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altairego
05-06-2008, 08:46 PM
so,
let us talk about the 9 assassination targets. what do you think of them as "people"?
who do you find hardest to kill? who is the funniest in your opinion?
for me, sibrand has to be the most paranoid man i've ever met (except stalin -- that guy made an art of it, sibrand don't hold no candle to him). he is armed to the teeth and scared... he knows there is nothing awaiting him after death, no God. i think he might be the first atheist there.

ScytheOfGrim
05-06-2008, 08:48 PM
They were all awesome peoples...
Killing anyone is awesome...
Fatty was funny and therefore awesome...

Bobfish_Almight
05-06-2008, 08:50 PM
The Priest dude in Acre is seriously messed up

altairego
05-06-2008, 08:50 PM
you mean, abu nuqud. i am surprised he could run so fast -- he's dangerously obese, he should even not be able to walk up a set of stairs to the balcony he stands on. i had to sprint to catch him.

ScytheOfGrim
05-06-2008, 08:52 PM
Aaaannnd... you were expecting to be able to catch up to him by... "Blend-Walking"...? >_>

Heh, who cares!
He' an obese professional sprinter!

Bobfish_Almight
05-06-2008, 08:55 PM
A terrified obese sprinter at that. Adrenalin can do amazing things to a person. I saw an obese man, who couldn't stand for more than a few minutes at a time, lift an helicopter once

Kaxen6
05-06-2008, 08:56 PM
Sibrand was quite amusing. Killing him drove me mad though... I drowned Altair way too much... somehow chanting "Im am Altair and I am awesome" caused me to make it to the boat... O_o

Abu Nuqod was hilarious... he runs fast...

The scene where Garnier orders his guys to break legs makes me kind of shiver even the second time around. Garnier scares me... then I notice my shampoo is Garnier and start imagining Templars shaped like green bottles of shampoo...

Bobfish_Almight
05-06-2008, 09:03 PM
That works

drego5
05-06-2008, 09:13 PM
I outran my friend to the terminal at JFK. To give you some idea, she had previously considered going into the Navy. I'm about twice her size.

Never underestimate the power of the Schwartz.

Anyways, my favorite was Sibrand. I was able to stealthily dispose of him much easier than anyone else. I sadly always get noticed by Majd Addin. Talal was good, I liked that chase. Garnier de Naplouse is also particularly enjoyable. And William de Montferrat. The setup on those last two, disposing of all others in the area, to sweep their support right out from underneath them.. That's what I enjoy.

As for Jubair, I got lucky in the fact that right before the mission to get him is when I learned about reviewing the intel gathered from the Informers. He was okay.


Originally posted by Kaxen6:
Garnier scares me... then I notice my shampoo is Garnier and start imagining Templars shaped like green bottles of shampoo...
You know, when I first heard the name, that's what I thought of, too. Not people shaped like shampoo.. I just couldn't get the thought of shampoo out of my head for the first few times I murdered him.

Heh.. that's something you don't get to say every day. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (Hopefully.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif)

Bobfish_Almight
05-06-2008, 09:16 PM
Excuse me. Are you Mister Schultz?

drego5
05-06-2008, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Bobfish_Almight:
Excuse me. Are you Mister Schultz?

Qua? (Qui ya pessah? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

Who's Mr. Schultz? I'm referencing Spaceballs (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/quotes)...

Lone Starr: I still don't understand how I'm going to lift that big statue with this little ring.
Yogurt: Never underestimate the power of the Schwartz!

dacoolstas
05-06-2008, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
They were all awesome peoples...
Killing anyone is awesome...
Fatty was funny and therefore awesome...

short, simple, and to the point.

I 100% percent agree with that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Bobfish_Almight
05-06-2008, 09:35 PM
Ja Dreg, I love that film. Don't worry about the Schultz thing. It's very silly and I should just get on with it.

Killing people is, indeed, lots of fun. So much fun, in fact, that I can never bring myself to be patient enough to even think about going for a completely undetected kill. I just want to get stuck in there and massacre my way back out again

altairego
05-07-2008, 04:39 AM
bobfish, you're just like me -- murder your way out, a lane of bodies all the way to the bureau. no one has a clue how you disappeared...
still obese men should not be able to run AT ALL.
majd addin, the self proclaimed ruler of jerusalem... i can never kill him without a mess.

