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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 11:15 AM
Now I don't wish to be a pariah as I love IL2FB, but can someone tell me why 8 (8!) 50 cals on a p-47 should do so little damage,even at close range?
I found the same thing with the Hurri IIb. I know that they were only rifle calibre bullets, but surely 12 of them firing at 800 rds/min each should have a little more effect.After all, the RAF managed to do rather well in the BOB with only 8. If they damage is to be totolly believed in IL2 4 the .303's then we wouldn't have shot sod all down
Just a thought...please don't lynch me!I'm fairly new to this!

XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 11:15 AM
Now I don't wish to be a pariah as I love IL2FB, but can someone tell me why 8 (8!) 50 cals on a p-47 should do so little damage,even at close range?
I found the same thing with the Hurri IIb. I know that they were only rifle calibre bullets, but surely 12 of them firing at 800 rds/min each should have a little more effect.After all, the RAF managed to do rather well in the BOB with only 8. If they damage is to be totolly believed in IL2 4 the .303's then we wouldn't have shot sod all down
Just a thought...please don't lynch me!I'm fairly new to this!

XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 11:50 AM
There's a lot of debate on these boards right now as to how much damage should be done by this and that, and should a plane really take so much/so little damage.
However, most of these posts are, like yours, just hunches. You may well be right, but to get any changes implemented we'll need to gather evidence. So - if you have something more solid than "they surely couldn't have been that weak", you are most welcome to post it.

XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 11:52 AM
Have you installed the patch yet? In FB 1.0 the 50 cal rounds were pretty weak, but they've made a huge improvement in 1.1.Same goes for the .303 rounds.
If you're having problems taking down enemy planes using these rounds, I have 2 suggestions.
You're probably shooting at them at to great distance,get closer.You really want to be shooting at under 300 metres, 0.30 on the distance indicator I think but it's been such a long time since I've had it switched on I might be wrong.
Also, you might want to check your gun convergence.The default setting at 500 metres is a bit too far out.You really want it at 300 metres at 1st and then alter it to your personal preference.I have both my cannons and guns set at 150 metres.Altering your gun convergence to the correct range makes a big improvement on the lethality of bullets.
Hope this helps.

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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 12:13 PM
just a hint- set your convergance to 150m and attack a bigger building at a factory (one of these, that are not destructable by MGs) and starting to fire at bigger range.. watch the spreading of all bullets and then if you get closer you will be surprised what happend in 200-150m distance... then you create a real hot spot..

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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 12:21 PM
we have talked about this a bit,,,, the john mosses browing.50 is a very hot round i can now shoot down a il-2 with a p-47 very easy even easier than i thought ,,,yea yea i know but i had to try though ..........i converges at 250 meters for mg

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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 01:51 PM
Those .50's are uber. I dont see what the big gripe is. I took down a couple of Me's with catastrophic explosions from those 50's. You guys probably have your convergance out too far, and are shooting out of range. I have mine set at 350 meters, and I never shoot at anything over 400 meters.


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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 05:30 PM
try shooting down a fw now with the jug. i set convergence at .20 and got to .20 and my friend flew straight and level for me. i unloaded most of my ammo. i took extra. maybe 3000 rounds into it from behind. at .20 to .15 and finally right before i ran out he died.and all of the ammo poured right into his fw. it was hilarious . almost no effect at all. however if in a head on and you hit a fw engine you can kill the engine sometimes

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