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WTE_Ibis
11-13-2007, 04:10 AM
Anyone using one of these?
are they : ok
: great
: better than TiR
: I'd trade my woman for one
: don't bother

Thanks guys.

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HotelBushranger
11-13-2007, 05:20 AM
One of these being?

Schwarz.13
11-13-2007, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
One of these being?

http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/sound/Buttkicker/images/box2.gif

Buttkicker (http://www.thebuttkicker.com/gaming/index.htm)

Pirschjaeger
11-13-2007, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
One of these being?

Obviously an electronic toenail clipper. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

HBR, get with the programme. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Fritz

Pirschjaeger
11-13-2007, 05:30 AM
Ahhhh, the Schwartz was faster.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

SeaFireLIV
11-13-2007, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Ibis:
Anyone using one of these?
are they : ok
: great
: better than TiR
: I'd trade my woman for one
: don't bother

Thanks guys.

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Better than TIR? hahahahahahahahah! (hmmm, laughing in text on a forum looks... slightly nuts).

Anyway, Buttkicker is probabaly the least necessary of all IL2 peripherals...

1. good joystick/s.
2. TIR.
3.Pedals.
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101. buttkicker.

It`s also too expensive for what it does.

In fact, the shaking from my FF Sidewinder stick is enough and great for the cost.

Bearcat99
11-13-2007, 06:08 AM
IMO if you can get one at the sale price of $40-$60 it is worth it... otherwise not. It is a nice addition. It is NOT better than TIR.

249th_Maico
11-13-2007, 06:21 AM
Ibis, you made two mistakes in your post buddy. You should have started it out with, "You who have a Buttkicker System, what do you think?"
The second mistake is saying anything but "BUY TIR NOW" in this forum is just wrong. TIR should be the second thing you buy when you get interested in flight sims. The first one of course being a joystick.
I have myself thought about buying one of these gizmos. They seem to be a good gadget for the cockpit man. However, it is NOT a must have. Its just a nice accessorry that would make the experience a bit more realistic.

DrHerb
11-13-2007, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Ibis:
: I'd trade my woman for one

lol I think in regards to the Buttkicker, your woman might trade you for it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
11-13-2007, 07:00 AM
I fly on headphones 99% of the time so, I'd assume that renders it irrelevant.

Von_Rat
11-13-2007, 08:17 AM
am i the only one who when he 1st read,,,butt****r,,, thought he saw a L instead of the 1st k.

SeaFireLIV
11-13-2007, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by Von_Rat:
am i the only one who when he 1st read,,,butt****r,,, thought he saw a L instead of the 1st k.

Nope not at all.

I think Sigmund Frieud might have something to say about your thinking though... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Von_Rat
11-13-2007, 08:26 AM
either that or my eye doctor.

blairgowrie
11-13-2007, 08:37 AM
One of my squad m8s tried buttkicker and this is what he had to say about it.

"Wow. My neighbors are gunna kill me.

These things as a pair are awesome. Let me start with takeoff. When the motor is off, everything is quiet of course. No movement anywhere. As soon as I hit the ignition key, the seat starts vibrating with an ever increasing pulse (the prop spinning up). The kickback of smoke right before full ignition startled me the first time, and after a few pops from my seat and headset, the engine reached peak.

During normal flight there is a repetitive drone to the buzz, something which I imagine isn't far off from reality. Its weird at first, but afterwards its one of those things like flying with the trackIR - it wouldn't feel real without it.

Now is the fun part. Using my machine guns sends my seat bucking. The vibrations from my head and body even travel down to my flying hand, making it feel like theres almost force feedback coming from the joystick. It feels like it should.

Taking damage now has a realistic feel to it, and you feel everything coming apart at the seams. The chair is kicking my *** at this point, not with anything steady but random bumps and punts as my plane absorbs lead. I wish sometimes that IL-2 didn't kick you into third person mode as soon as you blew up, cause outside the plane an explosion feels less... explosive. But I see why they made that choice, because technically you'd be dead and wouldn't feel that explosion anyway.

