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JG52Uther
03-21-2006, 11:21 AM

JG52Uther
03-21-2006, 11:21 AM

Waldo.Pepper
03-21-2006, 12:36 PM
Canada would be nice.

USMC_Tailspin
03-21-2006, 01:41 PM
I voted YES http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

But then what do I know about marketing, profits and good customer support http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif you mean there not going to sell it in the U.S.? You'r joking right http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

steve_v
03-21-2006, 01:49 PM
I got BoE from the UK, so I guess I can this title also. (But prefer getting it from the Ubi store, or locally. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif)

danjama
03-21-2006, 03:11 PM
Theres a problem in the poll.

Theres a difference between liking it to be released and whether ill but it in the US. Id buy it from the UK, but id still like to see it released in the US.

JG52Uther
03-21-2006, 04:14 PM
Edited for clarity http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

slipBall
03-21-2006, 04:20 PM
I hope that they do, can't imagine why they would'nt. All of South & North America's, that's a big market

badaboom.1
03-21-2006, 04:21 PM
I believe Jason from GOGAMER.COM is working on an import!
http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb....topic;f=144;t=004108 (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=144;t=004108)

Bearcat99
03-21-2006, 05:31 PM
I didnt know it wasnt going to be released in the US. Thats pretty stupid if you ask me...

Treetop64
03-21-2006, 06:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I didnt know it wasnt going to be released in the US. Thats pretty stupid if you ask me... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Startling news indeed... Complete shocker. Explains why the guys at Fry's had no idea what I was talking about when I tried to order it.

That, IMNSFHO, IS a pretty stupid move! I don't understand that at all... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

danjama
03-21-2006, 06:30 PM
Maybe the dont have the money for distribution?

Of course i think it is stupid too, they shud get it over in as many countries as possible!

Tooz_69GIAP
03-21-2006, 08:21 PM
Well, this was mentioned in the other thread, and I would suspect is the reason why it's being released in Europe first.

Europe and N. America use different types of DVDs. Two different regions
a European DVD can't be used on a N. American DVD reader, as far as I am aware. You need to change the region on your reader, and that can only be done so many times.

I am assuming that Ubi are releasing the European DVD first, and then will publish a N. American DVD.

I could be wrong, and maybe Ubi just doesn't like all you folks over the water, or perhaps there is some other reason. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see!

crazyivan1970
03-21-2006, 08:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
Well, this was mentioned in the other thread, and I would suspect is the reason why it's being released in Europe first.

Europe and N. America use different types of DVDs. Two different regions
a European DVD can't be used on a N. American DVD reader, as far as I am aware. You need to change the region on your reader, and that can only be done so many times.

I am assuming that Ubi are releasing the European DVD first, and then will publish a N. American DVD.

I could be wrong, and maybe Ubi just doesn't like all you folks over the water, or perhaps there is some other reason. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That statement would be true for movies, not for software mate. You reffering to differnt video systems, as NTCS in the US vs PAL in Europe. Does not apply to games as far as i know. BTW, PC`s dvd-roms are not sensitive to this matter. They can play any movies.

Destroyer110
03-21-2006, 09:39 PM
ummm .. am I being stupid or don't we have all the software described in the DVD release?

I thought we were waiting to buy the PE-2 version???

Tooz_69GIAP
03-21-2006, 10:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
That statement would be true for movies, not for software mate. You reffering to differnt video systems, as NTCS in the US vs PAL in Europe. Does not apply to games as far as i know. BTW, PC`s dvd-roms are not sensitive to this matter. They can play any movies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah well, I stand corrected. It must be that Ubi don't like all you folks across the water then!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

ucanfly
03-21-2006, 10:25 PM
Wow - I don't believe what I am reading. No DVD in the US? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Your just going to hurt your sales for any future addons in the US with that slick move. It's hard enough trying to get all three (especially AEP) here as it is.

Like to know which genius made that decision. Don't be surprised if this affects storm of war sales either as the public can get fickle if you are not on the front burner for a couple of years.

knightflyte
03-21-2006, 11:28 PM
It's Bill O'Reilly's fault.

