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Hardstyles
02-10-2009, 04:32 AM
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9333/myimageha1.png

Anybody know how it works, pretty cool tech; almost as neat as the gps he walks around with :P who knew we would forget about the technology of gps then rediscover it in the 20th century?

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9333/myimageha1.png

KZarr
02-10-2009, 06:28 AM
what's with all the companion cubes?

stealthero
02-10-2009, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Hardstyles:
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9333/myimageha1.png

Anybody know how it works, pretty cool tech; almost as neat as the gps he walks around with :P who knew we would forget about the technology of gps then rediscover it in the 20th century?

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9333/myimageha1.png

WTF ROFL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

KZarr
02-11-2009, 04:02 AM
You could argue that the "GPS" is something Desmond brought back with him from the 20th century

caswallawn_2k7
02-11-2009, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by KZarr:
You could argue that the "GPS" is something Desmond brought back with him from the 20th century
desmond never went back in time they are just showing his ancestors memories through a computer so the GPS was probly part of the computer program to help direct him with his memories.

Monkey_9
02-11-2009, 02:53 PM
Not only him...It helps me a lot also, to find
about 'everyway' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

obliviondoll
02-11-2009, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Hardstyles:
The blade works how?

Pointy end goes in other guy.

Anruaee
05-04-2009, 07:05 PM
He's inside an Animus. It's a machine to go into genetic memory and go to the memory of his ancestor, Altair. Since it's in 2012, the machine holds GPS system and basically, they just made up a really good excuse about all the loading screens, GPS system, etc, but I'm quite concerned that Desmond is using video game controllers in there because in the manual a note from Vidic says that they used video game controllers in the Animus... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

UchihaKarasu
05-04-2009, 07:21 PM
I was actually wondering how the blade works.
I have a friend who has a friend (XD) who is a genius, he actually used kitchen knives and some other materials to created a spring loaded blade that he can snap out and snap in.
I pretty good with making things like that but I just need to know how.

Xanatos2007
05-04-2009, 08:32 PM
From what I know, it's a three-part blade that is activated by a ring on Altair's finger. The actual mechanism is some kind of gearlock system.

Mine's just going to have a simple gravity knife design... once I get a workshop/crafting table and all the parts I need. I have the blade - and a damn fine one at that - I just need the correct parts to actually make the thing.

UchihaKarasu
05-04-2009, 09:46 PM
I just found this video about making the blade and it's the best one I have come across so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...feature=channel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxP50dOoVrg&feature=channel_page)

Outlaw-BHA
05-04-2009, 10:47 PM
well the blades of Altair and Ezio are very different, Altair's blade seemed to work by using gravity to pull the blade out when you press a relief button, and then used spring tension to pull itself back in.... Ezio's on the other hand seems to have some sort of rotary spring/dail near the middle of his forearm, im not sure if it is a spring/mechanism or just an ornament

UchihaKarasu
05-04-2009, 11:02 PM
Ezio's blade is, somewhat spring loaded
Here's some links for pictures of the two blades:

http://s208.photobucket.com/al...view&current=aw1.jpg (http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb133/UchihaKarasu/?action=view&current=aw1.jpg)

http://s208.photobucket.com/al...nt=blade_system2.jpg (http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb133/UchihaKarasu/?action=view&current=blade_system2.jpg)

http://s208.photobucket.com/al...ent=blade_system.jpg (http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb133/UchihaKarasu/?action=view&current=blade_system.jpg)

http://s208.photobucket.com/al...iew&current=1112.jpg (http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb133/UchihaKarasu/?action=view&current=1112.jpg)

Now here's some pictures for the inner workings of Ezio's blade:

http://s208.photobucket.com/al...Deploy-NoRachet8.jpg (http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb133/UchihaKarasu/?action=view&current=AC2CamAction-ManualDeploy-NoRachet8.jpg)

(sorry but the picture wont show up)

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb133/UchihaKarasu/AC2CamAction-ManualDeploy-NoRachet8.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb133/UchihaKarasu/AC2CamAction-ManualDeploy800x400.jpg

Sorry if that was ridiculously long.

