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ROTC4612
02-12-2005, 05:30 PM

CreaseKeeper
02-12-2005, 05:35 PM
It's one thing if keeping enemy fighters from taking off will accomplish a mission goal, but in a dogfight server it's pretty much lame.

Usually the guys vulching on a dogfight server have no skills and can't get a kill any other way.

-CK-

BSS_CUDA
02-12-2005, 05:55 PM
shoot him down!!! nothing make me smile more than shooting down a vulcher then killing his @ss after he bails when I shute kill him for vulching, my favorite target on GG is a well known vulcher ( he knows who he is http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif ) he's one of the leading kills pilots, but he has ZERO dogfighting skills http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif, if you get on his six he'll fly in a straight line and hardly try to evade. I mean we are talkin SERIOUS suckage as a pilot in the skills department, when I see him in the game I know exactly where he's heading and set up to jump him when he shows up, and I do agree that Vulching is a no skill part of the game ( this guy is a prime example, his k/d ratio is good but its easy pickins shooting planes on the ground, but it is part of the game none the less, unless the server rule forbid vulching then you need to deal with it

Siwarrior
02-12-2005, 05:56 PM
I don't mind people vulching me but i don't vulch.
I just think that they have no skills.

Si

fherathras
02-12-2005, 05:57 PM
I think wulching is ok, as long as its only on takeoff.



besides, what else is there to do in my a-20, when all the tanks are so darn well camouflaged? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Flakenstien
02-12-2005, 05:58 PM
I fly in a few servers where this practice is allowed and I don't mind it a bit, except.......

When the vulcher does just that circles and waits for you to spawn (which is usally in a pile of smoke,fire and remnents of you previous aircraft) not only is it annoying but makes it near to impossible to even start your engine and it causes a major amount of lag when your trying to start your engine engulfed in flame.
Funny thing is they are the first to complain when you return the favor and blast them as soon as they spawn!
If your going to vulch at least wait until the other pilot has the plane started so they can move out of the mass of smoke and fire before being shot again

VF-29_Sandman
02-12-2005, 06:02 PM
any1 can shoot dirt. but dropping a bomb in the cockpit requires a little bit of skill. it takes 18 yrs to make a man, and the object of war is to make the other bastid die before he kills u with any means possible. but in a game, it's a tad lame. especially if the field doesnt have any aaa around.

3.JG51_BigBear
02-12-2005, 06:22 PM
When Il2 first started the vulching was a major issue. Over the years it has become more accepted as a valid tactic. Most servers now provide plenty of AAA around airbases to make vulching extremely hazerdous and the rapid fire stuff does a nice job of pinpointing the vulchers position so if they're willing to fly through all that I say let them vulch. I used to do it all the time but I found myself getting wasted more often than not.

VW-IceFire
02-12-2005, 07:03 PM
1)Its war....deal with it.

2)Its a legitmate tactic only if the server rules allow for it. The rules are the rules of engagement...so I abide by them. If full vulching is allowed then you can bet yourself that if I get the chance, I will mow down every aircraft on base. If the rules prohibit it then I will abide by that as well.

3) Most servers that allow vulching also present several bases that your team can take off from. Use an alternate base to take off, gain altitude, and regain CAP around the first base so that the vulchers can't continue their operation.

4) A number of smarter map designers and server admins place a small but effective number of AAA emplacements (preferably inside concrete and sandbag fixtures) to keep vulching counter balanced with a barrage of fire. Then only the crazies like myself would consider facing the barrage http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

EnGaurde
02-12-2005, 07:04 PM
meh

change to a different airfield.

then theyre usually so engrossed looking for spawn targets on the ground you can enfilade them relatively easily.

lack o'skills? naah not necessarily. I think its just a case of easy kill syndrome.

pauldun171
02-12-2005, 07:06 PM
Multiple bases per side solves the problem with vulters.

I have no problem with it, but I prefer not to do it.

VMF223_Smitty
02-12-2005, 07:10 PM
I'm annoyed with polls http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Feathered_IV
02-12-2005, 07:26 PM
I had my first try at deliberate vulching last night on Zeke Vs Wildcat when I took out a SDB that was just starting to roll. It was okay, but didn't feel like I'd earned the Kill. I probably won't be doing it again.

This morning though, shooting down a P-40 in a Val that tried to vulch ME - That was pretty satisfying http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

ElAurens
02-12-2005, 08:27 PM
Shooting the same aircraft repeatedly is not good.

Supressing your enemy by killing him on the ground is perfectly valid however.

TriggerHappy57
02-12-2005, 08:33 PM
When I decide to go on a ground pounder run at the enemy base to take out some targets, I vulch the planes that may be an immediate threat, this way on my way back to base I wont get attacked. I expect the enemy to do the same to me. The only real problem occur when you have people just totally focused on spawn killing the enemies planes in my opinion. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

EnGaurde
02-12-2005, 09:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> but dropping a bomb in the cockpit requires a little bit of skill <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

HA

i recall a mission, not so much vulching, but while in the ZvW server an SBD i was chasing vanished into the sun, and after a bit o squinting and searching I decided to land and respawn for ammo.

id just taken off, raised ge... blam.

busted everything, smoking, oil on canopy, no aileron control, wounded.

i thought id been hit with a p39.... then i saw the ship tracers feeling for a rapidly fleeing high speed SBD.

yeah, bombing is valid, but then again i guess so is strafing.

what would be interesting is if the emeny could kill the spawn on an airfield by doing enough damage....

EmbarkChief
02-12-2005, 09:06 PM
I'll drop some ordnance on aircraft about to take off but that's it and that doesn't happen very often. I do remember about a year ago I droped a 1000 pounder right in the cockpit of a zero spooling up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Had about a 2 sec delay on it and I bet the guy had just enough time to shead a tear before it went off. No guns on grounded planes, where is the sport in that?

ElAurens
02-12-2005, 09:13 PM
Sport?

This isn't a game....

VF-29_Sandman
02-13-2005, 01:02 AM
then u whine when bases' are set up to make it as hard as possible to survive a strafing run from all the aaa fire, yet show no teamwork in aaa suppression. panzy's just hover over a strip and no1 on that strip can take off. no-skill noobs vultch.

Longjocks
02-13-2005, 02:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-29_Sandman:
it takes 18 yrs to make a man <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's cetainly debatable. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Monson74
02-13-2005, 03:26 AM
If the server/host allows it - fine with me. If you find it annoying why don't you work together & cover the airfield? Teamwork makes IL2 much, much, a lot much, more, many times more fun.

Monson74
02-13-2005, 03:39 AM
Speaking of teamwork... why, oh why do you bomber-boys always race out on your own at full speed instead of ganging up? You'll do much better in a formation. But that's a different issue - I know.

Indianer.
02-13-2005, 04:09 AM
"Its war deal with it"

i remember in the early days people would make soo much out vulching and cry and cry throughout the whole session about the vulcher.

I think that its fine to shoot up an A/C thats landing and i am quite happy to do that.

I do vulch A/C sat ready for take off or taking off but i wouldnt really circle around waiting for the same person to spawn again and again.

As for the skill....i believe it takes quite a lot to vulch as most vulchers get a little excited and plough straight into the ground.

In fact i would say its an art form http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The worst thing i had done to me was 3 P39s vulching our HE111s over and over again lol.

CKY_86
02-13-2005, 04:52 AM
i dont mind vulchers & i vulch planes taking off when server allows it

but i agree that it is kind of anoying when youve got gear down flaps down just about to land & then you get blown into a gazilion pices http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

biut as the ol saying goes 'what goes around comes around' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Hoatee
02-13-2005, 04:53 AM
Vulchers are annoying but valid.

VF-29_Sandman
02-13-2005, 05:25 AM
maybe these servers need to adjust the aaa to make it more suicidal. ring the spawn points with a bunch of .50 cal's, or even better...some type96x3 aaa cannon,some axis bofors....that will give the vulchers some problems. if they hit, they will hurt. if u want to vultch like rl, then set base defenses like rl. and we all know that attacking bases with fighters was hairy at best, suicidal at worst. alot of planes went down just from attacking bases. if it causes lag, tough. then stay away from the bases' ring of fire, or attempt ur lame excuse for kills by flying thru a hailstorm of lead. u might make it thru the 1st time, but to try it again or to hover...suicide. all my bases are set up viet cong style, and the 'golden bb' just might cut yer control cables. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

ROTC4612
02-14-2005, 09:47 PM
Hey guys, thanks for all of your feed back, i appreciate it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Aztek_Eagle
02-15-2005, 03:08 AM
one time a buddy and i, in p38, loaded wiht bombs and rockets, got more than 30 kills in less than 30 minutes in a gratergreen atack, in a base atack sortie,,, u did not intercep 2 slow flying full loaded p38s... ur fault not ours... jajajaj

Blue-Lexus
02-15-2005, 05:22 AM
Depends on the server. Being vulched on War Clouds with a death kick for 5 mins can be a little annoying

VF-29_Sandman
02-15-2005, 06:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aztek_Eagle:
one time a buddy and i, in p38, loaded wiht bombs and rockets, got more than 30 kills in less than 30 minutes in a gratergreen atack, in a base atack sortie,,, u did not intercep 2 slow flying full loaded p38s... ur fault not ours... jajajaj <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ur 1st primary should be the aaa. mebby gg's will wake up to this fact, and ur next trip will have a little surprize for those vunerable allison's. try that in any of my maps, and i can guarentee u u'll go after the aaa 1st..not 2nd. if it lags, tough. stay out of the ring of fire, or learn to deal with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Bearcat99
02-15-2005, 04:27 PM
AFAIC it's all a part of the process. When a bae is getting vulched thats when the side being vulched has to get together and work as a team.... spawn at another rbase and go kick ace!!

HellToupee
02-15-2005, 05:24 PM
i do a bit of vulching with time delay bombs and straffing, in a b25 once some one was vulching us so i just jumped in the gun turret and shot down one as he went after a guy next to me and then shot down another as he chased a friendly low overhead http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Tallyho1961
02-15-2005, 06:46 PM
It's not war - it's a computer flight/combat sim.

Shooting up an a/c that's just spawned, or just taken off and is low and slow, doesn't seem to accomplish much to my mind other than to rack up an irrelevant 'score'.

If I'm going to get shot to pieces - which happens far too often - I'd rather it was as a result of being outflown by a superior pilot, not just some rube who lines me up when I'm starting up or taxiing.

I'm just not sure what such behaviour accomplishes beyond cheap gratification. If you need to demolish a/c that badly, why not just do it offline? Isn't the whole point of online combat to test your skills against other virtual pilots?

OK - no more rhetorical questions.

dgaggi
02-15-2005, 07:47 PM
Although I'm not prone to be a vulcher. I will take the kill if it's there. Frankly, if your not smart enough to pick another field after getting vulched on the first time, then you've other issues to deal with too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif War is hell and so is Darwin's law.

Latico
02-15-2005, 09:18 PM
If the server has no rules against it and sufficent AA AAA has been provided around the base to make vulching hazardous, I see no problem with it. Attacking aircraft on the ground and/or taking off was done in RL during war time.

I genreally fly the Z vs W server do to the mixed tasks of the mission maps. I also normally fly the SBD as a ground pounder. If I re-spawn during a time that our base is under attack I ussually jump to the back seat and take my shots at the attacking planes. These base attacks usually don't last that long so it's normally just a matter of hold on until it's over. Yeah, sometimes my planes gets plastered during these attacks......oh well. I'll return the favor if I get the chance. hehehehe http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

SHAKER214
02-16-2005, 12:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> no-skill noobs vultch. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey...... I'm a No- skill noob, and I don't Vulch! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Of Course... I'd probably miss if I tried http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

SHAKER

FRAGAL
02-16-2005, 03:17 AM
My two cents is if server allows do it, as you never heard Churchill whinging to goering saying "pls don't shoot at my planes as there taking off!!! it's not fair" and vice versa "plz don't shoot at mein planes mister churchill i can't get my new ME262's off ze ground" it's war deal with it.
Personally though i won't use guns on a ground aircraft but rockets or bombs i'll use whenever i feel like it, and if your wheels are off the deck your fair game.
i call it suppressing reinforcements but nothin better than droppin a 2 sec TD 500lb and watching as it rips the tail off a plane thats already moving kinda funny to http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
S!

HotelBushranger
02-16-2005, 03:57 AM
^^^
Hehehe
What I would love see is someone taking off, and a bloke at a 45 degree angle to him skip-bomb a 500 riight into his belly! Now THAT would be funny! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ElAurens
02-16-2005, 05:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tallyho1961:
It's not war - it's a computer flight/combat sim.

Blah blah....

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

On the vast majority of servers I fly on a script is running, hence there are mission goals to achieve. These are attrition servers. Winning the mission is the goal. Beyond the usual AAA, Tank, Ship, or Car, targets there are also Planes/Pilots. The faster you attrit your enemy's targets the better. So, if this means shooting him on the ground, or taking off, or even hanging in is parachute, so be it.

And being a "computer flight/combat sim", it is a simulation of war, and as we all know war is not pretty.

This "Knights of The Air" pseudo chivalry is pretty laughable stuff.

WOODY01
02-16-2005, 07:03 AM
Well for all your 'mission objectives' and 'it war deal with it' I find it rude, I would never vaulch someone ever (but I will proform a nice little airshow above them) weather the server allowed it or not, Id rather fight them in the air, mind you I couldnt give a rats a$$ about others 'morals' but I get great satisfaction from shooting down manouvering targets rather that sitting ducks, I guess its down to what your about, if its 'about the mission' and 'but its war' then good on you, but I know any kills I get will be hard earned.

Tallyho1961
02-16-2005, 09:55 AM
Well said, Woody01. And to each his own, of course. If chivalry was an aircraft, no doubt some would vulch it, too.

That probably qualifies as pseudo-philosophy. Guilty as charged. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

M-o-a-b
02-16-2005, 10:16 AM
I vulch, I vulch alot, but I do normally drop 500lbs on the AA the first time out.

And on servers were vulching isn't allowed, or when I am feeling nice, I just turn on the tip smoke and buzz the guy on the ground.

fordfan25
02-16-2005, 02:43 PM
iv been doing it on the ZvsW server with the JP float plane base. but only because every one else seems to. personlay i dont like it. unless its someone comeing in for a landing then its all fair to me. every now and then ok but when its just over and over it gets old. its a hard thing not to do though lol.

My fav was the time i saw a guys takeing so i just flew over hi and was going to let him up but just as i was turning away he got a lucky hit just as he was getingt air born Grrrrrrr.

VF51_Flatspin
02-16-2005, 11:02 PM
Strictly an attack/bomber pilot here...I vulch. But only on even numbered days between 9pm and 12am EST, the rest of the time I suppress enemy air activity. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I think there's good vulching form and bad like anything else. Good form would be: swoop in fast, strike hard once, get the blazes out of there. Bad form would be circling about popping the same guy over and over and over and...you get the picture.

Atomic_Marten
02-17-2005, 06:46 AM
Voted first option after some thinking. I'd say any position vulching yes and vulching no can be defended, but after some thinking strafing enemy planes on ground is advantagem almost in the same manner as BnZ is advantage, if we are allowed to exaggerate things a bit. So 1st option.