He called for a boycott of France, and now France (or more accurately - UBI) is boycotting the USA.


Activity: Ubisoft is a leading international developer, publisher and distributor of interactive entertainment products.
Founded: 1986
CEO: Yves Guillemot

<span class="ev_code_RED">Worldwide Headquarters: Montreuil-sous-Bois, France</span>
Worldwide Headquarters: Montreuil-sous-Bois, France



Removes tongue from cheek.

Feathered_IV
03-22-2006, 03:48 AM
Is this an official poll thats lets us have the final say on whether or not the US get their own release? Or is it another 'getting to know you' thread that lets us discuss an irrelevant point that we have no say over anyhow?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

major_setback
03-22-2006, 03:50 AM
I don't want anyone else to have it; just me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Worf101
03-22-2006, 07:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
Well, this was mentioned in the other thread, and I would suspect is the reason why it's being released in Europe first.

Europe and N. America use different types of DVDs. Two different regions
a European DVD can't be used on a N. American DVD reader, as far as I am aware. You need to change the region on your reader, and that can only be done so many times.

I am assuming that Ubi are releasing the European DVD first, and then will publish a N. American DVD.

I could be wrong, and maybe Ubi just doesn't like all you folks over the water, or perhaps there is some other reason. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That statement would be true for movies, not for software mate. You reffering to differnt video systems, as NTCS in the US vs PAL in Europe. Does not apply to games as far as i know. BTW, PC`s dvd-roms are not sensitive to this matter. They can play any movies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
+1 on that. I'm running several games that of British origin that were never or are no longer available here in the States. They run just fine. Regions refer to movie DVDs, not data or games.

Da Worfster

Capt._Tenneal
03-22-2006, 08:10 AM
I voted yes too. I sure hope this, seemingly, illogical move on Ubi's part gets reversed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

CPS_Triad
03-22-2006, 09:10 AM
No Brainer: US distro should be great follow up to the series. Ideally it should be a prelude to BoB, no matter where it's released http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

But, still we wait for BoB http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Hopfully it will be like waiting for a great feast- you know it'll be delicious, but you still don't like the waiting http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Cheers

Triad

Chuck_Older
03-22-2006, 09:53 AM
Guys-

This poll is great and all, but Ubi doesn't care about a poll

You need to contact them directly. Don't think this poll shows them anything. E-mail them.

Copy and paste this:

Dear Sirs:

I am a customer of UbiSoft and I live in the United States. I have read with great disappointment that the upcoming DVD version of the Il2 Collection may NOT be available for retail sale in the U.S.A.

I would like to protest the exclusion of the U.S. market in the strongest way possible. I desire to purchase this title. Making it unavailable in the US means that I will have to purchase it online from a European source. This will exclude ALL customers in the U.S.A. who cannot order online or choose not to do so.

I urge you strongly to reconsider your plan of action, which actively excludes your U.S. customers.

Sincerely yours,
[your name here]

bhunter2112
03-22-2006, 11:47 AM
I cannot even fathom a reason they would not release it in the US.

Temporal_Mass
03-22-2006, 12:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Guys-

This poll is great and all, but Ubi doesn't care about a poll

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Done and done. I am also sending a polite email to Oleg letting him know that even though I own the IL2 series, I was going to purchase the compilation. However, his distibutor is keeping him from getting some of my disposable income as I will not purchase this DVD if it is not released in the US.

GoGamer-Jason
03-22-2006, 01:27 PM
Guys,

Don't despair. I already saw this coming. I will have them for any USA customer who wants one. No need to get worked up. It's all good.

We already have it up for pre-order.

If an official NA version comes out I'll carry that too.

http://www.gogamer.com/cgi-bin/GoGamer.storefront/en/Product/001IL2C

Jason

Chuck_Older
03-22-2006, 02:07 PM
Jason-

That's great, really it is. Providing a source for this is exactly what the community needs

However, that's treating a symptom, not the disease. Personally, I don't care to purchase things online. Please, don't try to convince me otherwise. I do not trust it. That's not a comment towards you. That's my own personal feeling. I'm not risking my personal info over a PC simulation, and that's how I see the issue. It's just not important enough for the potential risk as I see it. I'm sure that others will say there's no risk. Well, I have no ID theft problems, and it's hard to argue with my method of success- don't put yourself at risk, period.

As a customer, I expect to be able to use my hard earned cash, not my electronic credit/debit system. This has zero to do with a PC simulation, it how a business makes it's choices to me. I hope you understand where I'm coming from. This isn't about availability as much as it is about a deliberate exclusion of one of it's markets, a market that is a good portion of their overall business. There is also the little issue of folks who cannot get online reliably or often

********************************************


PLEASE folks, don't e-mail Oleg. I am suggesting that you e-mail UBISOFT with a respectful position on your feelings. Oleg does not run UbiSoft

Gold_Monkey
03-22-2006, 02:50 PM
I want one !!!!!, But I would prefer to have the item in my grubby little paw as I exit the store.

Temporal_Mass
03-22-2006, 03:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:

PLEASE folks, don't e-mail Oleg. I am suggesting that you e-mail UBISOFT with a respectful position on your feelings. Oleg does not run UbiSoft </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know Oleg doesn't run Ubisoft. I would very much like to purchase the product that Oleg and 1C:Maddox is putting out, but I will not because of a decision made by Ubisoft. If you were Oleg, wouldn't you want to know? Not trying to be a smart-a** here Chuck, if I am missing something, clue me in.

Chuck_Older
03-22-2006, 03:18 PM
You fish were the fish are. if your piano needs tuning, you don't call a doctor. If your car is broken, you don't call a plumber http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If you want to tell an entity that they are distributing their software in a way that might be in error, you want to talk to the distributor. Oleg doesn't tell Ubi where to sell or how to sell. Ubi makes those decisions as far as my understand goes

If you want to tell Oleg that Ubi is making a decision on where to put his product on the shelves, it's probably not news to him. if it IS news to him, it might come as quite a shock....but I doubt it's news. The end users are typically the last to know in my experience

What I'm doing is heading a misunderstanding off at the pass, Temporal Mass

Folks will see what I posted, then they read that you e-mailed Oleg about it...and now, knowing how the boards work, Oleg gets e-mail he shouldn't, from people who put two and two together and got 5 and 3/8ths, Ubi gets nothing that tells them anything from us, and we wonder what happened

MaxMhz
03-23-2006, 05:05 AM
Now don't despair...
Even if they would be stupid enough not to release in the USA,
There's allways a way if you search hard enough. Last week I searched my but off for Ace Expansion Pack. It was available nowhere, not even IBI sold it anymore...
I dinaly bought it at a German ebay online shop for a very low price even 5.90 euro for the game and 5.50 for the delivery (And yep they confirmed it was a sealed UBI original http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Now if UBI is concerned about lost sales they should do something about it!
Maybe next time I'll bribe Oleg with a case of vodka if everything else fails http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MaxMhz
03-23-2006, 05:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
You fish were the fish are. if your piano needs tuning, you don't call a doctor. If your car is broken, you don't call a plumber http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If you want to tell an entity that they are distributing their software in a way that might be in error, you want to talk to the distributor. Oleg doesn't tell Ubi where to sell or how to sell. Ubi makes those decisions as far as my understand goes

If you want to tell Oleg that Ubi is making a decision on where to put his product on the shelves, it's probably not news to him. if it IS news to him, it might come as quite a shock....but I doubt it's news. The end users are typically the last to know in my experience

What I'm doing is heading a misunderstanding off at the pass, Temporal Mass

Folks will see what I posted, then they read that you e-mailed Oleg about it...and now, knowing how the boards work, Oleg gets e-mail he shouldn't, from people who put two and two together and got 5 and 3/8ths, Ubi gets nothing that tells them anything from us, and we wonder what happened </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean UBI ever listened to it's customers? They could have fooled me...

Da_Godfatha
03-23-2006, 06:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
Well, this was mentioned in the other thread, and I would suspect is the reason why it's being released in Europe first.

Europe and N. America use different types of DVDs. Two different regions
a European DVD can't be used on a N. American DVD reader, as far as I am aware. You need to change the region on your reader, and that can only be done so many times.

I am assuming that Ubi are releasing the European DVD first, and then will publish a N. American DVD.

I could be wrong, and maybe Ubi just doesn't like all you folks over the water, or perhaps there is some other reason. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That statement would be true for movies, not for software mate. You reffering to differnt video systems, as NTCS in the US vs PAL in Europe. Does not apply to games as far as i know. BTW, PC`s dvd-roms are not sensitive to this matter. They can play any movies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry Ivan, but that is wrong. DVD software OR movies is the same. I have a European version of Far Cry on DVD, it says on the back, only in land code 2, i.e. Europe. That is a UbiSoft product too. Maybe some people can change there code, but most can not. BTW, I sent my bro-in-law the DVD version of FarCry, and it does not work on his American system.

But, then again, the way things seem to always change, maybe Ubi will use a different coding system, maybe sort of a multicode.

Capt._Tenneal
03-23-2006, 09:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GoGamer-Jason:
Guys,

Don't despair. I already saw this coming. I will have them for any USA customer who wants one. No need to get worked up. It's all good.

We already have it up for pre-order.

If an official NA version comes out I'll carry that too.

http://www.gogamer.com/cgi-bin/GoGamer.storefront/en/Product/001IL2C

Jason </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Jason, I browsed your site. Nice collection of IL-2 related stuff you have there. Is there any reason why you don't carry the Matrix Games add-ons too ( The Last Days, Banzai, Case Blue ) ? It would be great to have one source for all IL-2 add-ons.

crazyivan1970
03-23-2006, 09:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Da_Godfatha:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
Well, this was mentioned in the other thread, and I would suspect is the reason why it's being released in Europe first.

Europe and N. America use different types of DVDs. Two different regions
a European DVD can't be used on a N. American DVD reader, as far as I am aware. You need to change the region on your reader, and that can only be done so many times.

I am assuming that Ubi are releasing the European DVD first, and then will publish a N. American DVD.

I could be wrong, and maybe Ubi just doesn't like all you folks over the water, or perhaps there is some other reason. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That statement would be true for movies, not for software mate. You reffering to differnt video systems, as NTCS in the US vs PAL in Europe. Does not apply to games as far as i know. BTW, PC`s dvd-roms are not sensitive to this matter. They can play any movies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry Ivan, but that is wrong. DVD software OR movies is the same. I have a European version of Far Cry on DVD, it says on the back, only in land code 2, i.e. Europe. That is a UbiSoft product too. Maybe some people can change there code, but most can not. BTW, I sent my bro-in-law the DVD version of FarCry, and it does not work on his American system.

But, then again, the way things seem to always change, maybe Ubi will use a different coding system, maybe sort of a multicode. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Allow to disagree http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif PAL DVD`s will not play on NTCS DVD players and the other way around will not work either. Same applies for TVs. PAL tv will not work in US and NTSC one in Europe. Olny multisystem TV/DVD can play either format. While PC-DVD ROM is multisystem device to begin with http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cheers!

Hocking
03-23-2006, 08:40 PM
I can't tell you how upset I get when I see terrible "Use-a-Little-Common-Sense" business decisions made. Half of the PC-Gaming Industries problems is the companies that participate in that industry. They do stupid things like this all the time.

As I mentioned in another post, what sense does it make to create a product, and then not offer that product to your largest market. How hard can it be. UBI is acting worst than Codemasters at this point, and that is pretty bad.

For the record, I have never bought any of the IL-2 games. I was planning on finally giving the games a try when I heard about this new DVD that had the entire series on it. And now this! I will not be buying the game at this point. I guess it wasn't meant to be over all these years.