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O6EvolutionIXMR
05-18-2011, 08:19 AM
http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae159/EvolutionIXMR/phodfto.jpg

LoL, was at Barnes & Noble yesterday and walked by a book in the fiction isle(snicker) that had a cover I'm sure most of you would enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

RzaRecta357
05-18-2011, 08:30 AM
Haha that's hilarious.

So what's he really holding?

Inorganic9_2
05-18-2011, 08:36 AM
We know he did anyway (assuming we have no reason to doubt what Al Mualim said)

O6EvolutionIXMR
05-18-2011, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
Haha that's hilarious.

So what's he really holding?

Don't know. When I was in Italy last year on my honeymoon, I saw countless paintings & sculptures with figures holding orbs in the Uffizi gallery & Vatican museum.
I looked it up and there doesn't seem to be any information that comes up other than it symbolizing "Knowledge & Authority".
It's a bit mysterious you could say.

http://www.mormontimes.com/art...uthority-for-Mormons (http://www.mormontimes.com/article/1275/The-orb-symbolizes-authority-for-Mormons)

I've looked online and there doesn't seem to be any other study/article dedicated to them that I could find. How could something that is seen so often in classic paintings have no definite explanation?

Xanatos2007
05-18-2011, 08:57 AM
Originally spoken by Al_Mualim:
...and with it a poor carpenter turned water into wine.
Nice find.

gsosolidk
05-18-2011, 09:37 AM
Surprised that picture hasn't turned up in one of the games yet...

UBOSOFT-Gamer
05-18-2011, 09:49 AM
Just for general interest

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_apple

The golden apple is an element that appears in various national and ethnic folk legends or fairy tales.

In turksh/ottoman culture, the golden apple means an important city which had to been/ was conquered.

Like Constantinople, the golden apple was 1n 1453 or the city of Vienna in 1529 and more cities.

Drakonous505
05-18-2011, 11:00 AM
Hmm interesting that he'd be drawn or painted holding it...


Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
Just for general interest

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_apple

The golden apple is an element that appears in various national and ethnic folk legends or fairy tales.

In turksh/ottoman culture, the golden apple means an important city which had to been/ was conquered.

Like Constantinople, the golden apple was 1n 1453 or the city of Vienna in 1529 and more cities.

Interesting find

ILLusioNaire
05-18-2011, 11:56 AM
Yet there are no records giving note that Jesus possessed such a device. According to this fictious [by admittance] game series, most everybody who had great influence in the world possessed an Apple of Eden. How convenient for them.

itsamea-mario
05-18-2011, 12:26 PM
Curiouser and curiouser.

Well orbs do seem to be prevolent throughout history, hell In the UK. (and probably other places) The monarch has an orb when their coronated.

Most probably the inspiration for the Apple in AC, though i would like to know from where it originated.

German_324
05-18-2011, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by O6EvolutionIXMR:
http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae159/EvolutionIXMR/phodfto.jpg

LoL, was at Barnes & Noble yesterday and walked by a book in the fiction isle(snicker) that had a cover I'm sure most of you would enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hey i guess everyone has to grow up eventually. I mean not everyone acts like a 4 year old who is trying to say he is right.

By the way the bible has been proven over 95% right and it has scientific knowledge in it. Now tell me how are people 2000 years ago smarter than you? (snicker)

itsamea-mario
05-18-2011, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by German_324:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by O6EvolutionIXMR:
http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae159/EvolutionIXMR/phodfto.jpg

LoL, was at Barnes & Noble yesterday and walked by a book in the fiction isle(snicker) that had a cover I'm sure most of you would enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hey i guess everyone has to grow up eventually. I mean not everyone acts like a 4 year old who is trying to say he is right.

By the way the bible has been proven over 95% right and it has scientific knowledge in it. Now tell me how are people 2000 years ago smarter than you? (snicker) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wait what?
He wasn't discrediting the bible.

phil.llllll
05-18-2011, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by German_324:
By the way the bible has been proven over 95% right and it has scientific knowledge in it.

It hasn't. Don't be so quick to believe everything you read.

itsamea-mario
05-18-2011, 01:20 PM
Yeah i'd like to see some of this 'proof'.

Evan52395
05-18-2011, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by German_324:

Hey i guess everyone has to grow up eventually. I mean not everyone acts like a 4 year old who is trying to say he is right.

