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EnigmaCode234
12-03-2005, 08:22 PM
Hello http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I'm an old EAW, and MCFS flyer.

Just loaded up PF, and already notice quite
a difference in the aircraft orientation.
(Much different than MCFS)

Can you guys give me the web address to join in PF http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Thanx

han freak solo
12-03-2005, 08:34 PM
Just stopped in to say welcome to "the real deal".

I'm on offliner, so I'll let an online jockey come along and give you the info.

I believe you will need to get IL2:Forgotten Battles with the Ace Expansion Pack merged with Pacific Fighters all patched up to version 4.02 to play on most servers, though.

Bearcat99
12-03-2005, 09:38 PM
Welcome aboard. Hit the Sturmovik Essentials link in my sig. Bookmark that link... go to the Hyperlobby link and download the client. Itis where most of us go to fly online. I highly recomend that you get hold of Forgotten battles and The Aces Expansion Pack. In the Essentials thread there is a link at the top of it called "Why run..... as merged...." Hit that link and read it. You wont be sorry. If you are running PF as a stand alone then you are missing out on most of what the series has to offer, although it can be run as a standalon. Also note in the Essentials thread a link to a site called Airwarfare.com. That site is the most all inclusive flight sim site around... bar none. Explore it thoroughly and often. Come here often as well.

Troll2k
12-03-2005, 11:43 PM
There is a PF standalone room available at HyperLobby.

However 95% of the online players used the merged install(FB+AEP+PF)and play in the Forgotten Battles room.

You can have multiple installs so you can play PF in the standalone room(if anyone is there) until you get the other games and merge.

EnigmaCode234
12-04-2005, 10:59 AM
Hey thanx for ALL your replies! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Well as I just got started, I initially loaded PC as a 'stand alone program' - wonder if I can go back to the install disc, and add the integration as an option?

Can you guys tell me what to do?

And do any of you veteran flyers agree that the manipulation of the aircraft (the orientation), here on PC is different than the traditional manipulation of the old EAW, MCFS WWII European Series, and MCFS 2 WWII Pacific Thaetre?

Here on PC, as you fly, (if you're not the cockpit view), the entire aircraft will turn sidways as you're directing the aircraft to where you want to go. Know what I mean?

Unless I'm missing something, that takes getting used to!

Also can you guys show me where I can add an avatar? I couldn't find that option anywhere in my profile edit functions.

Thanx again!
Mike

major_setback
12-04-2005, 11:00 AM
Use Hyperlobby for online play, most people do!

http://hyperfighter.sk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1#16

You need to install the Hyperlobby client first though, it's here:

ftp://www.txsquadron.com/HLClient/hlpro3895.zip

or here:



http://hyperfighter.sk/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=2

JG52Uther
12-04-2005, 12:55 PM
Welcome to the forums!
For avatar (or any changes to your profile:
When you are logged in:Top left corner,'GO' button
My Space->
Profile->
->View/Edit complete profile
scroll down to see all the options.
As to how your plane is flying,you will probably have to set your joystick up a bit.Look aroud at the various threads.

Bearcat99
12-04-2005, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by ENIGMACODE:
Hey thanx for ALL your replies! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Well as I just got started, I initially loaded PC as a 'stand alone program' - wonder if I can go back to the install disc, and add the integration as an option?

Can you guys tell me what to do?

And do any of you veteran flyers agree that the manipulation of the aircraft (the orientation), here on PC is different than the traditional manipulation of the old EAW, MCFS WWII European Series, and MCFS 2 WWII Pacific Thaetre?

Here on PC, as you fly, (if you're not the cockpit view), the entire aircraft will turn sidways as you're directing the aircraft to where you want to go. Know what I mean?

Unless I'm missing something, that takes getting used to!

Also can you guys show me where I can add an avatar? I couldn't find that option anywhere in my profile edit functions.

Thanx again!
Mike



Not sure what you mean about the f;ight charactersitics but ypu might want to adjust your rudder trim.

Check out this FAQ (http://www.airwarfare.com/sturmovik_101/faq_index.htm).

jds1978
12-04-2005, 02:18 PM
Howdy and welcome to the forum, EnigmaCode!

han freak solo
12-04-2005, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by ENIGMACODE:
"Here on PC, as you fly, (if you're not the cockpit view), the entire aircraft will turn sidways as you're directing the aircraft to where you want to go. Know what I mean?"

That's because the default exterior view is not a "chase view".

F8 is chase view.

han freak solo
12-04-2005, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by ENIGMACODE:

Well as I just got started, I initially loaded PC as a 'stand alone program' - wonder if I can go back to the install disc, and add the integration as an option?

You have to add PF to IL2:Forgotten Battles and the Ace Expansion Pack.

In this order I believe:

1) IL2:Forgotten Battles

2) Ace Expansion Pack

2a) any patches in the correct order(I think)

3) Pacific Fighters as a merged install

3a) any patches in the correct order(I think)

This way you can have the stand alone PF and the merged version on your PC. I had it that way for a while, but I quickly deleted my stand alone PF since it really is just a unused redundancy for me.

dbillo
12-04-2005, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Originally posted by ENIGMACODE:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Well as I just got started, I initially loaded PC as a 'stand alone program' - wonder if I can go back to the install disc, and add the integration as an option?

You have to add PF to IL2:Forgotten Battles and the Ace Expansion Pack.

In this order I believe:
1) IL2:Forgotten Battles
2) Ace Expansion Pack
2a) any patches in the correct order(I think)
3) Pacific Fighters as a merged install
3a) any patches in the correct order(I think)
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's no need to do any patching to FB+AEP before merging PF. After merging, install patches 3.03m, 4.01m, and 4.02m.

And, yes, once you have installed FB+AEP, put the PF install disc in and you will see there is a menu option to install it merged without touching your PF standalone.

If you elect to also have a standalone PF, then apply patches 3.03, 4.01, and 4.02 (without the 'm') to the standalone installation.

EnigmaCode234
12-04-2005, 06:21 PM
Thanx for your ALL your help - you guys mentioned:

"3) Pacific Fighters as a merged install"

Do you mean that I can insert the install disc again, and just install the additional program?

Thanx

EnigmaCode234
12-04-2005, 06:26 PM
Hey han freak solo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

You mentioned:

"That's because the default exterior view is not a 'chase view' - F8 is chase view"

Hey ok - think we're getting somewhere

Soooo then if I'm used to flying in EAW, and MCFS, I should use F8 as I fly - perhaps?

Thanx han freak solo
LOVE YOUR AVATAR!

EnigmaCode234
12-04-2005, 06:45 PM
Hey han freak solo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

You mentioned:

"That's because the default exterior view is not a 'chase view' - F8 is chase view"

I tried F8, and although it's closer to what I'm used to, I still can't get the joystick to function in a similar way as in EAW, and MCFS.

Must be the more complex joystick options, that
PF offers as compared to EAW, and MCFS?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

I went back and flew in cockpit view again, and realized that while controling the aircraft through this view, it's actually almost the same aircraft manipulation as with my joystick
in EAW, and MCFS.

Now if only I can get this type of simplified
aircraft manipulation without the cockpit view, I'll be rockin!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

Thanx han freak solo
LOVE YOUR AVATAR

EnigmaCode234
12-04-2005, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:

You have to add PF to IL2:Forgotten Battles and the Ace Expansion Pack.

In this order I believe:
1) IL2:Forgotten Battles
2) Ace Expansion Pack
2a) any patches in the correct order(I think)
3) Pacific Fighters as a merged install
3a) any patches in the correct order(I think)



Originally posted by han freak solo:
There's no need to do any patching to FB+AEP before merging PF. After merging, install patches 3.03m, 4.01m, and 4.02m.

And, yes, once you have installed FB+AEP, put the PF install disc in and you will see there is a menu option to install it merged without touching your PF standalone.

If you elect to also have a standalone PF, then apply patches 3.03, 4.01, and 4.02 (without the 'm') to the standalone installation.

Wonder if I can un-install the PF standalone, and go back and re-install it with FB+AEP?

I'm workin on it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

han freak solo
12-04-2005, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by ENIGMACODE:
Thanx han freak solo
LOVE YOUR AVATAR

Are you a Foo Fighter?

han freak solo
12-04-2005, 08:50 PM
Be sure and credit dbillo for the correct patch install info. I haven't patched pre-PF in over a year. My memory is flaky.

Exterior view "flying" in this sim isn't done much I think. I'm certain that you will like the cockpit views once you get used to it.

Do you have a graphics limitation to prevent you from using it? When I got the first and original IL2 I had to "fly" in wonder woman view because my rig was too slow to work with the cockpit on.

Before that, I was able to use cockpit view succesfully in CFS1 and CFS2.

It took a better rig to make IL2 work for me well. For PF, my rig is a bit on the slow side though. What are your system specs?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Skycat_2
12-04-2005, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by ENIGMACODE:
Wonder if I can un-install the PF standalone, and go back and re-install it with FB+AEP?

No need to worry about that ... PF "Standalone" creates a different root folder than what is used by FB+AEP+PF. So you can have both versions on your harddrive if you wish. Or uninstall the stand-alone version after you have the whole merged version installed.

The only advantage I can think of for keeping the stand-alone version on your computer is that it might give you faster load times. That, or if you have online friends who only play PF as 'standalone.'

han freak solo
12-05-2005, 05:32 PM
Equipment List:
Sony DCR-TRV310 High 8 Digital Camcorder - Dell Dimension 8400 3.5 Gig P4 - 3 Gig's of RAM - (The internal hard drive was stripped of all the Dell ****) 120 Gig External HD - GEFORCE 6600GT 128MB PCI Express - Pioneer DVD DVR-109 16X - Sound Blaster Live 24 Bit Card with digital editing software - Tascam DA38, DA88 Digital DTRS


Oh, obviously I can't read. This was posted ONLY 4 times before. I swear I would have seen it the first time if you would have posted it 5 times. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

actionhank1786
12-06-2005, 05:40 AM
Dave Grohl is quite the musical genious.
And Enigma, welcome to the community.
You'll find most of us to be friendly, although a few do bite.
And my 2 cents on the merged install, i'd do it!
There's nothing better than being able to fly a Russian La-7 against late war japanese fighters, it's a blast!

Vengeanze
12-06-2005, 06:13 AM
ENIGMACODE, are that your photo in your avatar or are u another Burt Reynolds fan like actionhawk? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Welcome!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

EnigmaCode234
12-06-2005, 07:46 AM
Thank you 'han freak solo', 'Bearcat99',
'Troll2k', 'major_setback', 'JG52Uther', 'jds1978',
and 'dbillo'

You guys are being very helpful! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

As a son of a WWII veteran, my personal interest in this game as other
(WWII games), comes from my appreciation of 'The Greatest Generation',
and the sacrifices they made for us.

In regard to my new arrival here, Bearcat99 mentioned:
"go to the Hyperlobby link and download the client. It is where most of us go to fly online"

I've so far registered with http://www.ubi.com <Does the ubi home page offer the link to get back into the PC forum?

I've also registered with http://hyperfighter.sk/index.php <This is where I downloaded the
client

Is the Hyperlobby similar to the 'MSN Gaming Zone', where flyers go to play in
Pacific Theatre, and Combat Sim Europe Series?

To try to understand the total picture, trol mentioned:
"There is a PF standalone room available at HyperLobby. However 95% of the online
players used the merged install(FB+AEP+PF)and play in the Forgotten Battles room.
You can have multiple installs so you can play PF in the standalone room
(if anyone is there) until you get the other games and merge."

I'm putting this off, until I find out the best way to do the merge since I've already installed PF as a 'stand alone'.

So for now, where do I initially sign in to play the stand alone PF?
Do I click on the short-cut icon for the installed client?
Or do I have to somehow get to Pacific Fighters through the Hyperlobby site?
Or do I have to sign into BOTH sites?

For example:
With the MSN Gaming Zone, the client (necessary software patch), is automatically
installed in your PC, the very first time you sign into the zone and choose MCFS.
Then a list of games is brought up, and you continue to select the game that you want.

PS - Is there a place here, where you can post personal photos that offer interesting
insights in regard to WWII?

On the MSN European Air War Lunchpad site, guys from all over the
world have posted their photos of WWII events, and game screen shots:
http://groups.msn.com/THEEAWLAUNCHPAD/enigmacodesphotos.msnw

Thanx for all your patience
Mike

nakamura_kenji
12-06-2005, 07:59 AM
possible be two installation pacific fighter on it own and pacific fighter merge in to rest of il-2 series like add on pack

if have only pacific fighter install use pacific fighter section hyperlobby

if merge install ation il-2 fb + ace expansion + pacific fighter you use bit section

it possible have both set up but need to seperate install. sad be that both no compatible each other online. pacific fighter only install handle only pacific but merge install handle most theatre you choose server have theatre want play like "zeke v wildcat" be pacific and "warbirds" general be europe. most people merge install this all three install as one be game.

start play think need create username + password then select game have just then clicky server want then join much simple

welcome forum sorry english no my language hope understand maybe some person else explain better me

Vengeanze
12-06-2005, 08:01 AM
The gaming servers at Ubi.com are known to be laggy and **** and full of kids so most serious players use the Hyperlobby.
Hyperlobby works pretty much the same way as MSN Gaming zone - It supports alot of different games and u choose which one u wanna play. Then u see a list of game's available.
But you must install the Hyperlobby client first.
Then to play a game, u launch the Hyperlobby client, login and choose your game.

The difference between PF stand-alone and PF Merge is that in the merged one u get access to all the planes and maps that is in Forgotten Battles.
But to install the merged version you need to buy Forgotten Battles and AEP (Ace Expansion Pack)...me think.


So in short, if you've installed PF stand alone and the Hyperlobby client then just click the Hyperlobby shortcut, login and choose PF standalone for your game.
detailed instructions for Hyperlobby is at the link u posted.

If u got personal photos regarding WW2 then plz post em here. Share with us all.
We're all WW2 buffs in general and WW2 aviation in particular.

Vengeanze
12-06-2005, 08:05 AM
Btw the best way to learn every little detail about this game plus enhance your gaming experience is to join a squad.

Check the Squadron forum:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/48310655

Bearcat99
12-06-2005, 07:34 PM
Howdy Ven.... good to see you about again.

EC from what you said I would imagine you would be much more appreciative of the fully merged installation andf the whole Hyperlobby thing. There are rooms on Hyperlobby that are similar to some of the FFAs at The Zone.... they are the Dogfight servers. The COOP servers are a little different. A coop mission is a lot like a Brunhist mission in CFS... except that it works much better. In a DF server you can jump in and out at your liesure. In a coop you have to wait fior the host to launch and once the host launches the room will disappear from the main Hyperlobby interface and the only way to access the room is to come in through the back door..... more on that later.... Once the host of a coop hits FLY in the server even the backdoor is closed and you will have to wait for the mission to end. It is like the old Team servers in The Zone. One of the good things about DF servers is, they can be a hoot, if you go down in flames all you do is hit refly and come back, but a lot of them except for some of the better ones like Warclouds or Spitsvs109s or ZekesvsWildcats and a few others are full of ... well.. the same types of numnuts who used to populate a lot of the FFA rooms at the Zone. In COOPS though you can fly against AI and live pilots, plus in a coop there is usually a goal of some sort. Escort, Ground attack etc..... I personally prefer coops.. but the DFs can be fun. The best thing I can suggest you do is just merge, get on HL and fly. All the rest will fall into place. Before you know it you will be a familiar face around here and writing posts to some new guy who is asking a whole bunch of questions about where to go, how to get there, and how to take off n a carrier.

EnigmaCode234
12-06-2005, 08:44 PM
Thanx Bearcat99

You mentioned:
"The best thing I can suggest you do is just merge"

So then by this suggestion, should I uninstall PF, then re-install PF but this time opting to load (merge), the other programs from the install prompt?

But 'Forgotten Battles' is another separate game program - yes?

Sorry if I'm still not understanding where to get (FB+AEP+PF)?

Someone else mentioned here"
"But to install the merged version you need to buy Forgotten Battles and AEP (Ace Expansion Pack)...me think."

So then do I need to buy it?

Or is there a download on the HL?

Sorry http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif
Mike

Treetop64
12-06-2005, 10:33 PM
Welcome aboard, friend! It's always nice to see a new face, or avatar, in the forums.