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 05:44 AM
I'm going to have to disagree with you there mate. Like I said, adrenalin can do some amazing things in the heat of the moment. Of course, moving like that he'd probably die of a heart attack if you didn't catch up and stick him one. But that doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to do it for at least a little while

altairego
05-07-2008, 08:22 AM
bobfish, he gets far away from me, i have to sprint for a frigging block sometimes with guards all over (even if i clean them out beforehand they always appear again god!)hey, i used to be obese, couldn't run up a stair, much less run fast.
and how come he can fight? (see end of game). he actually knows one end of the sword from another

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 08:26 AM
I'm going to let you in on a trade secret.

he can do all these things...because it's in the script. I mean, if he was so tubby you could catch him in an instant people would complain about it being too easy ja?

altairego
05-07-2008, 08:30 AM
give him more guards then.
what about Robert de Sable? he's a big guy (strong as an ox too) and he always seeks to grab and throw me (in fact all the heavily armed crusaders do) i hate that!

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 08:37 AM
Because at that time a lot of the nobles and aristocracy were gluttonous oafs. Ubi have gone to a lot of effort to make the game seem as historically accurate as they can in some ways. Unfortunately, for the sake of gameplay, historical accuracy and realism will inevitably come to loggerheads. I'm not trying to say there's nothing wrong with a dangerously obese man being able to out sprint a professional killer as clearly athletic as AltaÝr. It's just another example of the suspension of disbelief. And, let's be honest, when your largest bone of contention is a fat guy running too fast that goes to show just how good the game really is ja?

nevar23
05-07-2008, 09:33 AM
**********Spoilers ahead*************

Sibrand was my favorite assassination, though it did take a few dunks to get the pylon jumping down. There's something deliciously wicked about hanging on the side of his ship while he rants about taking care of the Assassin himself, then popping over the edge, walking up and shanking him. That helmet he wears is impressive, but a poor choice since it obviously reduced his peripheral vision to zero, hehe.

Sibrand was proof of that saying "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean everyone isn't out to get you". I liked his pre-death ruminations on the tyranny of faith as well.

I think Majd Addin was the most honest out of the bunch. He came right out and said he loved the power. It took a few tries to get the timing down to stealth assassinate him.

I liked de Sable, even though he was a pompous arse - or maybe because of it. He didn't strike me as particularly mastermind-ish, though, which was weird. He seemed more like a hardened soldier with a job to do, which begs the question, who was he reporting to?

I was annoyed with the Talal mission because there was zero chance to stealth assassinate him, but the exchange between him and Altair was interesting.

The others were fun, but those are the ones that stick out in my mind right now. Oh, and Maria was an intriguing twist.

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 09:36 AM
Well I've only done the first dude (keep forgetting his name) and Garnier so far. So I'm sticking with Garnier as my favourite so far. I have a great dislike of that kind of person in the real world so it's cathartic for me to remove such a complete ******* from the genepool of humanity even if it is only in a video-game

lostassassin123
05-07-2008, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Kaxen6:
Garnier scares me... then I notice my shampoo is Garnier and start imagining Templars shaped like green bottles of shampoo...
Why isn't there a comic about it >.<
Do it Kax http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 12:14 PM
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lostassassin123
05-07-2008, 12:20 PM
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Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 12:24 PM
Uhm, salt?

Kaxen6
05-07-2008, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by lostassassin123:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kaxen6:
Garnier scares me... then I notice my shampoo is Garnier and start imagining Templars shaped like green bottles of shampoo...
Why isn't there a comic about it >.<
Do it Kax http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good point...

altairego
05-07-2008, 01:36 PM
de sable is obviously a noble -- pomposity those days came naturally to them. and maybe all that armour which gave them a feeling of invicibility and power went to their heads.
talal knew who i was which disturbed me a bit -- did everyone know who assassins were then? cause then how come they could kill and melt away in broad daylight?

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 01:38 PM
Al Mualim tells you after your second kill.

Fear

altairego
05-07-2008, 01:44 PM
well, the guads are certainly NOT afraid of altair or the assassins.
the only time they run away screaming in fear is when all their buddies are dead by altair's hand.

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 01:48 PM
I've only ever seen them run away when there's only one left B]and[/B] I've already given him a slap

BlairCullen02
05-07-2008, 01:53 PM
Sibrand was easy to kill, I clung onto the front of the boat while he ranted on, then jumped up and assassinated him without a fight. Same goes for William, I just dropped down and stabbed him, it was easy; but it was hard to get out.

Fat man was pretty simple, I just sprinted after him and tackled his guards. Then I jumped at him and assassinated him.

Tamir sucked, although since he was my first assassination I suppose you have to get used to it.

I struggled a bit with Garnier, all those madmen getting in my way and pushing me about. I managed to get him though.

Jubair I found easier than last time: stealth assassinate the guards on roofs then lunge at Jubair.

The executioner was simple, when he stopped talking I stepped up and sliced the guy with my sword. He hadn't even executed the guys yet("Alright there, fellow Assassin?").

Robert de Sable was quite hard, he weakened me first with his Templars, who really annoyed me but counter attacking all the time. Although my way of killing de Sable sucked, I just kept countering attacks and elbowed him, which led to stabbing him with Hidden Blade. I wanted a better kill, like slashing at him with my sword, then assassinating him.

Talal, the most memorable one for me. Christmas Day it was, I remember entering his thingy and the door shutting behind me. After the chase, he only hit me with one arrow before dying.

My favourite = fat man at the present time. I loved his palace http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

altairego
05-07-2008, 01:54 PM
i think it's more than fear. they deal in blood after all and people get nervous when bodies and blood start appearing out of the blue (in altair's case, literally out of the blue sky so to speak)

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 01:56 PM
So you really can leap at people for an assassination? How?

altairego
05-07-2008, 01:57 PM
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Talal, the most memorable one for me. Christmas Day it was, I remember entering his thingy and the door shutting behind me. After the chase, he only hit me with one arrow before dying.
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he never managed to hit me. i liked the whole thing: close the door ('i don't like this.'). then "step into the light". i actually hesitate just to annoy him... his guards are good bunch to fight -- tough

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 01:58 PM
I'm making preparations to face him for the first time interestingly enough

altairego
05-07-2008, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Bobfish_Almight:
So you really can leap at people for an assassination? How?

it depends on where the victim is and you are. say, it's a templar at the bottom of a low wall. you can hang off the wall and swoop down with hidden blade.
or if it's a stationary or walking single guard you can run up and jump him. anytime you can tag someone from a higher place than they are you can jump and assassinate, pretty much.

BlairCullen02
05-07-2008, 02:04 PM
I love just jumping on a table, and lunging at my target and stealthily killing them. ^_^

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 02:06 PM
I figured as much, I just haven't had opportunity to test it yet. I spend most of my time on the rooftops. I really love flinging people off them, hehe

BlairCullen02
05-07-2008, 02:08 PM
A little bit off topic here, but I like getting a chase then taking the fight to the roof of a very tall building with a flat roof, of course. Then I can whack them off with my sword and they fall to their deaths. ^_^

altairego
05-07-2008, 02:10 PM
o yes, the pleasures of teaching flight (altair is a birdy kinda guy, he would know). unfortunately, his students do not seem to pay attention to the wing flapping part or the take off so they fail the examination.
i love the pause when the guard disappears over the edge... and then the music begins. good day's work

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 02:17 PM
Yeah. Rooftop duels are real cinematic

altairego
05-07-2008, 02:51 PM
garnier is almost sadistic in my eyes. his Hospital is like a mad house,"an institution" in modern parlance.

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 02:59 PM
The thing I noticed about Garnier is that he's not only sadistic, he's frighteningly logical about the whole process. Can you imagine the depths of depravity you would have to sink to to justify that kind of horrendous behaviour within you own mind?

altairego
05-07-2008, 08:12 PM
often the most dangerous people are ones who seem so rational and honest. how willfully blind would you have to be as well as depraved as you said bobfish to experiment on people who are "children" in your eyes?
i am glad i killed him.

Bobfish_Almight
05-07-2008, 08:25 PM
He reminds me of certain other Germen men. Real men

red_girl
05-08-2008, 04:09 AM
the funniest guy to kill was that fat one from the balcony.. I tried to kill him with throwin' knives.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif go figure... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif of course he didn't die.. so i had to chase him half of the city... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif if u ask me, i think he could've won the marathon.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

and the hardest to kill was that guy who was burnin' books(i don't remember his name). well... it wasn't the hardest to kill, but it was tricky, because there were 6 guys just like him and i didn't know which was the real 1, and i had to kill a lot...

altairego
05-08-2008, 04:34 AM
red_girl, you can only kill the targets with hidden blade. the knives spook them. but that's all.
jubair (the scholar) yea, not so much tricky as confusing -- i guess he figured altair was onto him.

red_girl
05-08-2008, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by altairego:
red_girl, you can only kill the targets with hidden blade. the knives spook them. but that's all.

i know. i knew that i wasn't goin' to kill him by throwin' a knive, but i thought it would be funny.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif actually, i was too lazy to go up there.. but then of course, i had no choice..

altairego
05-08-2008, 04:51 AM
it's funny when you throw a knife at an archer on rooftop and he doubles over. i almost want to ask soliticiously "are you alright? stomachache?"
the choking sounds they make... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

red_girl
05-08-2008, 05:21 AM
u're right!..
but i only use throwin' knives when i'm too far from the archer and he already saw me('coz i don't like to waste the knives, even though i can steal them from the guards whenever i want).. otherwise i like to sneak and kill the archers with the hidden blade. i like the sound of the blade when it's penetrating their throats.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 05:37 AM
You know, I haven't used knives at all yet

red_girl
05-08-2008, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by Bobfish_Almight:
You know, I haven't used knives at all yet
y not?

altairego
05-08-2008, 07:51 AM
red_girl, try a few counters with hidden blade. holy, they look good -- one stab, he's gone. have you noticed how some of them twitch in a undulating sort of way? i actually like to stand and watch that. what on the inside is twitching so bad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 07:53 AM
I prefer to deal with people up close and personal. Now, if it was a short stabbing knife I'd use it all the time. Oh wait, what's that thing on his left wrist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

altairego
05-08-2008, 07:58 AM
altair does have a stabbing knife -- across his back

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 08:05 AM
Aye, but can it be used for stealthy killage?

altairego
05-08-2008, 08:06 AM
no, but an open fight is up close and in your face, especially if you using a SHORT weapon.

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 08:08 AM
Can I use the kni***e to counter?

altairego
05-08-2008, 08:10 AM
if you're talking hidden blade -- yea, once you're of rank to do so.
be careful to time it right or they'll slash you.
if you mean the short blade, same answer yea, awesome blocks.

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 08:12 AM
So far all I've made use of is the hidden blade for the quick kills and the short sword for melee's

altairego
05-08-2008, 08:14 AM
how many assassinatioins have you done so far? i mean the main targets.

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 08:16 AM
Three

altairego
05-08-2008, 08:19 AM
try the short blade one of these days. works on pretty much anything -- sprays of blood are beautiful http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 08:20 AM
One day I probably will. But I have a habit of sticking with what I know

nevar23
05-08-2008, 10:03 AM
I'm still trying to get the hang of the hidden blade counter. I still get hacked to bits most of the time, but when I do pull it off it's oh so satisfying. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 10:16 AM
I'm looking forward to getting that far http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

altairego
05-08-2008, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by nevar23:
I'm still trying to get the hang of the hidden blade counter. I still get hacked to bits most of the time, but when I do pull it off it's oh so satisfying. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

satisfying don't even come close to describing it. deep down you feel an animal pleasure... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 01:03 PM
"Muwahahahahaaaa" springs to mind

BlairCullen02
05-08-2008, 01:21 PM
I enjoy using the Short Sword, to fight off multiple enemies at a time. It's so cool, and if you target someone a bit far away from you and hit X, you throw one of your knifes. It's cool, but I bet you already know...

Never tried countering with Hidden Blade, might not cos I'll forget to do it. Sometimes in real life I sneak up behind a friend and make the same noise you make when you switchblade someone. It's satisfying, and awesome.

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 01:30 PM
I'm assuming I have to progress further into the game before I can even start trying. But you can be sure once I do that's what I'll be doing. I like showing off at least as much as Alta´r does. Like, have you noticed I take every opportunity I can to say Alta´r just to show that I know how to make the ´ unlaut now?

altairego
05-08-2008, 01:34 PM
or do u just like his saying his name to yourself? eh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

altairego
05-08-2008, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by BlairCullen02:
I enjoy using the Short Sword, to fight off multiple enemies at a time. It's so cool, and if you target someone a bit far away from you and hit X, you throw one of your knifes. It's cool, but I bet you already know...

Never tried countering with Hidden Blade, might not cos I'll forget to do it. Sometimes in real life I sneak up behind a friend and make the same noise you make when you switchblade someone. It's satisfying, and awesome.

and counters on the short sword -- OW!

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by altairego:
or do u just like his saying his name to yourself? eh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Both.

Alta´r. Alta´r. Alta´r. Alta´r. Alta´r.

altairego
05-08-2008, 01:41 PM
bobfish, here's something that's been puzzling me:
have you given thought to why malik pushed altair in the beginning of the game preventing him from killing robert?
cause if he hadn't then there'd been an extra pair of hands to fight the templars and kadar might still be alive. what was he trying to do? save the destroyed creed?

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 01:43 PM
I must confess I actually missed that. Now that I have my rig tweaked to run the game properly I may just pop back and have a look at that. Plus it's been a good few weeks since I started playing, with a big gap in the middle so I've almost forgotten the beginning completely

BlairCullen02
05-08-2008, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by altairego:
bobfish, here's something that's been puzzling me:
have you given thought to why malik pushed altair in the beginning of the game preventing him from killing robert?
cause if he hadn't then there'd been an extra pair of hands to fight the templars and kadar might still be alive. what was he trying to do? save the destroyed creed?

I don't understand what you mean. When does he push him?

And I feel sorry for Malik and his brother. If I was Alta´r, I would have listened to them. I would have stayed in the boundaries.
Wouldn't it be cool if you could go through the game with Malik in one region of the city, and his brother in the other region, and Altair in another?

altairego
05-08-2008, 01:47 PM
at the beginning blair in the temple of solomon after rebert asks What do you want?
altair says after a pause Blood
and goes for him
malik shouts NO don't and pushes his left arm with the blade out away allowing robert to grab altair and throw him from the room.
remember that?
it's been bothering me.

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 01:51 PM
Well, it's no secret that Malik doesn't like our boy Alta´r. Do you think he would go so far as allowing his own brother to die just to discredit him?

altairego
05-08-2008, 01:59 PM
malik does envy him but he's not evil. he's just loyal to the creed's letter. i guess he interprets it differetly but for a moment there i thought he'd lost it. what did they have to lose? creed had been cancelled when altair walked out to robert.

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 02:01 PM
You don't have to be evil to go to extreme lengths

altairego
05-08-2008, 02:05 PM
ok, just how sadistic would you think malik has to be to sacrifice his little bro kadar because of his jealosy?

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 02:18 PM
I've seen hatred make people do some really extreme things in the real world so I'd have to say, truthfully, even a minor dislike could be enough if it's festered for a long enough time

altairego
05-08-2008, 02:22 PM
i wonder just what set the two of them off on the wrong foot. cause i think they've been like two cats on a fence for a long time now. why al mualim sent such an unlikely pair boggles the mind

Bobfish_Almight
05-08-2008, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by altairego:
i wonder just what set the two of them off on the wrong foot. cause i think they've been like two cats on a fence for a long time now. why al mualim sent such an unlikely pair boggles the mind

Another test? Either of Alta´r's skills at diplomacy or Malik's to control his temper/ambition?

nevar23
05-08-2008, 08:12 PM
My theory is that he and Malik were pals coming up through the Brotherhood. Malik says he was envious of Altair's skill, so when Altair got a little big for his britches they probably had a falling out.

And just to try to at least mention something on topic, uh, let's see... Oh! On the Jubair (sp?) mission, I take out all the "not-Jubairs" first and save him for last. I wish I could have thrown him on the fire. I hate censorship.

altairego
05-08-2008, 08:44 PM
nevar, not just one falling out. i think they've been arguing for a long time. one figures creed means this, the other it means that. al mualim is just sitting back and letting them fight it out i think.

burning jubair? that is a good idea cause i'm with you on censorship. i've had enough of it in USSR.

altairego
05-08-2008, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Bobfish_Almight:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by altairego:
i wonder just what set the two of them off on the wrong foot. cause i think they've been like two cats on a fence for a long time now. why al mualim sent such an unlikely pair boggles the mind

Another test? Either of Alta´r's skills at diplomacy or Malik's to control his temper/ambition? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you read the memory log for the solomon's temple, altair figures he has to "babysit Malik and Kadar" (his words not mine). he's loathe to share the glory as abbas notes. i'm not surprised to find altair has no friends.
diplomacy skills?! are you serious? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

nevar23
05-08-2008, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by altairego:
nevar, not just one falling out.

I meant one big falling out, followed by lots of arguing and generally irritating the **** out of each other, hehe.

altairego
05-08-2008, 08:57 PM
and kadar ends up paying.
irresponsible of both of them. so focused on kicking each other that collateral damage goes unnoticed.

Bobfish_Almight
05-09-2008, 05:18 AM
I went back and checked that first cinematic. Malik doesn't actually push Alta´r, he reaches out to grab his hand and pull him back. I do get the impression that he's deliberately tryng to throw his aim off though. Perhaps hoping that Robert will kill him and then he can have all the glory for himself. It seems that Kadar's death was just an unfortunate side effect. Plus, Malik seems to be more angry at Alta´r for not being dead than he is for Kadar not being alive if you know what I mean. And, seriously, if he could fight his own way out surely he could have helped his dear brother escape as well?

Jack_Vykios
05-09-2008, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by Bobfish_Almight:
A terrified obese sprinter at that. Adrenalin can do amazing things to a person. I saw an obese man, who couldn't stand for more than a few minutes at a time, lift an helicopter once Helecopters? Pfft. Easy, so long as it's on.
Planes are the difficult ones. Ospreys are sorta in the middle.

Bobfish_Almight
05-09-2008, 05:54 AM
Yes, very droll :P

Seriously though, it was an amazing thing to see

altairego
05-09-2008, 01:11 PM
i don't know about the glory part of it -- malik would have to think up a story as to why altair did not return when altair was the one al mualim supposedly sent (see memory log).

as for helping his brother... they were outnumbered what 4:1 and robert de sable is no small guy to take down. look at how easily he threw altair from the room.

malik IS angry that altair is alive precisely because HE IS ALIVE. the dead don't care what you think of them. the quick though...

Bobfish_Almight
05-09-2008, 01:20 PM
Well, Malik is certainly a very bitter young man

altairego
05-09-2008, 02:28 PM
could be beause he figures since he's a year older than our eagle he needs to educate altair.

Bobfish_Almight
05-09-2008, 02:39 PM
Could just be because he's a ****

red_girl
05-11-2008, 10:50 AM
yeah, but in the end, Malik turned out to be a good guy

altairego
05-11-2008, 10:56 AM
red_girl,
when malik forgave altair my jaw cracked. literally. how the hell do you forgive a guy who lost you your arm and brother? "you are not the same man that went into solomon's temple with me and so you have nothing to apologize for" SAY WHAT!?

Kaxen6
05-11-2008, 11:00 AM
I was all "D'aawwwwwww" when Altair apologized. @_@

I dunno, Altair's story does take place over a few months or something...

Actually, I have no idea how long it takes to get over a death because no one I give a damn about has managed to croak. >_> But people died more often back then...

altairego
05-11-2008, 11:10 AM
he says what he's seen these past few weeks at one point -- so say a month or two.
but malik faces up to his own fault too -- jealosy

red_girl
05-11-2008, 11:13 AM
u're right, Altairego. but he helped Alta´r in killin' Al Mualim.. he didn't do much, but he helped him. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

altairego
05-11-2008, 11:16 AM
he saved his *** when altair was almost swarmed under by the changed assassins -- man, i wonder how that felt, to kill your former brothers cause they have been changed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

nevar23
05-11-2008, 11:27 AM
I've got all kinds of love for Malik, but when he and his men started throwing knives, it annoyed me. I was enjoying the fight.

Me to Malik: Ur killin' my doods, dude!

altairego
05-11-2008, 11:31 AM
yea, i can see where knives flying in the middle of your combo kill can kinda screw up the effect.
i was grateful for the help though... killing all the assassin brotherhood by myself could give me nightmares of guilt. at least now we share.

nevar23
05-11-2008, 11:37 AM
I know what you mean. To be fair, I countered them as long as I could - trying to stay true to the spirit of the game.

I loved Altair's line "You picked a fine time to show up." Hehe.

Bobfish_Almight
05-11-2008, 11:39 AM
I did a counter on a dude out in the Kingdom earlier, and as I was finishing the move my horse kicked me in the head. It was piss funny

altairego
05-11-2008, 11:41 AM
now that you mention it, nevar, i think malik was watching and just as it was becoming too much to handle (or too little maybe? envy again?) he stepped in.
malik is one deliberate s.o.b.

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 11:49 AM
I never realised it was malik who saved him until i played the game the second time round. Duh!
I didn't even realise that Malik was the one in the beau until the second time round. I didn't even know that Malik had lost his arm until the second time round. I don't know why, I think at the beginning when Malik walked in all bloodied, I couldn't tell if he had lost his arm, it just looked badly cut. I guess in the beau I didn't notice that he only had one arm.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif What is wrong with me!!!!????

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and I'm calm again.

Bobfish_Almight
05-11-2008, 11:52 AM
Having played some more, and spoken with Malik for the third time (counting the beginning) I don't think it's entirely envy on his part. There's certainly an aspect of that, but I think to a certain extent he's disappointed in Alta´r, like maybe at some point he looked up to him as a role model, or down to him as a younger brother. But their differing interpretations of the Creed lead to a schism between them. malik is something of a thinker, he plans a lot, whilst Alta´r just steps up and does it

altairego
05-11-2008, 11:55 AM
you know what bob. you're right.
malik spends a lot of time in his bureau thinking whereas altair is the one running around (not that he does not think). they seem to know each other pretty well so maybe they used to be friends till altair decided that he's superior to anything that walks.

red_girl
05-11-2008, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by HannahIsMyName:

at the beginning when Malik walked in all bloodied, I couldn't tell if he had lost his arm,


me neither. only when i went to the bureau in jerusalem i realized that he's lost his arm.

Bobfish_Almight
05-11-2008, 12:00 PM
To be honest, Alta´r doesn't even seem arrogant to me. Brusque, and perhaps a little overconfident. But as far as we know, in his whole career he's only ****ed up once. So I think he can afford to be as cocky as he is. It never gets in the way of his job, and in fact, being a daredevil seems to help. I mean, you'd have to be a bit nuts to throw yourself of buildings without any reservations the way he does

red_girl
05-11-2008, 12:02 PM
he's the best assassin! of course he affords to be cocky. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

altairego
05-11-2008, 12:04 PM
and without any safety harness too.
bob, how many have you killed now?

Bobfish_Almight
05-11-2008, 12:05 PM
Five. I'm in Acre for my second time now, just working on all the Vantage Points, and Save Citizens and the like

altairego
05-11-2008, 12:06 PM
william of montferrat. i like his hair cut -- obviously wears a helmet.
plus altair is 25 so he's young -- cocky is prerogative of (male) youth

Bobfish_Almight
05-11-2008, 12:09 PM
I wasn't cocky at 25. But I was fat and unemployed so...

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 12:11 PM
how do u know Altair is 25?

Bobfish_Almight
05-11-2008, 12:12 PM
It says so in the manual

dacoolstas
05-11-2008, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Bobfish_Almight:
I wasn't cocky at 25. But I was fat and unemployed so...

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altairego
05-11-2008, 12:14 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

come on hanna, if you going after a guy at least find out how old he is. he looks young, does our eagle boy but he's just mature enough..

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Bobfish_Almight:
It says so in the manual

oh

Bobfish_Almight
05-11-2008, 12:16 PM
He's also 6.2" and only twelve stone

altairego
05-11-2008, 12:19 PM
only???
bob, you're... kidding me!

BlairCullen02
05-11-2008, 12:22 PM
I find it funny when Alta´r gets in a fight with all those assassins. Yet after the fight he tells Malik not to kill anyone because they are not themselves. So why the bloody hell did you do it?

And Malik may have been standing up there, unsure of what to do. Then he may have seen the light to save a former friend. He must have great accuracy, managing to kill those Assassins without hitting Alta´r.

Then again, I could have taken on those Assassins; there wasn't many.

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by altairego:
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come on hanna, if you going after a guy at least find out how old he is. he looks young, does our eagle boy but he's just mature enough..

as long as he is mature enough to satisfy then its good enough for me. I knew he couldn't be that old, he does look young.


@Bobfish Thats 6.2" and 12 stone of muscle. *quivers* just imagine...

altairego
05-11-2008, 12:31 PM
@blair: THEY attacked HIM so he defended himself. they circled behind him remember?
@hannah: that's why we like him. and he IS 25 same age as desmond. wierd how both have the same characteristics physically i mean what are the chances of 2 guys 1000 years apart...?

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 12:34 PM
I don't like desmonnd http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


But i do like Altair http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


very much so

altairego
05-11-2008, 12:36 PM
imagine all those nice viens standing out on his arms... o, man, goosebumps all over. i can't take it anymore! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

nevar23
05-11-2008, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by altairego:
@blair: THEY attacked HIM so he defended himself. they circled behind him remember?


Very important distinction, that. He obviously didn't want to kill them. The game will give you numerous non-lethal counters when defending against them, though that could be due to their difficulty level.

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by altairego:
imagine all those nice viens standing out on his arms... o, man, goosebumps all over. i can't take it anymore! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif



I know niether can i http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

he is so sexy it makes me want to rip his clothes off and do things that I won't say in case i get sent to hell


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altairego
05-11-2008, 12:42 PM
nevar, you're fighting the elite force in holy land, your own...
if i had faced something like that... psych damage irreversible.

nevar23
05-11-2008, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by altairego:
nevar, you're fighting the elite force in holy land, your own...
if i had faced something like that... psych damage irreversible.

Not to mention then killing Al Mualim, who must've been like a father to him. *Sniffle* I think Altair may need a hug.

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 12:48 PM
Ill give him a hug,or two or three.

Do you think he might need a kiss aswell? cos ill give him that aswell

altairego
05-11-2008, 12:49 PM
well, i think he saw through al mualim early -- at one point he accuses him of deception and tautological thinking. he's loyal but he ain't stupid.
if he'd listened and followed al mualim then he'd be dead -- he said as much.
i have no doubt deep down he felt he could've done something but...

altairego
05-11-2008, 12:51 PM
hmmm. he might not care much for that stuff till later. killing his brothers might upset him quite a bit.

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 12:59 PM
i know it would upset him, but we would have to make a good job of taking his mind off it, wouldn't we.

altairego
05-11-2008, 01:01 PM
love is love is love.

but anyway, who was you favourite to kill in the game?

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 01:08 PM
erm i don't know i can't remeber which person was who. I like killing the innocent. mwuhahahahaha http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif


when i played the game a second time round i just stayed in masyaf for about half an hour an killed the citizens in different ways with my hidden blade

altairego
05-11-2008, 01:09 PM
just which innocents were those exactly? and what of the guards?

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 01:13 PM
it was just the innocent people walking around masyaf and the guards in masyaf are wimps so if 3 guards are attacking me and i kill two, the other one runs away, plus there aren't many guards in masyaf.

i never lost any sync bars tho, maybe bcos i was in masyaf or bcos i was playing the game again the second time round

altairego
05-11-2008, 01:15 PM
i just run in masyaf or climb -- i do enough killing outside of it. i want a little peace somewhere. o, maybe i'll go into the garden. it's quiet.

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 01:18 PM
yeah, the gardens are very peaeful. they are ful of girls, why are the gardens full of girls?


i knock the girls over when i run into them. and the one near the stairs, i knock her down the sairs. it's fun. Altair is a bully

nevar23
05-11-2008, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by HannahIsMyName:
yeah, the gardens are very peaeful. they are ful of girls, why are the gardens full of girls?


i knock the girls over when i run into them. and the one near the stairs, i knock her down the sairs. it's fun. Altair is a bully

Those are "companions". I believe the arabic word for them is houri (sp?).

Bobfish_Almight
05-11-2008, 01:34 PM
You aren't too familiar with the history of the Hash ´ Ashin Flower?

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 01:53 PM
no im not but u have me interested now, can u explain more please

Bobfish_Almight
05-11-2008, 01:58 PM
According to the history books, they would get their newest initiates completely off their faces on marijuana (hashish, hence the name Sons of Hashish) and then send them to a garden where the fountains flowed with wine and nine (though some argue the number) celestial virgins would pander to their every sexual desire. After spending a day there they'd pass out, wake up in some far less exotic locale (their bed chambers usually) and be told that they had been given a glimpse of the afterlife they would go to if they served faithfully. it, obviously, lead to fierce, almost unbreakable loyalty to the Brotherhood

altairego
05-11-2008, 08:06 PM
that has not been proven as yet: i am reading up on assassins right now.
i am going to be my own moderator here: i started the topic and i will say ENOUGH. the joke's gone on too long. so now, let's get back to the folks you kill. or the assassins who are technically muslims.

HannahIsMyName
05-11-2008, 10:58 PM
i can't remember who everyone is. i know there is talal, tamir, garnier, robert erm, i know the is a merchant king, iv probably already said his name. ???? i don't know, i remember who everyone looks like and i can rememer the places that i have to kill them in.
Can anyone give me all nine names, in order of,
or is that asking to much? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

altairego
05-12-2008, 04:35 AM
here, hannah,
tamir, talal, garnier (shampoo), abu N'quoud, majd addin, william of montferrat, jubair, sibrand and robert de sable. and maria of course.
majd addin is my favourite aside from maria/de sable controversy. i just hate the tyrant. sibrand is a close second

red_girl
05-12-2008, 05:39 AM
wasn't Garnier the 2nd target?..
anyway.. what i wanted to say is that when i went to Masyaf to kill Al Mualim and i saw the civilians gone crazy, i enjoyed killin' some of them.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

altairego
05-12-2008, 07:48 AM
you can choose either after tamir really. there really is not a set order, except tamir being first and de sable being last.

cooldud7
05-12-2008, 06:02 PM
majd addin is my favorite he's an easy kill xD all u hav to do is blend with the scholars until u stand infront of him then u just wait for him to turn around climb and HIGH PROFILE KILL

Bobfish_Almight
05-13-2008, 12:06 AM
I still have to say Garnier is my preferred target. He was a complete ****