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Treetop64
02-15-2005, 05:39 PM
Check out this site on what is arguably the coolest, baddest warbird ever to grace the skies:

www.p-38online.com (http://www.p-38online.com)

The quote by S. Sakai is particularly interesting. Anyone who can single-handedly evade fifteen F-6 Hellcats during one mission (that's ninety .50 cal guns, buddy!), and still bring home his Zero without a scratch on it, deserves absolute undivided attention whenever he has anything to say. He has high praises for the P-38s and their pilots...

"Treetop"

Treetop64
02-15-2005, 05:39 PM
Check out this site on what is arguably the coolest, baddest warbird ever to grace the skies:

www.p-38online.com (http://www.p-38online.com)

The quote by S. Sakai is particularly interesting. Anyone who can single-handedly evade fifteen F-6 Hellcats during one mission (that's ninety .50 cal guns, buddy!), and still bring home his Zero without a scratch on it, deserves absolute undivided attention whenever he has anything to say. He has high praises for the P-38s and their pilots...

"Treetop"

3.JG51_BigBear
02-15-2005, 06:57 PM
Nice site, thanks for posting. The P-38 had some terrific advantages in real life, unfortunately many of them don't show through in the sim and what we end up with is kind of a pig. The plane had twin engine reliability, a very comfortable cockpit, easy to aim/heavy hitting weapons, easy to use trycicle gear, and could operate at altitudes much higher than most Japanese planes. Unfortunately in game the twin engines are more of a liability than an advantage and online fights have a habit of turning into low altitude slug fests where the P-38 is definitely not the plane to have and its boom and zoom capability is severly limited by compressibility problems that seem just a tad too pronounced at certain altitudes.

EnGaurde
02-15-2005, 07:49 PM
what ive always wondered is that what would the p38 have been like with two Merlins aka Mustang?

couild it have been American interests that kept the far superior Brit engine out of the p38?

or did the MErlin introduce new problems into the p38 that werent there with the satisfactory Allison?

Zyzbot
02-15-2005, 07:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EnGaurde:
what ive always wondered is that what would the p38 have been like with two Merlins aka Mustang?

couild it have been American interests that kept the far superior Brit engine out of the p38?

or did the MErlin introduce new problems into the p38 that werent there with the satisfactory Allison? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This link will answer your questions:

http://home.att.net/~C.C.Jordan/P-38K.html

"From the very beginning of America‚‚ā¨ôs involvement in World War Two, Lockheed was looking for ways to improve the performance of the P-38. The installation of Rolls Royce XX Merlins was seriously considered. Lockheed went as far as designing the installation package. The advantages of the Merlin engine were numerous. First and foremost was the elimination of the complex turbocharger system. This would also result in a much cleaner engine nacelle. The turbo intercoolers could be removed. That would have allowed for a for more aerodynamic package, closer in shape to that of the original XP-38. Another option was to remove the Prestone radiators and place them under the engine as in the P-40. This location had the additional advantage of reducing the length of the cooling system plumbing. This, in turn, reduced the risk of battle damage to the system. Either option would result in a significant reduction in drag and weight. A further benefit would be gained by the removal of intercooler ducting in the front portion of the outer wings. This volume could be utilized for increased fuel capacity. In fact, that is what was done when the P-38J was designed with revised intercooler cores that eliminated the ducting. This increased internal fuel capacity by 110 gallons.

There were some performance areas that would suffer. While a gain in speed at medium altitudes was expected, the rate of climb would be reduced by as much as 400 feet per minute. Service ceiling would also be reduced as the Packard Merlin XX made considerably less power above 30,000 feet than did the Allison V1710. At the time, no one anticipated the engine and turbocharger problems that developed at high altitude over Europe. Unfortunately, the War Production Board was unwilling to shut down the production line for several months to retool for major design changes required for the engine swap. As a result, the Merlin project was shelved. No P-38 ever flew fitted with Rolls Royce Merlin or Packard engines. The idea of retro-fitting Merlin 61 engines was bantered about 8th Air Force Fighter Command, however there is no evidence that any such conversion ever took place. The prospect of such a modification would have been daunting. This was no simple engine swap, it required large portions of the airframe to be completely redesigned. Stories of Merlin powered Lightnings are, without much doubt, myth."