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XyZspineZyX
11-02-2003, 02:54 PM
I've found this guy on the internet:

http://www.luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de/

Does anyone have experience with this person, regarding quality, completeness and speed of delivery?

I'm interested in getting his Me-262 and He-219 handbook.

Thanks,

Jeroen

XyZspineZyX
11-02-2003, 02:54 PM
I've found this guy on the internet:

http://www.luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de/

Does anyone have experience with this person, regarding quality, completeness and speed of delivery?

I'm interested in getting his Me-262 and He-219 handbook.

Thanks,

Jeroen

XyZspineZyX
11-02-2003, 03:23 PM
I would be interested in this as well.

This site has quite a comprehensive list of German aircraft and engine manuals.

I'm curious also if there are English translations of some of these manuals as well.

Perhaps butch2k knows?

butch, are you out there?


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XyZspineZyX
11-02-2003, 07:50 PM
Just ask him to send you a PDF (Acrobat) sample to you by e-mail and he will.



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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 05:14 PM
Thanks, I'll drop him a mail.

He already stated that some copies are not so good because of poor original papier quality, so I'm just curious as to how they actually look.

Jeroen

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 09:55 PM
I have ordered a number of manuals from him in the past.

1. They are (or were) bound in hardcover bindings
2. They are enlarged to A4
3. They are cleaned up (and/or redone)

Note that these are either user or tech manuals and can be dry...

For instance one of the Fw 190 manuals I have (4 binders) has almost 2 complete ones focused on wiring, fusing and part numbers, NOT interesting reading for 90% of us (and admittedly not even for yours truely).

But the pilot's manuals are 100%, they contribute to the better understanding of the types involved and show that even a sim like IL-2 or FB hardly touches the basics of FLYING a WW2 a/c, nor does any of the current sims.

The Air Ministry Pilot's Notes are similar.

Are they value for money?

That really depends on your funds and level of involvement.

Beware that you might not find the tech manuals your Valhalla of info and I have seven pilot's and five (in some cases Multi-Volume) tech manuals, so I have some idea what I am talking about.

I find the CURRENT Hafner Euro prices to be quite high and haven't ordered any more for some quite some time.

Ordered some interesting alternatives though, He 162 and Mistel pilot's manuals, probably not as nicely done as Hafner's but we'll see.

One thing I must say...Hafner's service is 100% and he's a real gentleman (he'll correct any problems ASAP), so if you make up your mind, you won't be sorry in that sense!

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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 05:45 PM
rhorta wrote:

- I have ordered a number of manuals from him in the
- past.
-
- 1. They are (or were) bound in hardcover bindings
- 2. They are enlarged to A4
- 3. They are cleaned up (and/or redone)

I've recieved the scans I mailed him about, and they look quite good indeed.

- Note that these are either user or tech manuals and
- can be dry...
-
- For instance one of the Fw 190 manuals I have (4
- binders) has almost 2 complete ones focused on
- wiring, fusing and part numbers, NOT interesting
- reading for 90% of us (and admittedly not even for
- yours truely).

Another hobby of mine is my old Hanomag van... I have some books on that thing too, and it looks like the excact same, only covering a airplane. I don't expect them to be nice reads for a rainy day, but I'm just interested in how things were put together. Thanks for the warning, though, that's the exact reason why I'm not interested in getting any parts books.

- But the pilot's manuals are 100%, they contribute to
- the better understanding of the types involved and
- show that even a sim like IL-2 or FB hardly touches
- the basics of FLYING a WW2 a/c, nor does any of the
- current sims.

I was thinking about this: Me-262 handbook and operating/pilots manual and the He-219 handbook. The handbook being more of a workshop manual then http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

- Are they value for money?
- That really depends on your funds and level of
- involvement.

100% agreed.


- Beware that you might not find the tech manuals your
- Valhalla of info and I have seven pilot's and five
- (in some cases Multi-Volume) tech manuals, so I have
- some idea what I am talking about.

Indeed, the handbooks are of very little use. They were intended for groundcrews to service and/or repair the planes. Now not everyone has a 262 in the garage, but I'm quite interested in the construction and how things looked like and worked.
-
- I find the CURRENT Hafner Euro prices to be quite
- high and haven't ordered any more for some quite
- some time.

Yes, they ain't cheap for sure!


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Thanks for your reply,

Jeroen

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