folks here!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

I think maybe you should come down from your high-horse wannabe Chuck_Older. Temper tantrum? No, not really. Don't buy it? No, I won't. Buy the downloads? Yes, that is all I asked. But due to FUBIsofts total lack of communication here, no one really knows what is up. We must get a link to a out side forum for the right info.

When anybody does not grovel and kneel down to the powers to be here, they are jumped on and told:
1. STFU
2. Your stoopid, STFU
3. Your Banned, STFU
4. Quit throwing a temper tantrum, oh BTW....STFU

That is a Fanboi and Fangurl attitude. Do not dare to disagree.

@HuninMunin, you are right, it was a little harsh to use Nazi's and fanboi's/gurl's in the same sentence.

Now that there is going to be a download, I can enjoy the game. I just hope we get the online version before the DVD... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif.... then we will see who whines !!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

What's a high-horse wannabe? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

"Don't dare to disagree"! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif at you. You go on about how it's so unfair that people tell you to do things, and then turn around and tell people what to do! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I also see that you agree with me about buying what you want! Good for you! We might make a grown-up out of you yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-09-2006, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by HuninMunin:
...No seriously, I think thats the smartest move Ubi can make.
That way, we wont have the online download ****, and the package offers enough extra stuff for the ones not interested in 46 or Manchuria to buy it, resulting that the community wont be torn apart and the crowd that stopped at 4.04 will be with us again.




This wise post from page 1 of this thread sums it up for me.

I'll get it...be sure.


TB

F19_Orheim
10-09-2006, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by BigC208:
Is it me or do more people think that anyone downloading these last addons, instead of getting the whole DVD set for the same price, has a screw loose?

LOL.. yes.. interesting isn't it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

HuninMunin
10-09-2006, 06:48 AM
I found this (http://www.pcgames.de/?article_id=512243)
just a minute ago; its the page of Germanys biggest gaming magazine.
It's almost the exact text of the first webside linked on page one without new infos; but I guess Ubi has made it official finaly then.
So for those that remained sceptical even after Luthiers word about it; I guess its time to cheer and chill.

Wait.....I can hardly wait myself...forgett the chilling part.

Antoninus
10-09-2006, 08:04 AM
The anouncement is now on the german pacific fighters frontpage too.

http://www.pacific-fighters.com/de/home.php

LEBillfish
10-09-2006, 08:27 AM
*shuffles out in the ratty 2x too big terrycloth robe and fluffy slippers, hair in beer can sized curlers, teeth nor glass eye in, face cream from last night having run down to her neck......

Sips coffee, reads thread, scratches left armpit, yawns, scratches rump, and shuffles away*

Yep, always exciting here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

DuxCorvan
10-09-2006, 09:07 AM
Wow, Boonty on DVD! Now we can install and reinstall this useful tool on our PCs at will! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Breeze147
10-09-2006, 09:15 AM
Sooooo, what happened to Manchuria?

LEBillfish
10-09-2006, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Wow, Boonty on DVD! Now we can install and reinstall this useful tool on our PCs at will! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

hehe....though I have to agree with you there Dux, it one of my favorite utility programs like /format C: or /SledgeHammer PC P, I think they're only using it on the downloaded versions along with Starforce http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

So sadly only Da_Godfatha & GonzoX will be able to take advantage of their wonderful properties.

LEBillfish
10-09-2006, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by Breeze147:
Sooooo, what happened to Manchuria?

Well, besides still being where it always was, it landlocked so difficult for it to drift away, it's also part of the new add-on which includes all the other great stuff.

tigertalon
10-09-2006, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by joeap:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tigertalon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigC208:
Is it me or do more people think that anyone downloading these last addons, instead of getting the whole DVD set for the same price, has a screw loose?

Ever heard of StarForce? I am very VERY affraid... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

UBI have dropped starforce months ago, it was announced on their site. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you for claring this up! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Fox_3
10-09-2006, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigC208:
Is it me or do more people think that anyone downloading these last addons, instead of getting the whole DVD set for the same price, has a screw loose?

LOL.. yes.. interesting isn't it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not everyone has a DVD drive. Or can afford to buy one.

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-09-2006, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Fox_3:

Not everyone has a DVD drive. Or can afford to buy one.



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I guess you can't please all the people all the time...

foxyboy1964
10-09-2006, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Wow, Boonty on DVD! Now we can install and reinstall this useful tool on our PCs at will! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

hehe....though I have to agree with you there Dux, it one of my favorite utility programs like /format C: or /SledgeHammer PC P, I think they're only using it on the downloaded versions along with Starforce http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

So sadly only Da_Godfatha & GonzoX will be able to take advantage of their wonderful properties. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

can either of you provide a link to this. I havent saw any ref. to Boonty or Starforce. cheers

thefruitbat
10-09-2006, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Breeze147:
Sooooo, what happened to Manchuria?

Well, besides still being where it always was, it landlocked so difficult for it to drift away, it's also part of the new add-on which includes all the other great stuff. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just curious, the Manchuria that I know, borders the Yellow sea. Although, i will conceed that despite this, it is still there, and hasnt drifted off.

fruitbat

Chuck_Older
10-09-2006, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Fox_3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigC208:
Is it me or do more people think that anyone downloading these last addons, instead of getting the whole DVD set for the same price, has a screw loose?

LOL.. yes.. interesting isn't it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not everyone has a DVD drive. Or can afford to buy one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In this case, you download the addons in the manner of Pe-2

Antoninus
10-09-2006, 11:39 AM
A cheap DVD drive costs around 15-20 ‚"ö¨, less than a game.

DuxCorvan
10-09-2006, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by tigertalon:
Thank you for claring this up! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Don't celebrate yet. We may even miss Starforce. They always can find something worse -and generally they do. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Originally posted by foxyboy1964:
can either of you provide a link to this. I havent saw any ref. to Boonty or Starforce. cheers
link (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/%7Eandrew/funny/noob.jpg)

foxyboy1964
10-09-2006, 12:05 PM
so can I take it that you and LEBillfish are just BS'ing about Boonty and Starforce?

LEBillfish
10-09-2006, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by foxyboy1964:
so can I take it that you and LEBillfish are just BS'ing about Boonty and Starforce?

Wha? me? wittle ol' me pull your leg?....naw, never.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif .....HOWEVER! I hear with each DVD purchase you also get 10 achres of swampland or a share in the Brooklyn bridge!

Now if that doesn't make you want it, i just don't know what will even if it doesn't have the fine Starforce & Boonty utility.

foxyboy1964
10-09-2006, 12:37 PM
Wow! Very informative LEBillfish, thanks very much http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fox_3
10-09-2006, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fox_3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigC208:
Is it me or do more people think that anyone downloading these last addons, instead of getting the whole DVD set for the same price, has a screw loose?

LOL.. yes.. interesting isn't it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not everyone has a DVD drive. Or can afford to buy one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In this case, you download the addons in the manner of Pe-2 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gifI know that. I was merely answering the previous snobbish posts.

F19_Orheim
10-09-2006, 01:00 PM
not snobbish. I just don't udnerstand.

DVD is cheap these days.... half the price of a game

joeap
10-09-2006, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by tigertalon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by joeap:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tigertalon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigC208:
Is it me or do more people think that anyone downloading these last addons, instead of getting the whole DVD set for the same price, has a screw loose?

Ever heard of StarForce? I am very VERY affraid... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

UBI have dropped starforce months ago, it was announced on their site. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you for claring this up! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No problem, sorry about the rollies I thought you were kidding. There was a huge noise about SF and lots of folks were happy it was dropped by UBI, not so much when UBI didn't release a patch to remove it from Silent Hunter for example. I suppose the downloads will have Boony. Oh and for SHIII you can find an unoffi-*censored* http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Mr.-Electric
10-09-2006, 09:07 PM
WOW! I just got done reading most of you peoples replys and heres waht i have to say.. Okay when i bout the IL-2 the first ever one i bout it for 50$ and then AEP for i think 20$ then pacific fighters for like 20$ and Pe-2 for 18$, and if this DVD is coming out for around 30 to 40$ dallors and it comes with EVERYTHING plus more...THEN WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL!! I dont want to download anything because what happens if your computer gets wiped out. OH no Pe-2 just got earsed.. And one more thing we dont know if its going to be out for the U.S or not cant you guys just wait and see. I also would like to buy another set of IL-2 so i dont have to worry much about losing it (hopfully i dont).

Rjel
10-09-2006, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Mr.-Electric:
WOW! I just got done reading most of you peoples replys and heres waht i have to say.. Okay when i bout the IL-2 the first ever one i bout it for 50$ and then AEP for i think 20$ then pacific fighters for like 20$ and Pe-2 for 18$, and if this DVD is coming out for around 30 to 40$ dallors and it comes with EVERYTHING plus more...THEN WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL!! I dont want to download anything because what happens if your computer gets wiped out. OH no Pe-2 just got earsed.. And one more thing we dont know if its going to be out for the U.S or not cant you guys just wait and see. I also would like to buy another set of IL-2 so i dont have to worry much about losing it (hopfully i dont).

Well hell's bells. You convinced me. Sign me up. For 40 dallors I'll bout it again.

Flying_Nutcase
10-10-2006, 02:27 AM
I won't have to think too hard for Xmas presents this year. What better gift to a mate than an IL2 anthology. Thx Ubi, you've come up smelling of roses. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

WOODY01
10-10-2006, 02:36 AM
Fantastic news! I just hope they ship it all the way down to New Zealand. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

GonFlying
10-10-2006, 03:15 AM
Bloody brilliant. As far as I'm concerned I'm really turneed on by the new maps - Burma, Desert and Norway, great for RAF missions methinks!
That 46 stuff looks pretty sexy too.

commie1
10-12-2006, 12:47 PM
Oh, my poor wallet.

They're passing the hat round again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve.gorman/moloko.jpg (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/)

What's it going to be then, eh?