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stalkervision
08-12-2007, 01:05 PM
http://www.slate.com/id/2171993/nav/ais/


Interesting article.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

stalkervision
08-12-2007, 01:05 PM
http://www.slate.com/id/2171993/nav/ais/


Interesting article.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

leitmotiv
08-12-2007, 02:15 PM
Good stuff. Of course, there is also the matter of professional gamers who play in tournaments where cheating involves real money.

MEGILE
08-12-2007, 02:18 PM
Cheating in games should be a capital offence.

leitmotiv
08-12-2007, 02:21 PM
auto-de-fe

MEGILE
08-12-2007, 02:27 PM
I have no idea what that means.

But I'm sure Rose Mcgowan is hot.

MEGILE
08-12-2007, 02:27 PM
wikipedia is my friend http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

DuxCorvan
08-12-2007, 02:31 PM
Nobody expects an Auto de Fe!

http://www.qrz.com/uploads/post-7-71517-Monty_Python_Spanish_Inquisition.jpg

MEGILE
08-12-2007, 02:33 PM
I forgot Dux is our Resident sombrero wearer.

Raaaid too, but his sombrero is tin foil lined.

leitmotiv
08-12-2007, 02:46 PM
Nicole suggests: hang, draw and quarter

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060617071954AA3YdMZ

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/G6AS/NICOLEKIDMAN.jpg

SeaFireLIV
08-12-2007, 02:49 PM
Some say cheating is an alternative way of having fun.

I say it`s a great way to cheat your self.

DuxCorvan
08-12-2007, 02:56 PM
Disembowelment is boring. I vote for 'ling chi', which also has a long and respectable tradition.

stalkervision
08-12-2007, 02:57 PM
I believe that anyone who cheats on Il-2 multiplayer should have their copy of the game files replaced with a "free" copy of "frag dolls" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I_KG100_Prien
08-12-2007, 03:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Some say cheating is an alternative way of having fun.

I say it`s a great way to cheat your self. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't like cheaters.. In any game be it programmed or real. Some people just don't want to put in any effort to get good at something.

A few years back I had a room mate who liked to cheat.. We had our computers set up in the same room, and due to the layout he could just turn his head SLIGHTLY and see my screen. My wife pointed out constantly that he looked at my screen when we'd be playing games against each other.. Didn't matter if it was a FPS or IL2.. He of course denied it.

It became obvious however when I moved my desk in such a way that he could no longer look at my screen.. Suddenly he no longer was able to evade me when we played IL2... I could actually bounce him because he wasn't watching my every move.

FPS's became the same story.. 1 on 1 our scores wouldn't even be close.. 30 kills for me and 1 for him. He had become so reliant on cheating that he couldn't function without it. He stopped playing games with me because he got tired of losing.. I finally said to him.. "Thats what you get for being a cheater..."

Bearcat99
08-12-2007, 03:27 PM
An interesting article to be sure, but the thing that sets this sim and the recent events surrounding the subject matter apart are 1. There were no Easter Eggs.. No built in programmed cheats. The code was locked specifically to prevent such hacking, so the people who did this knew at the outset that not only what they were doing was wrong but that it could potentially ruin online play in the sim. They just didn't care. and 2. Because of the very nature of this sim, just knowledge of a few keystrokes alone can't make you "better" at it. You MUST practice and develop the skills necessary to be successful at it. Nor can hardware alone can make you a better pilot. Take a bad pilot with TIR, a HOTAS and all the other bells and whistles, including a blazing rig and put him up against an experienced pilot with just a joystick and a rig capable of running the sim with playable frame rates at the standard resolution and that guy with the bells and whistles will get spanked every time, until of course the guy with the bells and whistles develops the skills to win. That sets this sim and the cheating matter apart from other venues. Gaming in general is competitive but flight sims are IMO more competitive because of the fact that there is so much that you have to master. It isn't like in many sports games where you just have to have the right combo of keystrokes.... it is an almost real world environment and this sim in particular because it was locked was even more so... but the rootypoots and scrubs have found a way to have props with no balls, kills with no skills and fire with no spark. Hopefully O & 1C will be able to at least make it so that those who still want to fly with honor and skill win or loose will have a way to do so.. and the loosers who have no honor can go and do their thing in their own servers. Just like at cards or anything else.. cheaters are thieves. Period.

leitmotiv
08-12-2007, 03:28 PM
ling chi???

MEGILE
08-12-2007, 03:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
ling chi??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wikipedia wants to be your friend.

Waldo.Pepper
08-12-2007, 03:47 PM
Well I didn't learn as much about the culture of cheating as I did torture so far. I have learned almost as much about torture in this thread as I did at Amnesty International meetings.

leitmotiv
08-12-2007, 05:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
ling chi??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wikipedia wants to be your friend. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Missed this the first time I looked and I ended up finding loads of information on Chinese mushrooms (!). Now I see where "death by a thousand cuts" derives!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_a_thousand_cuts

Rose recommends the same method as applied to Edward II be applied to cheaters.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/G6AS/RoseMcGowan.jpg

jimDG
08-12-2007, 05:12 PM
'Ling chi' is boring. I vote for 'lyn ching', which also has a long and respectable tradition.

DuxCorvan
08-12-2007, 05:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Rose recommends the same method as applied to Edward II be applied to cheaters. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ouch! But, if done properly, a good method to cure hemorrhoids.

leitmotiv
08-12-2007, 05:34 PM
I went to a Chinese herbalist for a bad case of sinus congestion. He cheerfully said he would cure the difficulty in no time at all. He had me lie down on my back, and put my head back while extended over the table. Then he proceeded to pour a liquid into each nostril.

Let's put it this way, if I had been asked by an inquisitor if I was personally responsible for every war in human history, I would have readily replied YES! YES! What he used was a dilution of hydrochloric acid. My nose was running for 24 hours. My sinuses were post-nuclear for a week. After all this, it did not cure the bad case of sinus congestion.

I suggest all cheaters be forced to undergo thrice daily flexible sigmoidoscopies for six months.

Daiichidoku
08-12-2007, 05:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
ling chi??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wikipedia wants to be your friend. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

im too lazy to google

is ling chi not that guy who wants us to buy his replica chinese porcelean?

leitmotiv
08-12-2007, 05:55 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_a_thousand_cuts

Waldo.Pepper
08-12-2007, 06:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">a dilution of hydrochloric acid </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good lord! You are a brave man. I get sinusitis almost yearly ... and only the A-bomb of antibiotics clears it up. (Cipro or Biaxin)

leitmotiv
08-12-2007, 06:46 PM
I feel your pain, literally, WP. It is my great good fortune to currently live in the allergy capital of the universe, California's San Joaquin Valley. I've tried everything from shots to homeopathy to acupuncture, antibiotics, and you name it. Varying degrees of failure is all. What worked best is the most toxic: cortisone. Man, cortisone is great, but, alas, it makes you crazy (cortisone=steroids---all they say about steroids is true), and mucks up your immune system. This year the wind blew for months---my brain was pulverized along with my sinuses. Give homeopathy a try, sometimes it works wonders. Took care of my allergies in the more clement UK. Cheers, Sinus Combat Casualty

P.S. Brave? If I had known what he was going to put in my sinuses, I would have been out the door in a flash. He didn't tell me until after he used the solution.

I_KG100_Prien
08-12-2007, 07:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
I feel your pain, literally, WP. It is my great good fortune to currently live in the allergy capital of the universe, California's San Joaquin Valley. I've tried everything from shots to homeopathy to acupuncture, antibiotics, and you name it. Varying degrees of failure is all. What worked best is the most toxic: cortisone. Man, cortisone is great, but, alas, it makes you crazy (cortisone=steroids---all they say about steroids is true), and mucks up your immune system. This year the wind blew for months---my brain was pulverized along with my sinuses. Give homeopathy a try, sometimes it works wonders. Took care of my allergies in the more clement UK. Cheers, Sinus Combat Casualty

P.S. Brave? If I had known what he was going to put in my sinuses, I would have been out the door in a flash. He didn't tell me until after he used the solution. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

x2 on the the San Juaquin County allergies being brutal. Not just SJ county though.. Stanislaus County, and a lot of the Central Valley parts of CA are terrible for it. All that dry grass, and of course the pollen/dust stirred up by the agriculture.

I'll never forget what it was like driving Almond Sweepers when I was living in Turlock.. being surrounded by dust for 12 hours a day made my sinus cavities beg for mercy.

Hawgdog
08-12-2007, 07:38 PM
I think I'd be cheating if I didn't suggest the use of a good antibacterial agent.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/HawgDog/nasty.jpg

leitmotiv
08-12-2007, 07:57 PM
Many thanks, HawgDog, may a hemorrhoidal yak back into your living room, as Johnny Carson used to say!

You have my sympathies, Prien. The Valleys sucks completely.

stalkervision
08-12-2007, 08:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
I went to a Chinese herbalist for a bad case of sinus congestion. He cheerfully said he would cure the difficulty in no time at all. He had me lie down on my back, and put my head back while extended over the table. Then he proceeded to pour a liquid into each nostril.

Let's put it this way, if I had been asked by an inquisitor if I was personally responsible for every war in human history, I would have readily replied YES! YES! What he used was a dilution of hydrochloric acid. My nose was running for 24 hours. My sinuses were post-nuclear for a week. After all this, it did not cure the bad case of sinus congestion.

I suggest all cheaters be forced to undergo thrice daily flexible sigmoidoscopies for six months. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I personally have found over the years chewing on very hot peppers does the trick for me. I should have patent the remedy because someone has a nasel spray made out of the same darn thing now! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

leitmotiv
08-12-2007, 08:39 PM
You're kidding, what's the name of the stuff?

NeuralTech
08-13-2007, 07:25 AM
Interesting read