By the way the bible has been proven over 95% right and it has scientific knowledge in it. Now tell me how are people 2000 years ago smarter than you? (snicker)
Dude, chill out. I doubt he meant any offense by this. It just ties in with what Al Mualim said in AC1.

...these are the kind of people that make Christians seem like lunatics. I'm Christian and I see nothing insulting about this.

rileypoole1234
05-18-2011, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Yeah i'd like to see some of this 'proof'.
I am Jesus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

itsamea-mario
05-18-2011, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by rileypoole1234:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Yeah i'd like to see some of this 'proof'.
I am Jesus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wut, for reelz 0mG?!?!?!!?!?!!!11!11!1

Rakudaton
05-18-2011, 02:07 PM
By the way the bible has been proven over 95% right and it has scientific knowledge in it. Now tell me how are people 2000 years ago smarter than you? (snicker)

Wait, what?

I'm fairly sure the bible isn't even 95% consistent, let alone right. And tell me, how on earth do you go about "proving" the bible? I assume this is the religious brand of proof: "It's right because I say it is, agree or burn". Am I right?


Oh, gods. Did I just continue an argument about religion... on the internet? Thor save us!

UBOSOFT-Gamer
05-18-2011, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rileypoole1234:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Yeah i'd like to see some of this 'proof'.
I am Jesus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wut, for reelz 0mG?!?!?!!?!?!!!11!11!1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I AM Jesus!

itsamea-mario
05-18-2011, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rileypoole1234:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Yeah i'd like to see some of this 'proof'.
I am Jesus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wut, for reelz 0mG?!?!?!!?!?!!!11!11!1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I AM Jesus! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No 'I' am Spartacus!

wait, what?...

UBOSOFT-Gamer
05-18-2011, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rileypoole1234:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Yeah i'd like to see some of this 'proof'.
I am Jesus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wut, for reelz 0mG?!?!?!!?!?!!!11!11!1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I AM Jesus! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No 'I' am Spartacus!

wait, what?... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have the apple!!

O6EvolutionIXMR
05-18-2011, 03:00 PM
Can't believe someone actually got their panties in a twist over me joking that the book was in the fiction isle.
What I'm wondering is if THAT offended you, then why are you even on this forum? And did you play any of the AC games?

xsatanicjokerx
05-18-2011, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by German_324:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by O6EvolutionIXMR:
http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae159/EvolutionIXMR/phodfto.jpg

LoL, was at Barnes & Noble yesterday and walked by a book in the fiction isle(snicker) that had a cover I'm sure most of you would enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hey i guess everyone has to grow up eventually. I mean not everyone acts like a 4 year old who is trying to say he is right.

By the way the bible has been proven over 95% right and it has scientific knowledge in it. Now tell me how are people 2000 years ago smarter than you? (snicker) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

93.75% of all statics are made up on the spot...

SleezeRocker
05-18-2011, 03:44 PM
Anyone can make up a statistic.
50% of people do :P

CloudInertia
05-18-2011, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by O6EvolutionIXMR:
Can't believe someone actually got their panties in a twist over me joking that the book was in the fiction isle.
What I'm wondering is if THAT offended you, then why are you even on this forum? And did you play any of the AC games?

RIGHT!!!! they r sooo touchy about this religion. great find though. playing AC opened up new perspectives to me. "Anyone can write a book and can put anything they want in it."

http://www.lusogamer.com/live/default/gamercard_acbrotherhood/Hashshashin89.png (http://www.lusogamer.com/profile/live?gamertag=Hashshashin89)

Drakonous505
05-18-2011, 05:35 PM
Frankly people like to believe in things rather then face the reality of the world... I personally believe George Carlin has a great view on religion.

Xanatos2007
05-18-2011, 06:25 PM
While I do believe in God, I do somewhat agree with George Carlin's view on religion and the world in general.

For those of you who don't know him just spend the next few minutes/hours youtubing 'George Carlin'.

magesupermaster
05-19-2011, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rileypoole1234:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Yeah i'd like to see some of this 'proof'.
I am Jesus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wut, for reelz 0mG?!?!?!!?!?!!!11!11!1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I AM Jesus! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No 'I' am Spartacus!

wait, what?... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm Batman!

Killer-Me99
05-19-2011, 08:32 AM
So much stupidity here...