By the way you will see that very rarely on historic servers with some goals to achieve, other than just be 1st placed on the score list http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Atomic_Marten
02-17-2005, 06:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-29_Sandman:
maybe these servers need to adjust the aaa to make it more suicidal. ring the spawn points with a bunch of .50 cal's, or even better...some type96x3 aaa cannon,some axis bofors....that will give the vulchers some problems. if they hit, they will hurt. if u want to vultch like rl, then set base defenses like rl. and we all know that attacking bases with fighters was hairy at best, suicidal at worst. alot of planes went down just from attacking bases. if it causes lag, tough. then stay away from the bases' ring of fire, or attempt ur lame excuse for kills by flying thru a hailstorm of lead. u might make it thru the 1st time, but to try it again or to hover...suicide. all my bases are set up viet cong style, and the 'golden bb' just might cut yer control cables. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BTW I totally agree with this opinion.

tralkpha
02-17-2005, 02:44 PM
i dropped a pair of sc2000 with 5 sec delay from about 5km on an empty ramp area once.
a p47 spawned while the bombs were falling. his engine had just come to life when the bombs hit.

yeah i know thats the most widely accepted form of vulching.
as far as getting vulched the only vulching that annoys me is the repetitious kind

raisen
02-18-2005, 06:54 AM
I can see the point on a server where you have a mission. But on a DF server it is simply low. The on eexception being strike planes/fighter bombers, where this is part of their regular diet.

Raisen

Aztek_Eagle
02-18-2005, 06:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-29_Sandman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aztek_Eagle:
one time a buddy and i, in p38, loaded wiht bombs and rockets, got more than 30 kills in less than 30 minutes in a gratergreen atack, in a base atack sortie,,, u did not intercep 2 slow flying full loaded p38s... ur fault not ours... jajajaj <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ur 1st primary should be the aaa. mebby gg's will wake up to this fact, and ur next trip will have a little surprize for those vunerable allison's. try that in any of my maps, and i can guarentee u u'll go after the aaa 1st..not 2nd. if it lags, tough. stay out of the ring of fire, or learn to deal with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

we are not dum, our atacks are coordinated to eliminate first any treat of aaa, and aerial oposition, then vulch

TAGERT.
02-18-2005, 06:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ROTC4612:
Hey everyone!
I was playing online today looking to have some fun. To my surprize evertime i set up for a takeoff id get shot to bits. Im ok with it but it happened about seven times. So i moved to another base and it continued. Now i've done vulching on occasion but repeated attacks seem to make it alot less fun for the guys on the ground and cant even get up to fight. But hey it is war after all. Im not complaining i just wanted to see how others felt about this topic. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Its war, deal with it

PF_Coastie
02-18-2005, 09:35 PM
The question is far too vague. There are many situations where it would be fine and just the same it is just lame.

In a scripted server with a mission or goal I think it is fine if done by bombers or jabo.

In a pure dogfight server, it is nothing more than a point whoring, no skill tactic.

I personally can not stand it if done by a fighter. Bombers I will except, but not fighters.

The biggest vulch of all that really torques me is this:

Coop mission with a set goal and task for each plane/flight. Pilots ignore the mission objective, find the enemy base and wait for crippled and/or unsuspecting planes to return from a hard fought battle. Then they are shot as the wheels touch down by a cowardly pilot looking for max kills who did nothing to contribute to the original objective.

Ok, I feel beter now!

Blackdog5555
02-19-2005, 11:21 AM
This is not war..this is a game..duer. some ppl like to pick the wings off of insects and kicking puppies cuase its "good sport". Vulching a lame no skill tactic. I dont vultch bcause its for teenage pussies only. I dont go to vulching servers either. and who cars. LOL. IMO. Cheers.

Da_Godfatha
02-19-2005, 04:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blackdog5555:
This is not war..this is a game..duer. some ppl like to pick the wings off of insects and kicking puppies cuase its "good sport". Vulching a lame no skill tactic. I dont vultch bcause its for teenage pussies only. I dont go to vulching servers either. and who cars. LOL. IMO. Cheers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bet you fly only the Spitfire on Wonder Woman servers? No skill? You don`t know nothing little girlie!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

raisen
02-22-2005, 08:10 PM
I'm not saying that Vulching is cheating, but in my opinion, it's a little like the cheating or team killing on Counter Strike, or any game for that matter.... Why do people do that ? It kind of voids the reason for the game. Simply put, it's about ruining other peoples experience of the game, and it's about excluding "outsiders".

I thought the point of IL2/FB/PF etc was dogfighting on DF servers.... Not keeping the newbies from even taking off. Vulching, and the separate issue of cheating simply strike me as being anti social.

Raisen

Badsight.
02-22-2005, 09:40 PM
in a one-enemy-base DF room i once joined i held the entire side up on the ground vultching them all repeatedly in a IL2-2M late

by the time all ma ammo was used up i had 1800 points & friendly escourt protectors all the way home

Shawdawg
02-24-2005, 10:21 PM
I'll say this about vulching. I'd maybe do it once or twice to a guy on the ground taking off to supress them, and a lot on guys landing.

The main reason being, I like to fly like a WWII pilot, this being a WWII game, and a whole lot of pilots got kills by getting a guy as he was landing.

Most 262 and 163 kills came in that fashion.

Blackdog5555
02-24-2005, 10:45 PM
Geez, Da Godfatha, Im laughing at you. obviosly i pissed-off a teenage ***** who like to pick the wings off of insects when he's not vultching. LOL, Im a Yank so you can catch me in a Hog or a Pony. If you you would like to discuss your fear of Spitfires I can suggest a good Psychotherapist. LOL. Sucker! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

CreaseKeeper
02-24-2005, 11:15 PM
Everyone one has their motives for why they fly. For some it's JABO, for others it's the challenge of the fight, for many its seeing fire, smoke andplanes explode even if they have to do it on a pretty much helpless plane.

Vulching in a DF server pretty much shows a no talent hack IMHO, but we all know the sayings about opinions, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I fly for the fun of the fight. Hell, i guess I'm old school, because after an intense fight, I've let a wounded plane RTB after he's disengaged. Just cuz the fight was so much fun. I don't feel the need to chase him down and finish him off to make myself feel good.
It's all about what gets you off I guess.

-S-

ronison
02-25-2005, 12:26 AM
Personly I dont see the point in doing this. It defetes the purpose of the game. If you dont let your opponent get airborn then you are not dog fighting you are simply siting back staying safe. To me the game is about mixing it up with the enemy.

Now one time I did something that I guess could be conciderd vaulcing but I dont personly think so. I was in a dog fight over the enemys air field and got my elevator shot out while in a fairly steep dive. Well I looked do a bit to one side and saw 2 enemy aircraft that had spawned not too much sooner than when I got shot up. I aimed for them and ended up taking out both aircraft. Of course as for myself ... I was dead. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

The190Flyer
02-25-2005, 07:44 AM
I think that vulching is ridiculous http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif What I dislike it that a plane sitting in a stationary spot is gunned down with loads of cannons and machine guns, I just can't stand it!
However, when I get vulched with guns or rockets, I enjoy it very much so, I think it's hilarious when that happens, to me, it also shows me that the pilot who bombed me has some skill.

Sparky401SQD
02-25-2005, 04:00 PM
Yeah vulching is annoying sometimes, but i accept it as part of the game, if you're in a squad usually your teammates will provide CAP. If i cant take off I like jumping in a bomber ball turret and shooting at vulchers, couple hits and they're smoking with a interesting trip home. If taking off problem and they're behind ya i have dropped a bomb on my runway getting them in the blast.(works about 5% LOL)