Hey, whenever you get the chance, you must meet our resident "scientist", Raaaid.
.
.
.
...The word scientist is in quotes for a reason, Dude. Trust me on that one...

Ritter_Cuda
12-07-2005, 12:35 AM
EC,
both Forgotten battles an ace expansion pac are programs you should buy. I too bought PF then found out that the real game is FB+AEP+PF it is a world differnt. get the GOLD pack which is both FB and AEP i got mine online from ebgames but there may be more places out there. when done follow the instrctions for the patchs at the top of this forum. then get hyper lobbie.
it is where the big boys play. when your mad that you tail is shot off come here
http://www.joint-ops.com/joil2fb/default.asp
this is a online flight school not a squad. it will give you a good base to work from then join (or not) any sqaud this sim is very intence and takes time to learn it is not something your going to pick up in a day but it is well worth the effort.
ttfn
Cuda

DIRTY-MAC
12-07-2005, 07:58 AM
Welcome!
you should really get the whole merged game
you will not be dissapointed,

IL2 = IL2Sturmovik
(the original game that came first)

FB = Forgotten Battles
sequel to IL2 Sturmovik, its not compatible with IL2, its a totally new stand alone game,
instead its a new inhanced game with all the features and planes from IL2+ much new stuff

(came first of the three disks you need to merge)


AEP = "Forgotten battles" ACE EXPANCION PACK
(expancion pack for FB)(need FB to use it)

PF= Pasific Fighters
(can be used as stand alone or merge it with FB+AEP)

after you have merged FB+AEP+PF you will need to patch it up to the latest one

-HH-Quazi
12-07-2005, 09:28 AM
No need to uninstall PF as a standalone m8. Just find the Forgotten Battles Gold Pack (as it will be easier to find than Forgotten Battles and the Aces Expansion Pack (AEP)). The Gold Pack already has AEP installed. After you install Forgotten Battles Gold Pack, insert your PF cd and click on the merged install link. After it installs, dl and install PF patches:

PF patches
3.03m
4.01m
4.02m

Make sure you run the game briefly after each install to make sure all is well.

Then when you open HL, choose the Forgotten Battles game section and have at it.

If you ever do want to uninstall the PF stand alone game, make sure you use the PF disk to do so.

Make sure you check out the Essentials link BC mentioned. Everything you need for this sim, and to know about this sim, is in that link.

I know some of this stuff was already said. But as I read the posts, I was a bit confused and thought I would lay the same info out in a different way, one I can understand. HEHE

My friend, you have stumbled across the finest group of m8s that share WWII aviation history unlike any other. But be careful, you may find yourself spending alot of your free time flying this sim and hanging out on these forums. For a single man thats all fine and dandy. But for a married man, this could cause a little grief. HEHE Welcome aboard!

EnigmaCode234
12-07-2005, 07:37 PM
If you ever do want to uninstall the PF stand alone game, make sure you use the PF disk to do so

Thank you Ritter_Cuda, DIRTY-MAC, and -HH-Quazi

Ok so then as I understand it, if I ever need to un-install PC, it sounds like the software actually provided a more efficient way to do the un-install perhaps to scrub the system registry (rather than do a traditional remove program from add remove programs)

But it also appears as though that won't be necceasy at anyway.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

-HH-Quazi made it clear to me that 'Forgotten Battles' and the 'Aces Expansion Pack' are separate programs that one should actually buy.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


And as I understand it, until then, as I continue to comprehend things, I can still play the stand alone PC on the HL, (that is if there's anybody there who also wants to play the stand alone version) correct?

Ok guys thanx for everything ....

See yas around http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

HayateAce
12-07-2005, 09:03 PM
Dude, get:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006IR21.02._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

then:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001D1RUI.02._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

and then:

http://www.clubic.com/photo/00100756.jpg

Then DL the 3 last patches and come online with Hypernooby or All Seein Eye.

Flying_Nutcase
12-08-2005, 12:05 AM
And Enigma,

When you're all settled down, you'll most likely enjoy what the Full Mission Builder has to offer. Plenty of room for creativity.

The other big thing is coops - nothing like flying user-designed missions with a mate.

BTW Welcome to a whip-snort funky game <ahem> sim.

~S~