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stalkervision
03-09-2008, 03:57 PM
Anyone have an idea what is going on here?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2231/2209833235_1639a3453d.jpg?v=0

AKA_TAGERT
03-09-2008, 04:43 PM
declaration of surrender?

berg417448
03-09-2008, 04:45 PM
We are Borg. You will be assimilated.

KG66_Gog
03-09-2008, 05:13 PM
Well, its a modern picture firstly. Looks like some kind of management system. Could be testing anything really. My guess is air/vacuum.

JG51_Rudel
03-09-2008, 06:00 PM
From all the hoses it looks more like they are testing the hydraulic system of the Aircraft.

Dance
03-09-2008, 06:09 PM
They took it to a cowboy fitter, 'yes sure this pressurization system will work Herr Leutnant' (soz for the 'caption me' answer, but I'm conditioned lol)

But agree with Rudel, maybe they're bypassing the internal hydraulic lines for whatever reason?

KG66_Gog
03-09-2008, 10:08 PM
Yeah, I considered Hydraulic but would you really want all those hydraulic lines coming in to the pit right there....I'd hate to see the damage a burst hose or coupling would do to all those gauges.

Tab_Flettner
03-09-2008, 10:52 PM
Dyno testing. Check out the "Airplane on a Treadmill" thread for more info.

Redwulf__26
03-10-2008, 03:15 AM
If its a modern photo why is it black and white, and what Hydraulic systems did the 109 have ?
Undercarriage was electric screwjack type as were flaps and I believe prop pitch (or it might have been engine oil for that) Plus the hoses appear to be held on with hose clips. Might be something to do with gun operating system, which were pneumatic.

Pirschjaeger
03-10-2008, 03:36 AM
I agree with Redwulf.

Notice the apparatus seems to be on the stick, although its weight is being held by the braces of the canopy.

Could this be some sort of method for tuning (not aiming) the guns?

Where's Taylor Tony? I'm sure he'd know.

Fritz

Kettenhunde
03-10-2008, 04:05 AM
Looks to me like the compressor filling the air bottles for the weapons charging and malfunction clearing system. There are compressed air cylinders that provide enough onboard high pressure air to charge the system ~twice.

The FW190 has a similar system.

Al the best,

Crumpp

stalkervision
03-10-2008, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by Kettenhunde:
Looks to me like the compressor filling the air bottles for the weapons charging and malfunction clearing system. There are compressed air cylinders that provide enough onboard high pressure air to charge the system ~twice.

The FW190 has a similar system.

Al the best,

Crumpp

You know I think you might be right about this..

F16_Neo
03-10-2008, 05:33 AM
Aaahh so that's how the AI pilot looks unmasked!

rnzoli
03-10-2008, 05:42 AM
a secret test combining the pilot's relief tube and the MW50 booster system

stalkervision
03-10-2008, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by rnzoli:
a secret test combining the pilot's relief tube and the MW50 booster system

Not likely Ronzoni... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

luftluuver
03-10-2008, 06:31 AM
Where was this compressed air bottle located in the 109 and 190?

Kettenhunde
03-10-2008, 10:27 AM
Where was this compressed air bottle located in the 109 and 190?

It's part of the SVK/SDK weapons control system.

On the FW190 it is located just underneath the weapon mounts. It fits sideways in a mount and actually passes through the MG131 mounts. I don't know where it is on the Bf-109 but I imagine its location is similar to the FW190.

Haigotron
03-11-2008, 03:39 PM
One of the first versions of a breathalyser lock: the pilot sits in the cockpit and has to exhale slowly in the breathalyser unit in front of him for a few seconds. If he's drunk, the tube connected to the engine locks the plane and it cannot take off. Prevents drinking and flying, very effective, it's one of the reasons Goering could never personally test a plane.

Schwarz.13
03-11-2008, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Haigotron:
it's one of the reasons Goering could never personally test a plane.

The other reason being he couldn't fit in a bomb-bay nevermind a fighter cockpit...

stalkervision
03-11-2008, 04:46 PM
psss...it's an experimental autopilot system for the 109. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Rood-Zwart
03-11-2008, 04:53 PM
I vote for baby Cthulhu http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Lead-Brick
03-12-2008, 06:26 PM
I think you will find that it is probably a devise for engine injector tuning. A mechanic would be able to keep an eye on the RPM and boost guages as he dailed in the correct fuel-air and ignition settings. I worked for a while as a bike mechanic and we used similar gear to set up the carbs and butterflys on the bikes

Viper2005_
03-12-2008, 08:10 PM
+1 for the gun charging idea, though I must admit that my first guess was that it involved the interrupter gear.

Kettenhunde
03-13-2008, 05:34 AM
my first guess was that it involved the interrupter gear.

That would seem logical!

Remember though the waffengeber's are electrical solenoids. There is a single gear on the BMW801 that essentially runs a distributor to the electrical fired guns.

All that has to be timed with the propeller mounted. There is a large pressboard wheel just for that purpose that mounts in the propeller shaft with all the timing marks.

The DB's also had a very similar electrical system. In fact the components are made by the same folks.

If it was weapon synchronization, I would image the propeller would be mounted and the timing wheel attached.

All the best,

Crumpp

M_Gunz
03-13-2008, 06:38 AM
Whatever it is it seems they needed to see results while able to do somethings with the
cockpit controls else why put that unit in the pit?

stalkervision
03-13-2008, 06:56 AM
I believe the key is in that cockpit device...