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kingjmes
05-28-2007, 09:40 AM
would it be possible to take out ur target with out any1 knowing and finding out so u dont have to try to escape???

MoveMeant
05-28-2007, 10:02 AM
well i quess not. or... there will maybe be some kinda stealth mission where you will have to infitrate a fortress more or less unseen.. but in a mission like the one seen in the gameplay demo i think you have to kill him somwhere where it goes notticed.. sorry for bad english, well its not my first language.

Barthe7ruth
05-28-2007, 10:21 AM
I don't see how they could NOT have a stealth system. I mean, I know the whole crowd thing is the main point, "hiding in plain sight" and all, but that can't work all the time.

trojanfoe
05-28-2007, 10:42 AM
It was part of their "policy" to assassinate in public, so if the developers are as true to realism as they claim to be, I'm guessing all the assassination missions will involve targets in public.

kabura786
05-28-2007, 10:43 AM
well there trying to be historically accurate and these ppl wanted everyone to know there were even some instances back then when an assassin would kill the target and he wouldn't even try to escape since he didn't care if he died as long as the job was done so i think there will always be some type of escape and hey u never know some escape's might be incredibly easy, one second ur out and about the next you slice someones throat then the next second u slip away up and over a building to the other side out of the guards line of sight then down the alleyway and u just happen to find ur monk buddy's n chill with them for a bit to slip back to were u need to go hehe

Boromir323
05-28-2007, 11:02 AM
Wouldnt that kinda kill the game? I mean it looks like most of the action is going to be in escaping anyway so if you dont have to, it seems to me there wouldnt be much gameplay involved.

kabura786
05-28-2007, 11:57 AM
well im assuming most of us are going to play the game through more than once and every time i would probably go through it in a different way each time

rubent1981
05-28-2007, 12:32 PM
The assassins could kill someone without anyone to see it happen , But thats not what they wanted, They made their kills in public to strike fear amongst people. And to let eveybody know they could kill anyone, everywhere, on any time.

Anicrow
05-28-2007, 01:24 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif Best way to put it.

AmitySnowman
05-30-2007, 07:28 AM
They made their kills in public to strike fear amongst people. And to let everybody know they could kill anyone, everywhere, on any time.

Although this is true, would it not strike fear into people to think that someone can get into your home and kill you in your bed as you sleep.

Personally I could live without any night time silent missions because like people say the day stealth and social stealth is what makes AC different from every other "under the cover of darkness" stealth game. If they did put one or two in I could live with that also.

First post yay http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ... and it wasn't something stupid like asking for a release date.

Boromir323
05-30-2007, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by AmitySnowman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> They made their kills in public to strike fear amongst people. And to let everybody know they could kill anyone, everywhere, on any time.

Although this is true, would it not strike fear into people to think that someone can get into your home and kill you in your bed as you sleep.

Personally I could live without any night time silent missions because like people say the day stealth and social stealth is what makes AC different from every other "under the cover of darkness" stealth game. If they did put one or two in I could live with that also.

First post yay http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ... and it wasn't something stupid like asking for a release date. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bravo! Bravo! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
Haha jk welcome to the forums dude. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Karl_93
05-30-2007, 01:45 PM
lol yupyup good job. one of the few (like me!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) welcome to the forums, im the cool guy... and thats all u have to no http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif jk well most ppl here are friendly too so just ask if u need anything.

dude boromir how u get so many more posts than me!?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif just broke hundred

spazzoo1025
06-29-2007, 06:56 AM
well there trying to be historically accurate and these ppl wanted everyone to know there were even some instances back then when an assassin would kill the target and he wouldn't even try to escape since he didn't care if he died as long as the job was done

if u notice...it's kinda like some of the suicide bombers we have nowadays...yes yes?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif <-- Me if i was a suicide bomber, cuz id never die, id just b on fiyah, like ghost ridah, damn i got some mad rhymes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 07:10 AM
umm...spazzo...ummm... on 2nd thought no comment...(maaan im worried about u...)

anyway, jade did say that there would be assassinations in fortresses, but she also said that they would be very dynamic, so iguess they wont be very silent.

but u never know...u never know...

(im still worried about u...)

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 07:28 AM
To say an assassin would pass up an opportunity to kill a person in their sleep is dumb. Why would a lion leave an antelope alone when he sees it sleeping? Think of assassins as predators. They are nothing more and nothing less.

moqqy
06-29-2007, 07:36 AM
umm no HeresToAtom.. they didn't touch their victims even if they had access to them sometimes - mainly the sleeper agents could have killed their targets many times.. you see it wouldn't serve their purposes very well to kill them in secret always. depends about the case though.

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 07:38 AM
plz dont argue with him moqqy...plz dont...

once u do, its like starting the timer to his head...u can ask japan how bad that was.

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 07:43 AM
Moqqy, you arguments - thus far in my experience with you - have been extremely weak so I am not going to go into this. What you're saying is perposterous. Making more work for yourself... ha! I am aware of the Saladin attempt, do not bring that up as evidence as it was an entirely different circumstance with him as he was the highest political figure.

