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CaptainFlunky
10-25-2004, 02:41 PM
I have to say overall it's pretty good, what I expected and I am sure that in the coming months the patches will expand the experience. However, after playing for a while, mostly in campaigns, I've learned a few things that I wasn't aware of about the war in the pacific;

1. It was standard procedure for U.S. naval aviators to change into a Russian flight suit prior to bailing out of an aircraft.

2. The Imperial Japanese Army employed a highly advanced "spider tank" at Iwo Jima that could cling to 70 degree inclines.

3. ALL bomber squadrons operating in New Guinea suffered 99.9% casualties when flying over hilly terrain.

4. Early bomb-carrying Corsairs apparently retact the landing gear automatically when the wings fold down.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, I just found these things rather amusing.

falling-bird
10-25-2004, 03:39 PM
Got to say, you're right about the spider tanks, AND the casualty rate caused by the New Guinea mountain range. I'm thinking that everybody just nods off due to the repetitive nature of the missions to Point Oro. Yawn, I can feel it now, yawn, coming on again. Must...stay...awake...press ESC and go somewhere...else yawn, oh no! a mountai...CRASH http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

CaptainFlunky
10-25-2004, 04:38 PM
Yep. The first time it happened with me was with a flight of Beaufighters, the first mission I flew after installing. I was psyched, 'finally, a Beau! Whistling death! This is going to ROCK my friend'. I was on autopilot, enjoying the scenery and I was like, "NO NO NO!!!", as I watched one right after another slam into the side of a cliff.

"Six go, one comes back. Always" should be the motto of allied bomber pilots.

I really hope there is an easy fix for this.

Longjocks
10-25-2004, 04:45 PM
Flunky, I must admit that is one of the more amusing bug reports I've seen. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Stuntie
10-25-2004, 04:50 PM
Ahh, the green and grey rock strewn clouds of new Guinea. Commonly mistaken for moutains by inexperienced pilots.

CaptainFlunky
10-25-2004, 04:58 PM
Got two more;

5. It was standard U.S. navy tactics of the time to send in two unescorted avengers on strike missions well ahead of the main force to act as 'Sacrifical lambs' to make IJA pilots waste some ammo.

6. Water flows uphill on some pacific islands.

Maybe I'm nitpicking now for the sake of humor.

LEXX_Luthor
10-25-2004, 06:50 PM
Do you know how many Chinese pilots flew into mountains? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Here ~~> http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/sino-japanese.htm

and here ~> http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/otherres.htm

CaptainFlunky
10-25-2004, 06:57 PM
but LEXX, did they do it 'en masse'?...on every single mission? If so, no wonder they needed the AVG. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

weasel75
10-25-2004, 07:36 PM
7. When approaching a carrier or an airfield, *everybody* asks for permission to land. This procedure is never to be skipped, even when 16 aircrafts come in at the same time. And the asking shall not be stopped just because 12 other guys were asking before.
Tower has to answer every single incoming call, so 12x "Abort, Abort" is a valid procedure.

CaptainFlunky
10-25-2004, 07:37 PM
weasel, don't know how I missed that one.

WilliamDu
10-25-2004, 10:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CaptainFlunky:

5. It was standard U.S. navy tactics of the time to send in two unescorted avengers on strike missions well ahead of the main force to act as 'Sacrifical lambs' to make IJA pilots waste some ammo.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think that actually happened at Midway. The first few squadrons that approached the Japanese carriers went in without fighter support and were decimated by the CAP fighters.

CaptainFlunky
10-25-2004, 10:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WilliamDu:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CaptainFlunky:

5. It was standard U.S. navy tactics of the time to send in two unescorted avengers on strike missions well ahead of the main force to act as 'Sacrifical lambs' to make IJA pilots waste some ammo.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think that actually happened at Midway. The first few squadrons that approached the Japanese carriers went in without fighter support and were decimated by the CAP fighters. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're correct- VT-8, at midway en route to the Hornet. Six launched with some marine and army bombers, and five got clobbered. But I'd hazard a guess to say that the one, desperate raid by unprotected torpedo bombers was the exception rather than the rule, don't you think?

Alexi_Alx_Anova
10-26-2004, 01:21 AM
I vouche for spider tanks. I hope their seatbelts were on tight.

Alexi

Longjocks
10-26-2004, 04:28 AM
I personally think that spider tanks have been miss-represented in Pacific theatre games so far. It's about time we acknowledge the existence of this wonderful invention!