Killer-Me99
05-19-2011, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by magesupermaster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rileypoole1234:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Yeah i'd like to see some of this 'proof'.
I am Jesus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wut, for reelz 0mG?!?!?!!?!?!!!11!11!1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I AM Jesus! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No 'I' am Spartacus!

wait, what?... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm Batman! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I AM THE DEICIDE ITSELF!

fossa1991
05-19-2011, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Killer-Me99:
So much stupidity here...
I agree with you so much but i do respect people that believe.But i think religion was invented by som drunk idiots sitting around a table drinking.I would also like to point out that religion is the thing that's started all the wars.

Oatkeeper
05-19-2011, 10:26 AM
How has no one stated in this thread yet that Project Legacy and (I think) AC2 both hint that Jesus had the Shroud of Turin/Eden which gave him the ability to heal. And I remember somewhere that the templars killed him for it, but his followers took it and used it to revive him.

iN3krO
05-19-2011, 02:58 PM
the shround is not the apple ... in Ac1 al-muhalim says jesus had the apple but in both ac2 project legacy there are no mention to jesus' apple...

the_atm
05-19-2011, 03:06 PM
>.< if we can't hanndel this topic a mod is gona shut this down. now i find this interesting, and on the note of it being in the fiction section. that might be because the author guessed at what happened during that time.

O6EvolutionIXMR
05-19-2011, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by livfreorletmedi:
>.< if we can't hanndel this topic a mod is gona shut this down. now i find this interesting, and on the note of it being in the fiction section. that might be because the author guessed at what happened during that time.

LoL, it was just a joke...the part where I said it was in the "fiction" section. Then again, it was right across from a section called "Christian-fiction" which I found a bit amusing.

EnXess
05-19-2011, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by ILLusioNaire:
Yet there are no records giving note that Jesus possessed such a device. According to this fictious [by admittance] game series, most everybody who had great influence in the world possessed an Apple of Eden. How convenient for them.
Which is how they got into power, smartass. It isn't a matter of convenience it's a matter of the apple giving people the power to control. Have you not played these games?

iN3krO
05-19-2011, 04:14 PM
gandih had it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Oatkeeper
05-19-2011, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by daniel_gervide:
the shround is not the apple ... in Ac1 al-muhalim says jesus had the apple but in both ac2 project legacy there are no mention to jesus' apple...

I was not implying that the shoud is an apple. I am simply stating that jesus had yet another piece of eden, and I was surprised it was not brought up.

CFord664
05-19-2011, 07:44 PM
To quote Malik, "You can never know anything. Always expect to be wrong, to have overlooked something." I am Christian and I find this still to be true, even about Scripture. One can apply the critical eye of an Assassin even to one's own beliefs.

Secondly, Jesus, according to the series, had a Staff and the Shroud.

Wantmeaninja
05-20-2011, 12:20 AM
Sweet thread lol

knightshad0w
05-20-2011, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by magesupermaster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rileypoole1234:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Yeah i'd like to see some of this 'proof'.
I am Jesus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wut, for reelz 0mG?!?!?!!?!?!!!11!11!1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I AM Jesus! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No 'I' am Spartacus!

wait, what?... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm Batman! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am your father.

stringychris7
05-20-2011, 03:30 AM
How do you prove the bible...? Well I guess you start with is it an accurate piece of historical evidence? Do the biblical accounts match archeological evidence, are there first hand eye witness accounts of evidence, do other historical texts of the time support the accounts in the Bible and so on... If the answer is yes then you're left with a more difficult question... Who was Jesus?

Ps. Looking forward to ACR, gripping storyline. Keep it up Ubisoft!

UBOSOFT-Gamer
05-20-2011, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by knightshad0w:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by magesupermaster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rileypoole1234:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Yeah i'd like to see some of this 'proof'.
I am Jesus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wut, for reelz 0mG?!?!?!!?!?!!!11!11!1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I AM Jesus! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No 'I' am Spartacus!

wait, what?... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm Batman! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am your father. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Frocony
05-20-2011, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by daniel_gervide:
the shround is not the apple ... in Ac1 al-muhalim says jesus had the apple but in both ac2 project legacy there are no mention to jesus' apple...
are you sure he said apple? or did he say piece becuase the shroud is a piece of eden

MattOspina
05-24-2011, 02:14 PM
i thought the apple in the series was originally Jesus'.

xsatanicjokerx
05-24-2011, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by MattOspina:
i thought the apple in the series was originally Jesus'.
TWCB were the original owners