Other than that, I am sure assassins (or hashashins) at some point or another killed a sleeping target.

moqqy
06-29-2007, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by HeresToAtomBomb:
Moqqy, you arguments - thus far in my experience with you - have been extremely weak so I am not going to go into this. What you're saying is perposterous. Making more work for yourself... ha! I am aware of the Saladin attempt, do not bring that up as evidence as it was an entirely different circumstance with him as he was the highest political figure.

Other than that, I am sure assassins (or hashashins) at some point or another killed a sleeping target.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
we can do this both ways..
THATS NOT TRUE WHAT YOU SAY BUT I AM NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU BECOOOZZ YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!

chikkenstorm
06-29-2007, 07:47 AM
In the 'teaser trailer', you see Altair assassinate someone who has only one guard with him. Maby if you could kill both quick enough (maby a trowing knife on the guard and then quick assassinate the target?), no one knows they're dead, so you won't get followed.

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 07:49 AM
darn you... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

the reaper has left his den in the underworld and is levitating to your soon to be lifeless body. you shall feel the crescent scythe across your throat and shall not knoow what fate befell you. the reaper is close. his eyes stalk the night. and now, he has found his prey...


MOQQY!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

moqqy
06-29-2007, 07:49 AM
ScytheOfGrim, yep you're right if you try to argue with HeresToAtom he will start insulting you because he doesn't know any other way.

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 07:52 AM
cant say i didnt tell you...

the reapers still mad... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

watching an atomic bomb explode once was enough, twice, no way, uh-uh, some1s gonna pay, and the reaper doesnt deal with dollars...

moqqy
06-29-2007, 07:52 AM
yeh yeh sorry i wanted to test if your warning was true.. i can see it was http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 07:55 AM
all men have one life, one chance, you shall- yeah ur right, this is getting boring.

besides u might not even be a man http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif i cant help it, im 15 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 07:56 AM
Good detective work, Ace. You're right, the only thing I can do is insult. The only thing you can do is be void of logic and rationality. Your suggestion is astronomically perposterous and I hope you know that. If you're just trying to get a rise out of me, awesome. I am bored at work so you're giving me something to do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif.

moqqy
06-29-2007, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by HeresToAtomBomb:
Good detective work, Ace. You're right, the only thing I can do is insult. The only thing you can do is be void of logic and rationality. Your suggestion is astronomically perposterous and I hope you know that. If you're just trying to get a rise out of me, awesome. I am bored at work so you're giving me something to do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif.
perposterous

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 07:57 AM
moqqy dont reply.

moqqy
06-29-2007, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
moqqy dont reply.

damn i forgot already http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 07:59 AM
damn i forgot already


quote:
Originally posted by HeresToAtomBomb:
Good detective work, Ace. You're right, the only thing I can do is insult. The only thing you can do is be void of logic and rationality. Your suggestion is astronomically perposterous and I hope you know that. If you're just trying to get a rise out of me, awesome. I am bored at work so you're giving me something to do .

perposterous

Asinine.

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 08:00 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

ironically i slightly doubt that...

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 08:01 AM
ironically i slightly doubt that...

Then you choose to be incorrect. You're 15, you will learn some day.

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 08:02 AM
i wasnt talking 2 u bombshell. u just posted b4 me. i was talking 2 moqqy.

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 08:03 AM
You confuse me. That might be a good thing.

moqqy
06-29-2007, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
i wasnt talking 2 u bombshell. u just posted b4 me. i was talking 2 moqqy.

nope you wasnt you asinine!! and why would you doubt it!

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 08:04 AM
nope you wasnt you asinine!! and why would you doubt it!

Translation please?

moqqy
06-29-2007, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by HeresToAtomBomb:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">nope you wasnt you asinine!! and why would you doubt it!

Translation please? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

www.euroword.com (http://www.euroword.com)
!

but shh now offtopic. this topic has been discussed before anyways. and goodluck being Asinine.Asinine.Asinine.Asinine.Asinine. in teh future

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 08:09 AM
www.euroword.com
!

but shh now offtopic. this topic has been discussed before anyways. and goodluck being Asinine.Asinine.Asinine.Asinine.Asinine. in teh future

Asinine.

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 08:10 AM
cool! smarty is lost!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BTW moqqy i was just teasing, no need 2 take it so seriously. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 08:11 AM
cool! smarty is lost!!

Translation please?

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 08:15 AM
sry, i dont speak nerd. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 08:17 AM
Yes, you've opted to speak d00dspeak. Shattered English is alright I guess...

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 08:18 AM
truly pathetic... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

ok im bored of teasing u, im gonna go find a new victim. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 08:23 AM
Haha, you're the only person who I believe is incapable of offending me. Maybe it is because you're 15.

Were you agreeing with me and confirming that your language has, in fact, been truly pathetic. You love the smileys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif.

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 08:28 AM
i do love the smileys. they all appear 2 be laughing right at ur face. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 08:57 AM
i do love the smileys. they all appear 2 be laughing right at ur face.

Something a 15 year old would right.

ScytheOfGrim
06-29-2007, 09:00 AM
ok mr.english, first, the word is "write" not "right".
second, only an arrogant idiot would insult another without seeing his own faults.

chikkenstorm
06-29-2007, 09:07 AM
Dunno what you guys are doing, but if you're assassinating eachother, it isn't silent at all! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 09:07 AM
Not to be rude but I'm suprised you didn't catch that planned spelling error was sarcasm. I was emulating a thing you would do http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. I know I have faults but none of them revolve around speaking on a message board. So you haven't been exposed to them and thus they have no bearing on this converation, surely you can understand that.

chikkenstorm
06-29-2007, 09:11 AM
I was just saying you are way off-topic...

HeresToAtomBomb
06-29-2007, 09:20 AM
I wasn't talking to you chikken, sorry about the confusion.

tschlosser
07-01-2007, 08:50 AM
Ahhhh, is this another battle between Scythe and AtomBomb?? Ahhh these are always fun to watch. Now, Atom, ur accusing Scythe of being young, now how old might you be? 105! FATHER TIME!

tschlosser
07-01-2007, 08:51 AM
Another quarrel between Scythe and Atombomb i see!! These are always a hoot to watchhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and to back up Scythe, Smileys are amazingly fun!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

ScytheOfGrim
07-01-2007, 08:57 AM
as amazingly fun as smileys are you are an amzingly fun part of the audience.

do you really search every forum to find one of these???

you're warped http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BTW hes 22(or so he says... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif)

i'll have you know that we are criticizing each other "constructively". he will tell you that too. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

NightShade44
07-01-2007, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by kingjmes:
would it be possible to take out ur target with out any1 knowing and finding out so u dont have to try to escape???

From what I understand, the game and the main character are based off of a real historical clan from that time and region.

They were politically and possibly religiously motivated in their work, and they made it a point to make the assassinations of their targets into public displays, for all present to see. They rejected the use of subversive techniques, such as poisons or long range attacks (bows), as they preferred to not give their targets a chance of escape at all. Their weapon of choice was almost always a dagger, from what I understand, which would subsequently require them to be up close and personal for each slaying. They were also very strict about not submitting innocents to harm during their assassinations, and they would never commit suicide, preferring to be killed by their captors, if caught.

But to answer your question once more, these assassins didn't earn their terrifying reputation by assassinating their targets without witnesses. It was a much more powerful statement to murder their targets publicly, and thus served their purposes in a better way.

Boromir323
07-01-2007, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by NightShade44:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kingjmes:
would it be possible to take out ur target with out any1 knowing and finding out so u dont have to try to escape???

From what I understand, the game and the main character are based off of a real historical clan from that time and region.

They were politically and possibly religiously motivated in their work, and they made it a point to make the assassinations of their targets into public displays, for all present to see. They rejected the use of subversive techniques, such as poisons or long range attacks (bows), as they preferred to not give their targets a chance of escape at all. Their weapon of choice was almost always a dagger, from what I understand, which would subsequently require them to be up close and personal for each slaying. They were also very strict about not submitting innocents to harm during their assassinations, and they would never commit suicide, preferring to be killed by their captors, if caught.

But to answer your question once more, these assassins didn't earn their terrifying reputation by assassinating their targets without witnesses. It was a much more powerful statement to murder their targets publicly, and thus served their purposes in a better way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

...Wasn't that like...right out of wikipedia? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

NightShade44
07-01-2007, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Boromir323:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NightShade44:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kingjmes:
would it be possible to take out ur target with out any1 knowing and finding out so u dont have to try to escape???

From what I understand, the game and the main character are based off of a real historical clan from that time and region.

They were politically and possibly religiously motivated in their work, and they made it a point to make the assassinations of their targets into public displays, for all present to see. They rejected the use of subversive techniques, such as poisons or long range attacks (bows), as they preferred to not give their targets a chance of escape at all. Their weapon of choice was almost always a dagger, from what I understand, which would subsequently require them to be up close and personal for each slaying. They were also very strict about not submitting innocents to harm during their assassinations, and they would never commit suicide, preferring to be killed by their captors, if caught.

But to answer your question once more, these assassins didn't earn their terrifying reputation by assassinating their targets without witnesses. It was a much more powerful statement to murder their targets publicly, and thus served their purposes in a better way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

...Wasn't that like...right out of wikipedia? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would imagine wikipedia has similar information, though so do many other sources. They are actually quite legendary in the Islamic world, from what I understand, though admittedly some of their exploits may be more myth than reality, as many histories become exaggerated over time.

ScytheOfGrim
07-02-2007, 05:35 AM
to tell the truth i never learnt/heard about them before this game was announced... maybe im just unaware... but i doubt that!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif