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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:23 PM
WOW

http://gallery.kithobbyist.com/data/217B-24.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:23 PM
WOW

http://gallery.kithobbyist.com/data/217B-24.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:26 PM
Wouldn`t want to see the bodies...

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:37 PM
got the same pic in my library but stating there 4 survived./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

http://www.geocities.com/kimurakai/SIG/262_01011.jpg


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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:37 PM
Wich bodies?

Cpt.LoneRanger
07-04-2003, 11:41 PM
Nice landing. I think this would save much space on a flightdeck...and a mixer, btw

greets
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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:44 PM
Cpt.LoneRanger wrote:
- Nice landing. I think this would save much space on
- a flightdeck...and a mixer, btw


I think that's bad tasted comment about a pic that shows a place where poeple died./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:49 PM
Woa, it couldn't be going very fast at time of impact, I would presume maybe a stall on landing? How could EVERYONE die? the guy in a rear gun...doesnt he sit on a seat, so wouldnt he just be kind slammed into the back?

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:50 PM
Its pretty obvious that this plane didnt go straight in like the pic's text. If a B24 hits the ground coming from a straight in dive well.... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
....this one must have done a bad crash landing ending over the nose smashing it. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:51 PM
^ Broken spine, or neck due to impact maybe.

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:52 PM
I concur with the tasteless remark being inappropriate sigh, as for the picture judging by the wreckage out front i would have said it nosed over and ended up like that,

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:54 PM
As you see the front sector of the plane is smashed.That means some speed.

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:55 PM
^ The front of the plane is smashed due to the weight of the mid-rear section of the airplane.


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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:57 PM
considering the front end is mostly glass and perforous structure, puttign the mass of the plane including (if on takeoff) bombload and fuel load. Then I don't think it would take much speed to collapse the cockpit inward when the full load of an airplane is placed on it.

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Tully__
07-05-2003, 12:02 AM
KIMURA wrote:
- got the same pic in my library but stating there 4
- survived


Caption says "All on board...", maybe the survivors bailed before impact?

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 12:07 AM
I have the pic also saying the crew survived the impact also

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 12:26 AM
Anyone here played Warbirds 2? Well, if you fly the B-24 and look backwards in the cockpit there's this exact photo and a picture of a woman standing with her head between here legs and the phrase, "Bottom's up!", was written under them. Kind of inappropriate if the crew had died.

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Cpt.LoneRanger
07-05-2003, 12:27 AM
KIMURA wrote:
- Cpt.LoneRanger wrote:
-- Nice landing. I think this would save much space on
-- a flightdeck...and a mixer, btw
-
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- I think that's bad tasted comment about a pic that
- shows a place where poeple died.

Sorry, if the tone wasn't well chosen, but I know the picture from a WW2-book and it says all survived.(As allready stated here, too)
According to that, one of the engines failed and it couldn't take off and shot over the runway.


I surely don't make easily jokes about tragedies, to make that perferctly clear.


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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 12:27 AM
WOW! If there was one job you didn't want during WWII it would have been going to Ploesti. Not that any job or action in WWII would have been favorable, but Ploesti was absolute suicide for those bombers.
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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 01:55 AM
There is no way that plane went in with any kind of speed. or from any kind of height.


I think the tipped over on landing theory is most likely correct.

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 03:25 AM
Unless the front landing gear collapsed(a B-24 isn't a tail-dragger),I don't see how it could've tipped over.Even if the front gear did collapse, I would think the plane would've simply skidded (nose to the ground) across the runway with the two wing landing gear supporting it.

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 03:29 AM
A low-altitude,low-speed stall seems more reasonable to me.

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 03:40 AM
Give me a idea of what was defending Ploesti.

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 03:43 AM
There could have been a hole in the ground and the plane "dipped" into it. Or while taking off, it went nose first into the ground (for some unknown reason).

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 04:29 AM
The Warbirds guys new of this pic along time ago. The caption is wrong, like many books of the era. Some guys did survive.

Ploesti and the adjacent area was encircled with thousands of 88's and other AAA. It was among the most well defended sites of the war against air attack. There was also a nearby air base, which I believe housed both LW and Romanians 109s which defended the base. The Romanians defended it till their fall out with the Nazis. The B-24s would do low level raids, hit it hard and leave, and the site would still produce about 80% capacity.

Low level P-38 raids were tried too, with the droop snoot P-38, which had a bombadier in the nose of the lead plane, and other planes would drop on cue.

Ploesti was a meat grinder

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 04:54 AM
Yeap, Ploiesti was a pain in the A** for the alies.
On 10 jun '43 they sended 100 P-38 with bombs, escorted by other 150 P-38, to attack the rafineries.
Great failure, they got ****d so hard....
After that they swiched to sending big bombers formation, with powerfull escort at high altitudes, but the results weren't great anyway.

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 07:23 AM
It didn't go 'straight in' at the caption says. But more likely this was the result of a forced landing thatb went wrong.

To survive intact after going straight in would have broken all known laws of physics!