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stalkervision
02-23-2010, 09:51 AM
Just a fun thread.

Remember after ww 2 when nato and the west started giving the USSR's aircraft slightly derisory names such as "Fishbed".."Frogfoot" ect..even Russian Radar and SAM and Rocket systems have them btw. Subs too..!

Here is your chance to rename the USSR's fighters of ww 2 and earlier the very same way. Whatever soviet military equipment you can think of in fact from that time.

Have fun. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


This site might help you out to start..

http://translate.google.com/tr...sc%2Fram%2Fnato.html (http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=sv%7Cen&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ctrl-c.liu.se%2Fmisc%2Fram%2Fnato.html)

AndyJWest
02-23-2010, 10:11 AM
Of course, we Brits gave our own aircraft derisory names sometimes. As much as I love the Walrus, I think naming it after something a little better-looking would have improved its image (preferably something that could actually fly).

Back on topic, I dunno. I-153 = Flutter, I-16 = Fidget, IL-2 = FogHorn, Pe-2 = Pipsqueak? As for the Yaks, well, what's wrong with 'Yak'? Anyway, by the time recognition became an issue, we were (nominally) allies, so being rude about Soviet aircraft wasn't quite the done thing.

M_Gunz
02-23-2010, 10:34 AM
Mitchell wasn't too happy about the name Spitfire. I think before that it was going to be Shrew and I have
one old British film (as video) where they end saying things like "a Shew-Bond drive" and how they could
have lost the war.

I don't think that the Nato names were supposed to be insults per se, just easier to remember.

TheGrunch
02-23-2010, 10:38 AM
"Just the sort of bloody silly name they would choose!"

TinyTim
02-23-2010, 10:59 AM
Walrus takes the cake indeed! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I also always liked the Ryan FR "Fireball", nice nickname for a fighter! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Anyways, for fun:

I-15: Fatty
I-16: Fool
Lagg: Fiasco
MiG: Feckless
La-5: Fiver
La-7: Fancyful

IL-2: Brute
Pe-2: Burner
Pe-8: Backfire
IL-4: Buttock
TB-3: Bloodbath

na85
02-23-2010, 11:18 AM
Pretty sure that for a prop driven craft you are supposed to use 1 syllable words. 2 syllables denotes a jet driven craft.

See Tu-95 Bear vs Tu-160 Blackjack

VF-17_Jolly
02-23-2010, 11:46 AM
That doesn't work because you have the
Tu-16 Badger and M-4 Bison

Other than the obvious f=fighter ,b=bomber ,c=cargo h= helicoter there seem not to be a nameing convention it seems to me that Nato just seem to pick a name at random

Is M . Multi-purpose or Miscellaneous?

An il-76 candid with a Awac dish becomes a A-50 Mainstay

na85
02-23-2010, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
That doesn't work because you have the
Tu-16 Badger and M-4 Bison

Both of those are Jet driven AFAIK so I don't see the problem?

TinyTim
02-23-2010, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by na85:
Pretty sure that for a prop driven craft you are supposed to use 1 syllable words. 2 syllables denotes a jet driven craft.

See Tu-95 Bear vs Tu-160 Blackjack

That's true if we stick to the rules of NATO nomenclature. However, I took a liberty of only sticking to the F=fighter, B=bomber rule.

VF-17_Jolly
02-23-2010, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by na85:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
That doesn't work because you have the
Tu-16 Badger and M-4 Bison

Both of those are Jet driven AFAIK so I don't see the problem? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yup your completely correct and apparently i cannot tell a syllable from my elbow i was seeing badger as one word http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

Outlaw---
02-23-2010, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
...i was seeing badger as one word


I'm pretty sure that badger is a single word.

--Outlaw.

VF-17_Jolly
02-23-2010, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Outlaw---:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
...i was seeing badger as one word


I'm pretty sure that badger is a single word.

--Outlaw. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
yes but two syllables Bad-Ger

I see what Na85 is on about

ie Coot ,Cub and **** are prop where as Candid ,Bison and Brewer are jet

R_Target
02-23-2010, 09:53 PM
P-39-"Free"

Waldo.Pepper
02-23-2010, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by R_Target:
P-39-"Free"

P-39 - Friable.

Vexicles
02-23-2010, 11:20 PM
p-39 - Flatspin

Skunk_438RCAF
02-24-2010, 04:15 AM
What no MiG-28?

VF-17_Jolly
02-24-2010, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by Skunk_438RCAF:
What no MiG-28?

Of course The MiG-28 Fiction

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/1-1_MIG-28.jpg

FlatSpinMan
02-24-2010, 07:33 AM
I-16 Flatulence