Outlaw-BHA
05-04-2009, 11:17 PM
thats a pretty cool schematic of how the blade works but if you look closely to the picture that u linked first, the blade isnt activated by a ring, but by a sliide that is pushed in by the upper arm when the arm is bent, which makes more sense because it would take a physical action to tension a spring for retracting the blade, and the retracting is probably done by some torque of the wrist

Xanatos2007
05-05-2009, 05:16 PM
According to a teaser for AC1, the blade is activated by a button as shown above, but the actual mechanism consists of a gearlock system. I saw a pic on the internet that shows a three-part blade activated by a ring on Altair's finger (which is why he can open it at will with a 'flick of the wrist').

UchihaKarasu
05-05-2009, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
According to a teaser for AC1, the blade is activated by a button as shown above, but the actual mechanism consists of a gearlock system. I saw a pic on the internet that shows a three-part blade activated by a ring on Altair's finger (which is why he can open it at will with a 'flick of the wrist').

The pictures above show Ezio's blade, which according to the picture, activates with a clip

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb133/UchihaKarasu/aw1.jpg

Drakonous505
05-05-2009, 07:10 PM
UchihaKarasu great pitures on the mechinisims. From that last picture I believe Ezio's Clip can be removed which allows for him to not accidentally activate it. Since this past Saturday I've been trying to come up with a mechanism that works for an Hidden Blade. It's good to know how these work. Thanks for the pics again.

UchihaKarasu
05-05-2009, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Drakonous505:
UchihaKarasu great pitures on the mechinisims. From that last picture I believe Ezio's Clip can be removed which allows for him to not accidentally activate it. Since this past Saturday I've been trying to come up with a mechanism that works for an Hidden Blade. It's good to know how these work. Thanks for the pics again.

Thank you.
But the clip isn't removed to activate the blade, it is pushed in, which leads me to wonder how the blade is retracted.
Altair's blade seemed more practical.

Outlaw-BHA
05-05-2009, 07:32 PM
maybe pushing in the clip tensions a spring, and 'a flick of the wrist' pulls the clip off of a hook that holds the blade out, and the spring pulls the blade in

Drakonous505
05-05-2009, 07:45 PM
No, I meant that for safety it can be removed. I know it's pushed in lol

UchihaKarasu
05-05-2009, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Drakonous505:
No, I meant that for safety it can be removed. I know it's pushed in lol

Oh, XD
lol

Drakonous505
05-05-2009, 08:15 PM
I think that a simple mechinism works best, instead of high tech ones like Ezio's, even if though looks bad ***... But then again the Renassance were all about new ideas and chage... Simplicity was never the mind set in those times... Though I wonder if we'll find out more on how a Hidden Blade works in AC2 from Da Vinci?

P.s. look at the link below if you want to see pictures of my prototype Hidden Blade.

OniLinkSword
05-05-2009, 10:23 PM
The mechanism isn't that complicated. The main problem is the weight compared to the springs.

Check out this forum, they make this kind of stuff all the time.
http://sinza.forumotion.com/

UchihaKarasu
05-06-2009, 07:16 AM
^ Yeah I got some information from than link.

the maxz
05-06-2009, 11:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...gqdQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc_xGgggqdQ&feature=related)

this one is also pretty nice

vanbuskirks
05-07-2009, 03:55 PM
All of those theories on how the blade works seem great, and from all media I would agree, but I think Ubi did not want to go all the way with the realism thing because, unless I misunderstood how it works, hte blade would activate multiple times while Altair / Ezio are free-running. I'm sure wrists are flicked and arms are bent multiple times in a quick escape. Does anybody have theories on how to combat this?

UchihaKarasu
05-07-2009, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by vanbuskirks:
All of those theories on how the blade works seem great, and from all media I would agree, but I think Ubi did not want to go all the way with the realism thing because, unless I misunderstood how it works, hte blade would activate multiple times while Altair / Ezio are free-running. I'm sure wrists are flicked and arms are bent multiple times in a quick escape. Does anybody have theories on how to combat this?


Well,honestly, from what I have seen of Ezio's blade, it seems less practical than Altair's.
If you look at the picture below, I have circled the activation ring.
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb133/UchihaKarasu/blade_system2-1.jpg

While it is not displayed in the picture, i believe the pinky finger is slipped into the ring and when the one's hand opens up, a string is pulled that activates the hidden blade and locks it into place. When the ring is removed, the blade slides back in.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb133/UchihaKarasu/blade_system-1.jpg

vanbuskirks
05-07-2009, 11:47 PM
Thanks for the first picture. I always just assumed his pinky finger always had the ring on it, but I supposed only slipping his pinky into the ring to activate it makes a lot of sense. I agree with you that Ezio's blade(s) seem highly impractical now.

Outlaw-BHA
05-08-2009, 08:09 PM
well in a way Ezio's blade is MORE practical as it is less obvious to the untrained eye, Altairs blade was built into a huge gauntlet that was armor-plated, while Ezio's is smaller and looks more like a decorative cuff

UchihaKarasu
06-01-2009, 04:26 PM
...Damn, after seeing the E3 Trailer...looks like I'm gonna have to install a gun into a replication of Ezio's blade XD XD

Also, it seems the clip is not used to activate the blade, but to switch the settings from gun to blade.

Sorry to bring an old post back up.

Xanatos2007
06-01-2009, 08:15 PM
Who cares, I'd love to see some newbs shoot themselves with home-made hidden gunblades.

"He's going to hurt himself, and when he does I won't help him."

UchihaKarasu
06-01-2009, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Who cares, I'd love to see some newbs shoot themselves with home-made hidden gunblades.

"He's going to hurt himself, and when he does I won't help him."


Oh god, it's FF's gun blades all over again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

OniLinkSword
06-02-2009, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by Outlaw-BHA:
well in a way Ezio's blade is MORE practical as it is less obvious to the untrained eye, Altairs blade was built into a huge gauntlet that was armor-plated, while Ezio's is smaller and looks more like a decorative cuff Yeah, but without support the knife would fail and you would be dead. :/

UchihaKarasu
06-03-2009, 08:41 PM
hmm, well we know about the gun but...
How does Ezio's blade work?
After watching the trailer (for the thousandth time, lol) I realized he just kind of...flicks his wrist. At first I thought maybe the was activated by a ring too (he's wearing one on his wedding finger), like Altair's, but I didn't see anything that indicated such.
Damn, Ubisoft keeps complicating it XD XD

MustaviSadi
12-18-2015, 03:35 PM
The hidden blade is said to activate at the slightest flick of a wrist according to Edward Kenway in the book, which is more like the in-game hidden blade, but it would accidentally activate the blade and kill someone or the user themselves.

During Altair's time, the hidden blade required the sacrifice of the ring finger and required the jerking of the entire arm to deploy and retract. The jerking had to be with a lot of force and rapidness, which can result in dislocation of the elbow or shoulder joint.

Therefore, according to Altair and concept arts, the hidden blade works with a ring mechanism to deploy and retract the blade a lot faster. This also requires the flick of a wrist to achieve, but with a faster and more aggressive flick. A ring is tied to a string which is then attached to the hidden blade's wheel mechanism used now. The mechanism itself can defy gravity when deploying or retracting the blade.
The thread is practically long, but not that long, so it needs to be grabbed and then the flick can be applied.

The ring and thread can also be hidden under gloves to give the blade a mysterious look, in the case of Altair. Also, any ring will work.

P.S. It is better to put the ring on the ring finger instead of the pinky finger.

Civona
12-18-2015, 06:47 PM
it would be nice if there was an order of assassins who created an actual safely-functioning hidden blade that had to be activated and deactivated very deliberately. would make for a more satisfying feel in-game, since it's not just something that appears contextually.

cawatrooper9
12-18-2015, 07:44 PM
The hidden blade is said to activate at the slightes flick of a wrist according to Edward Kenway in the book, which is more like the in-game hidden blade, but it would accidentally activate the blade and kill someone or the user themselves.



I got a hidden blade for my Halloween costume this year. It was actually activated by a button, but I had the button section under my coat's sleeve, so it kept on accidentally being pressed. I stabbed myself with my (luckily rubber, but still sharp) blade so many times that I got a bruise, and had to put on a glove on my blade hand.

MustaviSadi
12-30-2015, 04:08 PM
The button is highly unrealistic. The closest mechanism of the hidden blade that can go as close to the flick of the wrist hidden blade is the ring mechanism.