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Bearcat99
09-29-2007, 06:55 PM
Anyone have FIOS who had cable internet? Are there bigt differences?

buzzsaw1939
09-30-2007, 09:49 AM
I not ashamed to ask,....Whats FIOS? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

JG52Uther
09-30-2007, 09:55 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_FiOS

R_Target
09-30-2007, 11:10 AM
My brother has FIOS. His says it's jaw-droppingly fast.

Niipzu
09-30-2007, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by R_Target:
My brother has FIOS. His says it's jaw-droppingly fast.
I've no experience with FIOS, but the faster connections are overally superior to cable/dsl. I'm former adsl-customer (2/1 mbit/s) and now happy 100mbit/s user.

Not really problems with adsl, but its just so sluggish :P No way i'm going to revert to slower services. Plus my current 100/100 has a nice IPTV feature.

Bearcat99
09-30-2007, 03:09 PM
I am thinkihng of switching to it once it gets here.. they laid down the optic cable 2 weeks agao. I am thinking of dropping Comcast...

eLWood_NY
09-30-2007, 05:23 PM
At least tell Comcast you're going to FIOS. They'll give you the introductory rate of $99 a month for the all-in-one. Once the cable companies lose their monopoly on programming over land-based lines, hopefully good ole capitalism kicks in.

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-30-2007, 05:53 PM
I think you have to ask yourself if you really need it and is the price worth it. Im assuming it a good bit more expensive. As long as you got good speed you most likely dont need FIOS and probably wont be able to get the most out of it. I got very good download speed but cant use it a lot of times because so many sites cap their bandwidth. If your going to be running servers and whatnot its probably a good idea but for me I happy with my cable speed and its about 40 bucks.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/188827084.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

JG6_Oddball
09-30-2007, 06:27 PM
FASTER Up to 15 Mbps/2 Mbps
A $109 value - 1st month FREE
Just $39.99/mo. for months 2-7
$49.99

2mbps upload means you could run a 64 person server from your house http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

just enter your phone # and see if you can get it
http://www22.verizon.com/content/ConsumerFios

FASTEST Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mbps
1st month FREE
$179.95<<<<< 128 person server? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

S!

crazyivan1970
09-30-2007, 06:34 PM
Dont even think about it twice BC. Comcast needs to get their head you know out of where and upgrade their pathetic equipment. I heard only good things about FIOS internet service, not so good about TV and phone. But what do you care, you need the ISP http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

HaVok, this is for you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://i23.tinypic.com/bgzrb8.jpg

mbfRoy
09-30-2007, 07:52 PM
Keep in mind that optic fiber is also going to give you lower latency!

Bearcat99
09-30-2007, 08:48 PM
that means ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif what..?

mbfRoy
10-01-2007, 04:26 AM
lower latency = better ping http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-01-2007, 06:07 AM
More bandwidth = teh good. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Persecutor_352
10-01-2007, 10:07 AM
I'm fortunate ... I got FIOS last month, upgrading from ADSL. My provider is Verizon (not the best marketing, but the service has been rock solid so far [knocks on wood]).

My previous DSL was 1500/368 and my latency averaged in the 80s (using Speedtest.net); my monthly price was $45.00.

My FIOS is rated 15000/1500. My latency averages in the 30s and my download/upload is rock steady at the rated speed. I've had no outages. My monthly rate is $49.99.

Especially if you host games, FIOS is unbeatable.

Warning to those who may be thinking of FIOS -- particularly from Verizon -- installation charges are sneaky and the wireless router they provide (they insist that it is the only one you can use) is coax connected rather than via Cat5 cabling, meaning that your present router won't be usable. There are apparently ways around that (the Verizon-supplied router is too closely connected to Verizon for my taste and is a b**** to configure).

Hope this helps you in making up your mind. I'd not hesitate a moment to do it again but I'd be more careful in letting the installer do their thing.

One more tip; when they come to install their equipment, do not have your computer connected! Let them set stuff up on their laptop ... connect your computer later. That way there is no issue with their software corrupting your present system.

But then ... I tend to be both paranoid and cynical about such things.

ochi
10-01-2007, 10:35 AM
I've got fios (Verizon). It's faster and cheaper than the local cable (Time Warner). Not alot faster than cable, just a bit faster. My ping on Warclouds went from like 60ms to 40 ms. Main thing was its about $20 a month cheaper.

LEBillfish
10-01-2007, 11:02 AM
pffft...Comcast, Fios...........I have charter cable, next best thing to dail-up from antarctica...The dark side, primary host two tin cans and a string...!don't stick your tongue to the can!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Worf101
10-01-2007, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Persecutor_352:
I'm fortunate ... I got FIOS last month, upgrading from ADSL. My provider is Verizon (not the best marketing, but the service has been rock solid so far [knocks on wood]).

My previous DSL was 1500/368 and my latency averaged in the 80s (using Speedtest.net); my monthly price was $45.00.

My FIOS is rated 15000/1500. My latency averages in the 30s and my download/upload is rock steady at the rated speed. I've had no outages. My monthly rate is $49.99.

Especially if you host games, FIOS is unbeatable.

Warning to those who may be thinking of FIOS -- particularly from Verizon -- installation charges are sneaky and the wireless router they provide (they insist that it is the only one you can use) is coax connected rather than via Cat5 cabling, meaning that your present router won't be usable. There are apparently ways around that (the Verizon-supplied router is too closely connected to Verizon for my taste and is a b**** to configure).

Hope this helps you in making up your mind. I'd not hesitate a moment to do it again but I'd be more careful in letting the installer do their thing.

One more tip; when they come to install their equipment, do not have your computer connected! Let them set stuff up on their laptop ... connect your computer later. That way there is no issue with their software corrupting your present system.

But then ... I tend to be both paranoid and cynical about such things.
Outstanding practical information. Gold star for you in my book. Thanks for the heads up and hands on information.

Da Worfster

BaldieJr
10-01-2007, 05:52 PM
BC, who's laying down that fiber? I doubt verizon would put fiber where comcast is already present (tip: most cable systems are already fiber)

Persecutor_352
10-01-2007, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by BaldieJr:
BC, who's laying down that fiber? I doubt verizon would put fiber where comcast is already present (tip: most cable systems are already fiber)

Baldie,

Comcast is in my neighborhood (has been for years) and FIOS was installed anyway. It is clear to me from Verizon's marketing and the nature of Verizon's router that Verizon aims to provide ALL connectivity -- television, internet, and voice. You decide whether that is a good thing; but I get the impression that Verizon is directly competing with Comcast (and any other cable provider).

There is a great deal of discussion of this very issue at www.dslreports.com (http://www.dslreports.com).

FWIW.

VMF-214_HaVoK
10-01-2007, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Dont even think about it twice BC. Comcast needs to get their head you know out of where and upgrade their pathetic equipment. I heard only good things about FIOS internet service, not so good about TV and phone. But what do you care, you need the ISP http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

HaVok, this is for you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://i23.tinypic.com/bgzrb8.jpg

Your such a showoff! And thats a little overkill dont you think. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BaldieJr
10-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Persecutor_352:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaldieJr:
BC, who's laying down that fiber? I doubt verizon would put fiber where comcast is already present (tip: most cable systems are already fiber)

Baldie,

Comcast is in my neighborhood (has been for years) and FIOS was installed anyway. It is clear to me from Verizon's marketing and the nature of Verizon's router that Verizon aims to provide ALL connectivity -- television, internet, and voice. You decide whether that is a good thing; but I get the impression that Verizon is directly competing with Comcast (and any other cable provider).

There is a great deal of discussion of this very issue at www.dslreports.com (http://www.dslreports.com).

FWIW. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

our company leases fiber to verizon. i work for a cable isp.

im glad everyone is getting what they want. what concerns me is the gazillion in tax credits the phone companies got in exchange for running fiber to the home.... 10 years ago.

irritating at best.

JG6_Oddball
10-01-2007, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by BaldieJr:
our company leases fiber to verizon. i work for a cable isp.

im glad everyone is getting what they want. what concerns me is the gazillion in tax credits the phone companies got in exchange for running fiber to the home.... 10 years ago.

irritating at best.

yeah i read the big stink about that...fiber should have been at everyone door by now...the the ILEC's just milked the copper for all they could get instead of deploying the fiber like they were supposed to http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

S!

LEBillfish
10-01-2007, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by JG6_Oddball:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaldieJr:
our company leases fiber to verizon. i work for a cable isp.

im glad everyone is getting what they want. what concerns me is the gazillion in tax credits the phone companies got in exchange for running fiber to the home.... 10 years ago.

irritating at best.

yeah i read the big stink about that...fiber should have been at everyone door by now...the the ILEC's just milked the copper for all they could get instead of deploying the fiber like they were supposed to http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

S! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No joke......

Where we live, it's one of the fastest growing counties in the nation. However, at best I was getting 16,800bps on dailup...SHort distance away they were getting 56,000.

AFter a bit of arm twisting , finally received a straight answer about why we did not have fiber optic lines....It being;

"We have so much new build going on, if you're currently "paying" for service you can expect in your lifetime to never get better lines".....

Word for word....Funny huh?....Guess who's not using them any longer? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif