PDA

View Full Version : AIRCRAFTS IN THE PIPLINE!



popse
11-23-2004, 04:05 PM
Hi

Does anyone know witch aircrafts we can expect in the future and when?
Im special intrested in the following...

1 Fokker D XXI
2 Mosqiuto
3 Flyable Curtis 75
4 Flyable MS406
5 Flyable JU88
6 I 15bis
7 I 16/10
AND anything flyable italian!

chris455
11-23-2004, 10:43 PM
The Hawk 75 and Ju-88 are said to be coming soon, I believe.
The others are, well, doubtful, but you never know-
I thought a flyable Folgore was out there somewhere- http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

hotspace
11-24-2004, 08:58 AM
Try the Forums here. It might give you a better idea, m8:

http://www.netwings.org/library/

Hot Space

No601_prangster
11-24-2004, 12:20 PM
The Mosquito MKVI is finished as flyable and the MKIV as AI. They are both with Oleg but I have no idea when or if they will ever be included in game.

popse
11-24-2004, 03:56 PM
Thx for your replays!

Mine main use of IL2FB-PF is to simulate historical Dogfights with the full mission builder. The conflict who iv has the greatest intrest in is the Winterwar 1939-40. Ill still miss the finnsh main fighter the Fokker D XXI who I also know should be almost finnished, it would certianly open up a spectra of classic dog fights if we only got that!

RGDs Popse

NorrisMcWhirter
11-24-2004, 06:10 PM
Hi,

I'd very much like to see some more 'nationalities' introduced but particularly expansion of Italian and British aircraft.

I suspect they might be pushed down the list, though, on account of certain groups wanting 58 variants of Corsair included so they can pat themselves on the back when they shoot something 'inferior' down.

Cheers,
Norris

AlmightyTallest
11-24-2004, 06:49 PM
http://www.netwings.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID43&conf=DCConfID1

Just read the forum there, it could give you a better idea of what is in progress. Seems like a few new German, British, and even Italian aircraft are in the works, as well as new Japanese ones.

NorrisMcWhirter, different horses for different courses bud http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I want an F4U-4 for my dynamic Okinawa Campaign as I go up against the latest Japanese Ki-100's J2M3's Ki-84 variants in large numbers. May not be historically accurate to be fighting elite AI Ki-84's, Ki-100's, George's, J2M3's and the like, but it sure will be fun in the F4U-4 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Aaron_GT
11-25-2004, 03:20 AM
"The Mosquito MKVI is finished as flyable and the MKIV as AI. "

If you ever feel like adding an NF.II to the list give me a shout!

Moka.21
11-25-2004, 04:20 AM
Winter War cannot be done without a flyable Fokker D.XXI, since it was there from the very
beginning. M.S 406 will be in the BoB, if not
earlier. Russians really need I-15bis and I-16
types 6+10. That would be good for the Khalkin Gol as well.

NorrisMcWhirter
11-25-2004, 09:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AlmightyTallest:
http://www.netwings.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID43&conf=DCConfID1

Just read the forum there, it could give you a better idea of what is in progress. Seems like a few new German, British, and even Italian aircraft are in the works, as well as new Japanese ones.

NorrisMcWhirter, different horses for different courses bud http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I want an F4U-4 for my dynamic Okinawa Campaign as I go up against the latest Japanese Ki-100's J2M3's Ki-84 variants in large numbers. May not be historically accurate to be fighting elite AI Ki-84's, Ki-100's, George's, J2M3's and the like, but it sure will be fun in the F4U-4 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi,

It's a problem; more planes or more accurate models for the ones we have (we know they can't all be correct otherwise they wouldn't keep changing).

Having said that, I'd just like to see more nations represented rather an n variations of the same aircraft and I think every opportunity should be taken to include multi-engined aircraft as these are the most fun to fly...offline or on.....if for no other reason than they add variety.

Cheers,
Norris

No601_prangster
11-25-2004, 10:06 AM
Aaron_GT Oleg has stated there is no way to include night fighter radar in FB/PF but it might be included in BOB. I'm planning on producing a new high detailed version of the Mossie for BOB and I'll certainly do a night fighter version. I'll need some more info on the radars used so any research you can do would be great. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

AlmightyTallest
11-25-2004, 11:35 AM
Hi Norris, you said it's a problem between more planes or more accurate models for the ones we have.

But the truth of the matter is that there are more planes comming, and each with their own distinct flight models. I think Oleg is doing a good job of actually adding more aircraft while also tweaking and adjusting the flight models of all of them with each succesive patch so I don't really see the problem with adding another plane that is a subvariant of one already modelled.

I do agree that the twin engine planes are a hoot to fly, I would like to see a flyable B-25H for low level anti-shipping strikes in the future myself, especially since Oleg made it possible to strafe gun emplacements on enemy ships.

But that's another subvariant of an already flyable plane as well.

Aaron_GT
11-25-2004, 11:38 AM
Well if it helps for BoB and you are interested I can ask again about taking some pics of the NF.II round these parts.

NorrisMcWhirter
11-25-2004, 12:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AlmightyTallest:
Hi Norris, you said it's a problem between more planes or more accurate models for the ones we have.

But the truth of the matter is that there are more planes comming, and each with their own distinct flight models. I think Oleg is doing a good job of actually adding more aircraft while also tweaking and adjusting the flight models of all of them with each succesive patch so I don't really see the problem with adding another plane that is a subvariant of one already modelled.

I do agree that the twin engine planes are a hoot to fly, I would like to see a flyable B-25H for low level anti-shipping strikes in the future myself, especially since Oleg made it possible to strafe gun emplacements on enemy ships.

But that's another subvariant of an already flyable plane as well. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, it's the inconvenient problem of quality or quantity or compromise; the latter causes just as many problems because if FMs are judged to be off by, say, 20%, they may as well be 100% off the mark.

For the F4U argument, I certainly find it hard to oppose it's addition on the grounds that it's relatively easy (cost in time and money) for Oleg to add a sub-variant rather than knock up an entirely new aircraft's 3D model + associated DM/FM - we see this throughout the game already albeit applied inconsistently (for example, different variants of Bf110 but only one of them flyable).

My opposition would come from such variant development stopping or postponing the addition of completely new aircraft - a problem exacerbated by the proximity of BoB (i.e. there isn't much time left for add ons to the FB series so it's increasingly necessary to sort out the wheat from the chaff right NOW).

While I'm sure it would be nice to have another Corsair, at the end of the day it's just another Corsair; compare this to having multi-role Mosquitos or several new Italian fighters, the latter which could open up new dimensions in terms of theatres and operations in FB/PF now. I dare say that you could use the same argument for the F4U but only to a lesser extent on account of it already being in the game (and, I have to say that I have a sneaking suspicion that quite a lot of the calls to have it are simply to have something better than the despised Ki-84 (and I only say that because of the names I see making the most noise about it and the ones most frequently knocking the '84)).

It's up to Oleg at the end of the day as to how much extra cash or pleasure it will bring to add in any of these aircraft; clearly, there is a business reason for the F4U in that the US market is large but a Corsair is already in so then it comes down to other reasons. Conversely, there is also a large number of customers who play this who appreciate it's diversity and above average lack of pandering in any particular direction.

Cheers,
Norris

necrobaron
11-25-2004, 02:21 PM
The Fokker XXI and I-152 were being worked on, but I don't know the current progress or even if there has been any progress. I've not heard of any work on a flyable Morane or I-16/10.

And like the others have said, the Mossie and Ju-88 are finished and the Hawk 75/P-36 is being worked on too, last I heard. A good number of Regia fighters(Re.2000,G.55,and a number of others) have been finished too. Hopefully, we'll see them soon.

VW-IceFire
11-25-2004, 03:30 PM
Discussion on the Netwings forum about the F4U-4 got some interesting results.

1) The plane has numerous external changes
2) The plane got a totally redesigned cockpit

So it means that the effort to change it would be better spent building most of it from the ground up. So its not as much of a variant as I had assumed...this is according to the experienced modelers/historians over there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Be nice to see however http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

popse
11-26-2004, 02:15 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

At IL2skins forum ill find this about Fokker D XXI http://forums.il2skins.com/viewtopic.php?t=4909
Im just wondering when we will see it as in PF/FB?