These things are *fun*. Smiley

The sound quality on the headphones are around a B+ grade. I boosted the high end of my EQ up a bit, but as gaming headphones and for the price ($50), they're right where they should be in terms of sound quality.

I'm also getting some weird garbled noises during the menu screen of IL-2, though I think its something to do with my soundcard and not the headphones. Sounds like electric interference from my harddrive or something. Anyway its only a slight annoyance.

The only downside of the butt kicker is that my downstairs neighbors are eventually gunna complain. It isn't so much the bass as the fact that I'm sure theres a slight rumble coming from their ceiling.

All in all, for $150 the pair is a worthy purchase, and I feel it definitely engages me in the game that much further. Its somewhat frivolous to spend so much money to have my *** kicked around in a computer chair, but I believe deserve an *** kicking now and again. :wink:

On a side note, I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows what being in a WWII fighter likely "felt" like? What was the average amount of feedback during flight. Did using the machine guns rattle the plane you think?"

blairgowrie
11-13-2007, 08:40 AM
I forgot to mention, he also bought a set of Vibrating Headphones at the same time.

Billy_BigBoy
11-13-2007, 08:53 AM
Errr....I don't know.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

blairgowrie
11-13-2007, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Billy_BigBoy:
Errr....I don't know.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I shared your thoughts then and I share them now LOL. Not for me either but the original poster did ask.

Divine-Wind
11-13-2007, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by DrHerb:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Ibis:
: I'd trade my woman for one

lol I think in regards to the Buttkicker, your woman might trade you for it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif I was waiting for someone to say that.

Stiletto-
11-13-2007, 09:55 AM
I've thought about getting one of these too, seems like a nice addition for your senses even if it doesn't really make your flying better, it's probably pretty immersive. I also play racing sims, and I think reving an engine up on the starting grid with this thing would be awesome. Also, if it rattles you enough when you get shot or blown up, I can see that as being somewhat of a negative reinforcement, making you more likely to try and survive, goes with the immersion factor.

Still think I want a triple head 2 go more though, but thats alot more expensive.

Worf101
11-13-2007, 10:11 AM
I've had one for about a month now. It's "nice" kit, but hardly "essential". You notice imediately when your joysticks not working righ (re roasted profile) or your Track IR's not running or your sound is on the fritz, not so with the BKer. With this thing I can fly all night and not notice that it wasn't turned on. It's background noise, ambiance helper not life or death. If you can get it for $60.00 on the Bay brand new like I did, I'd say get it.

Otherwise... eh...

Da Worfster

PS, when on my kid thinks there's an elephant tap dancing over his head.

F0_Dark_P
11-13-2007, 10:11 AM
Why do you need two?.. one for each *** cheek? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ok they could be fun, but to expansive me thinks

cundo
11-13-2007, 10:31 AM
Yes I Have one,It is very cool to feel the base of cannons,and when flak hits your plane.You jump out of your seat.I Love it.

StkNRdr
11-13-2007, 10:34 AM
I've had one for several month now (paid $50 after rebate). Certainly not essential and would place it after throttle and pedals. I bought mine because I have a FFB joystick and thought it would add to the immersion and it does. I don't know if it was mentioned but there are controls on it so it can be set as a little white "noise" or it can really kick butt. The one down side is that on Teamspeak individuals with low voices can actualy trigger a response. All a matter of settings.

WTE_Ibis
11-13-2007, 01:01 PM
Thanks for your advice chasps.
I already have TiR, CH stick, CH pedals and
Saitek throttle.
I thought this might bump the immersion factor up a notch or two but we get ripped off with price here, they want A$300. So from your responses it looks like a no go.
I can get it from the States for $60 but they want A$200 to ship it???
Cheers, Ibis.

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Bearcat99
11-13-2007, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by 249th_Maico:
TIR should be the second thing you buy when you get interested in flight sims. The first one of course being a joystick.
I have myself thought about buying one of these gizmos. They seem to be a good gadget for the cockpit man. However, it is NOT a must have. Its just a nice accessory that would make the experience a bit more realistic.

Exactly.. I agree 100%... and anyone who tried one of the earlier versions if TIR and didn't like it... you have to try TIR4... it is indeed one of the best accessories around for siming.. Id say for a serious simmer... a HOTAS, pedals and TIR are absolutely essential. A buttkicker doesn't hurt.. (Now that sounds kind of funny doesnt it..LOL...) just be sure to spend $50-$70 (http://www.gogamer.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=7626649&extid=Froogle)max.. IMO it isn't worth more than that..


Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
I fly on headphones 99% of the time so, I'd assume that renders it irrelevant.

Actually no.... not completely... it is a pretty good accessory... it is like adding a solenoid to your chair... it is not bad.. but like I said best purchased at the sale price.... certainly not worth 3 figures unless you just have it like that... just my 2 cents..


Originally posted by StkNRdr:
I've had one for several month now (paid $50 after rebate). Certainly not essential and would place it after throttle and pedals. I bought mine because I have a FFB joystick and thought it would add to the immersion and it does. I don't know if it was mentioned but there are controls on it so it can be set as a little white "noise" or it can really kick butt. The one down side is that on Teamspeak individuals with low voices can actualy trigger a response. All a matter of settings.

Thats what I paid for mine... and at that price it was worth it.. as your your TS issues... hey man.. you need to score a USB headset.. You are in the US.. go to Best Buy... get yourself a USB headset for $40-$50 with a product replacement plan for @ $12 and you will be good to go. Windows will see the USB headset as a separate sound source ans so will TS. You can assign comms to the headset alone and the sim sounds to your speakers... really adds to the immersion and cuts down on unwanted comms chatter leaking out.. especially useful if you have kids and squadmates with colorful tongues.

I have always felt that FFB was also a good addition.. but more so just the vibration and controls than the gun shake.. which I always thought was kind of hokey and do not use.. Id like to see a FFB HOTAS and pedals that had engine vibration modeled.. can you imagine... you have a chair that shakes with your Pratt & Whitney R2800... and also feeling the vibes through your rudder pedals and both hands..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif For the control surfaces though there is nothing out there that can beat a MSFFB2... IMO no spring can do what that stick can do... Id take one of those over any other joystick any day of the week....

but yeah.. the buttkicker isn't bad...

BillyTheKid_22
11-13-2007, 04:24 PM
I have my buttkicker!!
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Lurch1962
11-13-2007, 04:41 PM
After I finish an illustration project at the end of this winter (and get paid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif), I just might get both the TIR4 and a Buttkicker. I live in apartment, and the hardwood floor will certainly send annoying sounds down--all around, actually--to my neighbors. To get around this, I'll experiment with a 'vibration supression system'. Either a sheet of dense foam/rubber, or individual pads for the chair's feet.

--Lurch--

fabianfred
11-13-2007, 05:22 PM
looks nice...but not sure I could afford it...and shipping to the Thai jungle too....lol

Not sure i need it though...with the sound mod and bass turned up the whole thatched hut shakes anyway

come to think of it...WITH the sound mod it would be devastating.......those Corsair engines http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

SeaVee
11-13-2007, 06:18 PM
I have one too and as others have posted its a nifty thing, not essential but worth it at the $50-$60 price point. I use it with IL2, BoB2 and also with BF2 BF2142. In the later two games it kicks arse (pun intended) on the heavy mechanized vehicles and with the massive explosions. Again, at $50-$60 its worth it.

Same sentiments that a good joystick and TIR are FAR more important.

Bearcat99
11-13-2007, 06:57 PM
Your sig pic sends chills down my spine... makes me afraid to go to sleep... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

the horror.... the horror....

Divine-Wind
11-13-2007, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by StkNRdr:
The one down side is that on Teamspeak individuals with low voices can actualy trigger a response. All a matter of settings.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif